Lilly crossed a sanity line. You don't get to take someone's life just because they told you off and you have empty suspicions. Sorry, she has to make her journey alone now. If they let me get rid of Kenny over the salt lick block incident I may have as well. Let me do CPR for like 20 more seconds before you get all head crushy Kenny. ... aww who can stay mad at that well maintained mustache. Get over here yah scamp you.
to be fair she wasent aiming for carley/doug she was aiming for ben, and it was him so it was a good hunch.
In my Carley playthrough, she didn't aim for Ben. She just took Carley out, pointblank. With the circumstances of the situation, I can understand what mindset she was playing on, and at that time (Since no one knew it was Ben) I might have forgiven her sometime down the road.
If she does come back, though, she better apologize with a hot bath, a t-bone steak (Medium rare) and a bottle of booze. That's a good start. :P
If you left her outside the Rv then you see her run off
If you kept her either way she takes the RV.
So she is most likely still alive
What is your guys idea of if she will be back.
Well, we know what ultimately happens due to the comics... I have a small idea that she may come back, but since she has a novel coming out soon, her character may be fully explored at this point.
I hope not. Like I said before tt has brilliantly kept it a realistic story without eliminating plot twists. I know lilly knows where we were going to go (savanah) but its a huge stretch if she hapoens to find us randomly. In the show, comics and this far in the game there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists which is why i dont want/ I dont think well see lilly again (or for that matter carly) i would slightly lose respect if we do
If she killed Ben instead of Carley and she runs off and she goes back, I might give her a second chance. But because she killed Carley, the only thing she'd be seeing is a gun on her head when she gets back
I liked her but she took the RV without knowing if we would make it without transporation. For me, she just left us behind. I'll not integrate her in the group again and if I am forced to I would abandoned or kill her at the first posibillity.
She won't come for sure. Most of you want to kill her and some of us would accept her back. Still she needs to be alive in order to her Woodbury stuff.
She might make a cameo of some sort though.
I hope not. Like I said before tt has brilliantly kept it a realistic story without eliminating plot twists. I know lilly knows where we were going to go (savanah) but its a huge stretch if she hapoens to find us randomly. In the show, comics and this far in the game there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists which is why i dont want/ I dont think well see lilly again (or for that matter carly) i would slightly lose respect if we do
Of course we'll see her again. Look, I agree with you that TWD - in whichever medium - is based more solidly in realism than most other zombapocalypse stories out there, but it *is* still a story, and will therefore never be 100% realistic - and, IMO, shouldn't be. It's a work of art: you have to allow it some licence.
(Spoilers for Ep 3 ahead)
This game is full of literary tropes that abound in most fiction, which you'd never see in "real life". The most common technique is ironic foreshadowing: e.g. Duck finally gets his moment to shine with the whole Robin detective thing, then promptly dies; Clementine learns how to use a gun, and is then paralysed by fear when she's called upon to do so (we all knew she'd end up being faced with this); and on multiple occasions, we're told "X will remember that", only for "X" to die two minutes later. Like any work of art, it's entirely designed to provoke a reaction.
So, does that all fit your definition of "realistic?" It shouldn't! If we're being ultra-realistic, I don't think quite as many people would have died by now. The group would either all have died of starvation/dehydration long ago, or else they'd be living for months on end without anything interesting happening (they are, after all, in the middle of nowhere). The mundanities and minutiae of real life are thus ignored. Consider this: why doesn't anyone ever go to the toilet? Why don't we ever see anyone eating or sleeping? Wouldn't that make it even more realistic? The answer is that this is a story. Stories are crafted and there's nothing wrong with that; they sometimes deliberately approximate realism, but they can never emulate it.
Lily will be back. It's the "Chekov's gun" principle: "If, in the first act, you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise, don't put it there."
Well, I don't think she survived her part in the comics because it looks pretty bleak for her and the few Woodbury soldiers still alive. I'd be shocked if she survived that, and even more shocked that she would come back to us, because she sure as hell won't survive seeing my Lee again.
