if the fight was set up like the end fight of episode 3 then yes. you know you can walk up and move some items to stop bullets. Bigby will survive but it depends on the player's reaction time. fighting all those people at the same time is going to be hard. if you can line up some objects to throw to get some of the characters out of the way while you go for the crooked man then you might able to turn him to the office. otherwise there might just be a talk and the fight happen at another time in the episode.
Politicial whata what? You said a man should never hit a woman, yes Woody shouldn't of hit her but if it was a man her size it would be okay, well... if she did something bad that is.
So stating the obvious truth that Woodsman is stronger than Faith is stereotyping. Right...
I am stereotyping and degrading women by saying… more that a 250lbs and 6.4ft (at least) guy is stronger than a much smaller and slender woman. Don't give me that quasi-political-correct bullshit, I'm sick to death of it.
Besides, the point should not be about who is stronger, the man should not get in a fight with woman for the simple reason of the basic civil behavior, a gentleman's code if you want, of not hitting a woman unless it's unavoidable.
Lets put it this way, if woman insults you and you give her just a verbal response instead of breaking her teeth with your fist (which would be a response to a man) it somehow disrespects her? Is that what you're getting at?
And I never said that women are weak by default, I don't know where did you get that, I happen to have some very athletic and strong female friends which I would never fight for two… [view original content]
There not going to be a fight well that's what I think, even if there was Bigby will die in his condition he die instantly. The crocked man probably has a silver bullet like Bloody Mary. So yea I think they wont have a fight
I was referring to the trend of 21st century regarding "political correctness" to the point of absurdity. I admit that it wasn't a necessary part of my reply and It isn't really of any further relevance to this conversation.
So you agree with my first point about stronger hitting a weaker. I'm glad. We can actually draw a parallel with Bluebeard hitting Flycatcher or Dum hitting Toad, which would've equally pissed me off (well not really about the Toad since he is kind of a dick) as the scene with Woodsman and Faith if it weren't for another thing that made the scene with Woodsman and Faith worse:
Woodsman is a man and Faith is a woman. Yes, I do find that to be very important and I disagree with you that a man her size hitting her would be okay. I mean, please define what you mean by "something bad". Don't think that I am advocating forgiving a woman whatever she did and letting her pass with that, far from it... but there ought to be different rules of handling the situation with a man and handling it with a woman, physical confrontation due to disagreement is much more acceptable with a man than with a woman. It can only be justified in self-defense, and in that case and only that case it is acceptable to hit her, as I already stated couple of posts ago.
I actually had a situation once when some drunk chick with entire catalogue of traumas, complexes and problems (her boyfriend regularly beating her and drugs being just two of them) attacked me with a knife. Since I didn't want to end up like a shish-kebab I slapped her hard enough for her to fall to the ground. I didn't feel any remorse afterward, since it was a self-defense. I must add that if it were a guy I would most probably also kick him few times to break his ribs, since I am not at least forgiving when someone attacks me with intention to severely wound or kill me. But, her being already on the ground and not a threat anymore I simply took the knife so she wouldn't take it again and turned.
It is the fine line I am talking about and nothing else.
By the way, sorry for such a long post, I honestly tried to keep it as short as possible.
Politicial whata what? You said a man should never hit a woman, yes Woody shouldn't of hit her but if it was a man her size it would be okay, well... if she did something bad that is.
Bigby would smell silver in Crooked Man's lair. Only Bloody Mary has silver bullets. Bigby will not die since after a few days or weeks he's in France.
There not going to be a fight well that's what I think, even if there was Bigby will die in his condition he die instantly. The crocked man probably has a silver bullet like Bloody Mary. So yea I think they wont have a fight
Well, if there is an option to fight... I'd take it because CM is most likely to be responsible for the murders of Faith and Lily who were two innocent young women... and lets hope Bigby doesn't get shot with another silver bullet.
I think it's Beast who's the killer because doesn't he appear in murder scenes before or after they occur... also what if he killed the women because he knew they were prostitutes so he could have money due to financial issues, or he hired a personal hitman from the Crooked Man's Office and placing them on The Woodlands apartment steps to intimidate Bigby... What do you think?
