Is there? I haven't noticed. I'm feeling pretty neutral towards her and Louis. I prefer Violet but I'm really not that interested in either one's romantic options if I'm being honest.
Louis is a bit too much of the "comedic relief side character" for me. They both made me roll my eyes at points though. In the end, I like em both. Shame what happened to Marlon cause I liked him too
Louis is a bit too much of the "comedic relief side character" for me. They both made me roll my eyes at points though. In the end, I like em both. Shame what happened to Marlon cause I liked him too
Well I don't hate Violet because of reasons you mentioned(btw dislike would be a more appropriate word for me). I instead dislike her because she tries to pretend as if she doesn't have a crush on Clem, yet bugs her around such as, doesn't leave when she comes into Clem's room even though she said she would come just for pencils, instead uses the opportunity to mention how the school is too "Bro-town", implying thirst for girls, i.e. Clementine, pops up some smiles but then further acts as if she doesn't care, whilst keeping a very watchful eye Louis doesn't steal Clem.
I repels me when people like that try to use that "hide and seek" strategy whereby his/her crush is attempted to become deluded into thinking there is some "chemistry" going on between them(even if otherwise those persons don't share anything in common, as it is the case with Clem and Violet) by purposely acting in a "unique way that hasn't ever been observed towards other people" and thereby having the crush step into the relationship "on his own" because you know, there is this "complexity, chemistry, organic personality"(lmao I just find it so funny when these people pull off these words just for sake of giving an impression of wisdom, even though they have no idea what they're talking about - which is, of course, a very simple deluding strategy I just explained)
Thankfully, my Clementine is waaay too smart to fall for such rather cheap strategy. Now the most important point: She is going to try and find partners who wouldn't just flirt, but also/instead CARE about her and her boy AJ, such as taking care and being very nice towards her ward AJ, always helping him out like immediately helping him get up at the feet when guy like Marlon pushes him on the ground(hmm who am I referring to, well probably it was Violet who was so careful towards AJ) etc.
The people who hate violet either seem to ignore the reasons why she acts the way she acts or just don't care. She's been through a lot. Get… moreting reminded of lost loved ones from two different people pretty much everyday I'm sure would make anyone show and display negative emotions but despite that violet still smiles at times. Violet has gone through way more suffering than louis has and even after marlon got killed violet's suffering is still worst because now she lost brody and the person who not only killed brody but is also responsible for tenn someone she cares about sisters who she was very close to in one of them and was in a relationship with the other one being taken away isn't alive anymore. So violet can't get revenge, payback, or retribution. And just like with tenn's sisters violet couldn't say goodbye to brody. People seem to only care about and pay attention to what violet acts like and how violet acts but don't consider the why. Which is what's important and is what explains why she acts the way she does.
I don't get that violet's pretending not to like clem. She's just not obnoxiously in your face with it like louis is. Louis comes off as desperate and violet doesn't. She comes off as shy. And I think you're reaching by saying violet's too bro town comment mean she has a thirst for girls.
There's evidence that shows louis has a thirst for clem though. And I think you're reaching again by saying violet's keeping a very watchful eye so louis won't steal clem. And I've given reasons why violet's complex. I know what I'm talking about. It's not a strategy.
And even if violet and clem don't share anything in common which I believe they do they don't have to share anything in common but for me having something in common is one reason why I ship violet and clem. And violet's nice to aj and cares about clem. Louis is a decent guy for how he treats aj but I just personally don't think he's suitable to be a love interest for clem. Louis being nice to aj isn't enough for me and the way he acts towards clem and their interactions in general just further solidifies my ship of clem and violet
Well I don't hate Violet because of reasons you mentioned(btw dislike would be a more appropriate word for me). I instead dislike her becaus… moree she tries to pretend as if she doesn't have a crush on Clem, yet bugs her around such as, doesn't leave when she comes into Clem's room even though she said she would come just for pencils, instead uses the opportunity to mention how the school is too "Bro-town", implying thirst for girls, i.e. Clementine, pops up some smiles but then further acts as if she doesn't care, whilst keeping a very watchful eye Louis doesn't steal Clem.
I repels me when people like that try to use that "hide and seek" strategy whereby his/her crush is attempted to become deluded into thinking there is some "chemistry" going on between them(even if otherwise those persons don't share anything in common, as it is the case with Clem and Violet) by purposely acting in a "unique way that hasn't ever been observed towards other p… [view original content]
Don't know why Violet would even get upset if Clementine did have feelings for Gabe (Which mine did) Bisexuality's a thing. Clementine could have been into Gabe and still be into her. It's not one or the other.
Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants. she thinks she's slick by by being all depressing and trying to make clementine all sad for her. Well my clementine dont got time for that shit. She need someone with the balls to go after what they want that's where my man louis comes in. And your saying louis is an obnoxious in your face flirt and desperate, oh please the boy has charm coming out of his ass.
I don't get that violet's pretending not to like clem. She's just not obnoxiously in your face with it like louis is. Louis comes off as des… moreperate and violet doesn't. She comes off as shy. And I think you're reaching by saying violet's too bro town comment mean she has a thirst for girls.
There's evidence that shows louis has a thirst for clem though. And I think you're reaching again by saying violet's keeping a very watchful eye so louis won't steal clem. And I've given reasons why violet's complex. I know what I'm talking about. It's not a strategy.
