Anyway, I doubt who pays for dinner is what's keeping women down really at the end of the day
In a sense, it is. The main underlyer behind this is the concept that women can't fend for themselves. I understand that this may not be your intentions. This is an old concept that sorta dug itself deep into society and we need to get rid of it. I get generosity and all that, but don't just do it because they're a lady date. I expect women to do so as well.
Being in a situation where you're a lady dating ladies, the whole idea that an individual of a certain gender is automatically assigned paying duty for another person of a different gender is just foreign and strange to me.
I know some women who are so stuck on tradition they wouldn't go out with a guy unless he doted on them how every guy doted on a woman in the 1800s. It's honestly ridiculous to me.
I'll tell you what was taught to me by my guy friends.
A. Ugly chicks, needy, jealous.
B. Pretty chicks, normal sane chicks, most date-able material, slightly jealous at times. Best type of chick to date.
C. Hot chicks, crazy chicks, just crazy chicks...
Do you live in Jersey shore? Or there is another hellhole in this universe where guy friends make completely idiotic generalizations and definitions, disregarding and disrespecting humanity's improvement on socializing and philosophy of human ethics and communication?
I know some women who are so stuck on tradition they wouldn't go out with a guy unless he doted on them how every guy doted on a woman in the 1800s. It's honestly ridiculous to me.
I wonder how many of them realized that all that dating stuff in the victorian era was all about class and status?
Yeah, it's silly. It's stupid, that's why so many people feel like they are defective or something and have to use these web sites. A large group of people don't even know how to go about dating....
It's silly, it's a joke, so are many of our lives...it's stupid.
I'm still trying to deduce whether doodo is frustrated about dating a girl just for dating, or having someone to love.
Because dating a girl for just because is a corny bullshit of a human act, where neither of the two people actually gives a crap about the other one although ironically it's still considered "being a couple".
I'm still trying to deduce whether doodo is frustrated about dating a girl just for dating, or having someone to love.
Because dating a girl for just because is a corny bullshit of a human act, where neither of the two people actually gives a crap about the other one although ironically it's still considered "being a couple".
What the dedouche?
You do know that it's normal for many people to date, spend time with others, have fun, hang out, go places, have conversations, right? Even if it doesn't turn out to be more, but some times it does...right?
I think it's even more ridiculous to suggest that you immediately fall in love and to skip knowing the person in actual dates...
Circular argument, my friend. The reason why men make more than women is because they are the expected head of the household while women are more typically viewed as making extra income. If you keep spreading traditions like this, things will never change.
It's circular... how? I'm just saying that that's the way things are done.
I find it a bit bizarre that some guys complain about "wasting" money on their girlfriends. Then they insist on being the sole payer of excursions.
When did I ever call it 'wasting?' I view it as courtesy. Besides, I wouldn't be paying if I didn't want to enjoy the company of kind, intelligent, attractive and - dare I say - beautiful women who care enough about being in my company to want to have dinner with me. Is that so wrong?
... I don't even know where to begin with this thread.
I would love for you to give a woman's perspective on Doodo's rantings, Puzzelbox. Maybe he'll take you more serious... Or he'll get really shy that a REAL GIRL is commenting on his posts.
Just wanted to come in here and post a success story about online dating. :cool:
Joined up with cupid.com after a long stint of not being in a relationship. Never really been the sociable type and always focused on school/work. Yea, I'm one of *those* guys.
To be honest, I really wasn't expecting much from it and that's what I got at first. Initiated a conversation with a few girls who seemed interesting. We chatted online and over the phone... they said I was a nice guy, but didn't want to go out with me. That was fine. Basically a reflection of my real world attempts at asking a girl out.
Had only paid for a 90 day membership and it was winding down. I was ready to chalk it up as a loss when I received a wink from a user a couple of town over.
