Implying that I would hit you! The audacity, the gall! It's WORSE than assuming that because you were incensed with the late release date for episode two, everyone was! I demand you retract the most overtly slanderous statement I've ever seen in my life, meant to completely defame my character and good name here on these forums! People like you are the reason that Tell Tale Games can't release a game on time!...
Blanket statements and hyperbole do nothing to serve honest debate.
No I stated facts mixed with my opinion. It is my opinion that the second episode was extremely predictable...Many people share this view. It is fact that the decision percentages were no where near even this time around...There was clearly a "best" path that most people followed. And the game is barely a game...there is very little interaction at all and most of it is superficial.
So we have a predictable story that requires very little from the player and has a clear optimum path(in episode 2). If this was some new IP you've never heard of would you be happy with what you've been given so far? I sure as hell wouldn't...The name is carrying this "game".
It is fact that the decision percentages were no where near even this time around...There was clearly a "best" path that most people followed.
The decision percentages weren't even for the first episode either. The amount of people who chose Carley over Doug was huge, but that doesn't mean that choosing Carley was the "best" path, or that choosing to save the brothers in episode 2 was the "best" path either.
The decision percentages weren't even for the first episode either. The amount of people who chose Carley over Doug was huge, but that doesn't mean that choosing Carley was the "best" path, or that choosing to save the brothers in episode 2 was the "best" path either.
Tell me about it. Wasn't there like a 10% of people who shot Jolene, much less then saving Doug?
The decision percentages weren't even for the first episode either. The amount of people who chose Carley over Doug was huge, but that doesn't mean that choosing Carley was the "best" path, or that choosing to save the brothers in episode 2 was the "best" path either.
As I recall that was the only decision in the first episode that was skewed. The devs actually bragged about how close the percentages were and how it showed the decisions were balanced...
No I stated facts mixed with my opinion. It is my opinion that the second episode was extremely predictable...Many people share this view. It is fact that the decision percentages were no where near even this time around...There was clearly a "best" path that most people followed. And the game is barely a game...there is very little interaction at all and most of it is superficial.
So we have a predictable story that requires very little from the player and has a clear optimum path(in episode 2). If this was some new IP you've never heard of would you be happy with what you've been given so far? I sure as hell wouldn't...The name is carrying this "game".
I see no discernable facts in your previous posts. I see opinion stated as fact.
Fact is that Telltale has had a working business model for years off of IPs that very few people know anything about. The Walking Dead is not carrying this release, it's taking it to new levels for sure, but Telltale has always been popular and successful.
Your dislike of the game's linear format aside, the game is doing well. Your voice isn't stopping anything.
I see no discernable facts in your previous posts. I see opinion stated as fact.
Probably because you are blinded by your fanboyism. Thats fine though....Too be expected even. Just means you have nothing to add because you'll accept whatever they shovel you and ignore anything you don't want to hear. Have a nice day.
Umm you kind of backed up my point Aeons. They use IP to get fans from niche markets. The walking dead expanded their customer base because it's a popular IP....not because of any skill they have. Look at how many people come on here saying "I've never bought/heard a telltale game before, but I love the walking dead."
And yes I dislike the games linear and noninteractive nature. I thought that was obvious. I was promised a branching game where my decisions REALLY mattered. I am not seeing it and we are through 2/5ths of the game...
And what is it I supposedly think I'm stopping? The title of the thread is "very disappointed" I felt it a good place to put my disappointment...Hey see how that works? And maybe if I'm REALLY lucky a dev will read this and be like "Hey you know what, he has a point...We are slacking."
Probably because you are blinded by your fanboyism. Thats fine though....Too be expected even. Just means you have nothing to add because you'll accept whatever they shovel you and ignore anything you don't want to hear. Have a nice day.
Umm you kind of backed up my point Aeons. They use IP to get fans from niche markets. The walking dead expanded their customer base because it's a popular IP....not because of any skill they have. Look at how many people come on here saying "I've never bought/heard a telltale game before, but I love the walking dead."
And yes I dislike the games linear and noninteractive nature. I thought that was obvious. I was promised a branching game where my decisions REALLY mattered. I am not seeing it and we are through 2/5ths of the game...
And what is it I supposedly think I'm stopping? The title of the thread is "very disappointed" I felt it a good place to put my disappointment...Hey see how that works? And maybe if I'm REALLY lucky a dev will read this and be like "Hey you know what, he has a point...We are slacking."