I honestly don't think she will. She has run her course in the video game.
The game, comic, and novel series are all set in the same universe. Separate from the TV show.
Lilly is in the Comic. She is part of the Governor's group.
The 2nd novel "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury" will supposedly be about Lilly and how she becomes part of his group.
I have a feeling the book may even go as far to open up with Lilly being on her own on Foot or in a RV, depending one which scenario they choose from the game.
Of course we'll see her again. Look, I agree with you that TWD - in whichever medium - is based more solidly in realism than most other zombapocalypse stories out there, but it *is* still a story, and will therefore never be 100% realistic - and, IMO, shouldn't be. It's a work of art: you have to allow it some licence.
(Spoilers for Ep 3 ahead)
This game is full of literary tropes that abound in most fiction, which you'd never see in "real life". The most common technique is ironic foreshadowing: e.g. Duck finally gets his moment to shine with the whole Robin detective thing, then promptly dies; Clementine learns how to use a gun, and is then paralysed by fear when she's called upon to do so (we all knew she'd end up being faced with this); and on multiple occasions, we're told "X will remember that", only for "X" to die two minutes later. Like any work of art, it's entirely designed to provoke a reaction.
So, does that all fit your definition of "realistic?" It shouldn't! If we're being ultra-realistic, I don't think quite as many people would have died by now. The group would either all have died of starvation/dehydration long ago, or else they'd be living for months on end without anything interesting happening (they are, after all, in the middle of nowhere). The mundanities and minutiae of real life are thus ignored. Consider this: why doesn't anyone ever go to the toilet? Why don't we ever see anyone eating or sleeping? Wouldn't that make it even more realistic? The answer is that this is a story. Stories are crafted and there's nothing wrong with that; they sometimes deliberately approximate realism, but they can never emulate it.
Lily will be back. It's the "Chekov's gun" principle: "If, in the first act, you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise, don't put it there."
I get the foreshadowing but even that has been used at a modest pace. The only thing I can agree with you is with Clem and knowing she would have to use the gun almost immediately. As for the rest of your post and examples you are missing my point!
Well firstly the storyline is pretty realistic given a zombie apocalypse... there would be bandits, there would be mutiny, and there would be of course walkers. I dont intend it to be "ultra realistic", but the story is pretty realistic and that makes the game that much better. Maybe it wouldnt happen at that pace but the events that happen, could happen in reality. Where as we dont see people eating, sleeping, going to the bathroom, in all cases they have been mentioned or heard of. For example, you have to hand out food in episode 2 and basically every time you leave the motel it is for food, they each have their own rooms in the motel which impies they sleep, and Clem asks lee to go to the bathroom in episode 1 (weak example but still)
What I am trying to say is that given the unrealistic occurence that a zombie apocalypse does happen the events in the story line have been realistic without plot twists that have detracted the realism from it. With that being said I hope Lilly, Carly, Duck, Katjaa dont come back alive or as walkers because even though its a story, its a story with realistic expectations.
Also I dont read the comics but as from what I hear and watching the show, and thus far in the game, there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists. The closest thing I can think of is when the girl in the show (i forgot her name) comes through the barn as a walker...thats it. I think The walking dead prides themselves on keeping it realistic. And they have kept their word and it doesnt look like its changing. Lilly is gone for good.
Like I said in a other thread we will see her in the last episode nearly the end and helping Lee & Clem by giving them "Mercy" or something along the lines.
Like I said in a other thread we will see her in the last episode nearly the end and helping Lee & Clem by giving them "Mercy" or something along the lines.
I'm assuming you have that theory based off the trophy/achievement called "Mercy."
I have a feeling it may have something to do with Clem's Mom. Because the next trophy/achievement after that is "The March House." Which is where Clem said her parents would be.
The last 2 trophies/achievements for the game are called "Stay Close to Me" and "What Remains." Both are for completing Chapter 7 and the final episode.
I have a feeling that Lee and Clem will be on their own by the time this is all over.