And even if violet and clem don't share anything in common which I believe they do they don't have to share anything in common but for me having something in common is one reason why I ship violet and clem. And violet's nice to aj and cares about clem. Louis is a decent guy for how he treats aj but I just personally don't think he's suitable to be a love interest for clem. Louis being nice … [view original content]
Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants. she thinks she's slick by by being all depressing and trying to make clement… moreine all sad for her. Well my clementine dont got time for that shit. She need someone with the balls to go after what they want that's where my man louis comes in. And your saying louis is an obnoxious in your face flirt and desperate, oh please the boy has charm coming out of his ass.
Eh, if there's anyone out there who hates her, probably it's because of these shipping issues. Louis fans, should I say?
I seriously don't get people who relates Violet with Jane/Molly though. She definitely doesn't hate kids, and actually loves to be around with people but introvert, after she'd been through she was just seeking for love;someone to love; she's also proved herself as being loyal to AJ and Clem.
You could even see that conversation between her and Clem and how genuine it was. She's not even depressed type as she may make funny/cute comments,and definitely not kind of person who'd blame you for everything.
To me, Violet is a really genuine,sweet and interesting character. And I also liked the way how her crush towards Clem is slowly evolving; she didn't immediately go "eh be my gf" rather, there's a slow-burn; which makes it everything as worthwhile.
Violet isn't a coward. She's a person that's been through a lot of hardship and it shows it in what she says, does, how she acts, and her facial expressions.
And violet being depressed is not an act for sympathy. Violet felt comfortable enough around clem to go on a ramble. And comfortable to speak to clem. Not flirt like louis. Well I don't consider playing with a living corpse in front of a child as charming. I don't consider a person trying to woo clem right off the bat when she just woke up in a unfamiliar place after being in a car crash as charming.
I don't consider a person who for no reason tries to start beef between two females while playing favorites towards one female and belittling the other female as charming. I also don't think louis is funny nor is he entertaining to me.
Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants. she thinks she's slick by by being all depressing and trying to make clement… moreine all sad for her. Well my clementine dont got time for that shit. She need someone with the balls to go after what they want that's where my man louis comes in. And your saying louis is an obnoxious in your face flirt and desperate, oh please the boy has charm coming out of his ass.
Don't know why Violet would even get upset if Clementine did have feelings for Gabe (Which mine did) Bisexuality's a thing. Clementine could have been into Gabe and still be into her. It's not one or the other.
I like Violet. I just don't ship her with Clem. I don't think Violet has had enough time to get over Minnie yet and I also think Minnie (or her sister. One not both) will return at some point. My Clem is totally going to be there for her if that happens.
Well you know that's why they say humor is very subjective and while you may find louis to not be charming or funny that doesnt mean its not true, its your opinion and that's fine. Also I feel like your cherry picking a lot of the stuff louis does but also fail to acknowledge any of the stuff violet does because you just chalk it up to her "being a person who has gone through hardship".I feel like this is used way to much to excuse asshole like behavior. And this goes for both louis and violet, yet I keep hearing the same excuses over and over for why violet acts like a whiny bitch. Just because someone has been through something doesn't mean they have to act a certain way, and its a weak argument and makes for a weak character imo.
Violet isn't a coward. She's a person that's been through a lot of hardship and it shows it in what she says, does, how she acts, and her fa… morecial expressions.
And violet being depressed is not an act for sympathy. Violet felt comfortable enough around clem to go on a ramble. And comfortable to speak to clem. Not flirt like louis. Well I don't consider playing with a living corpse in front of a child as charming. I don't consider a person trying to woo clem right off the bat when she just woke up in a unfamiliar place after being in a car crash as charming.
I don't consider a person who for no reason tries to start beef between two females while playing favorites towards one female and belittling the other female as charming. I also don't think louis is funny nor is he entertaining to me.
I believe the only whiney moment one could say she had was when she asked what clem and brody were doing taking so long but I'm sure you say "man listen to that mime bitching" ( mimes don't talk in case you didn't get it)
Well you know that's why they say humor is very subjective and while you may find louis to not be charming or funny that doesnt mean its not… more true, its your opinion and that's fine. Also I feel like your cherry picking a lot of the stuff louis does but also fail to acknowledge any of the stuff violet does because you just chalk it up to her "being a person who has gone through hardship".I feel like this is used way to much to excuse asshole like behavior. And this goes for both louis and violet, yet I keep hearing the same excuses over and over for why violet acts like a whiny bitch. Just because someone has been through something doesn't mean they have to act a certain way, and its a weak argument and makes for a weak character imo.
I believe the only whiney moment one could say she had was when she asked what clem and brody were doing taking so long but I'm sure you say "man listen to that mime bitching" ( mimes don't talk in case you didn't get it)
I agree. Everyone at that place has lost people, it's not just Violet. So they all got hardships and things to deal with. Tenn lost both his sisters and Clem's lost pretty much every group she's been in, some of which she maybe had to kill (Lee, Kenny, AJ's mom.) So why is Violet suddenly so precious for losing a girlfriend?