LOL at you calling me a "fanboy". This is my first Tell Tale Game, and I have never read the comics nor have I watched the show. As a matter of fact, I never even heard about the game until my husband mentioned it about one month after episode one had been released.
Probably because you are blinded by your fanboyism. Thats fine though....Too be expected even. Just means you have nothing to add because you'll accept whatever they shovel you and ignore anything you don't want to hear. Have a nice day.
No. That's simply not how you communicate on this forum. If you can't accept there are people here who like the game for what it is, there's scarcely any point of being here anyway.
Yup, the Sister called you out for stating opinion as fact. I say there are a lot of people on this forum who would do that and in principle, there's not much wrong with it. But immediately stopping the discussion and dismissing every conflicting opinion as fanboy indoctrination, that just makes a world view born out of empathic sloth.
So in this thread people defending telltale? [...] you are SERIOUSLY saying episode 2 was satifying?
Two questions you did not want an answer to right there. I'll give them anyway.
Yes, a healthy discussion warrants at least two sides. You may choose to place yourself at the extreme end of one of those sides. You may not choose to believe that this is the only valid position in existence.
Yes, a lot of people found episode 2 satisfying. You may choose to not agree. You may not choose to not believe.
They use IP to get fans from niche markets. The walking dead expanded their customer base because it's a popular IP....not because of any skill they have. Look at how many people come on here saying "I've never bought/heard a telltale game before, but I love the walking dead."
What kind of fanboy am I when I say that I found episode 2 to be rather enjoyable - with reservations - yet have decided that the Walking Dead franchise in comics and TV series haven't got any discernible value for me?
And what is it I supposedly think I'm stopping? The title of the thread is "very disappointed" I felt it a good place to put my disappointment...Hey see how that works? And maybe if I'm REALLY lucky a dev will read this and be like "Hey you know what, he has a point...We are slacking."
First and foremost, you're discussing with equals here. Gamers like you. There are some sticky threads where developers might be directly addressed - the Q&A and review threads for example. Apart from that, you should assume that you're having a conversation with "normal" community members. Making broad and loud statements just to be desperately heard primarily by the developers makes no sense on this forum.
Second, your right to complain remains completely intact as long as you do not insult anyone. The derogatory nature of your initial rhetoric questions and the use of the word "fanboy" as an opinion-dismissing label are going in completely the wrong direction.
Third, no game developer in the history of the video game has ever been inspired by destructive criticism.
As far as comics go, I simply have a different taste and primarily look out for completed stories in the first place. My comic/graphic novel heroes are Marjane Satrapi, Juanjo Guarnido, Shaun Tan ("The Arrival"), Alex Alice, Isabel Kreitz, Craig Thomson... just to pick a few from around the globe.
Umm you kind of backed up my point Aeons. They use IP to get fans from niche markets. The walking dead expanded their customer base because it's a popular IP....not because of any skill they have. Look at how many people come on here saying "I've never bought/heard a telltale game before, but I love the walking dead."
What part of saying that they got fans from properties no one knew do you think makes it a niche market that gives them an instant return on their money? If you make a Sam and Max game or a Strongbad game, you really aren't going to appeal to that many people. They're not that popular. Telltale has made Sam and Max into a success by their own skill and improving their system. Play the first season, it handles like crap but is really funny. You have no clue what you're talking about.
I've watched Telltale come up from the Bone series and seen it pull stuff that surprises the hell out of me. How they managed to go from Poker to Walking Dead and ressurecting Monkey Island is beyond me, but they have never rested on an IP. People like you are only attracted to the name of Walking Dead and run off your mouth about things you don't know and make metaphors you can't understand.
If Telltale only used the marketability of IPs to sell games, they wouldn't have gone anywhere.
No. That's simply not how you communicate on this forum. If you can't accept there are people here who like the game for what it is, there's scarcely any point of being here anyway.
Yup, the Sister called you out for stating opinion as fact. I say there are a lot of people on this forum who would do that and in principle, there's not much wrong with it. But immediately stopping the discussion and dismissing every conflicting opinion as fanboy indoctrination, that just makes a world view born out of empathic sloth.
Wow you REALLY need to learn to read. Yes I posted about my negative views on the game and asked if people were seriously happy with what they are passing as a game. Though I clearly stated my opinion and had some fact in there. My post was dismissed completely so I reposted with just my opinion and the facts that I posted. I even specified which were which in my follow up post. I NEVER implied my opinion was fact, but showed where my opinion was supported by fact. No one showed any counter arguement beside attacks and here now even a mod is attacking.
