Ridley Scott's Prometheus (Alien Prequel) Thread
Four leaked photos from the set of Ridley Scott's upcoming film Prometheus (aka the prequel to Alien) have been leaked. Observe and worship the following slices of awesomeness...
A cave of some sort. You may note that the walls have an H.R. Giger (the creator of the Alien creature) vibe to them. Also, please note that the tractor is not a part of a set but rather an asset of the production team.
Mankind discovers an ancient doorway built by the mysterious Space Jockey race (whose skeletal remains were seen in the original Alien). Note the hieroglyphics surrounding the archway.
This is the secondary arch, just beyond the entrance shown in the pervious photo. Note the scale of the set against the chair towards the lower portion of the photo, this set is fucking epic!
We're now through the second archway and standing in the main chamber. All three of the above photos are displaying one massive, glorious set. You may notice that we're certainly not in Kansas anymore, but inside the genius mind of H.R. Giger. The franchise hasn't looked this close to its source material since Ridley's original '79 masterpiece...
This is the Space Jockey set from the original Alien. It looks rather similar to the leaked photo above, yes?
A cave of some sort. You may note that the walls have an H.R. Giger (the creator of the Alien creature) vibe to them. Also, please note that the tractor is not a part of a set but rather an asset of the production team.
Mankind discovers an ancient doorway built by the mysterious Space Jockey race (whose skeletal remains were seen in the original Alien). Note the hieroglyphics surrounding the archway.
This is the secondary arch, just beyond the entrance shown in the pervious photo. Note the scale of the set against the chair towards the lower portion of the photo, this set is fucking epic!
We're now through the second archway and standing in the main chamber. All three of the above photos are displaying one massive, glorious set. You may notice that we're certainly not in Kansas anymore, but inside the genius mind of H.R. Giger. The franchise hasn't looked this close to its source material since Ridley's original '79 masterpiece...
This is the Space Jockey set from the original Alien. It looks rather similar to the leaked photo above, yes?
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Actually, a fanboy emerged quite some time ago and confirmed that he had written the "Alien Harvest" script as a fan project. In short, it was never an official script. Therefore, there'll be no man-on-man rape action in Prometheus because it was never even considered by those involved within the production... thankfully.
Yeah... that is what I last read too... Seemed to me Scott just doesnt want to share credit with the other people responsible for Alien... So he was all like "this is a movie I totally thought up myself all by myself, feel free to still think its connected to Alien... as long as I do not have to share money or credit."
He didn't actually say that but its pretty much what I got from it. Seems like an asshole move to me.
and by the way, Ridley doesnt have a writing credit even though he steered it. He isnt "sharing" writing credit because he doesn't even HAVE any(and thats the only credit anyone else from the previous films would have gotten. Character credit to be exact). It IS still being made by the Alien production company Brandywine and the studio owns a lot of the rights anyways. This is a wait and see deal for me. We'll see if it sucks.
Oh wow, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Here's the low down...
* Ridley Scott has toyed with the idea of returning to the Alien franchise with a prequel for decades now, but has always stated that he's been holding off for a decent script because he felt there was no point in going back to that universe unless there was a worthy tale to be told. Now that's what I call artistic integrity.
Also, he frequently has stated in the past that he felt a prequel was the only worthwhile direction to take the franchise in and that he had a concept that he'd like to pursue (i.e. the how's and why's of the Space Jockey).
* As far back as the earliest Laserdisc / DVD commentaries of Alien, Sir Scott has expressed his interest in exploring the backstory of the mysterious Space Jockey species and often showed his bemusement at the multiple sequel's failure to expand upon the fascinating and original potential that pursuing such an obvious avenue would offer.
* The Alien prequel is officially announced, with Carl Erik Rinsch (an understudy of Ridley's, hand picked by the man himself) set to direct, based off a script by Jon Spaights (with the overriding story coming from Ridley Scott). However, Fox decides that it's through fucking over it's once glorious franchise with crap like the AVP movies and are not willing to take any risks this time with a relatively unproven director and so they demand that either Ridley Scott directs it or there's no film at all.
* Ridley Scott is announced as director.
* With the release of the Alien Anthology on Blu-Ray, Ridley wrote a note to the customers of said boxset explaining his return to the Alien universe and his excitement at the prospect. These are his words...
* Damon Lindelof comes on board to write a new draft of the script by Jon Spaights. Ridley releases a press release stating the following...
