Fuck legitimate services. Those guys, ultimately, end up filling the RIAA and MPAA's pockets and they are the enemy in this struggle. To win in war, you must deny your enemy their resources. To win in political struggle against corporations, you must deny the enemy their revenue.
Fuck legitimate services. Those guys, ultimately, end up filling the RIAA and MPAA's pockets and they are the enemy in this struggle. To win in war, you must deny your enemy their resources. To win in political struggle against corporations, you must deny the enemy their revenue.
Anyway, explain how denying those parasites their resources is not a perfectly valid strategy?
If you can come up with a business plan that both encourages the arts and the growth of culture, and cuts out the parasitic middle man then you will have my full support!
Raging for rage's sake is fun, but not terribly productive if you don't have a plan for when you take down the system .
Anyway, explain how denying those parasites their resources is not a perfectly valid strategy?
Oh it would be an excellent strategy, but most people wouldn't give up their entertainment. I mean, think about it, movies and TV are like drugs and the industry that produces them are the biggest pushers on the planet. Suggesting that someone miss their favorite show on TV is often as difficult as convincing a smoker to lay off for a week or two.
I have a hard time understanding this phenomenon myself, because, while I do have a number of shows that I like, I grew up without television and still don't have one. Even shows that I absolutely love I couldn't tell you what time they come on because I generally just either pick the whole season up from Netflix later or...uh...yeah. Point is, things would have to get bad, unbelievably bad, before a boycott would work.
PLAN: Everyone pirates. I mean everyone who isn't a part of the RIAA or MPAA cartels. In this way, the enemy's - and make no mistake, it is accurate to label anyone who pushes legislation against the common man's interests an enemy - revenue will be removed and they will shrivel and starve.
Congress won't be able to legislate it as statistically speaking, most people would be used to piracy and not want to give up their free goods and enough people would be vocal that the point could not be ignored; for if it's one thing the Washington traitors love more than their filthy money, it's reelection. In this way, the RIAA and MPAA will collapse and smaller, unaffiliated (and often more talented) artists can rise to success via crowd funded and self distributed music will become more popular.
And what about the actors, set designers, and writers? Really? I don't like the middleman, which is why I buy games direct from the publisher as often as I can. This is a case of killing a lion by firebombing all cats. Just stop buying. Don't pirate- don't give the MPAA and RIAA the tools to say that their work is being stolen.
I like my plan because the consumer doesn't have to deny themselves the goods they want whilst in the course of defeating the enemy. Ultimately, it's the path of least inconvenience for most people.
I like my plan because the consumer doesn't have to deny themselves the goods they want whilst in the course of defeating the enemy. Ultimately, it's the path of least inconvenience for most people.
And thats the problem. You can't get what you want AND fufil a no-buy protest. One or the other, unless you want to give ammo to your enemy.
I like my plan because the consumer doesn't have to deny themselves the goods they want whilst in the course of defeating the enemy. Ultimately, it's the path of least inconvenience for most people.
The thing about your plan is that if the entertainment industry is actually robbed of their money, they'll just stop making movies. The real issue now is that they don't understand that they AREN'T being robbed. The people who are pirating wouldn't pay for their services anyways if pirating wasn't an option.
There's also a bit of jealousy as well. I guess the industry just can't wrap their mind around the fact that maybe if they made their goods more accessible and at lower cost, they would actually make more money. Revolutionary. Instead of forcing people to pay fifteen bucks to sit in a greasy disgusting movie theater that's been there since the eighties, maybe they should allow legal downloads of a released movie for a few bucks, hard copies later for the people that want them, and a better movie-going experience for the theaters (you pay more, but you'd maybe get a nice dinner to go along with the movie as part of the ticket).
And TV stations, they could have an "online cable" type of network where for a small subscription fee, you can watch any show you like when you want to watch it.
This is my entertainment utopia, I guess. I don't mind paying for things I like, in fact, I prefer it as a way to show the people responsible that enjoy their product and I'd like them to make more good things. But the problem I encounter is that this industry provides no accessible way to come buy their stuff in a legal and convenient manner. And the pirates do. They need to look inward and adopt the policies of the people with the better business model: the pirates.
a better movie-going experience for the theaters (you pay more, but you'd maybe get a nice dinner to go along with the movie as part of the ticket).
Having worked in a theatre myself during high school, I know that ticket sales for movies go primarily to the production companies, while concession sales (popcorn and coke, etc.) pay for the theatre itself. This is why concessions are so expensive. If there is to be a better service at theatres than is at present, it's not up to the people actually making the movies to do so.
And TV stations, they could have an "online cable" type of network where for a small subscription fee, you can watch any show you like when you want to watch it.
I also had this idea a few days ago. As a Cox customer, I should be given then option to stream TV shows online through a Cox-related service.