Two questions you did not want an answer to right there. I'll give them anyway.
Yes, a healthy discussion warrants at least two sides. You may choose to place yourself at the extreme end of one of those sides. You may not choose to believe that this is the only valid position in existence.
Yes, a lot of people found episode 2 satisfying. You may choose to not agree. You may not choose to not believe.
Yes a healthy discussion has two sides...A person started this thread to show his disappointment and is then swarmed and told it is pretty much his fault.
What kind of fanboy am I when I say that I found episode 2 to be rather enjoyable - with reservations - yet have decided that the Walking Dead franchise in comics and TV series haven't got any discernible value for me?
Take a guess and say a telltale fanboy?....Hey you asked.
First and foremost, you're discussing with equals here. Gamers like you. There are some sticky threads where developers might be directly addressed - the Q&A and review threads for example. Apart from that, you should assume that you're having a conversation with "normal" community members. Making broad and loud statements just to be desperately heard primarily by the developers makes no sense on this forum.
Am I? Perhaps we should inform the other side of this conversation.
Second, your right to complain remains completely intact as long as you do not insult anyone. The derogatory nature of your initial rhetoric questions and the use of the word "fanboy" as an opinion-dismissing label are going in completely the wrong direction.
I see no point in discussing anything with sisterofshane. She is extremely dismissive of anything that isn't her view. And her view is defending a company that is completely capable of defending itself...Which is a common fanboy activity. It has been that way through out this entire thread so far as I've seen. So yes I dismissed her posts and wrote her off. Or would you rather this turn into a flame war?
Third, no game developer in the history of the video game has ever been inspired by destructive criticism.
This is your opinion...don't try to put it forward as fact. Unless you have the facts to back this up? Really though shame on you accusing me of something and then doing it yourself....I truely expect more from mods.
Honestly though don't try coming down on me like I did something wrong. I'm disappointed in the game and I'm venting in a thread specifically for disappointment in the game. I have insulted NO ONE...unless the people here are super sensitive. Which if that is the case its not my problem and they probably shouldn't be on the internet.
What part of saying that they got fans from properties no one knew do you think makes it a niche market that gives them an instant return on their money? If you make a Sam and Max game or a Strongbad game, you really aren't going to appeal to that many people. They're not that popular. Telltale has made Sam and Max into a success by their own skill and improving their system. Play the first season, it handles like crap but is really funny. You have no clue what you're talking about.
I've watched Telltale come up from the Bone series and seen it pull stuff that surprises the hell out of me. How they managed to go from Poker to Walking Dead and ressurecting Monkey Island is beyond me, but they have never rested on an IP. People like you are only attracted to the name of Walking Dead and run off your mouth about things you don't know and make metaphors you can't understand.
If Telltale only used the marketability of IPs to sell games, they wouldn't have gone anywhere.
Thaaaank you!!!
Someone can actually back up their words with fact instead of just running off at the mouth for the sake of running off at the mouth. Although I'm sure you will get a reply like: "yeah.. Well telltale sucks cause their games are always late" or something similar anyway.
Someone can actually back up their words with fact instead of just running off at the mouth for the sake of running off at the mouth. Although I'm sure you will get a reply like: "yeah.. Well telltale sucks cause their games are always late" or something similar anyway.
No it will get the response that he is delusional if he thinks that the sales numbers from this game are solely because of telltale. I've seen a GOOD number of posts that say they've never heard of or played a telltale game before. For every one person that posts that there are countless others that don't even come to the forums.
Oh and by the way I never mentioned that they were carried by their IP previously, but I did notice that they certainly were niche titles. Walking dead is far more wide spread and is boosting their sales on name recognition alone. Try and deny it....
He is not backing anything up with fact though. He is dismissing this view because he's seen this developer grow blah blah blah. Then he is trying to insult me because I bought this game because I like The walking dead IP and not because I'm a telltale fan. Wonder if a mod will get on him about this? Probably not...
LOL, I'm extremely dismissive for calling you out on your childish rant about dismissing the opinions of people who enjoyed episode two?
Pot, meet kettle.
Wait.. You're wrong here.. It's not just "peoples" opinions, it's *gasp* "fanboys" opinions. Apparently anyone who enjoyed the game and has a differing opinion than him are considered fanboys.
I am so glad I found this out. I really don't want some goof on the internet calling me a *gasp* fanboy.. It's actually my worst nightmare.
Probably because you are blinded by your fanboyism. Thats fine though....Too be expected even. Just means you have nothing to add because you'll accept whatever they shovel you and ignore anything you don't want to hear. Have a nice day.
