Granted, only people like you are intelligent enough to consider this even, or have a open mind or not make a joke a child could think of. You might be a star child. I don't know anything about star children, or what it's like to be one, you might be one.
You see worth in our existence, I can barely see it anymore. I'm almost lost.
Granted, NasaJim, is rightfully insane, he's seen enough...
No 'thing' has worth outside of its effect. All things in the universe are given worth by nature of the fact that there are sentient beings to observe them. If you believe in an external creator, then the point of creating is to give purpose to nonsentient things. Beauty is only existent when observed.
That's true, very true, thank you Daishin. It's why I am starting to try to step back, because I've tried to step too far forwards and see our species as a species that strives to have purpose. No matter how much we think we know, any of us, or truly do know, we have a choice and ability to choose our psychic energies.
I agree with you. I do. I think in the end we ultimately choose what wins over this species, if it doesn't just vanish because of natural disasters. It's up to us, psychic hybrids or not. XD
So you did it impossible to discern between religion used as a tool versus the core spiritual belief? What about when the belief contradicts the way the religion was used?
There's also the inherent problem that you will only believe in a God who agrees with you. In other words you want God made in your own image, because you've already presupposes your perception is correct.
It's people who choose to interpret it to their own sick ends.The bible doesn't hate on homosexuals, a few versions do. However people refuse to see the fact that the original bible, doesn't hate on homosexuals. None of the original words used, meant literal homosexual.Paul even made up a word for male temple prostitution. It's self harm.But remember Jesus even forgave the prostitute when she asked for it.
These people are simply using a twisted message for a nonexistent topic with no grounds.
Let it stand that with the Religion bashing video I was about to make ,that I was on trial of MYSELF, that I have tried myself, had a personal hearing and convicted myself.
DAISHIN , I apologize. But, still DAISHIN, I fear people who abuse your religion.
I was on something fierce, until this came to me. And I'm sorry, I'm obsessive compulsive with learning the truth about things. And I can not say the word of God isn't pure, but I can say the words some of these people speak are not pure, are satanic.
I just don't understand how people can think these energies , auric and psychic are good for them.
DAISHIN was right, given this, the word of God was not on trial. It was ignorant people.
Sexual energy is high in Spring, XD....this I do believe. It's a little known fact what happens in Spring.
The threat of ignorance is in all of us. The minute we give ourselves over to generalizing and stereotyping, the minute we assume for others, is the minute we're going down a very negative path. The world is a very diverse play with very diverse people.
The particular church you pointed to in that video, Westboro, has less than a dozen members and is officially rejected by the Southern Baptist Conference. Now, I know that these dozen aren't the only number of people in the Christian faith that God hates gays, but there are many who don't. One of my best friends is a gay monk.
The female had to come second as time, acceleration of sub atomic particles, female is a higher vibrational being. The female had to come second. The woman was born of the rear of man!
In original rabbinical thought, it was assumed that man and women were a single, two headed, four armed, four legged entity. They were split apart to form the original pair of man and woman. In Gnostic and Khabbalic thought, the first woman was Lilith, cast out for being too sexually dominant and made, essentially, into the world's first vampire.
In original rabbinical thought, it was assumed that man and women were a single, two headed, four armed, four legged entity. They were split apart to form the original pair of man and woman. In Gnostic and Khabbalic thought, the first woman was Lilith, cast out for being too sexually dominant and made, essentially, into the world's first vampire.
Interesting . Thanks for sharing. I'm so confused, I know how empty our words are but I still use so many.
Don't be too confused, the concept of Lilith is a minority belief. Although it is also superstition as many Jewish people used to play prayers at the doorway of children's rooms in order to guard against her snatching the kids.
You believe beliefs are not subjective. I believe that absent an objective rule maker, they are. Which of us is correct?
The rule marker is what I'm trying to explain you can see the consequences of our actions, our beliefs, you and I are observations, actions. We are in the mind, the universe is psychic energies we are connected to nature.
