Intentional or not, I still found it narmy and cheesy. Although, I'll admit it's probably because it's meant to appeal to modern teens and such. I'm kinda old-fashioned, so that could be why.
That's irrelevant. At the time the gun was fired, Chris believed he was killing Ashley. Even under the circumstances, it's the intent that she would blame him for, not the retrospective result.
she knows that... Chris will 100% die if he stays there
Does she? Will he? She doesn't 100% know anything about what is going to happen. Maybe Chris finds the door locked, stands still, and the wendigo loses track of him, so he goes around to another door. Maybe this is all part of Josh's hoax. So she assumes Chris is going to die, but it turns out he's not in danger at all, just like she wasn't in danger of being shot. Hell, she's never even seen a wendigo before, and doesn't know anything about them. Maybe they're afraid of locked doors, for all she knows, and by locking this one she unintentionally scares it away and saves Chris's life. Unlikely, obviously, but my point is, don't deal in absolutes. You, the player, may retrospectively know Chris dies because she doesn't let him in, but for her it's still just an assumption.
Problem is, even if you decide to "kill" Josh instead of her and have high "approval" with her (so she would suggest that Chris should shoot her) she does that anyway.
Which is why I barely even recognise this turn of events as canon anyway. It doesn't really make sense. I don't blame Ashley for killing Chris, I blame the writers for poor writing and a misuse of the game mechanic. Literally all they needed to do is have Ashley just act uncomfortable and distant with Chris after he 'shot' her, and instead of waiting at the door for him to come back, she says she needs time alone to process what happened and goes down to the basement with others, meaning there's no-one there to let Chris back in quickly enough. Butterfly effect. Same result, without Ashley becoming vengeful out of nowhere.
Even the slightest, delusional threat and she goes nuts demanding us to kill her.
Maybe you should watch the scene again. Ashley has literally zero lines between Mike picking up the gun and shooting/not shooting Emily. She doesn't demand we kill anyone. She doesn't even consider it. The worst she does is tell Emily to get out, but that's not until after Mike has already told her to and decided he needs to force her out anyway. She's just afraid of her being in the safe room with them, and probably would have been happy with Emily being in the next room with a locked door between them. Not dead.
she's the cutest thing when everything is fine but horrible at handling stressful situations like that, she can only cry and panic.
Yeah, that doesn't make her a bad person, it makes her someone in a very stressful situation who suffers from an anxiety disorder. Like an actual recognised mental illness. She can't be blamed for that. She can't help it. Not everyone is capable of being brave or thinking clearly in a crisis. That's why she has Chris.
Whereas Mike seems to have some kind of hero complex. There's every chance they would have been fine if they'd just stayed in the safe room together like Sam said, but instead Mike feels like he needs to actively save everyone by doing the most dangerously vague thing he can think of, 'Find Josh somewhere, maybe in the mines that I've never even been in', just so that he can get the cable car key, a plan which turns out to be appropriately futile anyway. Then he doesn't even manage that on his own, but instead does another random solo quest in the sanatorium, despite that not being where Josh even is. Sure he's trying to help everyone in his own special macho way, but he's really just being a moron (Of course, Sam doesn't do much better by following him, but I guess the game wasn't finished with her yet). Now that doesn't make him a bad person either, but he's not worse than Ashley.
Yeah well it's one way to look at it. Another being "oh shit oh crap what have I done I screwed up big time". It might be guilt (and even so, there's a difference between "oh no because of me someone died" and "oh no, because of me someone died" - so it might be fear that the others will find out and do something with her, or the cops do if they find out and she lives - and again in that case she fears for herself above anyone else.
Those are all also unconfirmed interpretations, and so hold equally as much weight as the former 'way of looking at it'.
Problem is, even if you decide to "kill" Josh instead of her and have high "approval" with her (so she would suggest that Chris should shoot… more her) she does that anyway. So it takes only 1 time where you supposedly betray her (even though she says oh noes what are you doing kill me instead) to decide that basically, f-ck you - even though at this point she knows that 1. she couldn't possibly die from that bullet 2. but Chris will 100% die if he stays there 3. Josh didn't mean to kill anyone so that thing outside that chases Chris is a real killer 4. at this point there was no danger for her and she could've opened it without problems - so it wasn't "me or him" situation. It was cold-blooded revenge. It's the same thing some of the players did in the game when they didn't like a character - they let him suffer and die. I would've been ok if it really was a situation where it's either Ash or Chris, or him and someone else. But it wasn't.
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It would be a great conversation breaker, especially since someone started to talk to me through Twitter DMs because I was into Until Dawn and Filthy Frank but then I changed the subject so then it got kinda awkward. They like Until Dawn so it'll be fine. Well only if they hate Ashley.....
It would be a great conversation breaker, especially since someone started to talk to me through Twitter DMs because I was into Until Dawn a… morend Filthy Frank but then I changed the subject so then it got kinda awkward. They like Until Dawn so it'll be fine. Well only if they hate Ashley.....