In fact, several years ago (less than ten, but more than five) I had the idea that online streaming services would make standard cable/satellite TV services outmoded. Certainly there has been an increase in platform availability for services such as Netflix (eg. via Roku/AppleTV; game console apps; smartphone apps; etc.) but it's not taking over the TV viewing market like I first anticipated. The reason for this, however, is limited content availability. I'm not going to pay to get Netflix or Hulu Plus or Amazon Prime if NCIS, one of the most popular TV shows in the USA, which is my wife's favorite show, is not available anywhere legit to stream. Even CBS.com only has two or three full episodes at a time to watch from their site.
It's true, the production companies have no idea what profits they're missing out on from not making their content available to stream from the net.
They're trying to shut down our access to piracy sites and the likes. Okay, I get it, it makes you lose revenue. But if we can prove them there are better alternatives than what we have now, better online services, that sort of shenanigans, then by god we should.
Why shouldn't we use Steam or Desura or GOG? In fact, what better way to prove that the RIAA and the MPAA that a solid online service works than to actually use these very same online services? I mean, why not start with services that provide us with good music online, DRM free. Most on iTunes is DRM free already, and there surely are enough services providing FLAC music for the audiophiles.
Instead of promoting piracy, we should promote good online services. The former will make you the enemy, the latter the innovator. Or whatever, I only got three hours of sleep anyway.
Having worked in a theatre myself during high school, I know that ticket sales for movies go primarily to the production companies, while concession sales (popcorn and coke, etc.) pay for the theatre itself. This is why concessions are so expensive. If there is to be a better service at theatres than is at present, it's not up to the people actually making the movies to do so.
I'm pretty sure that the big production companies have some deal going with the theaters that prevents them from innovating. Or maybe just they are that blinded to how much more they could make if they made their stuff available sooner. I suggested this alternative version of theaters in case it was the former, to show that the normal theaters wouldn't have to close down and the big production companies lose all that revenue...they just all become like nice versions of the El Capitan or something. An organ recital before every showing!
I wouldn't mind paying a buck to stream a recently released movie once and I might see more movies that I only have a passing interest in that way and then save theater visits for movies I've really been looking forward to. Or even three to four bucks to buy a downloadable release. The only reasons I can think of that they haven't done this already is that they hate money, they've got some contract with the DVD publishers, or they've collectively been in a coma for the past fifteen years or so and robots are now running the entertainment industry.
That's what I'm talking about. I'd pay for that. It would probably be only slightly more than what you pay for concessions except the food would probably be better.
We have a this chain of local restarants/hotels that occasionally have theaters in them. They're called McMennamins. I've only been to the Kennedy School Theater and the Baghdad Theater though.
Typically they show movies that are newish but not fresh out. Or older films.
Watching the movie itself is only 3 bucks. You can get dinner too which I like to get a burger and sweet potato fries. Their regular fries are too soggy.
I read about that on Ars Technica. Apparently this was his formal response to the EFF's amicus brief, and he didn't bother to actually offer a counterargument for anything they said. Needless to say, judges tend not to like that kind of unprofessionalism, so there may be some fun coming up there.
Forget about SOPA and PIPA, ACTA is a problem now!
True. Thankfully the news out of Europe isn't all bad. Germany is moving to put it on ice, as are several other countries further east. The Netherlands is postponing a decision in order to look into constitutional issues, as are several other countries iirc.
Meanwhile Avaaz.org has gathered 2 million signatures on a petition to EU Parliament (Sign it! Especially if you're European.), and is hoping to get to 3 million before the most important votes take place. And as they point out: if the EU Parliament rejects ACTA, it's dead.
Comments
Comrade Pants, you remind me of this guy.
I was hoping that would be Sūn Tzǐ (孙武).
Seriously, look at this guy. Fucking legit.
Anyway, explain how denying those parasites their resources is not a perfectly valid strategy?
If you can come up with a business plan that both encourages the arts and the growth of culture, and cuts out the parasitic middle man then you will have my full support!
Raging for rage's sake is fun, but not terribly productive if you don't have a plan for when you take down the system
Oh it would be an excellent strategy, but most people wouldn't give up their entertainment. I mean, think about it, movies and TV are like drugs and the industry that produces them are the biggest pushers on the planet. Suggesting that someone miss their favorite show on TV is often as difficult as convincing a smoker to lay off for a week or two.
I have a hard time understanding this phenomenon myself, because, while I do have a number of shows that I like, I grew up without television and still don't have one. Even shows that I absolutely love I couldn't tell you what time they come on because I generally just either pick the whole season up from Netflix later or...uh...yeah. Point is, things would have to get bad, unbelievably bad, before a boycott would work.
Congress won't be able to legislate it as statistically speaking, most people would be used to piracy and not want to give up their free goods and enough people would be vocal that the point could not be ignored; for if it's one thing the Washington traitors love more than their filthy money, it's reelection. In this way, the RIAA and MPAA will collapse and smaller, unaffiliated (and often more talented) artists can rise to success via crowd funded and self distributed music will become more popular.
And thats the problem. You can't get what you want AND fufil a no-buy protest. One or the other, unless you want to give ammo to your enemy.
But exactly how long can those parasites keep up their fight without revenue? Lawyers aren't free, you know. Neither are scumbag lobbyists.
Realistically? Not going to happen.