It has since transpired that Ridley was attempting to distance Prometheus from the previous Alien films because the story revolves around the Space Jockey race and isn't an Alien movie in the traditional sense (i.e. Xenomorpth(s) on the loose, group of humans try to survive the ordeal, resolution).
It was an attempt to preempt the often narrow minded expectations of the masses by denying the connection for the sake of the tweenies who love the AVP movies and have never even seen the original Alien (and thus have no knowledge of the Space Jockey race). Rest assured, Prometheus does take place within the established Alien universe and will almost certainly deal with our favourite acid spilling nightmare to some extent, although most likely in a different, non-human host form that we haven't seen before.
* Casting of the film takes place and filming begins.
* We start to hear interviews with the cast members, such as up-and-coming A-listers; Michael Fassbender, Noomi Rapace and Charlize Theron. The cast members gush over the film to be and confirm a still very much existent Alien connection. Here's a few choice cuts from Michael Fassbender, who is playing an android (with white blood no doubt) called David (also note that the droids in the Alien movies have been called, in order, Ash, Bishop, Call and now David)...
* Damon Lindelof recently discussed the film's connection to Alien and the reasoning behind it's vagueness (which actually makes a lot of sense and such wisdom could have saved us from the god awful Star Wars prequels)...
You probably shouldn't insinuate that people are assholes without the facts. The original writers of Alien; Dan O'Bannon and Ron Shusett are getting credits on the film as well as payment (in the case of O'Bannon's unfortunate passing, the money has been confirmed as going to his wife, by herself no less).
Also, Ridley Scott has got the "father" of the Alien creature, the superb artist H.R. Giger to return as a consultant, designer and sculpture maker for Prometheus. Seeming as Giger previously left the franchise on very bad terms with Fox (due to the suits financially shafting him time and time again), it's no small potatoes that he's returning. Why is he returning? Because he has immense respect for Ridley Scott and equally Ridley Scott has immense respect for H.R. Giger.
On top of this, the original producers / co-writers of the Alien films, Walter Hill and David Giler have been paid and credited for Prometheus.
So, yeah... don't go bad mouthing folks when you're coming from a place of total ignorance.
I agree with your thoughts. Although, I am curious as to whether you're happy with the concept of Prometheus being more about the Space Jockey race and less about the xenomorpth? By the way, why haven't us fans come up with a more suitable name than the vague and all encompassing "xenomorpth"?!
Call me a nit-picking, cow udder suckling, know it all, baked beanie, pompous, stuffy old Zilla-Mite if you'd care to but I believe you meant to say...
Hill and Giler didn't like O'Bannon and Shusett's script to begin with so who-chose-what ideas are still debated.
Hey, I'm always correct. Well, to be more accurate I'm mostly correct at night... mostly.
"Boooooo. I can't believe he did that tired old 'mostly' gag!"
Why, thank you kindly.
Absol-freakin'-utely.
I actually like the idea. The universe(and no, I obviously don't mind him expanding on it) needs something at this point. I'm sorry to say that Sigourney needed to go(or at least her creative control) and well I'm not so sorry to say that AVP threw too much garbage together. I do believe I can count on Scott to not have a "the end, or is it?" ending...it's the studio that I'm worried about. Anyone who has knowledge of what happened with the David Fincher incident should have the same fear. ...Just how much control does Ridley have? I do agree with Scott that the only direction the movies had was back. I don't recall if Resurrection had a date attached, but I think 3 was late 2100s or 3100s(It's been a while, I apologize for not having the dates on the top of my head at the moment, but I'm leaning towards 3100s). There's only so far ahead you can go before technology becomes a problem.
Hey, no worries. Allow me to summerise for you...
* I'm asolutely right and you're completely and utterly wrong... about everything in the world... ever.
* Ridley Scott is a genius and you are not. I, however, am an even greater genius than old Riddles himself and any other such puny mortal for that matter.
* 'Space Jockeys' are the favored choice of under-garment for the astronaut who likes style and comfort.
...that is all.
I couldn't agree more.
A lot more control than David Fincher had on the set of Alien 3, that's for sure. You have to remember that Alien3 was Fincher's first feature length film (he had been directing music videos prior to that). When Ridley Scott directed Alien in '79 he had already made his first feature film (the superb "The Duellists").