Umm you kind of backed up my point Aeons. They use IP to get fans from niche markets. The walking dead expanded their customer base because it's a popular IP....not because of any skill they have. Look at how many people come on here saying "I've never bought/heard a telltale game before, but I love the walking dead."
And yes I dislike the games linear and noninteractive nature. I thought that was obvious. I was promised a branching game where my decisions REALLY mattered. I am not seeing it and we are through 2/5ths of the game...
And what is it I supposedly think I'm stopping? The title of the thread is "very disappointed" I felt it a good place to put my disappointment...Hey see how that works? And maybe if I'm REALLY lucky a dev will read this and be like "Hey you know what, he has a point...We are slacking."
And you don't get why you get hostile responses? WOW!
And after your answers to Vainamoinen, I'd say you're lucky to still be around.
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Take a guess and say a telltale fanboy?....Hey you asked.
How convenient for you. A forum full of TWD fanboys AND Telltale fanboys. Are you sure you also read a single other thread in here? A lot of opinions are quite balanced. Get rid of that term, you're embarrassing yourself with it...
All the mods want in here is to make a civilised discussion possible. I totally understand that you're not the only one who needs to be reminded about that once in a while, but please act accordingly nonetheless.
I criticized your dismissive statements towards community members and nothing else.
I was dismissive of ONE person who is obviously not going to even attempt to bring anything to the conversation besides to be dismissive herself and throw insults. As I said that simply would of turned into a flame war....
How convenient for you. A forum full of TWD fanboys AND Telltale fanboys. Are you sure you also read a single other thread in here? A lot of opinions are quite balanced. Get rid of that term, you're embarrassing yourself with it...
Yes how convenient that you set yourself up for a sarcastic remark. I called one person a fanboy instead of some choice words that fit far better. Stop acting like I'm throwing it out every two seconds in every direction.
...and you ARE insulting others with it as well.
Fanboy is only offensive if you take it that way. If you take it that way its not my fault. Though I find it funny you have no problem with the people flat out TRYING to insult me.
All the mods want in here is to make a civilised discussion possible. I totally understand that you're not the only one who needs to be reminded about that once in a while, but please act accordingly nonetheless.
You are not helping make civilized conversation possible here. You are finding imagined slights to come down on me for because you don't like my opinions. In your mind I've come in here insulting everyone, but truely I've only insulted a game that I'm very disappointed with and that is completely on topic for this thread. Think about that again for a second. I'm not running around spamming the forums with my negative views and causing problems. I saw a thread about disappointment in the game and used it to vent my frustration....How horrible right?
If you want to come down on someone pick one of the offenders in this thread.
If you buy the game on steam you have to buy all episodes for 25.00. I also bought this game and it said new episode every month when I bought it. So now they change it up after we bought and paid for it and the deal was 1 a month now its just whenever, maybe by christmas, maybe next year, who knows. Yes I would like my 15.00 back and when they release another maybe I'll buy it, but that is not possible. It is very poor business, they should have all episodes done before any was released since they promised 1 every month I also feel I have been screwed over I am out 15.00, sure maybe they will finish the rest, sometime but not as promised when the sell was made. This is not steams fault, they can do nothing about a release date from tell lies games, opps i mean telltale games. Steam is also stuck, they was told same as us, 1 a month, now their are all these people on steam screwed over by telltale games and steam is taking the heat for it. Maybe the better business place should be notified by all the people wronged, maybe telltale would be forced to refund the 15.00 and some heavy court cost as a lesson. This was the first telltale game I ever bought, and believe me it will be the last, not only would I not recomend buying telltale I will tell everyone about this everytime anyone even mentions video games for some time to come. When one has a bad exp. with a company a person will tell on the average 10 people about it, compared to 1 if it was a good exp. You never promiss what you can not deliver, it makes your words worthless.
I keep seeing the same thing and I keep hearing the same answer.
Its a Scam, burn in hell, I want my cash back..
and people then trying to defend the game because well why?
I preordered the game on steam (!!yay!!) because well I am a huge fanboy of the series.
And the more I read about teltale and the cooperation teltale had with the creator seemed like it would be a great buy.
Now, well I paid 25 euro for a game, that after four... 4 months still has not released half of the content.
And not only that, I was one of the apparently many people that experienced the "save corruption" thing, that resulted in every desision you made earlier was random...
which in the end resulted in me having to delete the saves and the game... and restarting...
