That's very true. We know definitely that Kenny likes to be in charge, and Bonnie did say that Luke even butted heads with Carver over how things should be run. They both got their pros and cons in terms of their leadership abilities. I do hope they learn to get along and work together because they would make an awesome team.
Carver got one thing right. Clementine would make a strong and wonderful leader and I would follow her over Luke and Kenny any day. Even if she is only 11.
The one thing that both Kenny and Luke suffer from is need to dominate. Maybe Clem will be the thing to make them change their perspective for this girl!
Ack, I just noticed the developing part (I was quick reading). But this was a really good theory!
I like both Luke and Kenny, and choosing between them will really affect who Clementine will be. Though, I don't think telltale will make you choose between those two like the Carley and Doug situation, I think it will be "which side you are more on/siding with". For example, choosing between the two dinner tables, and that one part where the others (Kenny, Luke, and Nick) are having a talk-fight at the dinner table and you have the chance to say "Kenny, stop", "Luke, listen to him!", "Please, don't fight!", and "...". If you choose the first option, you are siding with Luke, Kenny for the second option, probably neutral for the third one, and I-don't know for the last option.
This means your choices will impact the story, and I find that interesting. Hopefully telltale will do it that way.
Yeah, I think "Transformation" can be applied to moths as well, and the game is about how Clem is transforming and changing. That's what I'… morem trying to get at here. I believe Kenny and Luke will be vital to Clementine's further (I say further because her time with Lee and Christa definitely changed her) transformation from child to survivor. They affect her and represent different ways she could change.
Well, you can shoot him yourself, but only if you didn't save Alvin in episode 2, but you just graze him.
I understand the urge to get … morerevenge on Carver after everything he has done, and it feels great at first, but afterwards it just leaves a bad aftertaste in your mouth, because it kind of shows that you are no better than he is.
I'd go with Kenny, sure it wouldn't last long but it would be a hell of a ride. As the saying goes
My candle burns at both ends, it will not last the night
But ah my foes, and oh my friends, it gives a lovely light
It's pretty clear that Kenny is protecting Clementine at all costs, he almost died for her in the walkie talkie's situation, and that's not the only example of him protecting her.
So I don't see Kenny being a danger to her life. To me, Kenny still is the best replacement for Lee in terms of protection.
If it hadn't been for Jane and Clementine chiming in about the walker blood camo, Kenny's plan would not have worked at all. Luke's plan had a bit more logic to it and caution. He was trying to get more intel. And he wasn't "going rogue" or trying to rescue the group by himself, he did enlist Clementine and the others to help too. The only reason it didn't work is because he got caught trying to steal food, and I don't blame him for that because the dude spent the past few days with a lack of food and sleep. I will admit that it did indirectly lead to Kenny losing his eye, but it is Carver who ultimately did that. And imo, Bonnie wouldn't have changed her mind had they decided to wait one more night. She looked very determined to leave.
I don't mind Kenny killing Carver. I do mind how he did it and how it affects Clem and Sarita too.
It's not weak to be considerate of a person's life, even a person as evil as Carver. It shows that you're not on the path to becoming a monster. And that's what I'm afraid Kenny will become if he keeps going down that road. I don't want him taking Clem down that way either.
Yea, I'm still with Kenny. Eventhough it may have been Jane's idea to use walker blood, it shows that Kenny had the right plan, it just need… moreed to be tweeked and improved upon. Imo thats how a sound group works. Come up with a plan that works and then improve upon it till it is solid. It sure don't work when you've got one guy going rogue, coming up with a failed plan, and trying to rescue the group by himself. Btw, the reason Kenny and Luke were "beat to shit" is again because of Luke's failed plan. I also wouldn't have wanted to wait around and given Bonnie (who is a headcase imo) a chance to "rest on it" and change her mind.
While you may question his morality, I had absolutely zero problems with what Kenny did to Carver. I'm sure Alvin and the other ghost of characters that Carver killed were probably cheering him on.
