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  • So by putting in 2 gay charcters in their game Telltale is promoting Liberal Agenda......

    Thats like saying watching a movie about world war II from the nazi perspective is anti-semetic agenda

    Oh yah in case you were gunna say that thats always the case:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_in_the_Striped_Pyjamas

    Yeah, some people want to destroy a non-political game by implenting liberal agenda in it. Walking Dead wouldn't be the first game they destroyed by doing this...

  • I am a gay man, and this "issue" hasn't entered my mind once while enjoying the Walking Dead series. Have a think about it, are you sure there have been no gay characters? How do you know Ben wasn't gay, or even Lee for that matter? Any single male not with a partner isn't implicit of their heterosexuality. Was it the lack of rainbow flags and tutus that made you think they weren't gay? To be honest, it's those kind of people who expect every gay person to be like that are the ones that annoy me, not game developers who don't have flouncing homos in their games. I'm single, does that make me straight? Only if I have a boyfriend, or assert to other people constantly that I like man sausage. I suggest you guys drop this non-issue before the whole world goes politically-correct crazy.

  • This

    Vexxed posted: »

    I am a gay man, and this "issue" hasn't entered my mind once while enjoying the Walking Dead series. Have a think about it, are you sure there

  • Rachni? You mean poor man's Xenos. Not even with a ten thousand kilometer warship.

    Kryik posted: »

    Xenos are messy yo. Unless you like that. Rachni horde is da shiz. Throw in some Berserkers

  • Roman isn't crazy. He's a good yet incapable leader.

    Kryik posted: »

    What are my ideals? You carzy Like Roman

  • No, I didn't mean that implenting a gay character itself is liberal agenda, but rather implenting him for no apparent reason other than confronting people with homosexuality. Can't we just keep out every kind of political, racial or historical message out of the story?
    Also looking at both perspectives is in most cases a good thing, but it's just not necessary in TWD.

    So by putting in 2 gay charcters in their game Telltale is promoting Liberal Agenda...... Thats like saying watching a movie about world wa

  • Look im not necessarily saying that there needs to be gay charcters in the game

    Ive been on here for 2 reasons

    1. To put a plug on the EXTREME amount of Bigotry overflowing in this thread

    2. Explain that Gay charcters=/=Liberal Agenda

    No, I didn't mean that implenting a gay character itself is liberal agenda, but rather implenting him for no apparent reason other than confro

  • Aight dawg, chu into? Tyranids? Arachnids? Some Orks fo da enthusiasm?

    ViralType posted: »

    Rachni? You mean poor man's Xenos. Not even with a ten thousand kilometer warship.

  • I'd show you a picture, but I'm not even sure if I'd be breaking the ''no porn'' guidelines.

    Kryik posted: »

    Aight dawg, chu into? Tyranids? Arachnids? Some Orks fo da enthusiasm?

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    True. Unless he became a bandito like Duck. Shane

    Roman isn't crazy. He's a good yet incapable leader.

  • It isn't the Predalien is it? :o

    ViralType posted: »

    I'd show you a picture, but I'm not even sure if I'd be breaking the ''no porn'' guidelines.

  • Nothing so trite and simple.

    Kryik posted: »

    It isn't the Predalien is it?

  • There is so much wrong with this I don't... ugh

    1. Thank you for calling out my ad hominem tactics we're all very glad to see you remembered that List of Logical Fallacies worksheet you got in Mrs. Teacherson's eighth grade English class
    2. Don't fucking use the word "ret***ed" you fucking shithead you clearly have no idea what kind of shit people who are systematically victimized by that kind of language experience (ignore this one if you are actually among the group of people who are systematically victimized by that kind of language)
    3. And now you're making fun of people who consider/attempt suicide you pathetic piece of garbage, fuck you, you have NO idea what it's like to think that that's your only option
    4. People will always hate me on the basis that I'm a trans lesbian. I will never be accepted by anybody and it's because of assholes like you that I'm fucking terrified to be speak out for myself anywhere other than on the internet. Online is the one even remotely safe space that I have access to and with you here it's not even that so fuck you for trying to shut me up
    5. I love how you called out that I'm insulting people as if that negates my argument and you then proceed to insult me, very, very good work
    6. Really hope you're black because "swag" is AAVE and if you're not then you're appropriating someone else's culture as a joke sooooo

    In conclusion, I'm right, you're wrong, go eat some diapers

  • If it isn't Leviathans, Clickers or Hurlocks it's good then

    ViralType posted: »

    Nothing so trite and simple.