Well you know that's why they say humor is very subjective and while you may find louis to not be charming or funny that doesnt mean its not… more true, its your opinion and that's fine. Also I feel like your cherry picking a lot of the stuff louis does but also fail to acknowledge any of the stuff violet does because you just chalk it up to her "being a person who has gone through hardship".I feel like this is used way to much to excuse asshole like behavior. And this goes for both louis and violet, yet I keep hearing the same excuses over and over for why violet acts like a whiny bitch. Just because someone has been through something doesn't mean they have to act a certain way, and its a weak argument and makes for a weak character imo.
Well I guess it comes down to how you interpret Louis' flirtations. In my opinion, if this wasn't a zombie apocalypse, and Louis was that typical guy that flirted with and had like 1000 girls, and Clementine was just his next "victim", then I would definitely be annoyed by his flirtations. But this way, considering that he's just a teen that has never been in a relationship and didn't have an opportunity to have a crush on a girl for a very long time, I understand his flirtations and therefore think that it is pretty cute, trying to find someone he could love in this horrible world. Although Gabe could also kinda fit into description I wrote, I think he was different because Gabe really wanted Clem just because of physical attraction but Louis is acting more like an adult, I mean he's caring, he's able to get serious and share some emotional feelings(like when Clem talked about Lee). And again that piano scene just made me love him so much because I found it more of as a very, very sweet intro. An example of what wouldn't be sweet, but instead obnoxious flirt, is throwing some really obviously flirtatious compliments about Clementine's look or something like that.
I don't get that violet's pretending not to like clem. She's just not obnoxiously in your face with it like louis is. Louis comes off as des… moreperate and violet doesn't. She comes off as shy. And I think you're reaching by saying violet's too bro town comment mean she has a thirst for girls.
There's evidence that shows louis has a thirst for clem though. And I think you're reaching again by saying violet's keeping a very watchful eye so louis won't steal clem. And I've given reasons why violet's complex. I know what I'm talking about. It's not a strategy.
And even if violet and clem don't share anything in common which I believe they do they don't have to share anything in common but for me having something in common is one reason why I ship violet and clem. And violet's nice to aj and cares about clem. Louis is a decent guy for how he treats aj but I just personally don't think he's suitable to be a love interest for clem. Louis being nice … [view original content]
I'm not cherry picking. I've acknowledged some good things about louis. And I've said what I don't like about him. And it's not excuses. They're reasons. No one's denying how she acts but I gave reasons as to why. Doesn't excuse her but she shouldn't be hated because of it. She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life. I don't hate louis for how he acts and how he acted.
Well you know that's why they say humor is very subjective and while you may find louis to not be charming or funny that doesnt mean its not… more true, its your opinion and that's fine. Also I feel like your cherry picking a lot of the stuff louis does but also fail to acknowledge any of the stuff violet does because you just chalk it up to her "being a person who has gone through hardship".I feel like this is used way to much to excuse asshole like behavior. And this goes for both louis and violet, yet I keep hearing the same excuses over and over for why violet acts like a whiny bitch. Just because someone has been through something doesn't mean they have to act a certain way, and its a weak argument and makes for a weak character imo.
I don't see it like that. I interpret it differently. And the type of character he is just isn't for me. I think the song he sung was cringe and unnecessary. And he continues regardless if you want him to stop or not. Which made him even more obnoxious to me.
Well I guess it comes down to how you interpret Louis' flirtations. In my opinion, if this wasn't a zombie apocalypse, and Louis was that ty… morepical guy that flirted with and had like 1000 girls, and Clementine was just his next "victim", then I would definitely be annoyed by his flirtations. But this way, considering that he's just a teen that has never been in a relationship and didn't have an opportunity to have a crush on a girl for a very long time, I understand his flirtations and therefore think that it is pretty cute, trying to find someone he could love in this horrible world. Although Gabe could also kinda fit into description I wrote, I think he was different because Gabe really wanted Clem just because of physical attraction but Louis is acting more like an adult, I mean he's caring, he's able to get serious and share some emotional feelings(like when Clem talked about Lee). And again that piano scene just made me love him so much be… [view original content]
I'm actually not a fan of the romance. I like Luis as a character, though zombie pinata I had severe issues with, but I cannot stand Violet as a character. Has nothing to do with shipping. And I doubt anyone's reasoning for disliking Violet is because of shipping. That'd be like saying the only reason Violet shippers hate Luis is because their so desperate for Violet to be the one and only for Clem. It makes no sense because its obvious telltale is giving you the option of them both. Its the finale season so they don't need to limit themselves to one like they might of had to if there was going to be another game.
Eh, if there's anyone out there who hates her, probably it's because of these shipping issues. Louis fans, should I say?
I seriously don't … moreget people who relates Violet with Jane/Molly though. She definitely doesn't hate kids, and actually loves to be around with people but introvert, after she'd been through she was just seeking for love;someone to love; she's also proved herself as being loyal to AJ and Clem.
You could even see that conversation between her and Clem and how genuine it was. She's not even depressed type as she may make funny/cute comments,and definitely not kind of person who'd blame you for everything.
To me, Violet is a really genuine,sweet and interesting character. And I also liked the way how her crush towards Clem is slowly evolving; she didn't immediately go "eh be my gf" rather, there's a slow-burn; which makes it everything as worthwhile.
I find what you wrote in your post very interesting, "She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life". But how could you know that, whats the norm to dealing with grief? I mean there are people I know who that have been through way worse than what violet has went through and are the nicest people ever.