It's also worth noting that Ridley is a strong personality and always has been. He doesn't back down to the man (i.e. the suits at the studio). Fox put immense pressure on Scott throughout the filming of Alien and attempted to interfere with his vision. However, Ridley stood his ground and insisted that it was done his way. He won the battle.
I don't have the exact quote to hand (I know it's on the Alien DVD's extras somewhere) but allow me to paraphrase...
Well, the first Alien never specified the year in which the film is set but the first draft of the script stated that it was set during 2087 (that might seem too soon considering the advanced tech seen in the film but you have to remember that Alien is canonically following on from the alternate future shown in Blade Runner - even if it was yet to be conceived of, where the investment in the space program never ceased up and mankind explored the farthest stars).
Aliens takes place 57 years on from the original, so that places us at 2144.
Alien3 took place only a couple of weeks on from the previous movie and so we're still in 2144.
Alien Resurrection took place approximately 200 years after the events of Alien3, which means that it's set around 2344. So you were only about 750 years off.
... but of course, Resurrection never happened in my mind.
Ah, yes. You are indeed correct. That'll teach me to properly read other peoples posts in the future (which ever year that may be).
For the love of God, go and watch the assembly cut of Alien3 because it's fucking awesome, m'kay?
The assembly cut reinserts much of the cut content from the theatrical release, including the best part of the entire film; where the prisoners actually trap the alien midway through the film, only for Paul McGann's character (the "dragon" worshiping Golic) to slice the throat of the guarding prisoner and release his "God".
Also, the Alien itself is born from an Ox, as opposed to a dog. We also glimpse the "super-facehugger", which acts as carrier of the Queen's seed; hence why Ripley has a Queen chestburster inside her. There are many other alterations and edits, all of which make it a vastly superior film to the version you've most likely seen.
If, having watched the assembly cut (ideally on Blu-Ray, for which they brought back a few of the cast members to re-record certain dialogue and created a few new special effects) and you still think it's crap, then there really is no hope for you. Alien3: The Assembly Cut represents the true follow up to Ridley Scott's Alien, as opposed to James Cameron's action oriented Aliens (as great as it is).
Precisely, that's why I said that.
That does it! GET OUT OF THIS FORUM RIGHT NOW!
j/k
... sorta.
Indeed, Withnail's friend "I" is in Alien3 but be sure to watch the assembly cut, not just because it's great but because his best scenes were (insanely) cut from the theatrical version.
I'm glad that you're going to check out the assembly cut, I hope you enjoy it.
Regarding Newt and Hicks, the story really demands that they were killed off as quickly as possible. Alien3 is a tale of redemption, sacrifice and faith. Thematically it deals heavily with life and death. The scene which shines this thematic beacon the brightest is the funeral speech by Dillon; dedicated to the aforementioned characters...
Naturally, during this speech the films cuts back and forth between the funeral itself and the birth of the Alien from the ox. It's also worth noting the futile questions of "why" at the beggining of the Dillon's speech, this shows us that Alien3 is a film reflective of real life. In real life, you can strive to save someone and still lose them. In real life, things rarely go the way we would like them to. Only one thing is certain in real life; death and with each death, a new life.
James Cameron's Aliens was a blockbuster extravaganza. One of the finest action adventures ever committed to screen, in short; it's a classic of the genre it inhabits (which unlike Alien and Alien3, is not horror). It shows Ripley tortured by the events of the first film and by the loss of her daughter (although only in the special edition, which once again is the far superior version). It is however a "popcorn munching" flick, Ripley overcomes the loss of her daughter by saving Newt. She overcomes her fear of the xenomorpth by facing her literal demon and blowing it out of an airlock. The ending of Aliens is in no way true to life, it is pure happily-ever-after fantasy.
Alien3 represents a harsh crash back down to reality (or in this case, a penal colony). It is a dark, gritty and thoughtful film, which mirrors our own lives by asking questions that can never be answered and shows a life where bad things can happen to good people. The film also, through redemption, shows that hope and resilience will always spring eternal.
If you were to take the first three Alien films and lay them out, it is the second film which actually stands as the odd one out. Alien3 is the true spirtitual followup to the original masterpiece. Of course, that does not mean that you should necessarily favour Alien3 over Aliens (in fact, despite the fact that I personally prefer Alien3 over Aliens, I will concede that Aliens is a vastly more "polished" piece of work) but it should at the very least demonstrate the worthiness of Alien3's place in the franchise.
Alien 3, the diamond in the rough of the series.
Wow, that poster sends shivers down my spine!
