Him being in Season 2 is definately a possibility. Considering that they seemed to ahve gone out of their way to make BOTH his "deaths" so unclear and open to speculation, they seem to want to at least keep the option for him to return open. Personally, I'd LOVE to see the man again, so long as he's not a permanent member of the new group or, god forbid, the PC.
I'd like if he was a permanent character in the sense we don't see him just to see him, ya know? Like he sticks out with the group. Idk, he was just one of my favorite characters, it'd suck if he died a poor death. He can't be the PC, though. His character is completely mapped out, so having him act differently wouldn't make sense.
In the christa version of his death he stops talking mid word which isn't a good sign. The full quote i hear is "Ill...be...Arghh...O..."
We cant say for sure if he's alive or dead of course, only that the situation looked bad. Escape far from impossible though if you want to look on the bright side.
In the christa version of his death he stops talking mid word which isn't a good sign. The full quote i hear is "Ill...be...Arghh...O..."
We cant say for sure if he's alive or dead of course, only that the situation looked bad. Escape far from impossible though if you want to look on the bright side.
Well.. Kenny didn't want to die, which he especially reveals if Ben lives to episode 5. I don't know too well bout the building, but the alley has alot of windows and doors and probably other ways of escaping.
In the building, there was light shining through. There was some way out. And all buildings have doors :P Windows almost definitely, and since they were over the first story, staircases or even an elevator. So take ya pick.
I think it is a very high chance of him living. I hope anyway.
Well.. Kenny didn't want to die, which he especially reveals if Ben lives to episode 5. I don't know too well bout the building, but the alley has alot of windows and doors and probably other ways of escaping.
In the building, there was light shining through. There was some way out. And all buildings have doors :P Windows almost definitely, and since they were over the first story, staircases or even an elevator. So take ya pick.
I think it is a very high chance of him living. I hope anyway.
I'm still not sure whether he meant he didn't want to die or whether he didn't want to "quit" like Katjaa, and can justify it as a sacrifice instead of suicide, in the Ben version especially his decision to stay behind is quite needless.
Maybe im just needlessly negative, but can you blame me with all the game hass shown us so far? The options open for them if they want to write an escape. I'm certain he do know he at least tried to fight his way out and your right that the situation, if bleak wasn't hopeless, but the whole thing felt like a death scene to me, his last goodbye with Lee and the resigned look on his face.
Eh maybe. It was at first, maybe that is why you feel that way. Gammin said when it was first recorded it was clear Kenny died, but did a retake to make the 'death scene' more subtle.
Kenny didn't want to die, he wanted to make it. He wanted to believe in hope. He wanted to help Ben because of pity, that he felt bad for being a jerk to him. Probably also saw it as a Shawn position. He was going to die, but Kenny didn't want to leave another helpless victim.
I know that I were to think as Kenny, he knew that if there was ANY way he could make it out, it wouldn't be with Lee there too.
Kenny didn't wish to give up, as you said with the talk about Katjaa. That you don't give up until the very end. He also spoke of being a better friend, so he wanted to redeem himself. I don't think he'd die before truly accomplishing that.
If you talk between him and Lee, I forget what you have to choose, but he will say how either way, it's okay. Either he saves the boy/he survives, or he gets to see his family again. However, when the walkers close in, he seems to have a change of heart and makes a run for it, ending Ben quickly. I don't know why, but I think he had his reasons.
He wasn't sacrificing himself, there was no reason to. And it wasn't a suicide, because he spoke about how it is never the answer. I think it is a special conversation(as in you have to choose just the right responses). I can understand your thoughts though, and he could be dead. I am a huge TWD fan though, and if there is one thig I know, if you don't see the body, they aren't dead. They will clarify with time. I can hope he is alive, and it seems you are a fan of him as well. I think the chances he survived the death scene are higher than him dying, even if Telltale only gives him a brief re-intro before snatching him again to truly kill him. I can think this because Telltale is low on veteran/returning characters. You have Clem, Omid, Christa, Molly(possible), Kenny(possible), Lilly(now possible). I think that's it unless Lilly used Carley's pistol to kill Carley/Doug xD (reference to episode 2 with Andy). Just gotta hope!