I'm not cherry picking. I've acknowledged some good things about louis. And I've said what I don't like about him. And it's not excuses. The… morey're reasons. No one's denying how she acts but I gave reasons as to why. Doesn't excuse her but she shouldn't be hated because of it. She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life. I don't hate louis for how he acts and how he acted.
Honestly (not really saying this just because I liked Violet, I'm genuinely trying to look at things from general aspect) Violet literally did nothing wrong in first episode. So what was annoying to you? She lost people and having her grief inside her and opening her heart to someone for the first time after losing the one she loved. Why can't she do that,she was also kind of angry at Brody yet she was still trying to help her instead of flipping her off. And it's not even like she blamed Clementine for everything; she did nothing but opening up. She wasn't even like a b*tch and just to opposite she was nice as well.
I'm actually not a fan of the romance. I like Luis as a character, though zombie pinata I had severe issues with, but I cannot stand Violet … moreas a character. Has nothing to do with shipping. And I doubt anyone's reasoning for disliking Violet is because of shipping. That'd be like saying the only reason Violet shippers hate Luis is because their so desperate for Violet to be the one and only for Clem. It makes no sense because its obvious telltale is giving you the option of them both. Its the finale season so they don't need to limit themselves to one like they might of had to if there was going to be another game.
I find what you wrote in your post very interesting, "She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life". But how… more could you know that, whats the norm to dealing with grief? I mean there are people I know who that have been through way worse than what violet has went through and are the nicest people ever.
So I still can't get your point. Which reason are you grilling Violet for? Are you gonna blame her for having grief over losing her loved ones. Some may endure the pain very well, some can't. I mean, I am still failing to see what did she do wrong in the first chapter.
Violet is kind of character like who's trying to be tough yet vulnerable inside. And she actually showed her sensitive side only to Clementine -much to Brody's surprise. At the first time they've met, she was low-key trying to calling out Clem, yet she didn't even sound annoying at that time. And it wasn't even like she's a whiny girl who's complaining about unnecessary things or blames you for everything.
I find what you wrote in your post very interesting, "She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life". But how… more could you know that, whats the norm to dealing with grief? I mean there are people I know who that have been through way worse than what violet has went through and are the nicest people ever.
If i have to choose between saving louis or saving violet im saving Violet. And I'll likely side with violet over Louis in arguments. Because when I ship I ship hard. But I still want to be good friends with Louis unlike in Life is Strange where I wanted a restraining order on Warren.
Honestly, man... I, myself, have a very simple way of choosing one who i like "the most".
When does Louis makes Clem smile? Several times… more, just being himself. Choice dependent, of course.
When does Violet makes Clem smile? When she talks about/mocks Louis.
IT'S ALL LOUIS.
If you go back through these comments you can find some of the reasons I dislike her. And I actually replayed the episode and started to dislike her more. But a reason I'm not sure I listed is she's a cowardly flirt. And, for whatever reason, seems to think Clem's gotta reciprocate her feelings. She literally gets upset with Clem if theirs any inclination that she likes boys, apparently Clem can't be straight or even bisexual without it being a problem. And I never said she wasn't allowed to grieve, that was definitely not a reason to dislike her for me. I just don't sympathize with her on it like everyone else seems to. Its the apocalypse, all the characters have lost someone, so why is she so popular just because she opened up about it to someone she barely knows? Tenn opened up about it, Marlon opened up about losing several people and how he couldn't lose anymore. Why is Violet doing it such an amazing thing?
I'm hopeful she grows on me by the second episode but, as of now, I just don't like her and don't get the hype.
Honestly (not really saying this just because I liked Violet, I'm genuinely trying to look at things from general aspect) Violet literally d… moreid nothing wrong in first episode. So what was annoying to you? She lost people and having her grief inside her and opening her heart to someone for the first time after losing the one she loved. Why can't she do that,she was also kind of angry at Brody yet she was still trying to help her instead of flipping her off. And it's not even like she blamed Clementine for everything; she did nothing but opening up. She wasn't even like a b*tch and just to opposite she was nice as well.
Fair enough! Though, my line of thought is the exact contrary. I like Violet quite a bit; but i don't see why Clem would like her as more than a friend.
If i have to choose between saving louis or saving violet im saving Violet. And I'll likely side with violet over Louis in arguments. Becaus… moree when I ship I ship hard. But I still want to be good friends with Louis unlike in Life is Strange where I wanted a restraining order on Warren.
I understand. It wasn't a defense it was a why I believe she acted in a way that people found intolerable. I just personally don't see a reason to hate her for it. Dislike, find obnoxious yeah but I think hate is too much. She didn't hurt clem or aj, kill anyone that a lot of people liked, didn't get a likable character killed. If you let aj keep the box she's cool about it. She's not a little mean or confrontational anymore after you return back from dealing with the walkers. She acts differently and throughout the entire episode shows a different side to herself. And she does smile at times.
Cowardly flirting? Wew. Couldn't it be mean taking things slow rather than rushing things? And literally what is wrong with her getting upset about hearing about Clem's past experience? That only showed her jealousy and attraction towards Clem; because she was even surprised that she was having those thoughts.
About opening up to Clem this sudden... maybe Clementine reminded her of someone? Somehow she felt closer to Clem from her actions and all. Seriously, you don't like her because of these reasons? I mean this almost sounds like grasping at straws.