  • edited January 2014

    I agree with you, but just want to point out that Lee had a wife, and was attracted to Carley(no matter what, Lee and Carley flirt with each other in Episode 3), or apparently if you killed Carley and was nice to Lilly, then Lilly.

    Still, I do agree with most of what you said.

    Vexxed posted: »

    I am a gay man, and this "issue" hasn't entered my mind once while enjoying the Walking Dead series. Have a think about it, are you sure there

  • edited January 2014

    First, I'd like to say thank you to @Kryik, @Zyphon, @The_Red_Panda and @16_BIT_MARIO1 who have been fighting for LGBT for most of this thread, but I'd like to talk. First of all, I would like to say that I am a gay guy so I'm not promoting homophobia or anything like that, but I'd like to say that homosexual relationships are extremely unlikely within the game (season 2) at this point in time.

    The thing is, a homosexual would be extremely rare to find in a ZA. Aside from the fact there are zombies, bandits and god-knows-what trying to kill them, homosexuals only make up about 5% of the population. I think the ZA has effectively wiped out 97% of the population of humans. Homosexuals wouldn't be zombie-free as well, so if the population hadn't been destroyed enough, there'd only be a very small pool of homosexuals left. Consider this with the issues of where people are placed, whether there'd be enough, if any, calm to develop a relationship, if the people are right for each other or not, not to mention any repercussions for just being an open homosexual or making a move on someone. As we've seen in the comics with Negan, the ZA is a backwards world, racism everywhere you go (exaggeration) and if there's racism there is most certainly homophobia.

    Aside from risks, there is also an unlikely chance that compatible homosexuals would be paired together in a group, considering that most groups are small, like the group in the game at the Motor Inn. However, that would not mean it would be impossible, as demonstrated by Aaron and Eric from the comics (Aaron and Eric were a homosexual couple). However, Eric and Aaron's relationship was to show how big and diverse the group are, and out of the cabin group only Nick, Pete and Luke have not been confirmed straight (I might be wrong on Pete). Also, I feel it would be unrealistic to implement a homosexual couple into the current Cabin group, and we would need an even bigger group to even find 2 homosexuals. The only realistic way of implementing a homosexual couple would be that the player character would be in that couple (obviously this is not happening with Clementine... I hope). Honestly, I thought that after seeing the romantic options with Carley, Lee and Doug would be revealed to be bisexual, to balance it out, but Telltale dodged a bullet on that one (I'm not sure many people would have taken that offer, anyway :P).

    Tl;dr: Homosexual couples aren't happening in The Walking Dead: Season 2 unless we find a new group.

  • Getting back on topic? What is this?

    Anyways, I believe in the Walking Deadverse zombies outnumber people 5000:1, which is more like 99.98% of people being wiped out. So if we consider the deaths being randomly distributed and that only 5% of the population is gay, it would actually be unlikely that two gay people would ever even meet, given that there are so few people to even meet. Although this wouldnt really apply to a couple that started out before the ZA happened

    First, I'd like to say thank you to @Kryik, @Zyphon, @The_Red_Panda and @16_BIT_MARIO1 who have been fighting for LGBT for most of this thread

    1. What do you mean by bigotry? People stating their opinion that they don't like gay people? People who say that their religion forbids gay relationships? Or do you mean the people who outright insult gay people? The third kind of people may be bigots, but they are in a minority in this thread. The other two fractions are way bigger.
    2. We got Lee, he's black, but that is not liberal agenda because he makes too many mistakes to be called perfect. And it wasn't that unrealistic to have a black character in a zombie apocalypse. But seeing that gays only make up 1-4% of the population (not 10%, although some weird people think that) it is unlikelier to see them in this world. And how would we know whether a person was gay or not? If they don't exactly act like it, we don't know for sure. So a gay character would have to act very "gay" so that we would recognize him. But that doesn't really fit with the asexual story and hence an obvious gay character would be unfitting for the story. And that means he was placed there to please a special kind of people - in this case liberals.