Kenny's scene isn't really a death scene. More of a "Lee needs to confront the stranger alone" scene to get Kenny out of the picture in a believable way.
Eh maybe. It was at first, maybe that is why you feel that way. Gammin said when it was first recorded it was clear Kenny died, but did a retake to make the 'death scene' more subtle.
Kenny didn't want to die, he wanted to make it. He wanted to believe in hope. He wanted to help Ben because of pity, that he felt bad for being a jerk to him. Probably also saw it as a Shawn position. He was going to die, but Kenny didn't want to leave another helpless victim.
I know that I were to think as Kenny, he knew that if there was ANY way he could make it out, it wouldn't be with Lee there too.
Kenny didn't wish to give up, as you said with the talk about Katjaa. That you don't give up until the very end. He also spoke of being a better friend, so he wanted to redeem himself. I don't think he'd die before truly accomplishing that.
If you talk between him and Lee, I forget what you have to choose, but he will say how either way, it's okay. Either he saves the boy/he survives, or he gets to see his family again. However, when the walkers close in, he seems to have a change of heart and makes a run for it, ending Ben quickly. I don't know why, but I think he had his reasons.
He wasn't sacrificing himself, there was no reason to. And it wasn't a suicide, because he spoke about how it is never the answer. I think it is a special conversation(as in you have to choose just the right responses). I can understand your thoughts though, and he could be dead. I am a huge TWD fan though, and if there is one thig I know, if you don't see the body, they aren't dead. They will clarify with time. I can hope he is alive, and it seems you are a fan of him as well. I think the chances he survived the death scene are higher than him dying, even if Telltale only gives him a brief re-intro before snatching him again to truly kill him. I can think this because Telltale is low on veteran/returning characters. You have Clem, Omid, Christa, Molly(possible), Kenny(possible), Lilly(now possible). I think that's it unless Lilly used Carley's pistol to kill Carley/Doug xD (reference to episode 2 with Andy). Just gotta hope!
If he wanted to live he wouldn't of stayed behind, and there was no way out of either scenario.
Kenny's scene isn't really a death scene. More of a "Lee needs to confront the stranger alone" scene to get Kenny out of the picture in a believable way.
Yeah, I kinda feel that way, too. Though I'm not totally convinced that he's either dead, undead, or alive.
Personally, whatever TTG decides to do would be fine with me. I trust 'em!
I don't see how Ben could make any noises after being mercy killed by Kenny
Dude, seriously? a body getting torn apart and eaten as walkers eat him doesn't make a lot of noise? Brie never said much, but the walkers biting her made alot of noise.
@King, if he wanted to die he'd of done it long ago. He was helping Lee find that little girl, but he was also trying to keep the group alive. He probably thinks he should be the one to die over anyone, but I seriously soubt he was trying to die "either I save the boy or I get to see them again..." Christa scene "Just get her out of here! Go! I'll be *sounds of struggle* get off of me!" So you don't know. If you talk to him about the dead couple how it might have been the right thing to do, he'll comment that you don't just give up, that you fight it as long as you are alive. I believe after that it was never suicide. He was trying for justice.
Oh wow! Someone found proof! And it's already things we've seen before. Great
Honestly, if they bring Kenny back, I'll be severely disappointing in the game. Hell, if they bring him back in season two, then I probably won't play season three. Because at that point it's no longer a gritty realistic game about what would happen in the real world if zombies came in. It's now a game where a man with no way out of an alleyway without getting bitten escapes. I mean, The Walking Dead game is all about a good narrative, and there's no way Kenny could escape, and honestly, no reason for him to do so. All of his family members are dead, he's helping a man he may or may not like, find a little girl. He's done his part, and he's helped christa out of a hole and mercy killed Ben. He's done his part and he's justified what he's done as a sacrifice.
There are several windows on both sides of the buildings in the alleyway. Further, if they can "smell blood" as Christa says, the walkers would be more inclined to go for the profusely bleeding Ben rather than Kenny, but i suppose that's a long shot.
Either way, there is a chance for escape in both scenarios. It is very slim, but it's there and refusing to accept it won't deny its existence.