If you go back through these comments you can find some of the reasons I dislike her. And I actually replayed the episode and started to dis… morelike her more. But a reason I'm not sure I listed is she's a cowardly flirt. And, for whatever reason, seems to think Clem's gotta reciprocate her feelings. She literally gets upset with Clem if theirs any inclination that she likes boys, apparently Clem can't be straight or even bisexual without it being a problem. And I never said she wasn't allowed to grieve, that was definitely not a reason to dislike her for me. I just don't sympathize with her on it like everyone else seems to. Its the apocalypse, all the characters have lost someone, so why is she so popular just because she opened up about it to someone she barely knows? Tenn opened up about it, Marlon opened up about losing several people and how he couldn't lose anymore. Why is Violet doing it such an amazing thing?
I'm hopeful she grows on me by the second episode but, as of now, I just don't like her and don't get the hype.
Same reason most violet fans probably like her. I want to save her. To help her heal. To be her hero. Relationships may not / should not work like that but it's a romantic idea.
Fair enough! Though, my line of thought is the exact contrary. I like Violet quite a bit; but i don't see why Clem would like her as more than a friend.
Yeah you really don't understand my points at all, Im not gonna blame someone for grief of their loves ones, but I might have a problem on how they express such grief. Like trying to damper the moods of everyone else. And you can't find anything she did wrong in the episode what about the unnecessary morbid question she asks about whos going to die first and gets upset if you say its her. Do you find nothing wrong with that?
So I still can't get your point. Which reason are you grilling Violet for? Are you gonna blame her for having grief over losing her loved on… morees. Some may endure the pain very well, some can't. I mean, I am still failing to see what did she do wrong in the first chapter.
Violet is kind of character like who's trying to be tough yet vulnerable inside. And she actually showed her sensitive side only to Clementine -much to Brody's surprise. At the first time they've met, she was low-key trying to calling out Clem, yet she didn't even sound annoying at that time. And it wasn't even like she's a whiny girl who's complaining about unnecessary things or blames you for everything.
Well I didn't know about "your point" because you weren't talking with me and I haven't even noticed your previous comments.
So asking about "who's going to die first" made her an unlikeable character in your eyes and trying to damper the mood...Hm. They are all in zombie apocalypse; always witnessing death and such stuff like that and stuff like even worse than that question. So I can't really see what's wrong with it. Telltale also made a good job for foreshadowing things too as Marlon died.
If we're gonna grasp at straws, then let's get back to the hunting scene; where Louis wanted to play walker pinata while his group was literally starving, and little kid (AJ) was watching him. Do you find it wrong too? So technically you shouldn't like Louis too.
Yeah you really don't understand my points at all, Im not gonna blame someone for grief of their loves ones, but I might have a problem on h… moreow they express such grief. Like trying to damper the moods of everyone else. And you can't find anything she did wrong in the episode what about the unnecessary morbid question she asks about whos going to die first and gets upset if you say its her. Do you find nothing wrong with that?
Don't know why it really matters to you as to why I dislike her? I also don't think you need to belittle my reasons just because you don't understand them. I don't understand why people like her but I'm not going to sit there and say your 'grasping at straws' for it. But yes, I dislike it when someone is interested and they try and play it like their not while also getting information. I find it cowardly, save the confusion and be upfront. And jealousy when you've just met someone is unacceptable to me, its possessive and weird. She doesn't know Clem and right off the bat is jealous? It'd be one thing if they knew each other beyond a day. And I didn't say her opening up to Clem was an issue to me. I said I don't get why it makes her special. We literally have two other characters that do it.
Cowardly flirting? Wew. Couldn't it be mean taking things slow rather than rushing things? And literally what is wrong with her getting upse… moret about hearing about Clem's past experience? That only showed her jealousy and attraction towards Clem; because she was even surprised that she was having those thoughts.
About opening up to Clem this sudden... maybe Clementine reminded her of someone? Somehow she felt closer to Clem from her actions and all. Seriously, you don't like her because of these reasons? I mean this almost sounds like grasping at straws.
I think everyone admits that walking pinata was stupid as all hell. But the fact that some people still like him over Violet, even after that, says something.
Well I didn't know about "your point" because you weren't talking with me and I haven't even noticed your previous comments.
So asking ab… moreout "who's going to die first" made her an unlikeable character in your eyes and trying to damper the mood...Hm. They are all in zombie apocalypse; always witnessing death and such stuff like that and stuff like even worse than that question. So I can't really see what's wrong with it. Telltale also made a good job for foreshadowing things too as Marlon died.
If we're gonna grasp at straws, then let's get back to the hunting scene; where Louis wanted to play walker pinata while his group was literally starving, and little kid (AJ) was watching him. Do you find it wrong too? So technically you shouldn't like Louis too.
Well it's not like I'm trying to change your opinion but rather, we're in a forum and we're making a discussion about this game...
The girl really attracted from Clem, so she felt some tiny jealousy and I still can't see anything possessive in it. She wasn't screaming like "be mine", she was having her jealousy from inside as she was newly growing an attraction towards the stranger she've just met. Though she still didn't rush things.
So yeah, I got my answer, you dislike her just to dislike her.