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The moth motif being applied for this chapter makes me think Carver represents fire (not fire born). Both his affair with Rebecca and the way he recruits members can be seen as metaphors for a 'moth to the flame'. Though the most obvious connection for me lies with how he tries to bring Clem over to his way of thinking. With that in mind, Mr. Fire Born may actually be better off mentally from this incident than Clem, barring any brain damage of course. As to the light, I don't know about anyone else but my experience has been that moths keep bouncing against it until they die or draw unfortunate attention to themselves and get whacked. So the end result is still the same as with fire. I think it's a mistake to try and differentiate between the light and fire in this case as the phenomena seems to come down to confusion from the moth (which sort of fits Clem's possible future dilemma).
This is just my opinion, but I don't think Kenny actually 'enjoyed' doing what he did to Carver. Don't get me wrong it was brutal, and Kenny definitely did it to get some revenge and take out stress on him, but he didn't look like he was enjoying it. He put a bad man down and took some evil away from the world they live in. I watched Carver have his face beat in, not for some reason like "Clem needed this to grow up." along with making sure nothing else could happen, I simply wanted to watch that piece of shit die after everything he did. About half way through it, I thought "Holy shit... I'm watching a dude have his face beat in with a crowbar." and had to look away.
That's a tough choice... Kenny was my bro, but I love Luke... If I could, I'd have all 3 of them together as Clementine balances them both out, you can see their teamwork when they disarm Carver. I think I'd have to go with Kenny, to make sure he doesn't go off the rails any more than he has, that is if I can't bring him back from the darkness before I have to choose.
Hey, if You say that Luke is the "humane one", than why did he even mentioned the idea to "leave some folks behind". This isn't humane for me...
Kenny had killed Carver, because Carver was a cold blood killer and he got what he deserved. You have to fight injustice with justice, and I'm sure that was the appropriate punishment. Look at all those innocent he had killed: Walter, Alvin, Reggie and probably lots of others before we met him.
I don't know is Kenny the "dark" site, but I'm perfectly sure he would do everything to protect other people, especially the beloved ones.
Don't forget about his huge loss of Katjaa and Duck. He is a strong man and he had survived it all, but it left him a very big and unfixable mark on him, so you can't blame him for his emotions. Im sure Clem is the most important person for him, even more than Sarita, and he will give away his own life to save her, so please don't tell me he will bring her to her death. He get beaten nearly to death just to save Clem. Luke won't do that.
I think Clementine should stay with the person she can 100% trust. A strong and loving protector, it's all she needs. And Kenny fits all these terms.
I like Luke very much, but I think Kenny's sacriface showed us he's our guardian for life, and he is the man we should follow. I'm after him 100%. Sorry Luke.
I'm sad that Carlos died, because he was my second favorite character after Kenny. When he got his fingers breaked by Carver, all he wanted was to keep Sarah calm and ensure her everything will be OK. He was a great father, that's for sure. And in the third episode he had to beat Sarah, because in the other way she would've beaten by Troy, and he will do it a way stronger. I love his concept as a ideal parent, though I hated him in the Ep1 when he had left Clem in this shed. But later I realised he did it all to protect Sarah - to don't get a repetition from the situation with Nick's mother.
Please don't name Kenny a "dark site", because he is a very good man. He's only too rash, and make his decisions too fast. Carver got what he deserved, and unfortunately Kenny was the one who had to do that.
As Lee I didn't kill brothers on the dairy farm, but I couldn't spare another monster's live. How many innocent would Carver kill if he would save his neck from the herd situation.
I didn't like all the beating with a crowbar stuff, but one quick bullet in the head would've do just fine.
Everything what I have written its only MHO, so feel free to present Your contrarguments below.
He is a good man. Kenny has my utmost respect for taking that beating for Clem, for losing an eye for Clem. Lee would be proud. It's completely understandable that he is swayed by emotions, I think almost everyone would be in the apocalypse and even in every day life now.
