Social evolution is a long, laborious process. It was only a century ago that only white males could vote, and only that long ago that such a thing as social security was conceived. And only forty years ago that we came up with our current version of medical care (as opposed to Britain's which occurred 60 years ago).
Do you really want to wait, though, and live your life in a totalitarian system? I'd much rather see the people poisoning this country taken out of the equation so that in my lifetime I could take part in making America what it should be. I don't want to spend my whole life in fear of my government, unable to fly or browse the net freely. I don't want to worry about America's newest "enemies" or continue to watch the corporate media stupefy and lie to my fellow countrymen.
The enemy is the system and I want it defeated so that America will be livable while I'm still alive.
Simply put, violent revolution is faster and is a far better option if you want to enjoy the fruits of your labors.
Canada. File sharing has been ruled legal here. Well, not really, but it's way more lax than the US that's for sure.
Just so everyone knows, it IS illegal here. They have publicly stated that it will not be actively enforced, however. They just don't want to spend the money and resources to just... well, waste money and resources. There IS a national cyber division, they just choose to focus more on pedophiles, monetary and identity theft, etc. It IS illegal though and just like a certain other adult enjoyment that has lax laws in Canada, if they are already going to charge you with something, they will add it on.
Violent revolution only occurs successfully when it has the support of the middle class which, by and large, are disgruntled with income disparity but not with personal income per se.
I don't live in fear of my government. I can say anything I want without fear of unwarranted search and seizure, and I am comfortable with my due process rights. I know that when I take something that's not mine I am committing theft and I am putting myself at risk due to that, but that's always going to be the case. I just don't see how the government is oppressing my ability to be on the internet.
Things like SOPA, PIPA, PCIP and ACTA *are* going to oppress the Internet though. By going after unsavory things like piracy, they're setting up the foundations of a totalitarian system that could be used to shut out dissenting views. Further, the legislation was essentially written by the MPAA and RIAA and is a giveaway to corporate America at your and my expense.
Meanwhile, you do have to fear unreasonable search and seizure every time you get on an airplane. If you don't want to go through their strip scanner, prepare to get felt up by a poorly paid, glorified security guard and treated like a criminal just for wanting to fly.
The worst part is that people like you just roll over and accept it without decrying the horrible monstrosity that our nation has become. How much more will it take? When will the masses see that the situation is untenable? When will we finally stop the government from steadily stripping us of our liberties? It only gets worse from here, and I hope fervently - indeed, I'd pray if there were a god - that my countrymen rise up soon and remove our borderline illegitimate government from its corrupt seat of power and throw the lobbyists and corporatists into the pit with them.
I'm kind of getting annoyed at the lack of interest here. This is ACTA. It's much worse than SOPA. It has your ISP monitor everything you do on the Internet. And no one seems to be doing anything compared to the backlash from SOPA/PIPA.
I'm kind of getting annoyed at the lack of interest here. This is ACTA. It's much worse than SOPA. It has your ISP monitor everything you do on the Internet. And no one seems to be doing anything compared to the backlash from SOPA/PIPA.
Because they're spent. People these days don't have the stamina and attention span for protracted protest, it seems.
Things like SOPA, PIPA, PCIP and ACTA *are* going to oppress the Internet though. By going after unsavory things like piracy, they're setting up the foundations of a totalitarian system that could be used to shut out dissenting views. Further, the legislation was essentially written by the MPAA and RIAA and is a giveaway to corporate America at your and my expense.
Meanwhile, you do have to fear unreasonable search and seizure every time you get on an airplane. If you don't want to go through their strip scanner, prepare to get felt up by a poorly paid, glorified security guard and treated like a criminal just for wanting to fly.
The worst part is that people like you just roll over and accept it without decrying the horrible monstrosity that our nation has become. How much more will it take? When will the masses see that the situation is untenable? When will we finally stop the government from steadily stripping us of our liberties? It only gets worse from here, and I hope fervently - indeed, I'd pray if there were a god - that my countrymen rise up soon and remove our borderline illegitimate government from its corrupt seat of power and throw the lobbyists and corporatists into the pit with them.
