[SPOILERS]Lilly to return? (merged threads)

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  • edited September 2012
    The worst offense? The game would not allow me to instantly kill the traitor once the traitor fessed up to me. What kind of story is this?
  • edited September 2012
    Well she was under a lot of stress from leading her own group, then her father gets more and more sick so she gets more worried, then her father is murdered BY a(and possibly 2) member(s) of her group, and she snaps. Makes perfect sense to me.

    Plus she had to leave anyway, she is a character from the comic series and has a role to fufill there anyway. It was predicted at the start she would hate the group and leave.
  • edited September 2012
    Buy the book:

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    I understand Lilly is the protagonist.
  • edited September 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    Well she was under a lot of stress from leading her own group, then her father gets more and more sick so she gets more worried, then her father is murdered BY a(and possibly 2) member(s) of her group, and she snaps. Makes perfect sense to me.

    Plus she had to leave anyway, she is a character from the comic series and has a role to fufill there anyway. It was predicted at the start she would hate the group and leave.

    I know nothing about this series. I went into this fresh and new. You saw her through different eyes than I did. I also do not understand why killing Kenny on the spot was not an option. Kenny murdered a living human being. No matter what choices you make, Larry never tries to kill Duck. Though he talked a big game, he waited to see if there was an actual bite.

    Kenny flatout murdered.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    Buy the book:

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    I understand Lilly is the protagonist.

    I did some research. Not sure it's the same Lilly. Everett and Larry aren't even remotely similar names.
  • edited September 2012
    Wow, you liked Lilly from the beginning...that's great. I said some bad things to her that I wish now I could take back when we first met at the pharmacy (I know I can just replay the game but I don't do that) and wish that I had done more to support her. I only started to side with her when Kenny said I could not be neutral and must choose a side. I did and have no regrets as Lilly became my best friend on par with Carley.

    Lilly will be sorely missed. Maybe lightning can strike twice and TTG will introduce a character that we will like as much as Lilly in e4 or e5 or even next season.

    Welcome to the forum by the way.
  • edited September 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    Wow, you liked Lilly from the beginning...that's great. I said some bad things to her that I wish now I could take back when we first met at the pharmacy (I know I can just replay the game but I don't do that) and wish that I had done more to support her. I only started to side with her when Kenny said I could not be neutral and must choose a side. I did and have no regrets as Lilly became my best friend on par with Carley.

    Lilly will be sorely missed. Maybe lightning can strike twice and TTG will introduce a character that we will like as much as Lilly in e4 or e5 or even next season.

    Welcome to the forum by the way.

    Thanks. Not likely to stay long.

    I won't be downloading episodes 4 or 5.
  • edited September 2012
    And I obviously won't be buying any "Next Season" either.
  • edited September 2012
    I did some research. Not sure it's the same Lilly. Everett and Larry aren't even remotely similar names.

    I've got the book on preorder. Check back in October and I'll let you know if this is the same Lilly. I have my doubts as well but if it is....I want to read more (even if it's not should be a good story).
  • edited September 2012
    And I obviously won't be buying any "Next Season" either.

    Hey, don't do it.
    Maybe Lilly can come back.......or not....who knows?
  • edited September 2012
    I know nothing about this series. I went into this fresh and new. You saw her through different eyes than I did. I also do not understand why killing Kenny on the spot was not an option. Kenny murdered a living human being. No matter what choices you make, Larry never tries to kill Duck. Though he talked a big game, he waited to see if there was an actual bite.

    Kenny flatout murdered.

    Kenny protected his own. They didn't know how fast people turn--and there's no way you could come back from cardiac arrest like that WITHOUT some medical equipment. He did exactly what I would have done in that situation, if it meant making sure the kids were safe.
  • edited September 2012
    I registered simply to voice one small objection, not that anyone will care.

    I played episode 1 at a friend's house and instantly fell in love with Lilly. She's a hard woman with just enough heart to survive in this zombie world. I bought the game to do more. Episode 2 was great, it taught me that this hard woman could understand, and admit her own mistakes, but still remain tough. She reminded me so much of someone I loved very much.

    Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative. Though I know I can't go back in time and unspend money I've already spent, I bought this series for her. Now she's gone, we're left with generic rude people, and I can't find a reason to care about the rest of the story. In some small way I envy people who own a 360 and could buy individual episodes. I would not buy Episodes 4 and 5 if I had the choice.

    As it is, I am uninstalling the game and will not bother even downloading Episodes 4 and 5. There's nothing for me in them.

    Geez, grow up dude. The game is rated M for a reason. Stop acting like a baby because a video game character you liked left. I hope you see how utterly rediculous that sounds.

    Btw I have no clue what you are talking about, the writing and lilly were excelently developed and its obvious why she lost control. No point to just create an account to hate a game for a very stupid reason. If the game didnt work, wont load, didnt save, etc than you might be able to complain but because tt wrote it the way you didnt dont get your panties in a bunch.
  • edited September 2012
    kirby18 wrote: »
    Geez, grow up dude. The game is rated M for a reason. Stop acting like a baby because a video game character you liked left. I hope you see how utterly rediculous that sounds.

    Btw I have no clue what you are talking about, the writing and lilly were excelently developed and its obvious why she lost control. No point to just create an account to hate a game for a very stupid reason. If the game didnt work, wont load, didnt save, etc than you might be able to complain but because tt wrote it the way you didnt dont get your panties in a bunch.

    You reason and discuss like an eleven year old. You also seem to have no idea what mature and intelligent story-boarding is about. I'll be looking for an ignore feature in case I do stick around here a bit.
  • edited September 2012
    Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative.

    You're kidding, right? She wasn't the most stable of characters before her father's head was smashed in right in front of her, and you find her snapping to be far fetched?
  • edited September 2012
    You reason and discuss like an eleven year old. You also seem to have no idea what mature and intelligent story-boarding is about. I'll be looking for an ignore feature in case I do stick around here a bit.

    haha im freakin dying dude thanks for making my day

    Your getting worked up over a freakin character in a game !! :D :D and Im the eleven year old. Typical response for a kid below the age of 15. Oh and I have no clue about intelligent story boarding??? Ill be the first one to say I dont, but you do? The response to the story has been overwhelmingly positive. And was that supposed to be an insult .. holy shit dude u r funny.

    I just tell it as it is. Please reply. PLLLLEEAASSSEEE!!!!
  • edited September 2012
    Merc wrote: »
    Kenny protected his own. They didn't know how fast people turn--and there's no way you could come back from cardiac arrest like that WITHOUT some medical equipment.

    You might wish to learn something about heart conditions sometime. Kenny's actions in the real world would have earned him a manslaughter conviction at the bare minimum. A person in cardiac arrest does not move or act like that. Angina, even severe, is not "cardiac arrest". A vasodilator is ideal in even the slightest of attacks, but a person has decent recovery chances of even a major attack with nothing but relaxation. The heart CAN fail due to angina (and likely one day will) but that was not what heart failure looks like.

    A person in acute heart failure (cardiac arrest) turns red, swells up like a balloon, and coughs up pink foam.

    Kenny murdered Larry, and was eager to do it.
  • edited September 2012
    I did some research. Not sure it's the same Lilly. Everett and Larry aren't even remotely similar names.

    Telltale originally said that the Lilly ingame IS that Lilly, but apparantly didn't realise that Kirkman gave Lilly a dad in that book. Also note that Everett is Lee's last name.
  • edited September 2012
    You're kidding, right? She wasn't the most stable of characters before her father's head was smashed in right in front of her, and you find her snapping to be far fetched?

    As I did not come into this expecting her to be some lunatic from "later in the series" I got the chance to take her at face value. The woman presented in episodes 1 and two would be alive long after most of us had succumbed to our own stupidity, and would likely be leading a large group. Contrary to popular belief from cartoons and weekly TV shows, long term military service (like the lead of a mechanic's pool has likely had) turns out very few imbeciles.
  • edited September 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    Telltale originally said that the Lilly ingame IS that Lilly, but apparantly didn't realise that Kirkman gave Lilly a dad in that book. Also note that Everett is Lee's last name.