Now surely people will say, that I can ask for a refund, now I will apparently risk being banned from steam... and I got to many games on my account to risk that.
So I will take this splendid opportunity to BITCH about a game that in every way is failing what I thought of it would be.
And yes I will NEVER buy a new telltale game before its completely released… and yes I do think I got the right to complain about a product that clearly isn’t what I paid for…
Don’t you complain if you buy some milk and it turns out to be way to old?
So now they change it up after we bought and paid for it and the deal was 1 a month now its just whenever, maybe by christmas, maybe next year, who knows.
They've deviated from their release plan quite a bit, that's true. But nowhere near your exaggeration. The reasonable guess would be episode 4 end September, episode 5 mid November. If TTG's former Season schedules would have been doable, we would've seen the last episode in early to mid September. That's two months more than planned total. A damn pity, but not a broken leg. And certainly not a reason for public outrage of the sue you dimension.
So in this thread people defending telltale? Guess everyone forgot their rage at how they were treated...Thats cool, but you are SERIOUSLY saying episode 2 was satifying?
Merely expressing your opinion included DISMISSING the fact that, despite what you believe, there were people here that enjoyed episode two, myself included. THAT is why I called you out on your logical fallacies.
The reason I come to the forums is not to engage in pissing contests, but rather to foster reasonable debate about a game that I happen to enjoy. The purpose of this thread was not to give any real legitimate complaint to Tell Tale, but rather to inappropriately label the modified release schedule as a "scam". To me, the actual intent was clear when the person qualified in their second post:
I don't care what they said after they got my money.
This was not a thread about fostering debate or offering meaningful criticisms about the game or the company. This was a bash-fest. One in which you joined when you added this statement:
Probably because you are blinded by your fanboyism.
Another misguided blanket statement ("You like the game, so you must be a "fanboy"), bordering on ad hominem. You have yet to prove that I am any of those things - I have said that I have never played a TTG before this, so I couldn't have been a fan of them. I had never heard of the Walking Dead before this game, so I can't be a fan of Kirkman's franchise. Heck, the last movie I watched that had anything to do remotely with Zombies was "Army of Darkness" with Bruce Campbell. I'm not really versed in what many people would say are the "classics". And yet you continue...
And her view is defending a company that is completely capable of defending itself...Which is a common fanboy activity.
Even you realize that the term doesn't fit (albeit only after Vain calls you out on it, twice):
I called one person a fanboy instead of some choice words that fit far better.
To be clear, I'm not offended by the statement, I just believe that it is a very poor way in which to support your argument, and it is actually more likely to make the devs less likely to believe you. You CLEARLY intended to use the term as an insult, and that is why Vain got on your case.
So, what are you looking for? A pat on the back? Congratulations? Well, good for you, you don't like the game. Just don't come on here throwing insults at the people who do.
About the delay...
it's bad, obviously, but every game delays.
the actual problem would be..."the episode is not worth the wait".which(at least for me) is not the case
I know you get angry because of the delays.(I know I do)
but think with me for a second... you in your work(if you work, if not...change it to school)...there are times you just need more time to finish your job. Even if your boss/teacher thinks you should have finished it in half that time.
And I don't know if you ever tried, but making a game is hard...really hard.
you don't have 1 or 2 things to do, you have 20.
And for most of them you need something from other people as well... like the guys that makes the cutscenes, they need (for example) the voices from the record studio, that needs the actors to make the voices, that need their lines from the "script guy". And thats just 1 thing...there is also the characters, their actions during the scene, lip-sync, scenario...
if theres a problem with one thing, everything else goes down with it...
also (this part is just what i think it happens) they have to change the script from time to time to explain something, cut some loose ends in the story, or just change a "bad" scene...
I actually would be scared (and really impressed) if they had released every episode on the schedule...
end note:
You are in your right to be angry because of the delay, but just keep in mind, s* happens, and problems appear out of nowhere sometimes, and there nothing anyone can do about it, all we can do is work our way around it
Honestly, the majority of people I see bitching don't understand a god damn thing about grammar. Regardless, I don't mind Telltale, you're all bitching on the god damn forums like idiots about this company making a great quality game and missing the deadline by a month. Go fuck yourselves, learn to man the hell up. Go bitch to EA, or Activision, the companies that milk franchises dry until there is nothing left, or leave tons of employees out of jobs. It's just infuriating to see such imbeciles ranting about a delay to ensure the quality of a god damn game.
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What's hyperbole?
Is this joke overdone? Ow, okay! I'll stop.