    Look im not necessarily saying that there needs to be gay charcters in the game Ive been on here for 2 reasons * To put a plug on the EXTREME amount of Bigotry overflowing in this thread * Explain that Gay charcters=/=Liberal Agenda

    1. I never got such a piece of paper, they don't teach something like that in my school.
    2. Aetarded is an insult for people who act very stupidly. Like you do by calling me a "shithead". Only to your information, I worked with special children for some time, they act exactly the same as us only in a very stupid way. Bullying, social structures and so on exist within their group aswell and not recognizing that is very intolerant.
    3. I've been depressive for half a decade now, I know how bad it is for the victims, yet I can make fun of them because I can make fun of myself, too.
    4. There's always tumbr and srs. Those are places where people like you collect and say how they hate everyone who is different from them. Kind of what society is like towards you.
    5. I didn't insult you, I only showed a picture of a fake twitter post made my John Doe
    6. If you think that only black people use the "secretly we are gay" term then you are a racist. Point.

    There is so much wrong with this I don't... ugh * Thank you for calling out my ad hominem tactics we're all very glad to see you remember

  • edited January 2014

    I deleted this

    ViralType posted: »

    You are now aware that having alien sex in Mass Effect is nothing more than beastiality. Think about it, a human having sex outside their spec

  • edited January 2014

    I can't believe how popular this has gotten, and how awesome people are on this. Especially @Zyphon, @Kryik and @16_BIT_MARIO1 and everyone else supporting this! you my friends are awesome!

  • I don't want to have some character coming out and saying "LOOK AT ME I'M GAY" I just want to see one, it would be interesting to see TT developing a particular archetype. That's all.

    "Only if there's a storytelling purpose," "Only if this...," "Only if that..." I'm trying to wrap my head around the "logic" that gay chara

  • But you fail to realize that people aren't suggesting a walking sterotype to be put in

    they are asking for a reasonably or possibly even closeted gay charcter

    Also are you suggesting that any gay person in any type of media or advertisement=Liberal Agenda

    Because if so Conservatives are more paranoid than I thought

    * What do you mean by bigotry? People stating their opinion that they don't like gay people? People who say that their religion forbids gay re

  • You do realize what you just said, right........?

    Do you see why people think christians are just ridiculous?

    I deleted this

  • Did you really read my whole text? Because I mentioned that gays would not be easy to discover unless they act like the gay stereotype. For all we know Doug or Luke could be gay, but you don't know for sure and this thread suggests that there aren't any people with alternative sexualities in this game so TT should include an obvious gay character which would in turn just be a political message for gay acceptance (although indirect).
    So in summary, I don't mind gay or black or whatever kind of characters if they behave like actual human beings with good and bad sides because then there is no political message behind it.

    But you fail to realize that people aren't suggesting a walking sterotype to be put in they are asking for a reasonably or possibly even cl

  • edited January 2014

    Well you obviously DO seem to mind considering your overly combative posts against the Gay supporters on the thread and your inability to understand that a gay person does Not have to be a walking stereotype to be gay.

    Did you really read my whole text? Because I mentioned that gays would not be easy to discover unless they act like the gay stereotype. For al

  • edited January 2014

    Your comment was unnecessarily rude. I didn't say anything offensive to you, I haven't berated you, I haven't harassed you. I don't deserve to be talked to that way.

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    You do realize what you just said, right........? Do you see why people think christians are just ridiculous?

  • I openly dislike opinion-dictating liberals, that is true. But your statement that gays have to act like the stereotypical gay is way more intolerant against them then you may think. By doing that you are basically claiming that not fulfilling your stereotype excludes you from a certain group you are supposed to be. That's like saying a successful black man is not black because the typical black man does not work and lives on food stamps.

