Why Is There So Much Animosity Towards Violet?

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  • edited August 2018

    Not how I saw it. He was messing with her because they've known each other and its part of their dynamic, it had nothing to do with Clem. Its not flirting when your poking fun at someone else's fighting technique. He didn't even have to bring up Violet at all, he'd alrdy 'flirted' with Clem by complimenting her skills. So he literally did it to have fun with Violet because the both of them have fun by messing with each other. And I don't see her as being a 'little mean' I see her as being insufferable.

  • That's not how I saw it. And you seeing violet as being insufferable is your opinion. I think louis is the insufferable one.

    GamerLady posted: »

    Not how I saw it. He was messing with her because they've known each other and its part of their dynamic, it had nothing to do with Clem. It

  • LazyAlexLazyAlex Banned
    edited August 2018

    No, that's exactly what it means, because that was a perfect example of friends teasing each other. He didn't get offended when she flipped him off, he just jokingly raised her score. If you don't think or realize that the joke character was joking, then... You just have a bias against him, as shown in all of your previous posts, as I've told you numerous times. You can not like the dude, nothing wrong with that, but saying he was ''insulting'' and not joking is just objectively false

  • edited August 2018

    I already know how you saw it, you explained that to what I was responding to. And yes, as I said in my post I see Violet as insufferable. That is completely my opinion. And, okay? I don't know why you really keep bringing Luis up when this is a thread about Violet? But, believe me, you've made it clear you don't like Luis. Which is fine with me.

    Scythenger posted: »

    That's not how I saw it. And you seeing violet as being insufferable is your opinion. I think louis is the insufferable one.

  • LazyAlexLazyAlex Banned
    edited August 2018

    A lot of shippers do this, they feel somewhat threatened by the other side, so much that they need to constantly bash it and slander it just to feel better about their choice.

    GamerLady posted: »

    I already know how you saw it, you explained that to what I was responding to. And yes, as I said in my post I see Violet as insufferable. T

  • To you but not to me. I didn't see it as a joke.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    No, that's exactly what it means, because that was a perfect example of friends teasing each other. He didn't get offended when she flipped

  • I don't like louis and I brought him up because I think he's the one that deserves the animosity and not violet.

    GamerLady posted: »

    I already know how you saw it, you explained that to what I was responding to. And yes, as I said in my post I see Violet as insufferable. T

  • The thing is, it doesn't really matter what you saw, because you clearly have a strong bias against him, so of course everything he does is shitty in you eyes, while I can more clearly perceive it as what it is: a simple joke between friends, something every normal person does without offending or getting offended. I can see it more clearly because unlike you, I'm not looking for reasons to bash the guy, talk about how horrible he is, and how much Violet is better. I look at it with a neutral point of view.

    Scythenger posted: »

    To you but not to me. I didn't see it as a joke.

  • I'm not exactly sure what there is to be threatened about. It's not like it's one or the other, they both gonna be in as options.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    A lot of shippers do this, they feel somewhat threatened by the other side, so much that they need to constantly bash it and slander it just to feel better about their choice.

  • I probably would've felt the same, but honestly, I just wish Brody had gotten some more actual character focus in her own right.
    Especially since "angry, controversial leader guy" tends to get a lot more long-term relevance, thus not making her chances of posthumous development very confident.

    @Razer531 I guess she's being kinda rude to people like Brody for no reason

    The idea was that she somewhat blamed Brody for what allegedly happened and couldn't interact with her for long without getting mad.

    Also, when Louis tells her she had B performance, I mean it's not like Louis has bad intentions or anything, why immediately take it so personal by telling him to fuck off and show middle finger??

    Eh, I just assumed that's how they normally get along anyway, as shown a number of times later.

    GamerLady posted: »

    So I went fishing with Violet and Brody... agh.... I wish Brody would've been our option instead of Violet. She was incredibly sweet! And Vi

  • I agree with you, but some people (the hardcore shippers) don't see it like that, they need to prove that they are better, and that the other side is shit. That's why shipping wars exist

    GamerLady posted: »

    I'm not exactly sure what there is to be threatened about. It's not like it's one or the other, they both gonna be in as options.

  • Why does it matter to you what other people think? People can like or dislike whatever they want, it's not about deserving it. And if your gonna go about it like that then keep in mind literally every person whose got 'animosity' towards Violet feels she deserves it.

    Scythenger posted: »

    I don't like louis and I brought him up because I think he's the one that deserves the animosity and not violet.

  • I'm not looking for reasons because I already have them. And it's not bias. It's my opinions and if you're saying that it doesn't matter then yours don't either.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    The thing is, it doesn't really matter what you saw, because you clearly have a strong bias against him, so of course everything he does is

  • I know that.

    GamerLady posted: »

    Why does it matter to you what other people think? People can like or dislike whatever they want, it's not about deserving it. And if your g

  • I've actually said positive things about louis. So everything you said from me being biased, hating him unconditionally is wrong. And I like to talk about violet. I'm not saying she's better than louis at this and that. I'm talking about her because I like her.

  • From what I saw, all you did was talk about why he is the wrong choice, and how much he sucks. Even if you talked about him in a good way, I'd say it was a 90/10, with the majority being you shitting on him. And yes, you are 100% biased towards Violet, to the point where a joke was called an insult by you, so you can't say anything there. If you truly weren't biased, you wouldn't feel so offended for your idol just because a friend was teasing her.