For reference, here's a front on view of a facehugger.
It's body is at the top, centre and it's legs are wrapping around the sides down to the halfway point of the arch.
Just for kicks, here's the Queen embryo carrying "super-facehugger" from the assembly cut of Alien3....
Ridley Scott's Alien is my favourite film of all time and the following two sequels are certainly in my top 20. If I ever went on Mastermind, then the Alien films would undoubtedly be my specialist subject. I'm like a walking encyclopedia on acid spilling xenomorpths.
"Last week we saw a pair of cave-photos from the set of Ridley Scott's ALIEN-esque horror-show, PROMETHEUS...likely constructed on the famed Pinewood Studios in England. Well, news has come in today that Scott his moving his whole crew to that lovely bastion of summer getaways...Iceland!
Not only that, Scott had a few things to say regarding his highly-shrouded return to sci-fi. Peep it...
“If one is afraid of nature in this profession then it would be best to find a different job.”
That sounds like more of a Werner Herzog quote, but okay. More interestingly, Scott added:
“It will be 15 minutes in total, if all goes to plan. We are shooting the beginning of time.”
About the secrecy surrounding the production:
“There is a lot of innovative and new stuff in the film and it would be a shame to ruin that [surprise] with leaks.”
And regarding the ultimate reason to film in Iceland:
“It is possible to find similar landscapes elsewhere in the world,” Scott explained. “But here it is so rough and ‘Jurassic-like’ and that proved decisive. Iceland is a massively beautiful country.”
Coming June 8th of next year, visionary filmmaker Ridley Scott returns to the genre he helped define, creating an original science fiction epic set in the most dangerous corners of the universe. The film takes a team of scientists and explorers on a thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand them on a distant world, where they will discover the answers to our most profound questions and to life's ultimate mystery."
That quote's been taken out of context. It's Ridley's answer to a question regarding his fears about the recent warning that there may be volcanic eruptions during their filming in Iceland.
It's a reassuring quote that shows that Scott is still a filmmaker who likes to film on location and shoot everything in-camera whenever possible, as opposed to simply relying on CGI during the post-production process.
[PHOTOS DELETED VIA FOX'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT]
... I have reuploaded the photos for you on page 3 of this thread.
This first image shows that the objects seen in the silo are not eggs but in fact urns, believed to contain the mysterious green gloop.
The second photo reveals some more Giger influenced set design.
Furthermore , closer examination of two of the screen grabs from the Comic-Con footage reveal something of interest...
There is a large sculpture of what appears to be a human head in the silo. In the above shot, you can see this head from the back (with the ears to the left and right of the object).
Here you can see the head to the right of the shot (it's side on), with the nose being fairly prominent.
I'm seeing the images fine on my end.
You just summarized in short why I hate Aliens and Love Alien³. Thanks.
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Charlize Theron as the company suit with a dark secret.
A silo containing urns which are reminiscent of the eggs from Alien.
Micheal Fassbender as the android David.
Idris Elba.
The crew firing handguns at something offscreen.
Noomi Rapace performing naked situps and looking like Milla Jovovich from The Fifth Element.
This is either a woman in great pain or experiencing tremendous pleasure. I'm willing to bet on the former.
Charlize Theron as Vickers.
Two crew members examining a specimen.
A medical readout.
Two vehicles and a lot of floodlights.
Noomi Rapace falls to the floor due to the debilitating affects of long distance space travel.
One of the crew wearing a Minority Report style glove.
The ships medical room.
A platform which is similar to that of the Space Jockey as seen in Alien, sans Mr. Jockey.
Firing a flamethrower at something... could it be a xenomorpth?!
Noomi Rapace looks on in astonishment.
I'm willing to bet that this man is not yawning.
A far away shot of the silo (with the giant head).
Noomi Rapace.
'Did anyone else hear that?!'
Noomi Rapace lies in hypersleep.
A crew member examines something upon the ground.
A look at the newly designed hypersleep pods.
Idris Elba sits in a area of the ship that is highly evocative of the Nostromo's bridge.
I think it's fairly obvious which aspects of the film have been designed by Neville "Tron Legacy" Page.
The mysterious green gloop contained within the urns.
The interior of a vehicle.
Micheal Fassbender looks curiously at a drop of blood upon his finger.
A cave leading to a great discovery.
A set that looks like a cleaner version of the Nostromo's airlock.
The silo, the urns and the giant head.