    Well you obviously DO seem to mind considering your overly combative posts against the Gay supporters on the thread and your inability to understand that a gay person does Not have to be a walking stereotype to be gay.

  • I forgot my NOT there, apologies

    But lets remember that your the one who seems to think that gay characters can only be gay if they are super hyperlized effeminate homosexuals

    I openly dislike opinion-dictating liberals, that is true. But your statement that gays have to act like the stereotypical gay is way more int

  • I deleted this

    Ah so you do realize how stupid it sounded

    Maybe Christians CAN learn

    Your comment was unnecessarily rude. I didn't say anything offensive to you, I haven't berated you, I haven't harassed you. I don't deserve to be talked to that way.

  • Again the abscense of the word NOT in my post has been fixed take that as you will

    I openly dislike opinion-dictating liberals, that is true. But your statement that gays have to act like the stereotypical gay is way more int

  • edited January 2014

    I deleted this Ah so you do realize how stupid it sounded Maybe Christians CAN learn

  • Let me just be very clear about one thing here:

    I dont't have a hate of God

    I have a hate towards organized religion and more accurately Judo-Christian religions that tell you how you should interpret God

    I realize very little of this matters but I thought at least one christian should know why i hate their religion

    Me laughing at you

  • Wha-... What are you talking about? I haven't even spoke to you before!

    Let me just be very clear about one thing here: I dont't have a hate of God I have a hate towards organized religion and more accurately

  • Yah im just talking Philosophical BS at this point disregard that last comment

    Wha-... What are you talking about? I haven't even spoke to you before!

    1. It was a joke ya wangus
    2. You have no idea what you're talking about, brain-for-brains, it's an ableist slur that targets people with autism and other such neurodivergent people and your flippant use of the term is horrible
    3. OK fine make jokes about yourself but I'm also suicidal so maybe don't joke about that to people you don't know
    4. You're right, how dare I try and feel safe on the Internet, I'll just leave forever now (PSYCH!)
    5. Are you not noticing the like 37 insults in that image Holy Moly
    6. That's not what that stands for and it's been made clear to me by a multitude of black people that if you are not black then you shouldn't use it soooooo
    7. [Farts, defecates]

    * I never got such a piece of paper, they don't teach something like that in my school. * Aetarded is an insult for people who act very stupi

  • No, I think that gay characters are only accepted by the modern liberals playing this game if they act "gay". You don't know whether one character is gay or not and in this kind of game it doesn't even matter, because it is not about sexual relationships but about a little girl trying to survive in a zombie world.

    I forgot my NOT there, apologies But lets remember that your the one who seems to think that gay characters can only be gay if they are super hyperlized effeminate homosexuals

  • Honestly, in terms of realism, if a ZA ever happened, I really wonder if people would unite or turn on each other more. In other words, if a zombie apocalipse was to happen, would racism/homophobia/sexist behaviors be even more obvious and prone to happen? Perhaps that is why TTG hasn’t yet explored the subject. Maybe one of the characters we know is gay and we will find out in the future. Maybe not. Maybe they’re just trying not to get devoured. Maybe survival has become the focus point and not sex/love/friendship even.

    These are yet quite unexplored topics by TTG in terms of the theme of the game. One of the most obtuse things we’ve heard was Kenny saying Lee was “urban”. However, as someone who has played the game more than once, I can say the first time Kenny was a really awesome character and when I played the game for the second time around differently, I found him to be selfish and prejudicial.

    In all honesty, I loved the first season and I am very much looking forward to season two. I don’t know if any of the issues above will be explored. But I am sure the game will still be interesting and just as engaging as season 1.

    In conclusion, I’ll put it this way: If Clementine hooks up with a boy or a girl at some point in the game and her partner (or her, for that matter) dies - I’ll sob just as hard.

  • Wow your a stupider Conservative than I thought.......

    * I never got such a piece of paper, they don't teach something like that in my school. * Aetarded is an insult for people who act very stupi

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