Don't know why it really matters to you as to why I dislike her? I also don't think you need to belittle my reasons just because you don't u… morenderstand them. I don't understand why people like her but I'm not going to sit there and say your 'grasping at straws' for it. But yes, I dislike it when someone is interested and they try and play it like their not while also getting information. I find it cowardly, save the confusion and be upfront. And jealousy when you've just met someone is unacceptable to me, its possessive and weird. She doesn't know Clem and right off the bat is jealous? It'd be one thing if they knew each other beyond a day. And I didn't say her opening up to Clem was an issue to me. I said I don't get why it makes her special. We literally have two other characters that do it.
We are different people, we see things differently. I don't dislike her just to dislike her, your just unable to accept anyone disliking a character you like. But this is a discussion about the animosity towards Violet. I'm answering that question because its the topic of this thread. If it bothers you so much than maybe you shouldn't be on this thread?
And, also, I'm completely open to my opinion of her changing as the season goes on, I just don't like her in episode 1. That's one episode out of four. I've had my opinion on characters change before. Whose to say that I won't end up liking her? For all anyone knows I'll like her way better than Luis by the end of this.
Its not really your problem so don't worry about it.
Well it's not like I'm trying to change your opinion but rather, we're in a forum and we're making a discussion about this game...
The gir… morel really attracted from Clem, so she felt some tiny jealousy and I still can't see anything possessive in it. She wasn't screaming like "be mine", she was having her jealousy from inside as she was newly growing an attraction towards the stranger she've just met. Though she still didn't rush things.
So yeah, I got my answer, you dislike her just to dislike her.
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stamps "Platonic" on your hand Hi I'm Team Violetine you're team Platonic want to be friends?
Louis is a bit too much of the "comedic relief side character" for me. They both made me roll my eyes at points though. In the end, I like em both. Shame what happened to Marlon cause I liked him too
sure.
I utterly despised marlon but I respect your opinion.
Well I don't hate Violet because of reasons you mentioned(btw dislike would be a more appropriate word for me). I instead dislike her because she tries to pretend as if she doesn't have a crush on Clem, yet bugs her around such as, doesn't leave when she comes into Clem's room even though she said she would come just for pencils, instead uses the opportunity to mention how the school is too "Bro-town", implying thirst for girls, i.e. Clementine, pops up some smiles but then further acts as if she doesn't care, whilst keeping a very watchful eye Louis doesn't steal Clem.
I repels me when people like that try to use that "hide and seek" strategy whereby his/her crush is attempted to become deluded into thinking there is some "chemistry" going on between them(even if otherwise those persons don't share anything in common, as it is the case with Clem and Violet) by purposely acting in a "unique way that hasn't ever been observed towards other people" and thereby having the crush step into the relationship "on his own" because you know, there is this "complexity, chemistry, organic personality"(lmao I just find it so funny when these people pull off these words just for sake of giving an impression of wisdom, even though they have no idea what they're talking about - which is, of course, a very simple deluding strategy I just explained)
Thankfully, my Clementine is waaay too smart to fall for such rather cheap strategy. Now the most important point: She is going to try and find partners who wouldn't just flirt, but also/instead CARE about her and her boy AJ, such as taking care and being very nice towards her ward AJ, always helping him out like immediately helping him get up at the feet when guy like Marlon pushes him on the ground(hmm who am I referring to, well probably it was Violet who was so careful towards AJ) etc.
I don't get that violet's pretending not to like clem. She's just not obnoxiously in your face with it like louis is. Louis comes off as desperate and violet doesn't. She comes off as shy. And I think you're reaching by saying violet's too bro town comment mean she has a thirst for girls.
There's evidence that shows louis has a thirst for clem though. And I think you're reaching again by saying violet's keeping a very watchful eye so louis won't steal clem. And I've given reasons why violet's complex. I know what I'm talking about. It's not a strategy.
And even if violet and clem don't share anything in common which I believe they do they don't have to share anything in common but for me having something in common is one reason why I ship violet and clem. And violet's nice to aj and cares about clem. Louis is a decent guy for how he treats aj but I just personally don't think he's suitable to be a love interest for clem. Louis being nice to aj isn't enough for me and the way he acts towards clem and their interactions in general just further solidifies my ship of clem and violet
Don't know why Violet would even get upset if Clementine did have feelings for Gabe (Which mine did) Bisexuality's a thing. Clementine could have been into Gabe and still be into her. It's not one or the other.
Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants. she thinks she's slick by by being all depressing and trying to make clementine all sad for her. Well my clementine dont got time for that shit. She need someone with the balls to go after what they want that's where my man louis comes in. And your saying louis is an obnoxious in your face flirt and desperate, oh please the boy has charm coming out of his ass.
Yes Dad , very charming eye roll
ohhhh but sweetie, Violet is also complex and deep as well, eye roll
Eh, if there's anyone out there who hates her, probably it's because of these shipping issues. Louis fans, should I say?
I seriously don't get people who relates Violet with Jane/Molly though. She definitely doesn't hate kids, and actually loves to be around with people but introvert, after she'd been through she was just seeking for love;someone to love; she's also proved herself as being loyal to AJ and Clem.
You could even see that conversation between her and Clem and how genuine it was. She's not even depressed type as she may make funny/cute comments,and definitely not kind of person who'd blame you for everything.