I wouldn't think he'd be alive were it not for
Tyreese.
It may be beating a dead horse, but that event proves that this type of escape is not out of the realm of possibility in this universe.
Regardless of whether Kenny sees Lee as a friend or not, he still cares for him and Clementine, because he says even though his family is gone he knows he can be even more alone.
Wow, so when someone is trapped they are automatically dead? He was surrounded, not eaten! There was a chance to escape. Look up tyresse of comic books, he survives being completely surrounded by walkers and left for dead. He makes it back ALIVE and UNHARMED, so your point that there is no chance is null. He could have killed them all simply with his pistol as a melee. Unlikely? Yes. Possible. Yes indeed.
Honestly, if they bring Kenny back, I'll be severely disappointing in the game. Hell, if they bring him back in season two, then I probably won't play season three. Because at that point it's no longer a gritty realistic game about what would happen in the real world if zombies came in. It's now a game where a man with no way out of an alleyway without getting bitten escapes.
Like a lot of people, I think you're confusing pessimism with realism. Why do you believe Kenny's escape should completely undermine this otherwise dark and horrible world? As someone else already pointed out, Kenny's chances of survival are slim, but they're not nonexistent. Hell, Lee was able to fight through a street full of walkers in episode 5, and depending on how you control him, he doesn't get chomped once. I should also mention he was already in bad shape, and in an alternate scenario, missing an arm.
As for Kenny's arc being "finished", I don't agree on that point. Neither scene in which he "dies" came across as a genuine farewell to the character. Maybe this is due to Telltale's own decision to leave Ken's fate on an ambiguous note. Or maybe it has more to do with something Kenny said in the bedroom about never having to give up. One cutscene later, and he appears to be doing exactly that, at least in Ben's scenario.
Kenny alive, Kenny dead, Kenny as a walker, Kenny as the PC...either way, I strongly doubt we've seen the last of him.
Like a lot of people, I think you're confusing pessimism with realism. Why do you believe Kenny's escape should completely undermine this otherwise dark and horrible world? As someone else already pointed out, Kenny's chances of survival are slim, but they're not nonexistent. Hell, Lee was able to fight through a street full of walkers in episode 5, and depending on how you control him, he doesn't get chomped once. I should also mention he was already in bad shape, and in an alternate scenario, missing an arm.
As for Kenny's arc being "finished", I don't agree on that point. Neither scene in which he "dies" came across as a genuine farewell to the character. Maybe this is due to Telltale's own decision to leave Ken's fate on an ambiguous note. Or maybe it has more to do with something Kenny said in the bedroom about never having to give up. One cutscene later, and he appears to be doing exactly that, at least in Ben's scenario.
Kenny alive, Kenny dead, Kenny as a walker, Kenny as the PC...either way, I strongly doubt we've seen the last of him.
I agree. I think it isn't the end for him. For Kenny, at the very least, I think we'll see him again :P
Everyone that dies in TWD dies in front of your eyes shawn/doug/carly/mark/ben/kat/duck/chuck/brie. Not kenny though. This and in E5 he states kat took the easy way out and says that isnt right. So he isnt dead.
Everyone that dies in TWD dies in front of your eyes shawn/doug/carly/mark/ben/kat/duck/chuck/brie. Not kenny though. This and in E5 he states kat took the easy way out and says that isnt right. So he isnt dead.
That's not so true; Lee's parents for example, they're pretty clearly dead - but we never see it happen and we don't see bodies (all we have is the line that there was an elderly couple in the office).
More to the point, however, there's also Andy and Danny St. John, if you didn't kill them yourself. I doubt a lot of people expect to see them again, and I think atleast Andy had a lot more in escape options than Kenny did. Hell, by this reasoning we even have to count the pregnant cow as not being dead, since we don't see it get eaten once walkers lumber onto the farm.
That's not so true; Lee's parents for example, they're pretty clearly dead - but we never see it happen and we don't see bodies (all we have is the line that there was an elderly couple in the office).
