Very disappointed - going to complain to steam
I waited almost 2 months for second episode. Now telltale changes the deal to periodic releases. WTF? I didn't paid for this. If You offer something You have to deliver. I bought 5 episodes released monthly. I expect monthly releases or refund. I'm not having fun waiting. Don't sell what You don't have - it's a scam.
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Besides, TTG announced that they were delaying the game and stated an alternate release window in the exact same blog post. They also released a formal apology for the delay and updated the remaining games' release schedule. Now, do you have an actual, legitimate complaint or problem with the game, or can we just safely throw this thread in with the ~250 other general bitching threads?
I found something close to that, at least the apology but I didn't see an updated schedule. I want to see if we are seeing the same thing.
Really? Legitimate complaint for what exactly?
A scam would be hooking you up for something you pay upfront for and then NOT DELIVERING SAID PRODUCT. Essentially you would have paid upfront to receive nothing or only part of something. Not releasing the game in the original "planned" time line? I agree with Ted, this is mostly "general bitching", and didn't really require a new thread.
Just like the rest of life, something get caught up in the works, causing a delay in how fast they can make the episodes available. They have acknowledged this, and have released a new tentative release date for episode three. Can't handle the delay? Consider this a life lesson to NEVER pre-order a game ever again. There's not much else you can do.
This page shows the release date for next episode.
ah good very good. Thank you.
So I was reading the same thing. But I don't see anything about future dates or plans for the next parts.
Just seems like they said "our bad" and kept it moving.
It actually says Mid August is the release date for next episode.
I have to agree and disagree with her.
I as a rule do not pre-order anything. Even my most beloved series from childhood "Metal Gear Solid" I don't pre-order. But for some reasons I did not consider this a pre-order. I thought I was getting a game that was like a tv show or comic. That can be seen as a pre-order and I'll take the fault for that.
But still, I feel as if this lot has fumbled the ball, and I suspect everyone else is just complacent with bad service. Not to bash the states but my God, this country has horrible customer service and this is a fine example. It's like the rap artist say "F-you pay me!"
Yeah, yeah I saw that part, in the middle paragraph. I saw it the first go around, but I was under the impression from the Butler's post that a time table for the rest of the episodes was hashed out. That's why I even asked for a link. I wanted to see that.
merge time...
They didn't deliver. Monthly releases means I should have new episode every month. I didn't agree to change release cycle. You need to be stupid to wait 10 months for 5 episodes. I will do everything in my power to get refund from steam (eaven going with chargeback - only this game on account) and will never buy anything from telltale. If they think I'm stupid and they can do whatever they want they are wrong. No service = no payment.
The game was released btw.
Seems like a heavy price to pay my friend. Sometimes you just gotta eat the loss. They won this time around.
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If it would have taken them a year to make it otherwise, why did they think it would take them less than half a year to make it on episode release?
Answer:
Undoubtedly no intent to deceive = not a scam.
Get your wording right. And stupidity insults can make a thread rather short-lived.
i think maybee they could relese on time if they wern't trying to concentrate on relesing it on new cross platforms also never buying another telltale game
They altered the episode schedule to reflect what will probably happen, as well as apologizing for such. Also, you've already played through 2/5 of the game, how can you ask for a refund at this point, it would be like buying a game at gamestop, playing it for 3 hours and then trying to return because you don't like it's pace.
And if you don't like uncertain release dates, HeavyPre, maybe you should hold back on the HeavyPreordering!
Hee hee. *cries, wipes tear*
Hey thanks for that. It's all I ever wanted. I take back all the snarky thing I ever said about the company.
Except the California things, those stay.
It's good to see a company owning up. I respect that. Take as long as they like then, I just hope it is worth the wait.
Hey everyone, just to clarify, the guys that worked on the iOS port are different than the rest of the guys on the Episode 3 team.
honestly you just need to man the fuck up, its not a large amount of money and would you rather a shit rushed game like every other game from the big studios lately? or do you want them to take their time and do the best they can? the choice is pretty obvious.
It's called pre-order.. Pre = Earlier, before.
They're selling something they're going to have later - it's not a scam.
Man, we can't go five seconds without Godzilla whining about something.
"RRRRRAAAAAAAAAGHHHH!"
"RRRRRRRRAAAAAGHHHHHH!"
"RRRRAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH!"
Hopefully this time he doesn't destroy New York again.
They announced they had acquired the license at the beginning of 2011. Nothing more.