I started up a chat with her and things just flowed. Our conversation wasn't difficult and it didn't feel awkward or forced. We both shared the same sense of humor and we constantly were laughing at each other's jokes. We had a few things in common, but not everything... which made it real easy to bring up new topics of discussion. After chatting online and over the phone for 3 months, we decided to meet in person.
Since we had talked so much already, our first date was very relaxing and easy. I met her family, we went out to eat, went to a movie, and I took her home. We kissed. Sparks were flying.
That all happened back in 2005. In 2007, we got married and have been in bliss since. She is fantastic.
tl;dr: Don't give up online dating too quickly. It can work.
Just wanted to come in here and post a success story about online dating. :cool:
Joined up with cupid.com after a long stint of not being in a relationship. Never really been the sociable type and always focused on school/work. Yea, I'm one of *those* guys.
To be honest, I really wasn't expecting much from it and that's what I got at first. Initiated a conversation with a few girls who seemed interesting. We chatted online and over the phone... they said I was a nice guy, but didn't want to go out with me. That was fine. Basically a reflection of my real world attempts at asking a girl out.
Had only paid for a 90 day membership and it was winding down. I was ready to chalk it up as a loss when I received a wink from a user a couple of town over.
I started up a chat with her and things just flowed. Our conversation wasn't difficult and it didn't feel awkward or forced. We both shared the same sense of humor and we constantly were laughing at each other's jokes. We had a few things in common, but not everything... which made it real easy to bring up new topics of discussion. After chatting online and over the phone for 3 months, we decided to meet in person.
Since we had talked so much already, our first date was very relaxing and easy. I met her family, we went out to eat, went to a movie, and I took her home. We kissed. Sparks were flying.
That all happened back in 2005. In 2007, we got married and have been in bliss since. She is fantastic.
tl;dr: Don't give up online dating too quickly. It can work.
Wow, good for you LordFlux. It's a real succes story!
I guess online dating worked for you, though I think it wouldn't work for everybody. The chances of something like this are really small.
What I do think is that people put to much pressure on the dating thing in general. People like Doodo and Lonnie are just shouting that they don't see the need for dating because they feel insecure about about themselves and their chances in the dating world.
The fact is that if you just let go of the whole "I need to get a girlfriend" thing, but keep all the oppertunities open, that one day it will just happen.
Ranting about how strange women are won't make you seem cool or sophisticated. It just confirms your insecurity and the inability to look at your own weaker sides and work on them.
You might be really bad at dating and making contact, but don't give me that bullshit about women. It's usually your own fault, and the sooner you realise this, the sooner you'll make progress.
I would love for you to give a woman's perspective on Doodo's rantings, Puzzelbox. Maybe he'll take you more serious... Or he'll get really shy that a REAL GIRL is commenting on his posts.
A lot of people bring up the date paying thing, and here's the answer. If a woman offers to pay, let her pay. It's that simple, if you refuse to let her pay anything she will feel dependent. Most of the time when a woman offers to pay, it's to show they can, and denying that would damage her pride just to save your own. If she doesn't offer, then pay, that's how it works.
It can kiss my ass too. In fact, I've decided I want to be a lone, and just avoid women so that they don't depress me any more. And when I retire I can retire any place in the world I feel like, no seeds planted anywhere, no roots anchoring me down.
I would've thought that whoevers idea it was to go on the date should pay for it. If it was the man who asked the woman then the man should pay, and if it was the woman who asked the man then the woman should pay.
It can kiss my ass too. In fact, I've decided I want to be a lone, and just avoid women so that they don't depress me any more. And when I retire I can retire any place in the world I feel like, no seeds planted anywhere, no roots anchoring me down.
Wait, why would you want to cut yourself off from half the world's population? Not wanting to seek a relationship is one thing, but avoiding women? That's kind of sad.
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What if I put you and a dress and take you out dancing?
I'd rather you just took the dress out and leave me out of it.
That's the first time I've ever been rejected by a man before...:eek:
I wouldn't care. People should pay for themselves, or at least try to switch off who should pay for who.