The thing about your plan is that if the entertainment industry is actually robbed of their money, they'll just stop making movies. The real issue now is that they don't understand that they AREN'T being robbed. The people who are pirating wouldn't pay for their services anyways if pirating wasn't an option.
There's also a bit of jealousy as well. I guess the industry just can't wrap their mind around the fact that maybe if they made their goods more accessible and at lower cost, they would actually make more money. Revolutionary. Instead of forcing people to pay fifteen bucks to sit in a greasy disgusting movie theater that's been there since the eighties, maybe they should allow legal downloads of a released movie for a few bucks, hard copies later for the people that want them, and a better movie-going experience for the theaters (you pay more, but you'd maybe get a nice dinner to go along with the movie as part of the ticket).
And TV stations, they could have an "online cable" type of network where for a small subscription fee, you can watch any show you like when you want to watch it.
This is my entertainment utopia, I guess. I don't mind paying for things I like, in fact, I prefer it as a way to show the people responsible that enjoy their product and I'd like them to make more good things. But the problem I encounter is that this industry provides no accessible way to come buy their stuff in a legal and convenient manner. And the pirates do. They need to look inward and adopt the policies of the people with the better business model: the pirates.
--- Having worked in a theatre myself during high school, I know that ticket sales for movies go primarily to the production companies, while concession sales (popcorn and coke, etc.) pay for the theatre itself. This is why concessions are so expensive. If there is to be a better service at theatres than is at present, it's not up to the people actually making the movies to do so.
I also had this idea a few days ago. As a Cox customer, I should be given then option to stream TV shows online through a Cox-related service.
In fact, several years ago (less than ten, but more than five) I had the idea that online streaming services would make standard cable/satellite TV services outmoded. Certainly there has been an increase in platform availability for services such as Netflix (eg. via Roku/AppleTV; game console apps; smartphone apps; etc.) but it's not taking over the TV viewing market like I first anticipated. The reason for this, however, is limited content availability. I'm not going to pay to get Netflix or Hulu Plus or Amazon Prime if NCIS, one of the most popular TV shows in the USA, which is my wife's favorite show, is not available anywhere legit to stream. Even CBS.com only has two or three full episodes at a time to watch from their site.
It's true, the production companies have no idea what profits they're missing out on from not making their content available to stream from the net.
They're trying to shut down our access to piracy sites and the likes. Okay, I get it, it makes you lose revenue. But if we can prove them there are better alternatives than what we have now, better online services, that sort of shenanigans, then by god we should.
Why shouldn't we use Steam or Desura or GOG? In fact, what better way to prove that the RIAA and the MPAA that a solid online service works than to actually use these very same online services? I mean, why not start with services that provide us with good music online, DRM free. Most on iTunes is DRM free already, and there surely are enough services providing FLAC music for the audiophiles.
Instead of promoting piracy, we should promote good online services. The former will make you the enemy, the latter the innovator. Or whatever, I only got three hours of sleep anyway.
I'm pretty sure that the big production companies have some deal going with the theaters that prevents them from innovating. Or maybe just they are that blinded to how much more they could make if they made their stuff available sooner. I suggested this alternative version of theaters in case it was the former, to show that the normal theaters wouldn't have to close down and the big production companies lose all that revenue...they just all become like nice versions of the El Capitan or something. An organ recital before every showing!
I wouldn't mind paying a buck to stream a recently released movie once and I might see more movies that I only have a passing interest in that way and then save theater visits for movies I've really been looking forward to. Or even three to four bucks to buy a downloadable release. The only reasons I can think of that they haven't done this already is that they hate money, they've got some contract with the DVD publishers, or they've collectively been in a coma for the past fifteen years or so and robots are now running the entertainment industry.
They're going to talk anyways, we should at least have a good meal while they do so.
Out here, we have a Cinebarre. I've heard it's overpriced, though.
Typically they show movies that are newish but not fresh out. Or older films.
Watching the movie itself is only 3 bucks. You can get dinner too which I like to get a burger and sweet potato fries. Their regular fries are too soggy.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120203/00520517643/hollywood-still-doesnt-realize-that-internet-drives-popular-culture-now.shtml
Also, John Steele calls Electronic Frontier Foundation a "radical quasi-anarchist" and insults it! Moron! :mad:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120201/00323017610/copyright-troll-submits-entire-filing-about-how-radical-quasi-anarchist-eff-should-be-blocked-participating-case.shtml
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120127/11374517570/if-politicians-pushing-sopapipa-want-to-create-jobs-they-should-support-internet-stop-treating-copyright-companies-as-special.shtml
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120216/04513817777/directors-guild-boss-insists-that-everyone-against-sopapipa-was-duped.shtml
as first: I'm a girl.
as second: it says MADE BY DOGGLEGANGER.
as third: you made me lol.
(How much was I joking? Hmm...)
Meanwhile Avaaz.org has gathered 2 million signatures on a petition to EU Parliament (Sign it! Especially if you're European.), and is hoping to get to 3 million before the most important votes take place. And as they point out: if the EU Parliament rejects ACTA, it's dead.
Ahem.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402046,00.asp