More to the point, however, there's also Andy and Danny St. John, if you didn't kill them yourself. I doubt a lot of people expect to see them again, and I think atleast Andy had a lot more in escape options than Kenny did. Hell, by this reasoning we even have to count the pregnant cow as not being dead, since we don't see it get eaten once walkers lumber onto the farm.
Expect none of these people or animals are part of the main cast. You only see them for a time. Every person I named is a main cast member alive for multi episodes except brie/mark.
Expect none of these people or animals are part of the main cast. You only see them for a time. Every person I named is a main cast member alive for multi episodes except brie/mark.
That's shifting the goal posts though. You said "everyone that dies" (emphasis mine) not just the main cast. If you meant just the main cast, why include examples that weren't part of it?
Incidentally, there's also the big one: Lee. We never see his corpse with gunshot to the head or see him reanimate... and the developers confirmed he's dead.
That's shifting the goal posts though. You said "everyone that dies" (emphasis mine) not just the main cast. If you meant just the main cast, why include examples that weren't part of it?
Incidentally, there's also the big one: Lee. We never see his corpse with gunshot to the head or see him reanimate... and the developers confirmed he's dead.
mark/brie are main cast just not multi episodes. As for lee you didnt see it because theres more to tell even if its just zombie lee. Just like not seeing kennys death. Writes way of saying more things to come. Samething with Lily. She will be back some way or form because you didnt see her fall.
That's not so true; Lee's parents for example, they're pretty clearly dead - but we never see it happen and we don't see bodies (all we have is the line that there was an elderly couple in the office).
More to the point, however, there's also Andy and Danny St. John, if you didn't kill them yourself. I doubt a lot of people expect to see them again, and I think atleast Andy had a lot more in escape options than Kenny did. Hell, by this reasoning we even have to count the pregnant cow as not being dead, since we don't see it get eaten once walkers lumber onto the farm.
If i meant lees parents/cow/st john i would of mentioned them ya think.
If i meant lees parents/cow/st john i would of mentioned them ya think.
Not if they disprove your reasoning of "everyone that dies in TWD dies in front of your eyes" as a rationalization for Kenny not being dead.
And I'd love to know how you define "main cast" if Shawn, Mark and Brie somehow qualify, yet the St. John brothers don't. Andy and Danny had more time under the spotlight than Shawn or Brie ever did.
You keep saying EVERYONE but i listed who everyone was. Not a cow. Not the st johns which are antagonist and they are not gonna be around long. Even still kennys death not being seen is 1 of 2 reasons why i said hes alive. He doesnt believe in suicide. Like i said before. Shawn is 1st person you go with after clem and is brought up 2 more after his death. Mark is part of E2 as much if not more than st johns. Maybe brie could be argued but still is around long enough to believe she might be part of the group aka main cast. Of course you know she doesnt make it but at the time you dont know.
That's not so true; Lee's parents for example, they're pretty clearly dead - but we never see it happen and we don't see bodies (all we have is the line that there was an elderly couple in the office).
More to the point, however, there's also Andy and Danny St. John, if you didn't kill them yourself. I doubt a lot of people expect to see them again, and I think atleast Andy had a lot more in escape options than Kenny did. Hell, by this reasoning we even have to count the pregnant cow as not being dead, since we don't see it get eaten once walkers lumber onto the farm.
Hmm... following the reasoning that all of the above mentioned are alive, so what? That changes nothing regarding Kenny. I don't know which side you're on in the Kenny-alive-or-dead debate, but that argument further supports him surviving than dying.
Perhaps main cast can be defined as anyone who is an ally. The St. Johns are not on your side and likely wouldn't be from the start. They just want to trade you human meat for gasoline to keep themselves safe, and kill you if you figure it out. Mark is always on your side, and Brie is cautious at first but assists you to her death.
i vote alive. that way kenny would wind up seeing the visions of lee from time to time like how rick is seeing his wife in the t.v. show. one we would get to see lee again (sort of) and it would be fitting on the part of kenny. the weak will inherit the earth.
i vote alive. that way kenny would wind up seeing the visions of lee from time to time like how rick is seeing his wife in the t.v. show. one we would get to see lee again (sort of) and it would be fitting on the part of kenny. the weak will inherit the earth.