That is your marker, spreading around violence, lust, sex by subjecting us to it , only feeds and attracts, pulls that energy into us and into our thoughts, even if on a subconscious level it is not good, healthy for us.
It is objective that if we subject ourselves to primitive energies that they will spread in our species. It's common sense. If you can't believe in that then you don't have any more belief.
The rule marker is what I'm trying to explain you can see the consequences of our actions, our beliefs, you and I are observations, actions. We are in the mind, the universe is psychic energies we are connected to nature.
That is your marker, spreading around violence, lust, sex by subjecting us to it , only feeds and attracts, pulls that energy into us and into our thoughts, even if on a subconscious level it is not good, healthy for us.
How can you argue that vain , power hungry politicians ruling over us is good for us? They can't promise us anything, they live in a imaginary world of power, while we believe there is money, there is no money. We're trillions in dept world wide.
What makes vanity, violence, lust, or being power hungry a 'bad' thing? The fact that it hurts others? What does that matter to me if I'm the person benefiting? There's certainly nothing 'bad' about me doing well. Why should I feel bad about those around me? Evolution says some will rise to the top and others will fall behind.
Or bluntly, I have no inherent reason to feel bad for the suffering of others.
Because it's bad for society it causes imbalance, illlusions of people starving to death because people believe in your lies. Evolution doesn't say anything , and this entire species is on a fcked planet, that's what the planet says.
Those thoughts are low vibrational thoughts, where animals fight to stay alive, there is no time/ evolution in those thoughts, and animals like that go extinct or evolve....and we are not evolving.
Our leaders are retarded, you consider that evolution? They are greedy, stupid politicians making empty promises. Hoorah for evolution. FFS
It's people like that, not that you are, that sell us out to marketing just because it makes us happier to be swallowed up in material possessions, wealth.
This species was a experiment and that doesn't float my boat. Higher beings have higher vibrational status than that. Some are even hives, collectives. We can be different, be happy, but this bs about controlling our beliefs I don't want to settle for.
What makes vanity, violence, lust, or being power hungry a 'bad' thing? The fact that it hurts others? What does that matter to me if I'm the person benefiting? There's certainly nothing 'bad' about me doing well. Why should I feel bad about those around me? Evolution says some will rise to the top and others will fall behind.
Or bluntly, I have no inherent reason to feel bad for the suffering of others.
This actually can be explained by evolution. Humans, being the social creatures that we are, thrive as groups and therefore we have a vested interest in keeping the members of our groups alive in order to survive. In a long term perspective, individuals who were able to remain within a group through acts of altruism survived while those who were unable to work in said groups fell by the wayside. I would suppose that feeling bad for the suffering of others is a mixture of evolutionary altruism and learned behavior (from watching our parents/siblings/etc...).
Surviving has nothing to do with being too powerful and corrupt. End of that...
And if you want to use our low vibrations as a argument, our instincts why not go back to orgies in the street and knocking up 8 years olds...wait...
There is a world of difference between predatory animals then a species that has evolved and SUBJECTS one another to un-necessary mistreatment. Anyone making a argument for this has their head up their ass and doesn't care about our species, others...
Exactly, it doesn't happen that often, point made...Ancient Greece it would. It's a stupid argument to compare a advanced species that is supposed to be within higher vibrational status to the behaviors of like apes, monkeys.
Why not just run around naked? I'd be ok with that really...
And if you want to use our low vibrations as a argument, our instincts why not go back to orgies in the street and knocking up 8 years olds...wait...
I'm pretty sure that, evolutionarily speaking, this would doesn't hold water. Individuals who are only attracted to immature individuals of the same species don't tend to reproduce very much. We can see this in how most animals do not try to have sex with their young before sexual maturity.
I'm pretty sure that, evolutionarily speaking, this would doesn't hold water. Individuals who are only attracted to immature individuals of the same species don't tend to reproduce very much. We can see this in how most animals do not try to have sex with their young before sexual maturity.
Using evolution as a excuse for ignorance is stupid. If anything we should EVOLVE. Especially with bigger brains..