You forgot after "The Marsh House" the "What's in the bag?" achievement... when Lilly does not comeback in this season then I wonder if we will see her in Season 2. I mean Lilly got the RV and no matter what she survived that ZA
when Lilly does not comeback in this season then I wonder if we will see her in Season 2. I mean Lilly got the RV and no matter what she survived that ZA
I doubt we will see Lily come back in the second season of the video game.
I have a feeling where her story ends in episode 3, will continue on in
"The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury." In which she is supposed to be the main protagonist.
She is part of the comic series (issues #46 thru #48.); and the TellTale game, the comic, and the novels are all part of the same TWD universe.
Why is her dad origin different in twd wiki? http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Everett_Ray_Caul
I can't wait for "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury."
She's such an interesting character and I would gladly read/play/see more of her.
i think she takes the RV even if you leave her on the side of the road she survives long enough to follow the road and get it once the group has left with the train, i think she will be seen again but maybe not in a way we can reconcile with her or kill her
in my play through; she killed Doug in attempt to kill Ben, so I left her on the side of the road; in the cut scene, in shows a few zombies coming towards her. I kinda doubt she's coming back o.< I used to really respect her; even though she was right about Ben taking the supplies, she shouldn't have tried to kill him, he is basically just a kid >.<
Why is her dad origin different in twd wiki? http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Everett_Ray_Caul
I can't wait for "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury."
She's such an interesting character and I would gladly read/play/see more of her.
No idea.
RK has said that the Comic/Novels/and TellTale game are all part of the same TWD universe. And the Lilly in the TellTale game IS the same Lilly from the comic (she only appeared in 3 issues, but has a MAJOR role in those 3 issues.)
I'm hoping IF she is in fact the same Lilly that is supposed to be the main character of the 2nd novel, that this question is answered. (RK has said "it may or may not be the same Lilly." But he is a very secretive guy.)
But seeing as Lilly teams up with the Governor's group. And the title of the book is "The Road the Woodbury" (Woodbury being his camp.)
I can't help but think it is the same Lilly.
I'm positive it's the same Lilly, it's just probably her dad's origin that is messed up, which will be a huge letdown. I'm sure that it wouldn't be difficult to mention that her father was murdered by a douchebag called Kenny
I'm positive it's the same Lilly, it's just probably her dad's origin that is messed up, which will be a huge letdown. I'm sure that it wouldn't be difficult to mention that her father was murdered by a douchebag called Kenny
I'm so eager to read that book
Maybe her Dad's origin isn't messed up like we think. We see her Dad's name is Larry in the TellTale game, yet she tells others it was "Everett" in the comic.
Hopefully the novel will give more insight into this, her state of mind, et cetera.
Maybe she lied in the comic.
Would be awesome if the novel picks up with her being solo on foot (or in an RV) Depending on what scenario they use after she left Lee's group in the video game. I too can't wait to read it!
RK has said that the Comic/Novels/and TellTale game are all part of the same TWD universe. And the Lilly in the TellTale game IS the same Lilly from the comic (she only appeared in 3 issues, but has a MAJOR role in those 3 issues.)
It was ONE issue and she doesn't have a major role in it, but a major impact on Rick.
Maybe her Dad's origin isn't messed up like we think. We see her Dad's name is Larry in the TellTale game, yet she tells others it was "Everett" in the comic.
Hopefully the novel will give more insight into this, her state of mind, et cetera.
Maybe she lied in the comic.
Would be awesome if the novel picks up with her being solo on foot (or in an RV) Depending on what scenario they use after she left Lee's group in the video game. I too can't wait to read it!
Totally and seeing Lilly running desperately on the cover of the book... I love it.. looks so... touching
I'm glad there are other Lilly fans around :P
About her father... my problem is that it's not only his name that is different but his origin story is different, at least according to wiki. I hope they will find a way to tie it nicely.
Don't think we'll be seeing Lilly again in the game, as she's destined to go to Woodbury and do her thang. Plus, in her last comic appearance the situation is pretty bad for her and the few Woodbury survivors with her, so it's a reasonable guess to say that she died there. Of course, since Kirkman said he wouldn't develop her character more, I think that means TellTale could have her survive or something.