None of those things passed. So, of course I'm not afraid of them. I wrote my senators and took part in publicizing some of the issues with those acts, so I'm ok with my actions. In my view, at least for now, we won. And, we'll go at it again when the time comes. Edit: ACTA is the only one I perceive to be an ongoing issue.
As for searches to get onboard airplane flights, I've technically not got any problem with the scanner. The government subsidizes the entire airline industry and acts as its regulator. If it were an entirely private enterprise, maybe I'd think differently. Some form of monitoring does need to occur, given the high potential for destruction an airplane can cause.
We needn't be afraid of the unpassed, dead laws, it's true. What we DO need to be afraid of is the people who fervently believe that those laws are the right things to do and the people who are planning to try again and again to pass those laws until they succeed in some mangled form or another.
The fact that these laws got so far in the government with very few naysayers is frightening. The fact that NDAA got passed is frightening. The fact that we didn't know about these laws until relatively late in the game is frightening. The only reason SOPA was stopped is because of a few brave representatives who managed to delay it long enough for the internet to get mobilized. What if that doesn't happen next time? What if the internet surveilance law is packaged as...say a law to protect against child pornography or to keep tabs on known pedophiles? Will people be so eager to stand up against it when they will be seen as protecting child molesters?
This is why this needs to stop. Maybe not be violent revolution, which sounds like too many lives being wasted, but it needs to stop. We need to let the government know that we see what they're doing there and if they don't want to be out of a job, they had better do what we want them to do. They are public servants, not public lords and masters and they need to be told that, possibly repeatedly. Also, maybe given a few IQ tests or something.
So...you're DIRECTLY referencing the Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act, right?
Pretty much, yep. And that one's probably going to pass, so we'll still have an end to internet anonymity. And even if it doesn't, they'll keep on trying until they find something that makes the opponents of their act look like evil, creepy people who should be ostracized by society. Obviously using pirates wasn't bad enough, probably because so many people have pirated at least once in their lifetimes.
Pretty much, yep. And that one's probably going to pass, so we'll still have an end to internet anonymity. And even if it doesn't, they'll keep on trying until they find something that makes the opponents of their act look like evil, creepy people who should be ostracized by society. Obviously using pirates wasn't bad enough, probably because so many people have pirated at least once in their lifetimes.
Manipulative shit like that really does not win the corporate owned government any favors in my book.
He didn't in that particular opening. Eh, whatever. I guess this is just a prelude to people realizing that most of my jokes are stolen anyways. I was just hoping that this one was stolen from a non internet source (my dad says it all the time as well) and I was too lazy to double check.
I'm gonna have to warn you not to fall for Infowars' trickery in the stories, because Infowars' link is lying! Today, they posted a link that claims that SOPA will be rescheduled in February... when in fact the link is from over a week ago! And Infowars claims that the OPEN Act will harm the Internet! Infowars needs to get their facts straight and just SHUT UP! :mad: :mad: :mad:
That idiot Hollywood Astroturf has set up a lying ad that claims that it needs SOPA to shut down MegaUpload... when in fact MegaUpload has already been shut down since 5 days ago! What an idiot!
While not as severe....it looks like Canada's up to bat next. Recent changes to the bill have made it close to the USA's attempt. Although in Canada, we have the power to say "we don't like what you're doing, GTFO, now" to our leaders, there would be no guarantee of a reversal even if that happens. Bummer.
You Canuks helped us yanks out with our fascism problem. How can I, as an American, help kill bill C-11? Say the word and I can get 12 well trained Peruvian mercenaries to storm the Houses of Parliament.
It couldn't hurt. Unlike the USA, we don't have any major corporations or websites to publicly oppose it. Since no USA sites would actually shut down and the bill's details are under black marker... what does one do? I don't really know either. They DO have to make the information available when the bill is up for parliament vote...but until then, they don't have to share anything apparently, since it's technically not a final draft....Not much time for anyone to oppose it once it's up to vote. Almost wish for the American tradition of everything taking forever.