Hey, if You say that Luke is the "humane one", than why did he even mentioned the idea to "leave some folks behind". This isn't humane for m… moree...
Kenny had killed Carver, because Carver was a cold blood killer and he got what he deserved. You have to fight injustice with justice, and I'm sure that was the appropriate punishment. Look at all those innocent he had killed: Walter, Alvin, Reggie and probably lots of others before we met him.
I don't know is Kenny the "dark" site, but I'm perfectly sure he would do everything to protect other people, especially the beloved ones.
Don't forget about his huge loss of Katjaa and Duck. He is a strong man and he had survived it all, but it left him a very big and unfixable mark on him, so you can't blame him for his emotions. Im sure Clem is the most important person for him, even more than Sarita, and he will give away his own life to save her, so please don't tell me he will bring her to… [view original content]
Oh, I don't doubt that Kenny will protect Clementine at all costs. I admire him for taking the blame for the walkie talkie. That was very heroic and brave and I love him for that. But I don't think he is the best replacement for Lee.
Kenny is unpredictable. He is rash and impulsive and emotional, quick to anger and sometimes just damn unreasonable. A lot of the time, he shows a lack of regard about consequences and that is very dangerous, not only to Clem and the group but to himself as well. It goes back to that comparison to fire that I made. Like a fire he can be both helpful (providing light and warmth and protection) but also hurtful (burning out of control).
It's pretty clear that Kenny is protecting Clementine at all costs, he almost died for her in the walkie talkie's situation, and that's not … morethe only example of him protecting her.
So I don't see Kenny being a danger to her life. To me, Kenny still is the best replacement for Lee in terms of protection.
Carver was a bad person who killed a lot of good people. Killing him isn't bad, it's making sure that he could never hurt anyone ever again. Carver had to die, or he would have kept chasing the group to hell and back before he finally did die, or he managed to kill them all. The extreme makeover he got, courtesy of Kenny and his crowbar was a bit cold, but ultimately it served more good than simply leaving him there ever would.
Well, you can shoot him yourself, but only if you didn't save Alvin in episode 2, but you just graze him.
I understand the urge to get … morerevenge on Carver after everything he has done, and it feels great at first, but afterwards it just leaves a bad aftertaste in your mouth, because it kind of shows that you are no better than he is.
Yeah, the moth to a flame thing can be applied to Carver and the community members. But you can't deny that Kenny has a fiery sort of manner to him.
As for the moth and light, have you ever seen the show called LOST? In the first season two characters get trapped in a cavein and can't get out. They're losing oxygen but then one sees a moth and it flies towards the light through the cracks and they're able to follow it and find a way out. That's the kind of symbolism and meaning I'm trying to get at with the whole moth thing.
The moth motif being applied for this chapter makes me think Carver represents fire (not fire born). Both his affair with Rebecca and the wa… morey he recruits members can be seen as metaphors for a 'moth to the flame'. Though the most obvious connection for me lies with how he tries to bring Clem over to his way of thinking. With that in mind, Mr. Fire Born may actually be better off mentally from this incident than Clem, barring any brain damage of course. As to the light, I don't know about anyone else but my experience has been that moths keep bouncing against it until they die or draw unfortunate attention to themselves and get whacked. So the end result is still the same as with fire. I think it's a mistake to try and differentiate between the light and fire in this case as the phenomena seems to come down to confusion from the moth (which sort of fits Clem's possible future dilemma).
This is what I'm trying to say, you've said it perfectly. Killing Carver was for the greater good, it's just how it was done was cold and I like that Luke was the one to recognize that it was. I would totally call him out if he actually managed to convince people to spare Carver, but I do like that he recognized that it was brutal.