I hope she doesn't see us again, because she'll be looking at me through the scope of a rifle.
I registered simply to voice one small objection, not that anyone will care.
I played episode 1 at a friend's house and instantly fell in love with Lilly. She's a hard woman with just enough heart to survive in this zombie world. I bought the game to do more. Episode 2 was great, it taught me that this hard woman could understand, and admit her own mistakes, but still remain tough. She reminded me so much of someone I loved very much.
Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative. Though I know I can't go back in time and unspend money I've already spent, I bought this series for her. Now she's gone, we're left with generic rude people, and I can't find a reason to care about the rest of the story. In some small way I envy people who own a 360 and could buy individual episodes. I would not buy Episodes 4 and 5 if I had the choice.
As it is, I am uninstalling the game and will not bother even downloading Episodes 4 and 5. There's nothing for me in them.
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I can. Kenny made Lily cross that sanity line. Not only he killed her dad but he kept pushing her to her limits. So who's to blame really?
In my Carley playthrough, she didn't aim for Ben. She just took Carley out, pointblank. With the circumstances of the situation, I can understand what mindset she was playing on, and at that time (Since no one knew it was Ben) I might have forgiven her sometime down the road.
If she does come back, though, she better apologize with a hot bath, a t-bone steak (Medium rare) and a bottle of booze.
Certainly not the mustache.
If you kept her either way she takes the RV.
So she is most likely still alive
What is your guys idea of if she will be back.
She might make a cameo of some sort though.
Of course we'll see her again. Look, I agree with you that TWD - in whichever medium - is based more solidly in realism than most other zombapocalypse stories out there, but it *is* still a story, and will therefore never be 100% realistic - and, IMO, shouldn't be. It's a work of art: you have to allow it some licence.
(Spoilers for Ep 3 ahead)
This game is full of literary tropes that abound in most fiction, which you'd never see in "real life". The most common technique is ironic foreshadowing: e.g. Duck finally gets his moment to shine with the whole Robin detective thing, then promptly dies; Clementine learns how to use a gun, and is then paralysed by fear when she's called upon to do so (we all knew she'd end up being faced with this); and on multiple occasions, we're told "X will remember that", only for "X" to die two minutes later. Like any work of art, it's entirely designed to provoke a reaction.
So, does that all fit your definition of "realistic?" It shouldn't! If we're being ultra-realistic, I don't think quite as many people would have died by now. The group would either all have died of starvation/dehydration long ago, or else they'd be living for months on end without anything interesting happening (they are, after all, in the middle of nowhere). The mundanities and minutiae of real life are thus ignored. Consider this: why doesn't anyone ever go to the toilet? Why don't we ever see anyone eating or sleeping? Wouldn't that make it even more realistic? The answer is that this is a story. Stories are crafted and there's nothing wrong with that; they sometimes deliberately approximate realism, but they can never emulate it.
Lily will be back. It's the "Chekov's gun" principle: "If, in the first act, you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise, don't put it there."
The game, comic, and novel series are all set in the same universe. Separate from the TV show.
Lilly is in the Comic. She is part of the Governor's group.
The 2nd novel "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury" will supposedly be about Lilly and how she becomes part of his group.
I have a feeling the book may even go as far to open up with Lilly being on her own on Foot or in a RV, depending one which scenario they choose from the game.
I get the foreshadowing but even that has been used at a modest pace. The only thing I can agree with you is with Clem and knowing she would have to use the gun almost immediately. As for the rest of your post and examples you are missing my point!