While not as severe....it looks like Canada's up to bat next. Recent changes to the bill have made it close to the USA's attempt. Although in Canada, we have the power to say "we don't like what you're doing, GTFO, now" to our leaders, there would be no guarantee of a reversal even if that happens. Bummer.
Thankfully we also have the power to say that to our leaders . I'm sure there are plenty of Canadian companies that could protest this bill, as I can think of a few gaming companies that probably wouldn't like it.
well, the big one is EA and Bioware...which didn't do a whole lot to help down there. Dammit Bioware, I don't play your games but I hear Mass Effect and That star wars old republic thing are pretty popular... do something!
Hear that, Ally Cory Morty Mort! Your voice recording will be temporarily safe!
Huzzah! Do you think I should send a letter to my congressman saying that Megaupload shouldn't be destroyed because then I'll have to find that weird tongue twister that I said, speak it into a microphone, and upload it to another file sharing service that will likely also be destroyed? Damn, now that I wrote that out, it sounds like a lot of work. I think I'll just switch it to something relating to internet archaeology, something that I anticipate being a real thing someday.
Hundreds of years into the future, people will delve through the remnants of the Internet AND THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT I SOUNDED LIKE! They'll find that thread where we compare accents and click the link...and get a 404 error. They'll curse the entity that caused that crucial piece of information, essential to their research, to be destroyed. And it will be all the government's fault...
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The enemy is the system and I want it defeated so that America will be livable while I'm still alive.
Simply put, violent revolution is faster and is a far better option if you want to enjoy the fruits of your labors.
Just so everyone knows, it IS illegal here. They have publicly stated that it will not be actively enforced, however. They just don't want to spend the money and resources to just... well, waste money and resources. There IS a national cyber division, they just choose to focus more on pedophiles, monetary and identity theft, etc. It IS illegal though and just like a certain other adult enjoyment that has lax laws in Canada, if they are already going to charge you with something, they will add it on.
I don't live in fear of my government. I can say anything I want without fear of unwarranted search and seizure, and I am comfortable with my due process rights. I know that when I take something that's not mine I am committing theft and I am putting myself at risk due to that, but that's always going to be the case. I just don't see how the government is oppressing my ability to be on the internet.
Meanwhile, you do have to fear unreasonable search and seizure every time you get on an airplane. If you don't want to go through their strip scanner, prepare to get felt up by a poorly paid, glorified security guard and treated like a criminal just for wanting to fly.
The worst part is that people like you just roll over and accept it without decrying the horrible monstrosity that our nation has become. How much more will it take? When will the masses see that the situation is untenable? When will we finally stop the government from steadily stripping us of our liberties? It only gets worse from here, and I hope fervently - indeed, I'd pray if there were a god - that my countrymen rise up soon and remove our borderline illegitimate government from its corrupt seat of power and throw the lobbyists and corporatists into the pit with them.
I'm kind of getting annoyed at the lack of interest here. This is ACTA. It's much worse than SOPA. It has your ISP monitor everything you do on the Internet. And no one seems to be doing anything compared to the backlash from SOPA/PIPA.
Because they're spent. People these days don't have the stamina and attention span for protracted protest, it seems.
Holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit this needs to be killed now.
This is a load of bullshit coming from you, and you know it.
None of those things passed. So, of course I'm not afraid of them. I wrote my senators and took part in publicizing some of the issues with those acts, so I'm ok with my actions. In my view, at least for now, we won. And, we'll go at it again when the time comes. Edit: ACTA is the only one I perceive to be an ongoing issue.
As for searches to get onboard airplane flights, I've technically not got any problem with the scanner. The government subsidizes the entire airline industry and acts as its regulator. If it were an entirely private enterprise, maybe I'd think differently. Some form of monitoring does need to occur, given the high potential for destruction an airplane can cause.