Implying that I would hit you! The audacity, the gall! It's WORSE than assuming that because you were incensed with the late release date for episode two, everyone was! I demand you retract the most overtly slanderous statement I've ever seen in my life, meant to completely defame my character and good name here on these forums! People like you are the reason that Tell Tale Games can't release a game on time!...
...Okay, hyperbole mode done.:p
No I stated facts mixed with my opinion. It is my opinion that the second episode was extremely predictable...Many people share this view. It is fact that the decision percentages were no where near even this time around...There was clearly a "best" path that most people followed. And the game is barely a game...there is very little interaction at all and most of it is superficial.
So we have a predictable story that requires very little from the player and has a clear optimum path(in episode 2). If this was some new IP you've never heard of would you be happy with what you've been given so far? I sure as hell wouldn't...The name is carrying this "game".
Tell me about it. Wasn't there like a 10% of people who shot Jolene, much less then saving Doug?
As I recall that was the only decision in the first episode that was skewed. The devs actually bragged about how close the percentages were and how it showed the decisions were balanced...
I see no discernable facts in your previous posts. I see opinion stated as fact.
Your dislike of the game's linear format aside, the game is doing well. Your voice isn't stopping anything.
Not you, SisterofShane. The guy behind you.
Probably because you are blinded by your fanboyism. Thats fine though....Too be expected even. Just means you have nothing to add because you'll accept whatever they shovel you and ignore anything you don't want to hear. Have a nice day.
Umm you kind of backed up my point Aeons. They use IP to get fans from niche markets. The walking dead expanded their customer base because it's a popular IP....not because of any skill they have. Look at how many people come on here saying "I've never bought/heard a telltale game before, but I love the walking dead."
And yes I dislike the games linear and noninteractive nature. I thought that was obvious. I was promised a branching game where my decisions REALLY mattered. I am not seeing it and we are through 2/5ths of the game...
And what is it I supposedly think I'm stopping? The title of the thread is "very disappointed" I felt it a good place to put my disappointment...Hey see how that works? And maybe if I'm REALLY lucky a dev will read this and be like "Hey you know what, he has a point...We are slacking."
LOL at you calling me a "fanboy". This is my first Tell Tale Game, and I have never read the comics nor have I watched the show. As a matter of fact, I never even heard about the game until my husband mentioned it about one month after episode one had been released.
No. That's simply not how you communicate on this forum. If you can't accept there are people here who like the game for what it is, there's scarcely any point of being here anyway.
Yup, the Sister called you out for stating opinion as fact. I say there are a lot of people on this forum who would do that and in principle, there's not much wrong with it. But immediately stopping the discussion and dismissing every conflicting opinion as fanboy indoctrination, that just makes a world view born out of empathic sloth.
Two questions you did not want an answer to right there. I'll give them anyway.
Yes, a healthy discussion warrants at least two sides. You may choose to place yourself at the extreme end of one of those sides. You may not choose to believe that this is the only valid position in existence.
Yes, a lot of people found episode 2 satisfying. You may choose to not agree. You may not choose to not believe.
What kind of fanboy am I when I say that I found episode 2 to be rather enjoyable - with reservations - yet have decided that the Walking Dead franchise in comics and TV series haven't got any discernible value for me?
First and foremost, you're discussing with equals here. Gamers like you. There are some sticky threads where developers might be directly addressed - the Q&A and review threads for example. Apart from that, you should assume that you're having a conversation with "normal" community members. Making broad and loud statements just to be desperately heard primarily by the developers makes no sense on this forum.
Second, your right to complain remains completely intact as long as you do not insult anyone. The derogatory nature of your initial rhetoric questions and the use of the word "fanboy" as an opinion-dismissing label are going in completely the wrong direction.
Third, no game developer in the history of the video game has ever been inspired by destructive criticism.
Are you serious brah? The comic was freakin epic!
That sir is the only reason I bought (pre-ordered) the game.
Pretty much!
As far as comics go, I simply have a different taste and primarily look out for completed stories in the first place. My comic/graphic novel heroes are Marjane Satrapi, Juanjo Guarnido, Shaun Tan ("The Arrival"), Alex Alice, Isabel Kreitz, Craig Thomson... just to pick a few from around the globe.
maaaan. To each his own for sure. But you are missing out.
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As a matter of fact, I didn't!
Carefully went through 1,088 pages before my opinion was sound.
I'm sure the developers are waiting to hear from you before they go any further.
Wow, then I must ask. Why didn't you like the comic?