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
I was pretty surprised when I realized that the Special Edition didn't have any other subtitles than English. Apparently the normal game has Finnish subtitles, but the Special edition only has English
I personally had no problem with that since I understand English pretty well, but some of my friends aren't so good with the language and I would love to let them play it, but I guess it's kinda hard to make choices if you don't understand what the options mean
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
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Oh ;-;
But that GIF, though xD I really want that pug xD
Same
Yeah, I think they could put kinda more effort to the dialogue.
No, it doesn't really appeal to 'modern teens' either. You're just meant to find it cheesy.
They did, it was intentional
Yup
That's irrelevant. At the time the gun was fired, Chris believed he was killing Ashley. Even under the circumstances, it's the intent that she would blame him for, not the retrospective result.
Does she? Will he? She doesn't 100% know anything about what is going to happen. Maybe Chris finds the door locked, stands still, and the wendigo loses track of him, so he goes around to another door. Maybe this is all part of Josh's hoax. So she assumes Chris is going to die, but it turns out he's not in danger at all, just like she wasn't in danger of being shot. Hell, she's never even seen a wendigo before, and doesn't know anything about them. Maybe they're afraid of locked doors, for all she knows, and by locking this one she unintentionally scares it away and saves Chris's life. Unlikely, obviously, but my point is, don't deal in absolutes. You, the player, may retrospectively know Chris dies because she doesn't let him in, but for her it's still just an assumption.
Which is why I barely even recognise this turn of events as canon anyway. It doesn't really make sense. I don't blame Ashley for killing Chris, I blame the writers for poor writing and a misuse of the game mechanic. Literally all they needed to do is have Ashley just act uncomfortable and distant with Chris after he 'shot' her, and instead of waiting at the door for him to come back, she says she needs time alone to process what happened and goes down to the basement with others, meaning there's no-one there to let Chris back in quickly enough. Butterfly effect. Same result, without Ashley becoming vengeful out of nowhere.
Maybe you should watch the scene again. Ashley has literally zero lines between Mike picking up the gun and shooting/not shooting Emily. She doesn't demand we kill anyone. She doesn't even consider it. The worst she does is tell Emily to get out, but that's not until after Mike has already told her to and decided he needs to force her out anyway. She's just afraid of her being in the safe room with them, and probably would have been happy with Emily being in the next room with a locked door between them. Not dead.
Yeah, that doesn't make her a bad person, it makes her someone in a very stressful situation who suffers from an anxiety disorder. Like an actual recognised mental illness. She can't be blamed for that. She can't help it. Not everyone is capable of being brave or thinking clearly in a crisis. That's why she has Chris.
Whereas Mike seems to have some kind of hero complex. There's every chance they would have been fine if they'd just stayed in the safe room together like Sam said, but instead Mike feels like he needs to actively save everyone by doing the most dangerously vague thing he can think of, 'Find Josh somewhere, maybe in the mines that I've never even been in', just so that he can get the cable car key, a plan which turns out to be appropriately futile anyway. Then he doesn't even manage that on his own, but instead does another random solo quest in the sanatorium, despite that not being where Josh even is. Sure he's trying to help everyone in his own special macho way, but he's really just being a moron (Of course, Sam doesn't do much better by following him, but I guess the game wasn't finished with her yet). Now that doesn't make him a bad person either, but he's not worse than Ashley.
Those are all also unconfirmed interpretations, and so hold equally as much weight as the former 'way of looking at it'.
Metal Gear Solid V
Well, then they 'succeeded' I guess.
Not sure how there's a bright side to being dead, or being a wendigo... But okay.
Pugs
I changed my Gravatar to Jess because she is bae.
She is so bae that I got over my hatred of the word "bae" just to call her bae.
Bae.
MGSV ftw
UNTIL DAWN (Honest Game Trailers)
Watch this repeatedly m8
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Someone needs to make this a gif. Like ASAP.
The best part of the video xD
Holy shit you rock!
I know ^-^
I need to try this on someone
I tried it on you, fam ~-^
Oh well. Feel free to post my GIF whenever you like ~-^
It would be a great conversation breaker, especially since someone started to talk to me through Twitter DMs because I was into Until Dawn and Filthy Frank but then I changed the subject so then it got kinda awkward. They like Until Dawn so it'll be fine. Well only if they hate Ashley.....
I'm sure many people hate Ashley so you don't have to worry about that x3
Should I try to use that GIF in the Rhyiona thread? xD
Yes let's sync it there.
So here's an Until Dawn "Which character are you" quiz, take the quiz if you'd like...
http://www.playbuzz.com/itsthebrandname10/which-until-dawn-character-are-you
So I got Chris ayy lmao, love him.
I got Chris, too. Ayy lmao xD
ayy
ME TOOO!!! (yay)
Stupid. I got Chris and I find him boring. I wanted to be Dr. Hill, doing funny faces, drunk at work and not giving shit bout gross stuff in my room.
So am I.
I guess Chris is an easy character to be for the guys, at least judging by the early comments.
I am Mike.
Emily is my favorite character.
I was pretty surprised when I realized that the Special Edition didn't have any other subtitles than English. Apparently the normal game has Finnish subtitles, but the Special edition only has English
I personally had no problem with that since I understand English pretty well, but some of my friends aren't so good with the language and I would love to let them play it, but I guess it's kinda hard to make choices if you don't understand what the options mean
lmao I got Emily wooot
I got Josh.