I was referring to the trend of 21st century regarding "political correctness" to the point of absurdity. I admit that it wasn't a necessary… more part of my reply and It isn't really of any further relevance to this conversation.
So you agree with my first point about stronger hitting a weaker. I'm glad. We can actually draw a parallel with Bluebeard hitting Flycatcher or Dum hitting Toad, which would've equally pissed me off (well not really about the Toad since he is kind of a dick) as the scene with Woodsman and Faith if it weren't for another thing that made the scene with Woodsman and Faith worse:
Woodsman is a man and Faith is a woman. Yes, I do find that to be very important and I disagree with you that a man her size hitting her would be okay. I mean, please define what you mean by "something bad". Don't think that I am advocating forgiving a woman whatever she did and letting her pass with that, far from it... but there ought to be … [view original content]
I think it's Beast who's the killer because doesn't he appear in murder scenes before or after they occur... also what if he killed the wome… moren because he knew they were prostitutes so he could have money due to financial issues, or he hired a personal hitman from the Crooked Man's Office and placing them on The Woodlands apartment steps to intimidate Bigby... What do you think?
beast can be the killer because he appears in the hotel when bigby is about to investigate the dead body and he has sharp claws to rip the heads of body
Maybe Beast is the killer... IDK but he always seemed on the shady side for me... Considering he appears in the murder site before or after the murders, Hmmm... Who do you think the killer is?
if the fight was set up like the end fight of episode 3 then yes. you know you can walk up and move some items to stop bullets. Bigby will s… moreurvive but it depends on the player's reaction time. fighting all those people at the same time is going to be hard. if you can line up some objects to throw to get some of the characters out of the way while you go for the crooked man then you might able to turn him to the office. otherwise there might just be a talk and the fight happen at another time in the episode.
There not going to be a fight well that's what I think, even if there was Bigby will die in his condition he die instantly. The crocked man probably has a silver bullet like Bloody Mary. So yea I think they wont have a fight
Well, if there is an option to fight... I'd take it because CM is most likely to be responsible for the murders of Faith and Lily who were two innocent young women... and lets hope Bigby doesn't get shot with another silver bullet.
Or he could've been using the prostitutes and he didn't want Beauty to find out. He's already lied to her about drinking and it's implied that he's lying about more. Maybe, they're not as devoted to each other as they seem.
I think it's Beast who's the killer because doesn't he appear in murder scenes before or after they occur... also what if he killed the wome… moren because he knew they were prostitutes so he could have money due to financial issues, or he hired a personal hitman from the Crooked Man's Office and placing them on The Woodlands apartment steps to intimidate Bigby... What do you think?
Or he could've been using the prostitutes and he didn't want Beauty to find out. He's already lied to her about drinking and it's implied that he's lying about more. Maybe, they're not as devoted to each other as they seem.
If Beast was delivering thannngs to the CM... Wouldn't he be affiliated in murdering them since he might be working with the CM.
My suspects: Likely to unlikely.
Beast: Likely.
Bluebeard: Seems very... Suspicious, always leaving when Snow/ Bigby starts a good discussion.
Jersey-Possibly
Crooked man- Ordered the murders
Dee: Very low chance (I killed Dum)
Bloody Mary: Too predictable
Snow?!- I think she might be affiliated with somethang in the murders... Remember Bigby looked like he was looking madly for her in that room/Chamber... I could be wrong.
Something feels fishy...
If Beast was delivering thannngs to the CM... Wouldn't he be affiliated in murdering them since he might be wor… moreking with the CM.
My suspects: Likely to unlikely.
Beast: Likely.
Bluebeard: Seems very... Suspicious, always leaving when Snow/ Bigby starts a good discussion.
Jersey-Possibly
Crooked man- Ordered the murders
Dee: Very low chance (I killed Dum)
Bloody Mary: Too predictable
Snow?!- I think she might be affiliated with somethang in the murders... Remember Bigby looked like he was looking madly for her in that room/Chamber... I could be wrong.
Woody: Susceptible but too predictable.
There will be no fight because crooked wants to talk. He is not the killer. The killer is that red-hired taxi driver who lives in bigby's apt bldg and pops up briefly or walks past in all the scenes.