Carver was a bad person who killed a lot of good people. Killing him isn't bad, it's making sure that he could never hurt anyone ever again.… more Carver had to die, or he would have kept chasing the group to hell and back before he finally did die, or he managed to kill them all. The extreme makeover he got, courtesy of Kenny and his crowbar was a bit cold, but ultimately it served more good than simply leaving him there ever would.
It's pretty clear that Kenny is protecting Clementine at all costs, he almost died for her in the walkie talkie's situation, and that's not … morethe only example of him protecting her.
So I don't see Kenny being a danger to her life. To me, Kenny still is the best replacement for Lee in terms of protection.
Well, remember that tweet that Job sent out a while ago mentioning the pizza and ice cream situation for Ep.5?
My thinking is that the pizza and ice cream represent both Luke and Kenny. They're both great and you would have both of them if you could. But in the end you can only choose one.
And that's what scares me. Maybe at the end of all this we won't have both Luke AND Kenny.
Luke didn't want to leave anyone behind. He advocated that they stay one more night to rest up and regain their strength, but everyone was all "We have to leave tonight!" Then Luke responds that if they have to leave that night, then they would have to, realistically, leave people behind. It was a really "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't" moment for Luke, and I think people are a little unfair to him in this moment. It was all moot either way, because Kenny got up afterwards.
I'm not saying that Kenny is the "dark side." I've said that he's a source of light. I'm arguing that he's a destructive source of light, like fire. I know he's a good man deep down, but good people can still get other people killed. Look at Ben. He was a good kid, but he still got a lot of people killed.
And who's to say that Luke wouldn't take a beating for Clementine? That Clem doesn't trust him or that he can't be a strong and loving protector? Luke can fill that role just as easily. Hell, any of the group could fill that role. It's not just Kenny.
Hey, if You say that Luke is the "humane one", than why did he even mentioned the idea to "leave some folks behind". This isn't humane for m… moree...
Kenny had killed Carver, because Carver was a cold blood killer and he got what he deserved. You have to fight injustice with justice, and I'm sure that was the appropriate punishment. Look at all those innocent he had killed: Walter, Alvin, Reggie and probably lots of others before we met him.
I don't know is Kenny the "dark" site, but I'm perfectly sure he would do everything to protect other people, especially the beloved ones.
Don't forget about his huge loss of Katjaa and Duck. He is a strong man and he had survived it all, but it left him a very big and unfixable mark on him, so you can't blame him for his emotions. Im sure Clem is the most important person for him, even more than Sarita, and he will give away his own life to save her, so please don't tell me he will bring her to… [view original content]
That's very true. We know definitely that Kenny likes to be in charge, and Bonnie did say that Luke even butted heads with Carver over how … morethings should be run. They both got their pros and cons in terms of their leadership abilities. I do hope they learn to get along and work together because they would make an awesome team.
Carver got one thing right. Clementine would make a strong and wonderful leader and I would follow her over Luke and Kenny any day. Even if she is only 11.
Man, I wanted to write something like this. But you beat me to it! Though, it's kinda different.
One of the symbolism for butterflies w… moreas "transformation" (I'm not sure if moths also has this symbolism, but considering they also have metamorphosis, maybe.). I thought it represents Clementine - how she changes overtime, how she isn't the innocent and naive Clementine in season 1.
I'm not sure if telltale decided to put the moth intentionally, or not. Either way this is something worth discussing.
Yeah, I think "Transformation" can be applied to moths as well, and the game is about how Clem is transforming and changing. That's what I'… morem trying to get at here. I believe Kenny and Luke will be vital to Clementine's further (I say further because her time with Lee and Christa definitely changed her) transformation from child to survivor. They affect her and represent different ways she could change.
Well, remember that tweet that Job sent out a while ago mentioning the pizza and ice cream situation for Ep.5?
My thinking is that the … morepizza and ice cream represent both Luke and Kenny. They're both great and you would have both of them if you could. But in the end you can only choose one.
And that's what scares me. Maybe at the end of all this we won't have both Luke AND Kenny.