Sorry, go on and make more arguments, I can't dispute some one taking things by the book and being analytical how it works out in some text book.
Real world examples of primitive human beings show rape, sex before maturity and all other sorts of gems. You want to be a advanced culture, yet you're selectively using evolution as your argument, while focusing on our natural instincts .
Why don't I kill my boss because I want to advance at work... Or become a hunter, gatherer.
It's silly. And ignorance is not just explained away by some stupid text book that has been on the shelf since before you were born...
Sorry...
Any one with a ounce of common sense wouldn't blindly follow a greedy, self centered world that doesn't give a shit about the actual majority of the people living within in it. I have no time for text book babble that makes you feel educated, intelligent, and sophisticated.
I might as well get a text reader and type in wikipedia and hear it speak to me...
I've set my own beliefs, morals, and they aren't that far off from common sense and I have every one in mind when I see a world where the few abuse the many ...
I don't care how you want your strings pulled or how you try to pull on mine. I'm not going to raise my arms for you or do a little dance here. So if you want to go on about this you can do it without me.
I wasn't using evolution to defend ignorance. I'm simply saying that certain actions, even killing your boss, wouldn't be logical under an evolutionary argument. Altruism is built into humans due to the social structure inherent in our species. The laws we have are a byproduct of our natural tendencies to stick together in groups and to not injure those within our groups, laws just solidify this.
The violence that you were referring to is not a product of evolution, it's a product of advanced society in which social norms have changed. Your argument is that all human beings are by nature violent, brutal, and rapists. My argument is that in order to arrive in some sort of social structure that didn't immediately dissolve, there has to be some sort of background that ISN'T based in violence. An innate tendency towards order where the violent, aggressive members are cast out of the pack to eke out a living alone, where the survival of individuals depends on the survival of the group.
In short, if we were all violent by evolution, society should logically not exist at all.
This is silly argument and I'm not even sure what you want to argue about other than you're competitive and like to have the last word. ok, we were primitive we evolved, and if we don't continue to evolve then we won't continue to evolve. Being greedy, selfish, and self centered doesn't help anything and are not good behaviors for society and society, nor are we treating our planet correctly.
Humans weren't born in a intelligent thriving society they were born out of wild animals and evolved....and any one with any sense shouldn't be making arguments for a corrupt society that is not only bad for that society itself but also the planet it lives on...
No, I think we're a lot better than that because we evolved, your argument, your real argument is that me and Daishi are friends and I am a scientist and want to argue my science with you to feel good about myself.
Any one who sees evolution so cleary, should have the sense to see what our actions do to this planet and how those who lead us are corrupt and not doing us any real good as a species. In a perfect world laws and evolution would be enough, but the way things are now, people need to use their brains a little get their heads out of books and actually make a change or realize one is needed.
Even your president promises us false hope, change, and it's not just because 2 people in the world want change. Its because we fcked up and need to evolve end of story. I'm done. Lots of people want, need a change...if you want to be inconsiderate, ignore or needs that's your objective...
Your text books don't tell the whole story most the population is educated that doesn't evolve us, people who abuse technologies don't evolve, technologies might, but other than medical science and little gadgets to make life easier we don't actually evolve.
If anything we are a SLLLLLLOW progression and technology is way over our heads.
How do your laws bring change, or change the world, how do your text books?
We are here, now and people with a ounce of self awareness are looking around and saying, gee, we really screwed up and maybe, just maybe, get this... WE NEED NEW LAWS or a new understanding of the world we FUCKED UP!
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No 'thing' has worth outside of its effect. All things in the universe are given worth by nature of the fact that there are sentient beings to observe them. If you believe in an external creator, then the point of creating is to give purpose to nonsentient things. Beauty is only existent when observed.
I agree with you. I do. I think in the end we ultimately choose what wins over this species, if it doesn't just vanish because of natural disasters. It's up to us, psychic hybrids or not. XD
Thanks for sharing again.
Though the truth is there's no way for you to declare what is divine since you are not divine yourself and have no inherent conception of what it is.