What part of saying that they got fans from properties no one knew do you think makes it a niche market that gives them an instant return on their money? If you make a Sam and Max game or a Strongbad game, you really aren't going to appeal to that many people. They're not that popular. Telltale has made Sam and Max into a success by their own skill and improving their system. Play the first season, it handles like crap but is really funny. You have no clue what you're talking about.
I've watched Telltale come up from the Bone series and seen it pull stuff that surprises the hell out of me. How they managed to go from Poker to Walking Dead and ressurecting Monkey Island is beyond me, but they have never rested on an IP. People like you are only attracted to the name of Walking Dead and run off your mouth about things you don't know and make metaphors you can't understand.
If Telltale only used the marketability of IPs to sell games, they wouldn't have gone anywhere.
I am interested that is all, if you find the right place, speak your piece and I'll read it.
Wow you REALLY need to learn to read. Yes I posted about my negative views on the game and asked if people were seriously happy with what they are passing as a game. Though I clearly stated my opinion and had some fact in there. My post was dismissed completely so I reposted with just my opinion and the facts that I posted. I even specified which were which in my follow up post. I NEVER implied my opinion was fact, but showed where my opinion was supported by fact. No one showed any counter arguement beside attacks and here now even a mod is attacking.
Yes a healthy discussion has two sides...A person started this thread to show his disappointment and is then swarmed and told it is pretty much his fault.
Take a guess and say a telltale fanboy?....Hey you asked.
Am I? Perhaps we should inform the other side of this conversation.
I see no point in discussing anything with sisterofshane. She is extremely dismissive of anything that isn't her view. And her view is defending a company that is completely capable of defending itself...Which is a common fanboy activity. It has been that way through out this entire thread so far as I've seen. So yes I dismissed her posts and wrote her off. Or would you rather this turn into a flame war?
This is your opinion...don't try to put it forward as fact. Unless you have the facts to back this up? Really though shame on you accusing me of something and then doing it yourself....I truely expect more from mods.
Honestly though don't try coming down on me like I did something wrong. I'm disappointed in the game and I'm venting in a thread specifically for disappointment in the game. I have insulted NO ONE...unless the people here are super sensitive. Which if that is the case its not my problem and they probably shouldn't be on the internet.
Thaaaank you!!!
Someone can actually back up their words with fact instead of just running off at the mouth for the sake of running off at the mouth. Although I'm sure you will get a reply like: "yeah.. Well telltale sucks cause their games are always late" or something similar anyway.
No it will get the response that he is delusional if he thinks that the sales numbers from this game are solely because of telltale. I've seen a GOOD number of posts that say they've never heard of or played a telltale game before. For every one person that posts that there are countless others that don't even come to the forums.
Oh and by the way I never mentioned that they were carried by their IP previously, but I did notice that they certainly were niche titles. Walking dead is far more wide spread and is boosting their sales on name recognition alone. Try and deny it....
He is not backing anything up with fact though. He is dismissing this view because he's seen this developer grow blah blah blah. Then he is trying to insult me because I bought this game because I like The walking dead IP and not because I'm a telltale fan. Wonder if a mod will get on him about this? Probably not...
Pot, meet kettle.
Wait.. You're wrong here.. It's not just "peoples" opinions, it's *gasp* "fanboys" opinions. Apparently anyone who enjoyed the game and has a differing opinion than him are considered fanboys.
I am so glad I found this out. I really don't want some goof on the internet calling me a *gasp* fanboy.. It's actually my worst nightmare.
And after your answers to Vainamoinen, I'd say you're lucky to still be around.
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I criticized your dismissive statements towards community members and nothing else.
How convenient for you. A forum full of TWD fanboys AND Telltale fanboys. Are you sure you also read a single other thread in here? A lot of opinions are quite balanced. Get rid of that term, you're embarrassing yourself with it...
...and you ARE insulting others with it as well.
All the mods want in here is to make a civilised discussion possible. I totally understand that you're not the only one who needs to be reminded about that once in a while, but please act accordingly nonetheless.
I was dismissive of ONE person who is obviously not going to even attempt to bring anything to the conversation besides to be dismissive herself and throw insults. As I said that simply would of turned into a flame war....
Yes how convenient that you set yourself up for a sarcastic remark. I called one person a fanboy instead of some choice words that fit far better. Stop acting like I'm throwing it out every two seconds in every direction.
Fanboy is only offensive if you take it that way. If you take it that way its not my fault. Though I find it funny you have no problem with the people flat out TRYING to insult me.