Kenny seeing hallucinations of Lee? Wouldn't Clem be a more probable candidate?
Kenny seeing hallucinations of Lee? Wouldn't Clem be a more probable candidate?
Why would he? While Kenny does care about Clem, he knew Lee and Omid & and Christa were on their way to save her, and if Lee failed Omid & Christa still have a good chance to rescue her. He knew Lee was guaranteed dead, but Clementine would always have hope in the form of Omid & Christa(since they are still there when Kenny dies). In that case i think it would be more probable for him to reflect on things regarding Lee directly rather than indirectly through Clem, especially since they were never very close.
He could be thinking of how he could have done things differently, helped him get Clem or just been a better friend in general, since he knows Lee is one person he will not see again.
Edit: It seems i may have misinterpreted the statement. You probably meant Clem seeing hallucinations of Lee, in which case i feel terribly dim.
He could be thinking of how he could have done things differently, helped him get Clem or just been a better friend in general, since he knows Lee is one person he will not see again.
This is the sort of detail that might help placate fans who disliked Kenny. If the subject of Lee was ever brought up, Kenny could have dialogue along the lines of, "He was a better pal than I deserved," or, if he didn't get along with Lee, "The pair of us were...real shits sometimes."
Or maybe none of the above would even be necessary, if Kenny were to simply stumble across Lee's body in the jewellery store. Whatever takes place in that scene could resolve Lee and Kenny's relationship permanently, and it would never have to be referred to again.
Hello guys and girls Jake here with my first theory on this forum! This theory is on our friends Lee and Kenny to be ALIVE in season 2! You must hear me out I understand this is quite hard to believe but please hear me out. You may find my theories interesting , I hope you do!
Kenny is alive?
OK Kenny supposedly dies trying to save Ben or Christa. But I looked over these scenes and found many escape routes Kenny could of took. As I said there is much more details in the video on youtube but I definitely think Kenny escaped. When he was saving Ben he could of jumped through the window. You might argue that all the windows were boarded up but back at the mansion when the group was attacked by a BIG horde of zombies. Zombie Brie managed to break through the boarded up window and an alive person would be able to break it much easier.
When he saved Christa he was in a MUCH bigger room with LOTS of un-boarded windows and probably stairs going down considering it was a 2 story house so there is many more escape routes in that scene. And if he managed to escape from the building I think he would of gone into the sewer because when Lee was crossing the custom made bridge, he looked down and there was a sewer with about 10 walkers down there. Now considering Lee walked through about 40 with just a cleaver and maybe a glass shard and if he doesn't have a glass shard he is missing a bloody arm! So if a one armed man can walk through 40 walkers I'm pretty sure a healthy non-bitten man can push through 10 walkers. So I think Kenny will live in season 2!
Lee is alive
OK this theory is much more hard to believe but please hear me out. So we think that Lee dies either by Clementines gunshot or by the infection. But first of all I think Lee got rid of the infection. When or if he cuts of his arm I think it works because in The Walking Dead TV show by AMC. A farmer who is in the group called Hershel gets bitten on his leg and the main character Rick decides to cut his leg off. He does so and he passes. Later he actually dies and Rick's wife Laurie does CPR on him and revives him. What if this happens to Lee? What if Molly or even Kenny comes into the store where they were and did CPR on Lee and revived him? So that is a possibility. Now if you don't cut off your arm when you are about to boss out and kill the 40 odd zombies Lee picks up a glass shard and squeezes it preferably for better grip when the glass is going through the thick zombie's skull HA! HA! But back to the theory... He ironically squeezes it on the ARM HE WAS BITTEN ON. Blood trickled down the glass, what if that is the infection? What if that is draining the infection from his blood and body? Another possibility. Now you are probably now thinking what if you handcuffed Lee or had Clementine shoot her? Well with the handcuffs, If someone did come they would easily be able to break the handcuffs maybe with the baseball bat Clementine used to kill the walker. Also if you decide to handcuff the walker, it breaks free, who to say Lee can't? Especially if he is alive he would had much more strength to break free of the handcuffs. Now what if Clem shoots Lee? Well I noticed two things, when she shoots Lee she swerves her gun to the side, so what if she missed and couldn't kill him so she left him anyway? Also if you listen very carefully when Clem shoots there is a breath. An inhale not an exhale that you might do when you die. And this was a manly HUH! not a female HAA! so I think it was Lee's inhale so I think he is still alive... YAAY!