The fact that these laws got so far in the government with very few naysayers is frightening. The fact that NDAA got passed is frightening. The fact that we didn't know about these laws until relatively late in the game is frightening. The only reason SOPA was stopped is because of a few brave representatives who managed to delay it long enough for the internet to get mobilized. What if that doesn't happen next time? What if the internet surveilance law is packaged as...say a law to protect against child pornography or to keep tabs on known pedophiles? Will people be so eager to stand up against it when they will be seen as protecting child molesters?
This is why this needs to stop. Maybe not be violent revolution, which sounds like too many lives being wasted, but it needs to stop. We need to let the government know that we see what they're doing there and if they don't want to be out of a job, they had better do what we want them to do. They are public servants, not public lords and masters and they need to be told that, possibly repeatedly. Also, maybe given a few IQ tests or something.
http://tiny.cc/19zn4
Dear Rupert Murdoch: Let's Talk Piracy and "The Simpsons"
I do agree with this in principle. Yesterday I tried to find Megamind on Hulu, Netflix, and On-Demand (through my cable provider). Results? Nada.
Pretty much, yep. And that one's probably going to pass, so we'll still have an end to internet anonymity. And even if it doesn't, they'll keep on trying until they find something that makes the opponents of their act look like evil, creepy people who should be ostracized by society. Obviously using pirates wasn't bad enough, probably because so many people have pirated at least once in their lifetimes.
Manipulative shit like that really does not win the corporate owned government any favors in my book.
I don't understand. We have the best government money can buy!
Well, you didn't say it and the opening was perfect!
He did, just not on this thread.
What's a the if? Is that some new article combo that's so popular with the kiddywinks these days?
He didn't in that particular opening. Eh, whatever. I guess this is just a prelude to people realizing that most of my jokes are stolen anyways. I was just hoping that this one was stolen from a non internet source (my dad says it all the time as well) and I was too lazy to double check.
It's a shut up, doodoomeaniepants.
You're the one that misspelled thief.
Also from Forbes: Who Really Stopped SOPA, and Why?
That idiot Hollywood Astroturf has set up a lying ad that claims that it needs SOPA to shut down MegaUpload... when in fact MegaUpload has already been shut down since 5 days ago! What an idiot!
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120125/03500717535/hollywood-astroturf-group-releases-ad-saying-it-needs-sopa-to-shut-down-megaupload-five-days-after-megaupload-is-shut-down.shtml
Just wait until April. JUST YOU WAIT.
Psh. I'm not waiting around. I'm going to sprint as quickly as possible for the nearest exit and leave caltrops in my wake.
Thankfully we also have the power to say that to our leaders
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46190158/ns/technology_and_science-security/#.TycT9YH4jJY
And here are two stories from Techdirt.
This makes me sad. There goes the only legitimate recording of my voice that is on the internet. That's literally all my account had on it.
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/31/10279582-report-megaupload-data-safe-for-two-more-weeks
Hear that, Ally Cory Morty Mort! Your voice recording will be temporarily safe!
Huzzah! Do you think I should send a letter to my congressman saying that Megaupload shouldn't be destroyed because then I'll have to find that weird tongue twister that I said, speak it into a microphone, and upload it to another file sharing service that will likely also be destroyed? Damn, now that I wrote that out, it sounds like a lot of work. I think I'll just switch it to something relating to internet archaeology, something that I anticipate being a real thing someday.
Hundreds of years into the future, people will delve through the remnants of the Internet AND THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT I SOUNDED LIKE! They'll find that thread where we compare accents and click the link...and get a 404 error. They'll curse the entity that caused that crucial piece of information, essential to their research, to be destroyed. And it will be all the government's fault...
http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/viacom-ceo-blames-misinformation-for-shelving-of-anti-piracy-bills/
Also, copying is not theft, but censorship is!
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120129/03171517578/copying-is-not-theft-censorship-is.shtml
And MegaUpload's closure means more users for legit music services.
http://www.myce.com/news/riaa-closing-megaupload-means-more-users-will-flock-to-legit-music-services-57886/