You are not helping make civilized conversation possible here. You are finding imagined slights to come down on me for because you don't like my opinions. In your mind I've come in here insulting everyone, but truely I've only insulted a game that I'm very disappointed with and that is completely on topic for this thread. Think about that again for a second. I'm not running around spamming the forums with my negative views and causing problems. I saw a thread about disappointment in the game and used it to vent my frustration....How horrible right?
If you want to come down on someone pick one of the offenders in this thread.
Its a Scam, burn in hell, I want my cash back..
and people then trying to defend the game because well why?
I preordered the game on steam (!!yay!!) because well I am a huge fanboy of the series.
And the more I read about teltale and the cooperation teltale had with the creator seemed like it would be a great buy.
Now, well I paid 25 euro for a game, that after four... 4 months still has not released half of the content.
And not only that, I was one of the apparently many people that experienced the "save corruption" thing, that resulted in every desision you made earlier was random...
which in the end resulted in me having to delete the saves and the game... and restarting...
Now surely people will say, that I can ask for a refund, now I will apparently risk being banned from steam... and I got to many games on my account to risk that.
So I will take this splendid opportunity to BITCH about a game that in every way is failing what I thought of it would be.
And yes I will NEVER buy a new telltale game before its completely released… and yes I do think I got the right to complain about a product that clearly isn’t what I paid for…
Don’t you complain if you buy some milk and it turns out to be way to old?
They've deviated from their release plan quite a bit, that's true. But nowhere near your exaggeration. The reasonable guess would be episode 4 end September, episode 5 mid November. If TTG's former Season schedules would have been doable, we would've seen the last episode in early to mid September. That's two months more than planned total. A damn pity, but not a broken leg. And certainly not a reason for public outrage of the sue you dimension.
Merely expressing your opinion included DISMISSING the fact that, despite what you believe, there were people here that enjoyed episode two, myself included. THAT is why I called you out on your logical fallacies.
The reason I come to the forums is not to engage in pissing contests, but rather to foster reasonable debate about a game that I happen to enjoy. The purpose of this thread was not to give any real legitimate complaint to Tell Tale, but rather to inappropriately label the modified release schedule as a "scam". To me, the actual intent was clear when the person qualified in their second post:
This was not a thread about fostering debate or offering meaningful criticisms about the game or the company. This was a bash-fest. One in which you joined when you added this statement:
Another misguided blanket statement ("You like the game, so you must be a "fanboy"), bordering on ad hominem. You have yet to prove that I am any of those things - I have said that I have never played a TTG before this, so I couldn't have been a fan of them. I had never heard of the Walking Dead before this game, so I can't be a fan of Kirkman's franchise. Heck, the last movie I watched that had anything to do remotely with Zombies was "Army of Darkness" with Bruce Campbell. I'm not really versed in what many people would say are the "classics". And yet you continue...
Even you realize that the term doesn't fit (albeit only after Vain calls you out on it, twice):
To be clear, I'm not offended by the statement, I just believe that it is a very poor way in which to support your argument, and it is actually more likely to make the devs less likely to believe you. You CLEARLY intended to use the term as an insult, and that is why Vain got on your case.
So, what are you looking for? A pat on the back? Congratulations? Well, good for you, you don't like the game. Just don't come on here throwing insults at the people who do.
it's bad, obviously, but every game delays.
the actual problem would be..."the episode is not worth the wait".which(at least for me) is not the case
I know you get angry because of the delays.(I know I do)
but think with me for a second... you in your work(if you work, if not...change it to school)...there are times you just need more time to finish your job. Even if your boss/teacher thinks you should have finished it in half that time.
And I don't know if you ever tried, but making a game is hard...really hard.
you don't have 1 or 2 things to do, you have 20.
And for most of them you need something from other people as well... like the guys that makes the cutscenes, they need (for example) the voices from the record studio, that needs the actors to make the voices, that need their lines from the "script guy". And thats just 1 thing...there is also the characters, their actions during the scene, lip-sync, scenario...
if theres a problem with one thing, everything else goes down with it...
also (this part is just what i think it happens) they have to change the script from time to time to explain something, cut some loose ends in the story, or just change a "bad" scene...
I actually would be scared (and really impressed) if they had released every episode on the schedule...
end note:
You are in your right to be angry because of the delay, but just keep in mind, s* happens, and problems appear out of nowhere sometimes, and there nothing anyone can do about it, all we can do is work our way around it
What? Thesaurus?
Man shoot, Sister is a smart and logical women, if you trying to go at her you gotta go harder than that.