It's like a dog trying to describe to man, what the nature of man is.
There's also the inherent problem that you will only believe in a God who agrees with you. In other words you want God made in your own image, because you've already presupposes your perception is correct.
Let it stand that with the Religion bashing video I was about to make ,that I was on trial of MYSELF, that I have tried myself, had a personal hearing and convicted myself.
DAISHIN , I apologize. But, still DAISHIN, I fear people who abuse your religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYb6S1tAxSs&lc=Q1aKWYeUFQp9p9WDuk6sopXbyT3-MdiSilbEaFjSuVA&feature=inbox
I was on something fierce, until this came to me. And I'm sorry, I'm obsessive compulsive with learning the truth about things. And I can not say the word of God isn't pure, but I can say the words some of these people speak are not pure, are satanic.
I just don't understand how people can think these energies , auric and psychic are good for them.
DAISHIN was right, given this, the word of God was not on trial. It was ignorant people.
Sexual energy is high in Spring, XD....this I do believe. It's a little known fact what happens in Spring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOW_MIvLm0
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmlhI4wYRZ8XrCpMzvj17jzsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20111004084136AAoP2lk
The particular church you pointed to in that video, Westboro, has less than a dozen members and is officially rejected by the Southern Baptist Conference. Now, I know that these dozen aren't the only number of people in the Christian faith that God hates gays, but there are many who don't. One of my best friends is a gay monk.
Mother Nature, Father time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJw0mGST8j8&feature=channel_video_title
What a coincidence!
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoQPwkWI2ZCqh0iaR7D8.Pnsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20111005141331AA1tnHy
I thought you were made of Munny!
A gentleman lets the lady come first.
Indubitably.
XD...sounds nasty, but hey..
This is why I believe it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xex6Ppg_eSg
You might be thinking of the RIB of man.
XD HAHAHA the rib of man, I better add that in comments.
Interesting . Thanks for sharing. I'm so confused, I know how empty our words are but I still use so many.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy5sXVv5ryA&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn4Q_JhQkDY&feature=channel_video_title
Hip-hip, horray!
You believe beliefs are not subjective. I believe that absent an objective rule maker, they are. Which of us is correct?
Thank you Davies and daishi you're good friends.
The rule marker is what I'm trying to explain you can see the consequences of our actions, our beliefs, you and I are observations, actions. We are in the mind, the universe is psychic energies we are connected to nature.
That is your marker, spreading around violence, lust, sex by subjecting us to it , only feeds and attracts, pulls that energy into us and into our thoughts, even if on a subconscious level it is not good, healthy for us.
It is objective that if we subject ourselves to primitive energies that they will spread in our species. It's common sense. If you can't believe in that then you don't have any more belief.
What makes vanity, violence, lust, or being power hungry a 'bad' thing? The fact that it hurts others? What does that matter to me if I'm the person benefiting? There's certainly nothing 'bad' about me doing well. Why should I feel bad about those around me? Evolution says some will rise to the top and others will fall behind.
Or bluntly, I have no inherent reason to feel bad for the suffering of others.
Those thoughts are low vibrational thoughts, where animals fight to stay alive, there is no time/ evolution in those thoughts, and animals like that go extinct or evolve....and we are not evolving.
Our leaders are retarded, you consider that evolution? They are greedy, stupid politicians making empty promises. Hoorah for evolution. FFS
It's people like that, not that you are, that sell us out to marketing just because it makes us happier to be swallowed up in material possessions, wealth.
This species was a experiment and that doesn't float my boat. Higher beings have higher vibrational status than that. Some are even hives, collectives. We can be different, be happy, but this bs about controlling our beliefs I don't want to settle for.
This actually can be explained by evolution. Humans, being the social creatures that we are, thrive as groups and therefore we have a vested interest in keeping the members of our groups alive in order to survive. In a long term perspective, individuals who were able to remain within a group through acts of altruism survived while those who were unable to work in said groups fell by the wayside. I would suppose that feeling bad for the suffering of others is a mixture of evolutionary altruism and learned behavior (from watching our parents/siblings/etc...).