    That's a shame. That being the case, I am not likely to pick up the comic book, given the lunatic that the magical canon fairies made her into for Episode 3 is probably the same lunatic she is in that comic book.
  • edited September 2012
    "I'm not playing because the story didn't go the way I wanted it"

    Fair enough. Moving on.
  • edited September 2012
    I said my piece, ran into some preexisting canon, medical ignorance, and immature discussion, a fun time was had by all. Take care, ya'all.
  • edited September 2012
    Cooperal wrote: »
    "I'm not playing because the story didn't go the way I wanted it"

    Fair enough. Moving on.

    Actually what I said was the story makes no sense. Your comment added nothing at all, beyond an attempt to prop up your ego at the expense of others. Much like comments you make in real life, I imagine.
  • edited September 2012
    You might wish to learn something about heart conditions sometime. Kenny's actions in the real world would have earned him a manslaughter conviction at the bare minimum. A person in cardiac arrest does not move or act like that. Angina, even severe, is not "cardiac arrest". A vasodilator is ideal in even the slightest of attacks, but a person has decent recovery chances of even a major attack with nothing but relaxation. The heart CAN fail due to angina (and likely one day will) but that was not what heart failure looks like.

    A person in acute heart failure (cardiac arrest) turns red, swells up like a balloon, and coughs up pink foam.

    Kenny murdered Larry, and was eager to do it.

    It really doesn't matter what you want to call it. I'm one of those who tried to help Lilly resuscitate Larry, but what Kenny did was likely in their best interest. It only took that teacher in the beginning of episode 2, what, a minute to turn after he died?

    Imagine what would have happened if Larry turned before Kenny had smashed his head in. Keep in mind that Larry was somewhere around 6'4 and 250-300 lbs.
  • edited September 2012
    That's a shame. That being the case, I am not likely to pick up the comic book, given the lunatic that the magical canon fairies made her into for Episode 3 is probably the same lunatic she is in that comic book.

    I so want to spoil what happens to her right now. I'll put it in spoilers if you really want to know what she does in the comics.
    In the comics, there is a horrible, horrible character called "the governor" this guy is a murderor, rapist, kidnapper, etc... and runs an entire town without anyone knowing what he does to other groups. Lilly works for the governor oblivious as well. He declares war on the main group of the comics(Rick being that groups leader), and Lilly is among the soldiers that fight with the governor. The governor flat out wins the fight, and slaughters half the cast single handedly, of which, was Rick's wife and newborn daughter... who Lilly murdered herself. She didn't know about the baby, and realises who the governor truly is and kills him in cold blood, then she sees she is out of ammo and a group of walkers start to get near. It is unknown if she is alive or not
  • edited September 2012
    As I did not come into this expecting her to be some lunatic from "later in the series" I got the chance to take her at face value. The woman presented in episodes 1 and two would be alive long after most of us had succumbed to our own stupidity, and would likely be leading a large group. Contrary to popular belief from cartoons and weekly TV shows, long term military service (like the lead of a mechanic's pool has likely had) turns out very few imbeciles.

    Nobody went in expecting her to turn into anything. Nobody said she was an imbecile, far from it actually, but her being ex-military doesn't mean that she can't crack under pressure eventually. You keep saying that her snapping and killing Carley doesn't make sense, but it does.
  • edited September 2012
    Actually what I said was the story makes no sense. Your comment added nothing at all, beyond an attempt to prop up your ego at the expense of others. Much like comments you make in real life, I imagine.

    Alrite you said youll stop posting, stop trying to boost your ego and have "the last word" we understand what you said. And we have stated our opinions. Bye.

    Also, not to egg you on here which I know I will do, but I honestly think you have a slight disability if you dont understand the story or think the story doesnt make sense. You can make an argument that its fictional and not realistic enough, but regardless the story makes sense.

    And are we wrong to say that to sum up what you are saying based on your original post is that exactly:

    "I dont like what happened in the game, so Im stop playing it"

    Because the truth is that is 100% what you are saying.
  • edited September 2012
    big-augen wrote: »
    It was ONE issue and she doesn't have a major role in it, but a major impact on Rick.

    She appears in 3 issues. Know your facts.
    And when I say a major role, I mean of course the impact she has on Rick.... And what she does afterwards.
  • edited September 2012
    Oh wow, a book about Lilly's time between the game and comic?