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I'm not COMPLETELY sure that Kenny is dead, but Lee is pretty much dead, dude. The only way he wouldn't have died was if he had cut his arm off right away, but he waited too long. It only worked for Hershel because they cut his leg off at that very moment.
I'm not COMPLETELY sure that Kenny is dead, but Lee is pretty much dead, dude. The only way he wouldn't have died was if he had cut his arm off right away, but he waited too long. It only worked for Hershel because they cut his leg off at that very moment.
Thanks for your opinion bro really appreciate it I like hearing other people's theories. This is just my opinion, just some information I have gathered. Thanks bro and STAY AWESOME!
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"Go get that girl!Back you sons of bitches!"
*moves off screen*
*death sounds*
Kenny is D.E.A.D. :P
No,seriously though.
those 'death sounds' were made by the walkers. In the one with Ben, most sounds are made of Ben getting eaten after dying.
We cant say for sure if he's alive or dead of course, only that the situation looked bad. Escape far from impossible though if you want to look on the bright side.
Well.. Kenny didn't want to die, which he especially reveals if Ben lives to episode 5. I don't know too well bout the building, but the alley has alot of windows and doors and probably other ways of escaping.
In the building, there was light shining through. There was some way out. And all buildings have doors :P Windows almost definitely, and since they were over the first story, staircases or even an elevator. So take ya pick.
I think it is a very high chance of him living. I hope anyway.
I'm still not sure whether he meant he didn't want to die or whether he didn't want to "quit" like Katjaa, and can justify it as a sacrifice instead of suicide, in the Ben version especially his decision to stay behind is quite needless.
Maybe im just needlessly negative, but can you blame me with all the game hass shown us so far? The options open for them if they want to write an escape. I'm certain he do know he at least tried to fight his way out and your right that the situation, if bleak wasn't hopeless, but the whole thing felt like a death scene to me, his last goodbye with Lee and the resigned look on his face.
Kenny didn't want to die, he wanted to make it. He wanted to believe in hope. He wanted to help Ben because of pity, that he felt bad for being a jerk to him. Probably also saw it as a Shawn position. He was going to die, but Kenny didn't want to leave another helpless victim.
I know that I were to think as Kenny, he knew that if there was ANY way he could make it out, it wouldn't be with Lee there too.
Kenny didn't wish to give up, as you said with the talk about Katjaa. That you don't give up until the very end. He also spoke of being a better friend, so he wanted to redeem himself. I don't think he'd die before truly accomplishing that.
If you talk between him and Lee, I forget what you have to choose, but he will say how either way, it's okay. Either he saves the boy/he survives, or he gets to see his family again. However, when the walkers close in, he seems to have a change of heart and makes a run for it, ending Ben quickly. I don't know why, but I think he had his reasons.
He wasn't sacrificing himself, there was no reason to. And it wasn't a suicide, because he spoke about how it is never the answer. I think it is a special conversation(as in you have to choose just the right responses). I can understand your thoughts though, and he could be dead. I am a huge TWD fan though, and if there is one thig I know, if you don't see the body, they aren't dead. They will clarify with time. I can hope he is alive, and it seems you are a fan of him as well. I think the chances he survived the death scene are higher than him dying, even if Telltale only gives him a brief re-intro before snatching him again to truly kill him. I can think this because Telltale is low on veteran/returning characters. You have Clem, Omid, Christa, Molly(possible), Kenny(possible), Lilly(now possible). I think that's it unless Lilly used Carley's pistol to kill Carley/Doug xD (reference to episode 2 with Andy). Just gotta hope!
I don't see how Ben could make any noises after being mercy killed by Kenny
If he wanted to live he wouldn't of stayed behind, and there was no way out of either scenario.
Yeah, I kinda feel that way, too. Though I'm not totally convinced that he's either dead, undead, or alive.
Personally, whatever TTG decides to do would be fine with me. I trust 'em!