In a sense, it is. The main underlyer behind this is the concept that women can't fend for themselves. I understand that this may not be your intentions. This is an old concept that sorta dug itself deep into society and we need to get rid of it. I get generosity and all that, but don't just do it because they're a lady date. I expect women to do so as well.
Being in a situation where you're a lady dating ladies, the whole idea that an individual of a certain gender is automatically assigned paying duty for another person of a different gender is just foreign and strange to me.
You're trying too hard.
What grade are you and your friends in?
High quality...
Apparently, I'm not trying hard enough...
Do you live in Jersey shore? Or there is another hellhole in this universe where guy friends make completely idiotic generalizations and definitions, disregarding and disrespecting humanity's improvement on socializing and philosophy of human ethics and communication?
He's in the best preschool in the entire ghetto.
I wonder how many of them realized that all that dating stuff in the victorian era was all about class and status?
They want the benefits without the intentions.
Is that Harley-vision?
This is a picture taken of me just today ^...
There's too much unrealistic expectations in the dating world. It's silly, no?
It's silly, it's a joke, so are many of our lives...it's stupid.
Because dating a girl for just because is a corny bullshit of a human act, where neither of the two people actually gives a crap about the other one although ironically it's still considered "being a couple".
What the dedouche?
You do know that it's normal for many people to date, spend time with others, have fun, hang out, go places, have conversations, right? Even if it doesn't turn out to be more, but some times it does...right?
I think it's even more ridiculous to suggest that you immediately fall in love and to skip knowing the person in actual dates...
I would love for you to give a woman's perspective on Doodo's rantings, Puzzelbox. Maybe he'll take you more serious... Or he'll get really shy that a REAL GIRL is commenting on his posts.
Joined up with cupid.com after a long stint of not being in a relationship. Never really been the sociable type and always focused on school/work. Yea, I'm one of *those* guys.
To be honest, I really wasn't expecting much from it and that's what I got at first. Initiated a conversation with a few girls who seemed interesting. We chatted online and over the phone... they said I was a nice guy, but didn't want to go out with me. That was fine. Basically a reflection of my real world attempts at asking a girl out.
Had only paid for a 90 day membership and it was winding down. I was ready to chalk it up as a loss when I received a wink from a user a couple of town over.
I started up a chat with her and things just flowed. Our conversation wasn't difficult and it didn't feel awkward or forced. We both shared the same sense of humor and we constantly were laughing at each other's jokes. We had a few things in common, but not everything... which made it real easy to bring up new topics of discussion. After chatting online and over the phone for 3 months, we decided to meet in person.
Since we had talked so much already, our first date was very relaxing and easy. I met her family, we went out to eat, went to a movie, and I took her home. We kissed. Sparks were flying.
That all happened back in 2005. In 2007, we got married and have been in bliss since. She is fantastic.
tl;dr: Don't give up online dating too quickly. It can work.
Wow, good for you LordFlux. It's a real succes story!
I guess online dating worked for you, though I think it wouldn't work for everybody. The chances of something like this are really small.
What I do think is that people put to much pressure on the dating thing in general. People like Doodo and Lonnie are just shouting that they don't see the need for dating because they feel insecure about about themselves and their chances in the dating world.
The fact is that if you just let go of the whole "I need to get a girlfriend" thing, but keep all the oppertunities open, that one day it will just happen.
Ranting about how strange women are won't make you seem cool or sophisticated. It just confirms your insecurity and the inability to look at your own weaker sides and work on them.
You might be really bad at dating and making contact, but don't give me that bullshit about women. It's usually your own fault, and the sooner you realise this, the sooner you'll make progress.
buy me dinner
..oh i guess i'm not a real girl.
I bet you'd love to see my face right now.
It's not often that I blush...
All these years on the forum and I never realised that you were a girl.
Damn you, Internet with your anonymity!
1000 apologies.
Wait, why would you want to cut yourself off from half the world's population? Not wanting to seek a relationship is one thing, but avoiding women? That's kind of sad.