    Cool. :)
  • edited September 2012
    It would be nice to explore her character after what happened after the prison attack. Have one last "angry Lee" moment with her.
  • edited September 2012
    You might wish to learn something about heart conditions sometime. Kenny's actions in the real world would have earned him a manslaughter conviction at the bare minimum. A person in cardiac arrest does not move or act like that. Angina, even severe, is not "cardiac arrest". A vasodilator is ideal in even the slightest of attacks, but a person has decent recovery chances of even a major attack with nothing but relaxation. The heart CAN fail due to angina (and likely one day will) but that was not what heart failure looks like.

    A person in acute heart failure (cardiac arrest) turns red, swells up like a balloon, and coughs up pink foam.

    Kenny murdered Larry, and was eager to do it.

    You can fall over and die from infarction in seconds. Depends how severe it is and where it is located in the heart.
    One thing is for sure, when Larry dropped dead, was unconcious and not breathing. He was gone. CPR would have have been enough to bring him back.
  • edited September 2012
    Fishsticks wrote: »
    If you left her outside the Rv then you see her run off
    If you kept her either way she takes the RV.
    So she is most likely still alive
    What is your guys idea of if she will be back.

    i hope she does. I actually tried to be civil with her even when she took the RV.

    What happens if you take the RV with her?
  • edited September 2012
    HorrorGod wrote: »
    She appears in 3 issues. Know your facts.
    And when I say a major role, I mean of course the impact she has on Rick.... And what she does afterwards.

    Tell me he issue numbers, please.

    EDIT: Oh boy, I just found her on a panel of issue #
    46. You can see her in the background.
    OK, that makes TWO issues, mate. She isn't in issue #
    47
    . Last time we see her is in issue #
    48
    .

    However, she has a major impact in only ONE issue.
  • edited September 2012
    Why are parts of the last message blacked out?
  • edited September 2012
    Peace&Love wrote: »
    Damn it. I thought this was a bring back Carley poll so I voted no... Fuck Carley and bring back Lilly ^^

    She's the leader this group deserves, but not the one it needs right now :p
  • edited September 2012
    big-augen wrote: »
    Tell me he issue numbers, please.

    EDIT: Oh boy, I just found her on a panel of issue #
    46. You can see her in the background.
    OK, that makes TWO issues, mate. She isn't in issue #
    47
    . Last time we see her is in issue #
    48
    .

    However, she has a major impact in only ONE issue.

    Thank you for checking. Looks like we were both wrong. :)
  • edited September 2012
    Nope. It's time for her to ruin Rick's life now.
  • edited September 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Nope. It's time for her to ruin Rick's life now.
    and also rid the world of one of the sickest dictators alive. It was a necessary evil.
    Plus she was manipulated into thinking Rick's group were the enemy. I can't get why people blame her for that.
  • edited September 2012
    I always hated Lilly , She was like Shane in the TV show except she was obsessed with power as opposed to Lori. She always had to be running things. I hope she doesn't come back but if she does it will be in Season 2 after she escapes the prison and decides Woodbury isn't safe.
  • edited September 2012
    Lilly was left to a very open ended fate, i won't say what happened because more people need to read the comics and see what happens.
    And, without you know who Woodbury would be safe, right?
  • edited September 2012
    Freeze wrote: »
    I always hated Lilly , She was like Shane in the TV show except she was obsessed with power as opposed to Lori. She always had to be running things. I hope she doesn't come back but if she does it will be in Season 2 after she escapes the prison and decides Woodbury isn't safe.

    She's nothing like Shane in the TV show...
    Shane is obsessed over his friend's wife and does not give a fu** for the group (except maybe for Carl).
    Lilly might be headstrong but she does care for the group. She deals with the shit no one else bothers to. To be honest most of those in the group look a bit dumb. In episode 2 like half the party complained that they won't receive food. I mean c'mon... it's obvious there's not enough food for everybody. Food won't magically appear (just as Carley won't magically return :p). Lol, I'm such a horrible person for saying things like that.
    Lilly never betrayed my Lee and though she killed Carley/Doug she though she was doing what was right at the time. There was a traitor and it needed to be dealt with. Plus she has been through a lot since ep 2.
    Shane hasn't gone through anything and he's a cop. He's supposed to be mentally healthy and not snap without strong external motivators.
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