To me, Violet is a really genuine,sweet and interesting character. And I also liked the way how her crush towards Clem is slowly evolving; she didn't immediately go "eh be my gf" rather, there's a slow-burn; which makes it everything as worthwhile.
Violet isn't a coward. She's a person that's been through a lot of hardship and it shows it in what she says, does, how she acts, and her facial expressions.
And violet being depressed is not an act for sympathy. Violet felt comfortable enough around clem to go on a ramble. And comfortable to speak to clem. Not flirt like louis. Well I don't consider playing with a living corpse in front of a child as charming. I don't consider a person trying to woo clem right off the bat when she just woke up in a unfamiliar place after being in a car crash as charming.
I don't consider a person who for no reason tries to start beef between two females while playing favorites towards one female and belittling the other female as charming. I also don't think louis is funny nor is he entertaining to me.
Right? Her reactions are ridiculous.
I like Violet. I just don't ship her with Clem. I don't think Violet has had enough time to get over Minnie yet and I also think Minnie (or her sister. One not both) will return at some point. My Clem is totally going to be there for her if that happens.
Well you know that's why they say humor is very subjective and while you may find louis to not be charming or funny that doesnt mean its not true, its your opinion and that's fine. Also I feel like your cherry picking a lot of the stuff louis does but also fail to acknowledge any of the stuff violet does because you just chalk it up to her "being a person who has gone through hardship".I feel like this is used way to much to excuse asshole like behavior. And this goes for both louis and violet, yet I keep hearing the same excuses over and over for why violet acts like a whiny bitch. Just because someone has been through something doesn't mean they have to act a certain way, and its a weak argument and makes for a weak character imo.
I believe the only whiney moment one could say she had was when she asked what clem and brody were doing taking so long but I'm sure you say "man listen to that mime bitching" ( mimes don't talk in case you didn't get it)
If that was the only moment of violets whining that you could find , then you haven't been paying much attention to her character.
I agree. Everyone at that place has lost people, it's not just Violet. So they all got hardships and things to deal with. Tenn lost both his sisters and Clem's lost pretty much every group she's been in, some of which she maybe had to kill (Lee, Kenny, AJ's mom.) So why is Violet suddenly so precious for losing a girlfriend?
Well I guess it comes down to how you interpret Louis' flirtations. In my opinion, if this wasn't a zombie apocalypse, and Louis was that typical guy that flirted with and had like 1000 girls, and Clementine was just his next "victim", then I would definitely be annoyed by his flirtations. But this way, considering that he's just a teen that has never been in a relationship and didn't have an opportunity to have a crush on a girl for a very long time, I understand his flirtations and therefore think that it is pretty cute, trying to find someone he could love in this horrible world. Although Gabe could also kinda fit into description I wrote, I think he was different because Gabe really wanted Clem just because of physical attraction but Louis is acting more like an adult, I mean he's caring, he's able to get serious and share some emotional feelings(like when Clem talked about Lee). And again that piano scene just made me love him so much because I found it more of as a very, very sweet intro. An example of what wouldn't be sweet, but instead obnoxious flirt, is throwing some really obviously flirtatious compliments about Clementine's look or something like that.
I'm not cherry picking. I've acknowledged some good things about louis. And I've said what I don't like about him. And it's not excuses. They're reasons. No one's denying how she acts but I gave reasons as to why. Doesn't excuse her but she shouldn't be hated because of it. She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life. I don't hate louis for how he acts and how he acted.
I don't see it like that. I interpret it differently. And the type of character he is just isn't for me. I think the song he sung was cringe and unnecessary. And he continues regardless if you want him to stop or not. Which made him even more obnoxious to me.
I'm actually not a fan of the romance. I like Luis as a character, though zombie pinata I had severe issues with, but I cannot stand Violet as a character. Has nothing to do with shipping. And I doubt anyone's reasoning for disliking Violet is because of shipping. That'd be like saying the only reason Violet shippers hate Luis is because their so desperate for Violet to be the one and only for Clem. It makes no sense because its obvious telltale is giving you the option of them both. Its the finale season so they don't need to limit themselves to one like they might of had to if there was going to be another game.
I find what you wrote in your post very interesting, "She's acting how a normal person would react to what's happened in her life". But how could you know that, whats the norm to dealing with grief? I mean there are people I know who that have been through way worse than what violet has went through and are the nicest people ever.
Honestly (not really saying this just because I liked Violet, I'm genuinely trying to look at things from general aspect) Violet literally did nothing wrong in first episode. So what was annoying to you? She lost people and having her grief inside her and opening her heart to someone for the first time after losing the one she loved. Why can't she do that,she was also kind of angry at Brody yet she was still trying to help her instead of flipping her off. And it's not even like she blamed Clementine for everything; she did nothing but opening up. She wasn't even like a b*tch and just to opposite she was nice as well.
What I perceive to be normal.
Fair enough, but I hope that you can understand why many of us wouldn't find her behavior tolerable or normal even for what she's experienced.
Honestly, man... I, myself, have a very simple way of choosing one who i like "the most".
When does Louis makes Clem smile? Several times, just being himself. Choice dependent, of course.
When does Violet makes Clem smile? When she talks about/mocks Louis.
IT'S ALL LOUIS.
So I still can't get your point. Which reason are you grilling Violet for? Are you gonna blame her for having grief over losing her loved ones. Some may endure the pain very well, some can't. I mean, I am still failing to see what did she do wrong in the first chapter.