Dude, seriously? a body getting torn apart and eaten as walkers eat him doesn't make a lot of noise? Brie never said much, but the walkers biting her made alot of noise.
Honestly, if they bring Kenny back, I'll be severely disappointing in the game. Hell, if they bring him back in season two, then I probably won't play season three. Because at that point it's no longer a gritty realistic game about what would happen in the real world if zombies came in. It's now a game where a man with no way out of an alleyway without getting bitten escapes. I mean, The Walking Dead game is all about a good narrative, and there's no way Kenny could escape, and honestly, no reason for him to do so. All of his family members are dead, he's helping a man he may or may not like, find a little girl. He's done his part, and he's helped christa out of a hole and mercy killed Ben. He's done his part and he's justified what he's done as a sacrifice.
Either way, there is a chance for escape in both scenarios. It is very slim, but it's there and refusing to accept it won't deny its existence.
I wouldn't think he'd be alive were it not for
Regardless of whether Kenny sees Lee as a friend or not, he still cares for him and Clementine, because he says even though his family is gone he knows he can be even more alone.
Like a lot of people, I think you're confusing pessimism with realism. Why do you believe Kenny's escape should completely undermine this otherwise dark and horrible world? As someone else already pointed out, Kenny's chances of survival are slim, but they're not nonexistent. Hell, Lee was able to fight through a street full of walkers in episode 5, and depending on how you control him, he doesn't get chomped once. I should also mention he was already in bad shape, and in an alternate scenario, missing an arm.
As for Kenny's arc being "finished", I don't agree on that point. Neither scene in which he "dies" came across as a genuine farewell to the character. Maybe this is due to Telltale's own decision to leave Ken's fate on an ambiguous note. Or maybe it has more to do with something Kenny said in the bedroom about never having to give up. One cutscene later, and he appears to be doing exactly that, at least in Ben's scenario.
Kenny alive, Kenny dead, Kenny as a walker, Kenny as the PC...either way, I strongly doubt we've seen the last of him.
I agree. I think it isn't the end for him. For Kenny, at the very least, I think we'll see him again :P
That's not so true; Lee's parents for example, they're pretty clearly dead - but we never see it happen and we don't see bodies (all we have is the line that there was an elderly couple in the office).
More to the point, however, there's also Andy and Danny St. John, if you didn't kill them yourself. I doubt a lot of people expect to see them again, and I think atleast Andy had a lot more in escape options than Kenny did. Hell, by this reasoning we even have to count the pregnant cow as not being dead, since we don't see it get eaten once walkers lumber onto the farm.
Expect none of these people or animals are part of the main cast. You only see them for a time. Every person I named is a main cast member alive for multi episodes except brie/mark.
That's shifting the goal posts though. You said "everyone that dies" (emphasis mine) not just the main cast. If you meant just the main cast, why include examples that weren't part of it?
Incidentally, there's also the big one: Lee. We never see his corpse with gunshot to the head or see him reanimate... and the developers confirmed he's dead.
mark/brie are main cast just not multi episodes. As for lee you didnt see it because theres more to tell even if its just zombie lee. Just like not seeing kennys death. Writes way of saying more things to come. Samething with Lily. She will be back some way or form because you didnt see her fall.
If i meant lees parents/cow/st john i would of mentioned them ya think.
Not if they disprove your reasoning of "everyone that dies in TWD dies in front of your eyes" as a rationalization for Kenny not being dead.
And I'd love to know how you define "main cast" if Shawn, Mark and Brie somehow qualify, yet the St. John brothers don't. Andy and Danny had more time under the spotlight than Shawn or Brie ever did.
Hmm... following the reasoning that all of the above mentioned are alive, so what? That changes nothing regarding Kenny. I don't know which side you're on in the Kenny-alive-or-dead debate, but that argument further supports him surviving than dying.
Perhaps main cast can be defined as anyone who is an ally. The St. Johns are not on your side and likely wouldn't be from the start. They just want to trade you human meat for gasoline to keep themselves safe, and kill you if you figure it out. Mark is always on your side, and Brie is cautious at first but assists you to her death.