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There will be no fight because crooked wants to talk. He is not the killer. The killer is that red-hired taxi driver who lives in bigby's apt bldg and pops up briefly or walks past in all the scenes.
Hollow point is a type of bullet, not a type of buckshot. Mary fired a hollow point silver bullet.
Hollow points expand as they fly through the air. This is why they are common for home defense, as they have less penetrating power (less likely to make it through walls, depending on caliber, load, distance travelled) which means when you shoot an attacker, the bullet won't go through him, the wall, and into your neighbor's house. However, this is also why they are banned by the Geneva Convention for use in warfare, as the expanded bullet is still spinning on impact and shreds as in enters soft tissue, doing more damage.
Dee & Dum shot hollow points of lead aka buckshots aka pellets. It is the fact that it was silver, and the reaction ain't visible. Bigby also tells Goldilocks that only silver can kill him in the comics.
The pimp wouldn't be a problem. Bigby already busted up his store without consequence. The other tweedle is dead, and it appears they rely on guns anyway. The Jersey Devil would be an issue for sure, but Bigby already busted him up once.
The problem is, Bigby is already severely hurt, and it seems that the Crooked Man has access to silver bullets.
I honestly feel that Bigby wouldn't be able to handle them because of his injury from Bloody Mary, and the fact that Bloody Mary is there.
No way. Obviously Bigby is the strongest fable but Mary is right up there, and everyone else has guns/ weapons that clearly slow down bigby significantly. Plus, he's not 100% as it is. He would be dead within a matter of seconds if things got ugly. Need to play mind games in the room.
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if the fight was set up like the end fight of episode 3 then yes. you know you can walk up and move some items to stop bullets. Bigby will survive but it depends on the player's reaction time. fighting all those people at the same time is going to be hard. if you can line up some objects to throw to get some of the characters out of the way while you go for the crooked man then you might able to turn him to the office. otherwise there might just be a talk and the fight happen at another time in the episode.
Politicial whata what? You said a man should never hit a woman, yes Woody shouldn't of hit her but if it was a man her size it would be okay, well... if she did something bad that is.
There not going to be a fight well that's what I think, even if there was Bigby will die in his condition he die instantly. The crocked man probably has a silver bullet like Bloody Mary. So yea I think they wont have a fight
I was referring to the trend of 21st century regarding "political correctness" to the point of absurdity. I admit that it wasn't a necessary part of my reply and It isn't really of any further relevance to this conversation.
So you agree with my first point about stronger hitting a weaker. I'm glad. We can actually draw a parallel with Bluebeard hitting Flycatcher or Dum hitting Toad, which would've equally pissed me off (well not really about the Toad since he is kind of a dick) as the scene with Woodsman and Faith if it weren't for another thing that made the scene with Woodsman and Faith worse:
Woodsman is a man and Faith is a woman. Yes, I do find that to be very important and I disagree with you that a man her size hitting her would be okay. I mean, please define what you mean by "something bad". Don't think that I am advocating forgiving a woman whatever she did and letting her pass with that, far from it... but there ought to be different rules of handling the situation with a man and handling it with a woman, physical confrontation due to disagreement is much more acceptable with a man than with a woman. It can only be justified in self-defense, and in that case and only that case it is acceptable to hit her, as I already stated couple of posts ago.
I actually had a situation once when some drunk chick with entire catalogue of traumas, complexes and problems (her boyfriend regularly beating her and drugs being just two of them) attacked me with a knife. Since I didn't want to end up like a shish-kebab I slapped her hard enough for her to fall to the ground. I didn't feel any remorse afterward, since it was a self-defense. I must add that if it were a guy I would most probably also kick him few times to break his ribs, since I am not at least forgiving when someone attacks me with intention to severely wound or kill me. But, her being already on the ground and not a threat anymore I simply took the knife so she wouldn't take it again and turned.
It is the fine line I am talking about and nothing else.
By the way, sorry for such a long post, I honestly tried to keep it as short as possible.
Spoiler alert : In the borderlands, Mary breaks Bigby's arm.