And if you want to use our low vibrations as a argument, our instincts why not go back to orgies in the street and knocking up 8 years olds...wait...
There is a world of difference between predatory animals then a species that has evolved and SUBJECTS one another to un-necessary mistreatment. Anyone making a argument for this has their head up their ass and doesn't care about our species, others...
What street do you live on!?
Exactly, it doesn't happen that often, point made...Ancient Greece it would. It's a stupid argument to compare a advanced species that is supposed to be within higher vibrational status to the behaviors of like apes, monkeys.
Why not just run around naked? I'd be ok with that really...
I'm pretty sure that, evolutionarily speaking, this would doesn't hold water. Individuals who are only attracted to immature individuals of the same species don't tend to reproduce very much. We can see this in how most animals do not try to have sex with their young before sexual maturity.
Using evolution as a excuse for ignorance is stupid. If anything we should EVOLVE. Especially with bigger brains..
Sorry, go on and make more arguments, I can't dispute some one taking things by the book and being analytical how it works out in some text book.
Real world examples of primitive human beings show rape, sex before maturity and all other sorts of gems. You want to be a advanced culture, yet you're selectively using evolution as your argument, while focusing on our natural instincts .
Why don't I kill my boss because I want to advance at work... Or become a hunter, gatherer.
It's silly. And ignorance is not just explained away by some stupid text book that has been on the shelf since before you were born...
Sorry...
Any one with a ounce of common sense wouldn't blindly follow a greedy, self centered world that doesn't give a shit about the actual majority of the people living within in it. I have no time for text book babble that makes you feel educated, intelligent, and sophisticated.
I might as well get a text reader and type in wikipedia and hear it speak to me...
I've set my own beliefs, morals, and they aren't that far off from common sense and I have every one in mind when I see a world where the few abuse the many ...
I don't care how you want your strings pulled or how you try to pull on mine. I'm not going to raise my arms for you or do a little dance here. So if you want to go on about this you can do it without me.
I don't see you getting a promotion that way.
Again you're proving my point...;)
The violence that you were referring to is not a product of evolution, it's a product of advanced society in which social norms have changed. Your argument is that all human beings are by nature violent, brutal, and rapists. My argument is that in order to arrive in some sort of social structure that didn't immediately dissolve, there has to be some sort of background that ISN'T based in violence. An innate tendency towards order where the violent, aggressive members are cast out of the pack to eke out a living alone, where the survival of individuals depends on the survival of the group.
In short, if we were all violent by evolution, society should logically not exist at all.
Humans weren't born in a intelligent thriving society they were born out of wild animals and evolved....and any one with any sense shouldn't be making arguments for a corrupt society that is not only bad for that society itself but also the planet it lives on...
No, I think we're a lot better than that because we evolved, your argument, your real argument is that me and Daishi are friends and I am a scientist and want to argue my science with you to feel good about myself.
Any one who sees evolution so cleary, should have the sense to see what our actions do to this planet and how those who lead us are corrupt and not doing us any real good as a species. In a perfect world laws and evolution would be enough, but the way things are now, people need to use their brains a little get their heads out of books and actually make a change or realize one is needed.
Even your president promises us false hope, change, and it's not just because 2 people in the world want change. Its because we fcked up and need to evolve end of story. I'm done. Lots of people want, need a change...if you want to be inconsiderate, ignore or needs that's your objective...
Your text books don't tell the whole story most the population is educated that doesn't evolve us, people who abuse technologies don't evolve, technologies might, but other than medical science and little gadgets to make life easier we don't actually evolve.
If anything we are a SLLLLLLOW progression and technology is way over our heads.
How do your laws bring change, or change the world, how do your text books?
We are here, now and people with a ounce of self awareness are looking around and saying, gee, we really screwed up and maybe, just maybe, get this... WE NEED NEW LAWS or a new understanding of the world we FUCKED UP!