Well firstly the storyline is pretty realistic given a zombie apocalypse... there would be bandits, there would be mutiny, and there would be of course walkers. I dont intend it to be "ultra realistic", but the story is pretty realistic and that makes the game that much better. Maybe it wouldnt happen at that pace but the events that happen, could happen in reality. Where as we dont see people eating, sleeping, going to the bathroom, in all cases they have been mentioned or heard of. For example, you have to hand out food in episode 2 and basically every time you leave the motel it is for food, they each have their own rooms in the motel which impies they sleep, and Clem asks lee to go to the bathroom in episode 1 (weak example but still)
What I am trying to say is that given the unrealistic occurence that a zombie apocalypse does happen the events in the story line have been realistic without plot twists that have detracted the realism from it. With that being said I hope Lilly, Carly, Duck, Katjaa dont come back alive or as walkers because even though its a story, its a story with realistic expectations.
Also I dont read the comics but as from what I hear and watching the show, and thus far in the game, there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists. The closest thing I can think of is when the girl in the show (i forgot her name) comes through the barn as a walker...thats it. I think The walking dead prides themselves on keeping it realistic. And they have kept their word and it doesnt look like its changing. Lilly is gone for good.
Not only that but she's apparently the main protagonist of this book
http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Road-Woodbury/dp/0312547749/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y
which I just can't wait to read!
I'm assuming you have that theory based off the trophy/achievement called "Mercy."
I have a feeling it may have something to do with Clem's Mom. Because the next trophy/achievement after that is "The March House." Which is where Clem said her parents would be.
The last 2 trophies/achievements for the game are called "Stay Close to Me" and "What Remains." Both are for completing Chapter 7 and the final episode.
I have a feeling that Lee and Clem will be on their own by the time this is all over.
I doubt we will see Lily come back in the second season of the video game.
I have a feeling where her story ends in episode 3, will continue on in
"The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury." In which she is supposed to be the main protagonist.
She is part of the comic series (issues #46 thru #48.); and the TellTale game, the comic, and the novels are all part of the same TWD universe.
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Everett_Ray_Caul
I can't wait for "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury."
She's such an interesting character and I would gladly read/play/see more of her.
Oh, sorry, I'm thinking of the wrong episode.
No idea.
RK has said that the Comic/Novels/and TellTale game are all part of the same TWD universe. And the Lilly in the TellTale game IS the same Lilly from the comic (she only appeared in 3 issues, but has a MAJOR role in those 3 issues.)
I'm hoping IF she is in fact the same Lilly that is supposed to be the main character of the 2nd novel, that this question is answered. (RK has said "it may or may not be the same Lilly." But he is a very secretive guy.)
But seeing as Lilly teams up with the Governor's group. And the title of the book is "The Road the Woodbury" (Woodbury being his camp.)
I can't help but think it is the same Lilly.
I'm so eager to read that book
Maybe her Dad's origin isn't messed up like we think. We see her Dad's name is Larry in the TellTale game, yet she tells others it was "Everett" in the comic.
Hopefully the novel will give more insight into this, her state of mind, et cetera.
Maybe she lied in the comic.
Would be awesome if the novel picks up with her being solo on foot (or in an RV) Depending on what scenario they use after she left Lee's group in the video game. I too can't wait to read it!
It was ONE issue and she doesn't have a major role in it, but a major impact on Rick.
Lee's Wife's head/Carley's head.
Totally and seeing Lilly running desperately on the cover of the book... I love it.. looks so... touching
I'm glad there are other Lilly fans around :P
About her father... my problem is that it's not only his name that is different but his origin story is different, at least according to wiki. I hope they will find a way to tie it nicely.
I hope she doesn't see us again, because she'll be looking at me through the scope of a rifle.
I played episode 1 at a friend's house and instantly fell in love with Lilly. She's a hard woman with just enough heart to survive in this zombie world. I bought the game to do more. Episode 2 was great, it taught me that this hard woman could understand, and admit her own mistakes, but still remain tough. She reminded me so much of someone I loved very much.
Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative. Though I know I can't go back in time and unspend money I've already spent, I bought this series for her. Now she's gone, we're left with generic rude people, and I can't find a reason to care about the rest of the story. In some small way I envy people who own a 360 and could buy individual episodes. I would not buy Episodes 4 and 5 if I had the choice.
As it is, I am uninstalling the game and will not bother even downloading Episodes 4 and 5. There's nothing for me in them.