Yeah, we all now that Kenny it's not the same from s1, it's clear that he's losing it a bit.
All right, I'm going to share my thoughts about Kenny: In the first part of season 1 he used to be a man that thinks before he act, Kenny had a lot of plans figured out on his mind, and most of the time he was right ( Like the leaving the motel's situation, they didn't and people got killed ).
But in episode 4 right after his family got killed, he felt guilty about it, like all the things he had done to protect his family wasn't enough, he figured out that the world has changed, and sometimes accepting other people's opinion wasn't gainful. So he went selfish, he would do whatever he wanted to do without thinking about people that he doesn't care about, on his perspective he doesn't wanted to fail anymore, and that's the beginning of the Kenny that we see in season 2. But at the end of episode 5 he realized that this selfish philosophy wasn't leading him anywhere, that justifies his heroism when he almost gave his life for someone that he doesn't cared about.
But in season 2, the fact of him being alone for months with a lot of thoughts on his head, made him start losing it, switching between the selfish Kenny's atitude(episode 4) and the loyal Kenny's atitude(episode 5), all of the time, making him a mentally unstable man at sometimes.
I hope In harm's way's events made our old Kenny come back, as he seems to be fitting in the group now, Kenny and Luke kind had a cop-op moment at the end of the episode and in the trailer Kenny seems to be helping Rebecca with the baby thing.
Oh, I don't doubt that Kenny will protect Clementine at all costs. I admire him for taking the blame for the walkie talkie. That was very h… moreeroic and brave and I love him for that. But I don't think he is the best replacement for Lee.
Kenny is unpredictable. He is rash and impulsive and emotional, quick to anger and sometimes just damn unreasonable. A lot of the time, he shows a lack of regard about consequences and that is very dangerous, not only to Clem and the group but to himself as well. It goes back to that comparison to fire that I made. Like a fire he can be both helpful (providing light and warmth and protection) but also hurtful (burning out of control).
Yeah, the moth to a flame thing can be applied to Carver and the community members. But you can't deny that Kenny has a fiery sort of manner… more to him.
As for the moth and light, have you ever seen the show called LOST? In the first season two characters get trapped in a cavein and can't get out. They're losing oxygen but then one sees a moth and it flies towards the light through the cracks and they're able to follow it and find a way out. That's the kind of symbolism and meaning I'm trying to get at with the whole moth thing.
You have a point. I can't disagree with the fact that Kenny is one crazy motherfucker and he does take action way to fast, I can't say I don't do the same thing and I can't deny that I agree with him on most cases and we both participate in these after affects. Kenny may burn like a fire but y'know what else burns like a fire? Friendship and loyalty. I'd follow this man to hell and back, not because I'm an ass kisser, far from it. It's because he's always been there for my Lee and Clem. We've had his back and he's had ours. If being with Kenny is a killer choice I'm afraid it's the one I'm going to take. I haven't warmed up to Luke at all really, but Kenny and I go way back.
I'm glad the ol' bastard is back and I don't plan and leaving him, especially with Sarita in this condition.
Kenny, from my point of view, wouldn't put Clem in danger, he worries about her. For example when Carver hits you when you keep staring at him. “The hell did he do to you? Hey! Did he hurt you? Hey! Hey!” When the walkers break through the window and he sees Clem he says “Oh, thank God, you're okay.”
You have a point. I can't disagree with the fact that Kenny is one crazy motherfucker and he does take action way to fast, I can't say I don… more't do the same thing and I can't deny that I agree with him on most cases and we both participate in these after affects. Kenny may burn like a fire but y'know what else burns like a fire? Friendship and loyalty. I'd follow this man to hell and back, not because I'm an ass kisser, far from it. It's because he's always been there for my Lee and Clem. We've had his back and he's had ours. If being with Kenny is a killer choice I'm afraid it's the one I'm going to take. I haven't warmed up to Luke at all really, but Kenny and I go way back.