Kenny seeing hallucinations of Lee? Wouldn't Clem be a more probable candidate?
Why would he? While Kenny does care about Clem, he knew Lee and Omid & and Christa were on their way to save her, and if Lee failed Omid & Christa still have a good chance to rescue her. He knew Lee was guaranteed dead, but Clementine would always have hope in the form of Omid & Christa(since they are still there when Kenny dies). In that case i think it would be more probable for him to reflect on things regarding Lee directly rather than indirectly through Clem, especially since they were never very close.
He could be thinking of how he could have done things differently, helped him get Clem or just been a better friend in general, since he knows Lee is one person he will not see again.
Edit: It seems i may have misinterpreted the statement. You probably meant Clem seeing hallucinations of Lee, in which case i feel terribly dim.
This is the sort of detail that might help placate fans who disliked Kenny. If the subject of Lee was ever brought up, Kenny could have dialogue along the lines of, "He was a better pal than I deserved," or, if he didn't get along with Lee, "The pair of us were...real shits sometimes."
Or maybe none of the above would even be necessary, if Kenny were to simply stumble across Lee's body in the jewellery store. Whatever takes place in that scene could resolve Lee and Kenny's relationship permanently, and it would never have to be referred to again.
"both sides"
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Kenny is alive?
OK Kenny supposedly dies trying to save Ben or Christa. But I looked over these scenes and found many escape routes Kenny could of took. As I said there is much more details in the video on youtube but I definitely think Kenny escaped. When he was saving Ben he could of jumped through the window. You might argue that all the windows were boarded up but back at the mansion when the group was attacked by a BIG horde of zombies. Zombie Brie managed to break through the boarded up window and an alive person would be able to break it much easier.
When he saved Christa he was in a MUCH bigger room with LOTS of un-boarded windows and probably stairs going down considering it was a 2 story house so there is many more escape routes in that scene. And if he managed to escape from the building I think he would of gone into the sewer because when Lee was crossing the custom made bridge, he looked down and there was a sewer with about 10 walkers down there. Now considering Lee walked through about 40 with just a cleaver and maybe a glass shard and if he doesn't have a glass shard he is missing a bloody arm! So if a one armed man can walk through 40 walkers I'm pretty sure a healthy non-bitten man can push through 10 walkers. So I think Kenny will live in season 2!
Lee is alive
OK this theory is much more hard to believe but please hear me out. So we think that Lee dies either by Clementines gunshot or by the infection. But first of all I think Lee got rid of the infection. When or if he cuts of his arm I think it works because in The Walking Dead TV show by AMC. A farmer who is in the group called Hershel gets bitten on his leg and the main character Rick decides to cut his leg off. He does so and he passes. Later he actually dies and Rick's wife Laurie does CPR on him and revives him. What if this happens to Lee? What if Molly or even Kenny comes into the store where they were and did CPR on Lee and revived him? So that is a possibility. Now if you don't cut off your arm when you are about to boss out and kill the 40 odd zombies Lee picks up a glass shard and squeezes it preferably for better grip when the glass is going through the thick zombie's skull HA! HA! But back to the theory... He ironically squeezes it on the ARM HE WAS BITTEN ON. Blood trickled down the glass, what if that is the infection? What if that is draining the infection from his blood and body? Another possibility. Now you are probably now thinking what if you handcuffed Lee or had Clementine shoot her? Well with the handcuffs, If someone did come they would easily be able to break the handcuffs maybe with the baseball bat Clementine used to kill the walker. Also if you decide to handcuff the walker, it breaks free, who to say Lee can't? Especially if he is alive he would had much more strength to break free of the handcuffs. Now what if Clem shoots Lee? Well I noticed two things, when she shoots Lee she swerves her gun to the side, so what if she missed and couldn't kill him so she left him anyway? Also if you listen very carefully when Clem shoots there is a breath. An inhale not an exhale that you might do when you die. And this was a manly HUH! not a female HAA! so I think it was Lee's inhale so I think he is still alive... YAAY!
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Thanks for your opinion bro really appreciate it I like hearing other people's theories. This is just my opinion, just some information I have gathered. Thanks bro and STAY AWESOME!