Violet is kind of character like who's trying to be tough yet vulnerable inside. And she actually showed her sensitive side only to Clementine -much to Brody's surprise. At the first time they've met, she was low-key trying to calling out Clem, yet she didn't even sound annoying at that time. And it wasn't even like she's a whiny girl who's complaining about unnecessary things or blames you for everything.
If i have to choose between saving louis or saving violet im saving Violet. And I'll likely side with violet over Louis in arguments. Because when I ship I ship hard. But I still want to be good friends with Louis unlike in Life is Strange where I wanted a restraining order on Warren.
If you go back through these comments you can find some of the reasons I dislike her. And I actually replayed the episode and started to dislike her more. But a reason I'm not sure I listed is she's a cowardly flirt. And, for whatever reason, seems to think Clem's gotta reciprocate her feelings. She literally gets upset with Clem if theirs any inclination that she likes boys, apparently Clem can't be straight or even bisexual without it being a problem. And I never said she wasn't allowed to grieve, that was definitely not a reason to dislike her for me. I just don't sympathize with her on it like everyone else seems to. Its the apocalypse, all the characters have lost someone, so why is she so popular just because she opened up about it to someone she barely knows? Tenn opened up about it, Marlon opened up about losing several people and how he couldn't lose anymore. Why is Violet doing it such an amazing thing?
I'm hopeful she grows on me by the second episode but, as of now, I just don't like her and don't get the hype.
Fair enough! Though, my line of thought is the exact contrary. I like Violet quite a bit; but i don't see why Clem would like her as more than a friend.
I understand. It wasn't a defense it was a why I believe she acted in a way that people found intolerable. I just personally don't see a reason to hate her for it. Dislike, find obnoxious yeah but I think hate is too much. She didn't hurt clem or aj, kill anyone that a lot of people liked, didn't get a likable character killed. If you let aj keep the box she's cool about it. She's not a little mean or confrontational anymore after you return back from dealing with the walkers. She acts differently and throughout the entire episode shows a different side to herself. And she does smile at times.
Cowardly flirting? Wew. Couldn't it be mean taking things slow rather than rushing things? And literally what is wrong with her getting upset about hearing about Clem's past experience? That only showed her jealousy and attraction towards Clem; because she was even surprised that she was having those thoughts.
About opening up to Clem this sudden... maybe Clementine reminded her of someone? Somehow she felt closer to Clem from her actions and all. Seriously, you don't like her because of these reasons? I mean this almost sounds like grasping at straws.
Same reason most violet fans probably like her. I want to save her. To help her heal. To be her hero. Relationships may not / should not work like that but it's a romantic idea.
Yeah you really don't understand my points at all, Im not gonna blame someone for grief of their loves ones, but I might have a problem on how they express such grief. Like trying to damper the moods of everyone else. And you can't find anything she did wrong in the episode what about the unnecessary morbid question she asks about whos going to die first and gets upset if you say its her. Do you find nothing wrong with that?
Well I didn't know about "your point" because you weren't talking with me and I haven't even noticed your previous comments.
So asking about "who's going to die first" made her an unlikeable character in your eyes and trying to damper the mood...Hm. They are all in zombie apocalypse; always witnessing death and such stuff like that and stuff like even worse than that question. So I can't really see what's wrong with it. Telltale also made a good job for foreshadowing things too as Marlon died.
If we're gonna grasp at straws, then let's get back to the hunting scene; where Louis wanted to play walker pinata while his group was literally starving, and little kid (AJ) was watching him. Do you find it wrong too? So technically you shouldn't like Louis too.
Don't know why it really matters to you as to why I dislike her? I also don't think you need to belittle my reasons just because you don't understand them. I don't understand why people like her but I'm not going to sit there and say your 'grasping at straws' for it. But yes, I dislike it when someone is interested and they try and play it like their not while also getting information. I find it cowardly, save the confusion and be upfront. And jealousy when you've just met someone is unacceptable to me, its possessive and weird. She doesn't know Clem and right off the bat is jealous? It'd be one thing if they knew each other beyond a day. And I didn't say her opening up to Clem was an issue to me. I said I don't get why it makes her special. We literally have two other characters that do it.
I think everyone admits that walking pinata was stupid as all hell. But the fact that some people still like him over Violet, even after that, says something.
Well it's not like I'm trying to change your opinion but rather, we're in a forum and we're making a discussion about this game...
The girl really attracted from Clem, so she felt some tiny jealousy and I still can't see anything possessive in it. She wasn't screaming like "be mine", she was having her jealousy from inside as she was newly growing an attraction towards the stranger she've just met. Though she still didn't rush things.
So yeah, I got my answer, you dislike her just to dislike her.
We are different people, we see things differently. I don't dislike her just to dislike her, your just unable to accept anyone disliking a character you like. But this is a discussion about the animosity towards Violet. I'm answering that question because its the topic of this thread. If it bothers you so much than maybe you shouldn't be on this thread?
And, also, I'm completely open to my opinion of her changing as the season goes on, I just don't like her in episode 1. That's one episode out of four. I've had my opinion on characters change before. Whose to say that I won't end up liking her? For all anyone knows I'll like her way better than Luis by the end of this.
Its not really your problem so don't worry about it.