I'm glad the ol' bastard is back and I don't plan and leaving him, especially with Sarita in this condition.
If it hadn't been for Jane and Clementine chiming in about the walker blood camo, Kenny's plan would not have worked at all. Luke's plan had… more a bit more logic to it and caution. He was trying to get more intel. And he wasn't "going rogue" or trying to rescue the group by himself, he did enlist Clementine and the others to help too. The only reason it didn't work is because he got caught trying to steal food, and I don't blame him for that because the dude spent the past few days with a lack of food and sleep. I will admit that it did indirectly lead to Kenny losing his eye, but it is Carver who ultimately did that. And imo, Bonnie wouldn't have changed her mind had they decided to wait one more night. She looked very determined to leave.
I don't mind Kenny killing Carver. I do mind how he did it and how it affects Clem and Sarita too.
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Exactly how I felt with the St. Johns. I put them down with no regrets because I knew for sure afterwards no one would suffer at their hands. I and my Clem would have done what Kenny did if given the choice.
Carver was a bad person who killed a lot of good people. Killing him isn't bad, it's making sure that he could never hurt anyone ever again.… more Carver had to die, or he would have kept chasing the group to hell and back before he finally did die, or he managed to kill them all. The extreme makeover he got, courtesy of Kenny and his crowbar was a bit cold, but ultimately it served more good than simply leaving him there ever would.
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Carver got one thing right. Clementine would make a strong and wonderful leader and I would follow her over Luke and Kenny any day. Even if she is only 11.
I like both Luke and Kenny, and choosing between them will really affect who Clementine will be. Though, I don't think telltale will make you choose between those two like the Carley and Doug situation, I think it will be "which side you are more on/siding with". For example, choosing between the two dinner tables, and that one part where the others (Kenny, Luke, and Nick) are having a talk-fight at the dinner table and you have the chance to say "Kenny, stop", "Luke, listen to him!", "Please, don't fight!", and "...". If you choose the first option, you are siding with Luke, Kenny for the second option, probably neutral for the third one, and I-don't know for the last option.
This means your choices will impact the story, and I find that interesting. Hopefully telltale will do it that way.
My candle burns at both ends, it will not last the night
But ah my foes, and oh my friends, it gives a lovely light
So I don't see Kenny being a danger to her life. To me, Kenny still is the best replacement for Lee in terms of protection.
I don't mind Kenny killing Carver. I do mind how he did it and how it affects Clem and Sarita too.
It's not weak to be considerate of a person's life, even a person as evil as Carver. It shows that you're not on the path to becoming a monster. And that's what I'm afraid Kenny will become if he keeps going down that road. I don't want him taking Clem down that way either.
That's a tough choice... Kenny was my bro, but I love Luke... If I could, I'd have all 3 of them together as Clementine balances them both out, you can see their teamwork when they disarm Carver. I think I'd have to go with Kenny, to make sure he doesn't go off the rails any more than he has, that is if I can't bring him back from the darkness before I have to choose.
Kenny had killed Carver, because Carver was a cold blood killer and he got what he deserved. You have to fight injustice with justice, and I'm sure that was the appropriate punishment. Look at all those innocent he had killed: Walter, Alvin, Reggie and probably lots of others before we met him.
I don't know is Kenny the "dark" site, but I'm perfectly sure he would do everything to protect other people, especially the beloved ones.
Don't forget about his huge loss of Katjaa and Duck. He is a strong man and he had survived it all, but it left him a very big and unfixable mark on him, so you can't blame him for his emotions. Im sure Clem is the most important person for him, even more than Sarita, and he will give away his own life to save her, so please don't tell me he will bring her to her death. He get beaten nearly to death just to save Clem. Luke won't do that.
I think Clementine should stay with the person she can 100% trust. A strong and loving protector, it's all she needs. And Kenny fits all these terms.