Bigby would smell silver in Crooked Man's lair. Only Bloody Mary has silver bullets. Bigby will not die since after a few days or weeks he's in France.
Well, if there is an option to fight... I'd take it because CM is most likely to be responsible for the murders of Faith and Lily who were two innocent young women... and lets hope Bigby doesn't get shot with another silver bullet.
I think it's Beast who's the killer because doesn't he appear in murder scenes before or after they occur... also what if he killed the women because he knew they were prostitutes so he could have money due to financial issues, or he hired a personal hitman from the Crooked Man's Office and placing them on The Woodlands apartment steps to intimidate Bigby... What do you think?
your answer is very sensible
i know that he can't stand a chance against bigby
yeah you have a point too which can actually be true
beast can be the killer because he appears in the hotel when bigby is about to investigate the dead body and he has sharp claws to rip the heads of body
right
bigby won't die
these silver bullets must be banned
lol just a prediction
I am just giving a possible that's all.
The last one wasn't pretty... Bigby was really hurt and stunned.... let's hope he doesn't get shot again.
I think he might need to go to his Half wolf Half Human form to do this.
I will take your word for it, I haven't read the comics
Me neither.
Let's hope
Or he could've been using the prostitutes and he didn't want Beauty to find out. He's already lied to her about drinking and it's implied that he's lying about more. Maybe, they're not as devoted to each other as they seem.
Beast was definitely at work, either a package or to fix the phone. Beast is known to be an electrician, and he also carries packages to Crooky.
Something feels fishy...
If Beast was delivering thannngs to the CM... Wouldn't he be affiliated in murdering them since he might be working with the CM.
My suspects: Likely to unlikely.
Beast: Likely.
Bluebeard: Seems very... Suspicious, always leaving when Snow/ Bigby starts a good discussion.
Jersey-Possibly
Crooked man- Ordered the murders
Dee: Very low chance (I killed Dum)
Bloody Mary: Too predictable
Snow?!- I think she might be affiliated with somethang in the murders... Remember Bigby looked like he was looking madly for her in that room/Chamber... I could be wrong.
Woody: Susceptible but too predictable.
Beast is in the comics. As is Beauty.
Dee & Dum nowhere to be found
Same with Bloody Mary
Jersey is also nowhere to be seen
And we know the Crooked Man has no chance of being alive if he goes to trial and tribunal or resists arrest
There is no room for interpretation, but there is a room for mistakes, especially in episode 1 and 4 as you just showed.
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There will be no fight because crooked wants to talk. He is not the killer. The killer is that red-hired taxi driver who lives in bigby's apt bldg and pops up briefly or walks past in all the scenes.
He's a reused model you see 2 of him in episode 1
Oooh, right. Sorry, i'm being stupid. xD
I'm fine, thank you.
I don't think he has too. I can see the woodsmans, beast and maybe blue beard helping bigby out
thats good but bigby doesn't need any help
Hollow point is a type of bullet, not a type of buckshot. Mary fired a hollow point silver bullet.
Hollow points expand as they fly through the air. This is why they are common for home defense, as they have less penetrating power (less likely to make it through walls, depending on caliber, load, distance travelled) which means when you shoot an attacker, the bullet won't go through him, the wall, and into your neighbor's house. However, this is also why they are banned by the Geneva Convention for use in warfare, as the expanded bullet is still spinning on impact and shreds as in enters soft tissue, doing more damage.
The pimp wouldn't be a problem. Bigby already busted up his store without consequence. The other tweedle is dead, and it appears they rely on guns anyway. The Jersey Devil would be an issue for sure, but Bigby already busted him up once.
The problem is, Bigby is already severely hurt, and it seems that the Crooked Man has access to silver bullets.
I honestly feel that Bigby wouldn't be able to handle them because of his injury from Bloody Mary, and the fact that Bloody Mary is there.
No way. Obviously Bigby is the strongest fable but Mary is right up there, and everyone else has guns/ weapons that clearly slow down bigby significantly. Plus, he's not 100% as it is. He would be dead within a matter of seconds if things got ugly. Need to play mind games in the room.
from the new trailer its official that a brawl is going to be broken down