They were still occupied with Back to the Future at the time (with three episodes still to be released), then released Puzzle Agent 2 in the middle of the year and four episodes of Jurassic Park in November. They started into 2012 with 7 multi-platform episodes of Law & Order Legacies.
IMHO, "they had over a year to get this done" means not understanding the episodic concept. OF COURSE the bulk of the work is done after the first episode releases with the help of the TTG engine. OF COURSE this is an immense pressure on the developers - and has always been in the last six years. This is what episodic means. "Can you finish all episodes before you release the first one?" is like asking for water to be less wet.
If they make Fables in 2013, I'm waiting for the new community members stating "They had two years to finish this!".
He has some points. Don't thrash him. It's logical and exactly what one would expect if they have no prior relationship with the company.
I only disagree at the end of the statement. For me the company apologized, addressed the issue head on, and now it's time to move on.
I say, let them do the work, nothing more can be done. Yeah, its a bum but hey, going into the future we can all be wiser about our time and money.
Just as an FYI, they actually do write the next episode before they release the first one - in fact they have the whole season's story arc planned out, if not individual lines of dialogue. Development is staggered, rather than a straight "work on ep 1, then work on ep 2" scenario. I think when they release episode 1 they already have a lot of work done for ep 2, and are usually recording dialogue for ep 3. Because episodes are being worked on simultaneously, each one has a different director/lead to manage it (you'll see this in the episode credits).
I don't completely agree with the OP, but I don't completely disagree with him either. The fact is we were told we would get monthly releases, and that has not come to fruition at all.
The only thing that irks me is the fact that the only update on episode three is that it'll be finished sometime in the middle of this month. You would think this company would learn from the lack of communication the previous episode that they should be upfront and honest with the consumers who are paying for their game.
Thats all I want, and it isn't asking for too much.
I posted in the release date thread today that Telltale really can't tweet "we're still on track for mid August" every day. Long term Telltale fans really don't see the need for continued progress updates - but that is because they've gained a trust in the company that new people likely can not have after what they experienced between episode 1 and 2.
So, what the heck, I support that Telltale should raise a finger in this quiet moment and speak a few words about their progress at the present time.
When Telltale gets back to hitting their release time frames like a nail on the head, maybe this whole discussion is a topic of yesterday. If the insecurity persists, however, reconsidering the "complete Season" sales might not be a bad thing.
a) it's usually better value for money
b) most people would like to see the game through and complete the story
then there are the minority of idiots who want to fight the machine and 'conformaty'
You clearly are using a metaphor you don't understand. Only hour long dramas like Dexter and premium channels are written out so far in advance as a rule. When it comes to sitcoms, they are written as episodically as you claim they are not. An episode is filmed while the next is being written.
Actors don't know where an arc is going because no one but the showrunner has any idea of what's happening. Look at South Park. That is written two days before it airs.
Episodic gaming works EXACTLY like sitcoms. The only difference is they have more work to do.
So either come up with metaphors that prove you right, or give them some slack.
That makes sense for shows like SNL but you mean that all sitcoms are written one at a time.
I dunno..doesn't the studio buy a season, or buy contracts etc etc for a certain length of time. Don't they know ahead of time what they will air. How does the studio know what it is getting. The show may not be "shot" but at least it is written. Even in books and novels they make the author give an outline for books in a trilogy even if the whole book is not out. Its the only way to know that they will get something in the future.
I mean, if you say so it is I guess, its just I was always under the impression that the season was long completed before it was "shot"
Yeah, you're right to say it doesn't make any sense. They might outline the season, but I don't think many sitcoms have that many planned out in advance beyond possibly the finale. I think they even market for spec scripts from outside sources.
I'm writing some sitcoms to get into a fellowship. This stuff fascinates me. I couldn't really tell you all of how it works, but I guess a lot of it depends on the showrunner [in charge of planning and okaying plotlines].
Yeah, okay I can live with that.
At least an outline. If not a few shows written out ahead of airing the first.
A fellowship huh? So you are a writer, it's nice to have fellow artists around. I wish you well sir.
Blanket statements and hyperbole do nothing to serve honest debate.
Oh yeah??? Well how's this??
**sarcasm** The game sucks man.... It was all late and stuff.. And then when it was finally released our decisions didn't even matter.. Like if I decided not to do something it happened anyway man. Every decision should lead to a completely different course of action maaaan. Telltale really needs to step up because this game not having an infinite number of different storylines just irks me so.**end sarcasm**