I like Luke very much, but I think Kenny's sacriface showed us he's our guardian for life, and he is the man we should follow. I'm after him 100%. Sorry Luke.
I'm sad that Carlos died, because he was my second favorite character after Kenny. When he got his fingers breaked by Carver, all he wanted was to keep Sarah calm and ensure her everything will be OK. He was a great father, that's for sure. And in the third episode he had to beat Sarah, because in the other way she would've beaten by Troy, and he will do it a way stronger. I love his concept as a ideal parent, though I hated him in the Ep1 when he had left Clem in this shed. But later I realised he did it all to protect Sarah - to don't get a repetition from the situation with Nick's mother.
Please don't name Kenny a "dark site", because he is a very good man. He's only too rash, and make his decisions too fast. Carver got what he deserved, and unfortunately Kenny was the one who had to do that.
As Lee I didn't kill brothers on the dairy farm, but I couldn't spare another monster's live. How many innocent would Carver kill if he would save his neck from the herd situation.
I didn't like all the beating with a crowbar stuff, but one quick bullet in the head would've do just fine.
Everything what I have written its only MHO, so feel free to present Your contrarguments below.
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Kenny is unpredictable. He is rash and impulsive and emotional, quick to anger and sometimes just damn unreasonable. A lot of the time, he shows a lack of regard about consequences and that is very dangerous, not only to Clem and the group but to himself as well. It goes back to that comparison to fire that I made. Like a fire he can be both helpful (providing light and warmth and protection) but also hurtful (burning out of control).
As for the moth and light, have you ever seen the show called LOST? In the first season two characters get trapped in a cavein and can't get out. They're losing oxygen but then one sees a moth and it flies towards the light through the cracks and they're able to follow it and find a way out. That's the kind of symbolism and meaning I'm trying to get at with the whole moth thing.
My thinking is that the pizza and ice cream represent both Luke and Kenny. They're both great and you would have both of them if you could. But in the end you can only choose one.
And that's what scares me. Maybe at the end of all this we won't have both Luke AND Kenny.
I'm not saying that Kenny is the "dark side." I've said that he's a source of light. I'm arguing that he's a destructive source of light, like fire. I know he's a good man deep down, but good people can still get other people killed. Look at Ben. He was a good kid, but he still got a lot of people killed.
And who's to say that Luke wouldn't take a beating for Clementine? That Clem doesn't trust him or that he can't be a strong and loving protector? Luke can fill that role just as easily. Hell, any of the group could fill that role. It's not just Kenny.
Hell yeah, Clem would be a more just leader than anyone with the crap she's experienced!
All right, I'm going to share my thoughts about Kenny: In the first part of season 1 he used to be a man that thinks before he act, Kenny had a lot of plans figured out on his mind, and most of the time he was right ( Like the leaving the motel's situation, they didn't and people got killed ).
But in episode 4 right after his family got killed, he felt guilty about it, like all the things he had done to protect his family wasn't enough, he figured out that the world has changed, and sometimes accepting other people's opinion wasn't gainful. So he went selfish, he would do whatever he wanted to do without thinking about people that he doesn't care about, on his perspective he doesn't wanted to fail anymore, and that's the beginning of the Kenny that we see in season 2. But at the end of episode 5 he realized that this selfish philosophy wasn't leading him anywhere, that justifies his heroism when he almost gave his life for someone that he doesn't cared about.
But in season 2, the fact of him being alone for months with a lot of thoughts on his head, made him start losing it, switching between the selfish Kenny's atitude(episode 4) and the loyal Kenny's atitude(episode 5), all of the time, making him a mentally unstable man at sometimes.
I hope In harm's way's events made our old Kenny come back, as he seems to be fitting in the group now, Kenny and Luke kind had a cop-op moment at the end of the episode and in the trailer Kenny seems to be helping Rebecca with the baby thing.
I'm glad the ol' bastard is back and I don't plan and leaving him, especially with Sarita in this condition.
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