    Scythenger posted: »

    I've actually said positive things about louis. So everything you said from me being biased, hating him unconditionally is wrong. And I like

  • Not a 100% biased. It's my opinion that it wasn't a joke. And I didn't get so offended. I just didn't like it. A joke is suppose to be funny and it wasn't to me.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    From what I saw, all you did was talk about why he is the wrong choice, and how much he sucks. Even if you talked about him in a good way, I

  • LazyAlexLazyAlex Banned
    edited August 2018

    The result of a joke being funny or not, and the intention behind it are 2 different separate things. I can see why you thought it wasn't funny, that's fair. But, it was undeniably a joke, funny or not, it literally can't be called an insult because that wasn't the intention.

    Scythenger posted: »

    Not a 100% biased. It's my opinion that it wasn't a joke. And I didn't get so offended. I just didn't like it. A joke is suppose to be funny and it wasn't to me.

  • edited August 2018

    "You've done better" 'don't be jealous" "be better" to me that's disrespectful and shows smugness. He even points to himself when he says be better. Like he was saying he was better than her and that she was beneath him. Which is ridiculous and displays arrogance. That's how I interpret what he said. And that along with other things made me dislike him. And that's just how I feel.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    The result of a joke being funny or not, and the intention behind it are 2 different separate things. I can see why you thought it wasn't fu

  • edited August 2018

    Well I have smugness humor so its not actually uncommon. You joke about yourself as being amazing... I mean, I am amazing so its not like a legit joke but its a 'joke' for the average people's and helps them feel better.

    Hahaha, see? Its smug and arrogant but its not to be taken seriously. And if you get the face right, its even funnier. But its true that some (most) people don't actually find it funny. I've had a few eye-rolls in my day.

    Scythenger posted: »

    "You've done better" 'don't be jealous" "be better" to me that's disrespectful and shows smugness. He even points to himself when he says be

  • Me and my gal pals answer the phone with 'What yah want hooka?!' I mean, we say worse things, but that's prob the nicest one there.... And semi censored....

  • Ever having a friend has nothing to do with a personal opinion. He said violet's done better then compared violet and clem and said clem did better then told violet to be better. The way that was said and done was condescending to me.

  • Having a friend has to do with THIS opinion because that's how teenager friends act.

    Scythenger posted: »

    Ever having a friend has nothing to do with a personal opinion. He said violet's done better then compared violet and clem and said clem did better then told violet to be better. The way that was said and done was condescending to me.

  • That's how I feel.

    GamerLady posted: »

    Well I have smugness humor so its not actually uncommon. You joke about yourself as being amazing... I mean, I am amazing so its not like a

  • Not all of them.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    Having a friend has to do with THIS opinion because that's how teenager friends act.

  • LazyAlexLazyAlex Banned
    edited August 2018

    Most of them (the normal ones). Talking about guys though, I don't know about girls.

    Scythenger posted: »

    Not all of them.

  • No one deserves animosity. : ) he’s a kind person who doesn’t deserve the hate

    Scythenger posted: »

    I don't like louis and I brought him up because I think he's the one that deserves the animosity and not violet.

  • I've had guy friends and they've never said anything like that to me and vice versa. Idk about girls either.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    Most of them (the normal ones). Talking about guys though, I don't know about girls.

  • That's true. Violet doesn't deserve the hate either. Does she have hate? does anyone actually hate her?

    Leegendary posted: »

    No one deserves animosity. : ) he’s a kind person who doesn’t deserve the hate

  • All I know, is that I can't trust a dude to be my friend if we're not roasting each other on a daily basis.

    Scythenger posted: »

    I've had guy friends and they've never said anything like that to me and vice versa. Idk about girls either.

  • Idk about a daily basis but I could deal with an occasional roast.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    All I know, is that I can't trust a dude to be my friend if we're not roasting each other on a daily basis.

  • People on both sides are hating but mostly violet fans

    Scythenger posted: »

    That's true. Violet doesn't deserve the hate either. Does she have hate? does anyone actually hate her?

  • edited August 2018

    Didn't mean to post to this.

    Scythenger posted: »

    I know that.

  • Its an acquired taste.
    But its how Violet and Luis seem to have fun with each other, by competing and dissing. Its rly more guy humor though which I think goes into why she said 'it gets a little too bro-town for me' because she seems to mostly hang with Marlon and Luis. But guys have a tendency to have fun in that way and they aren't sensitive with each other, I'm guessing Violet just ended being considered 'one of the bros.' I used to work with mostly males and it was the same for me, I'd say they were a bit nicer but still joked around with me like that. I just dished it back and it was fun. They aren't being mean-spirited, its just their way of verbal rough-housing.

    Scythenger posted: »

    That's how I feel.

  • Are they hating now or is it just whatever?

    Leegendary posted: »

    People on both sides are hating but mostly violet fans

  • It is definitely an acquired taste.

    GamerLady posted: »

    Its an acquired taste. But its how Violet and Luis seem to have fun with each other, by competing and dissing. Its rly more guy humor thoug

  • I don’t mean to be rude by this but violetine fans are getting to be really toxic. I would ship it if the fans weren’t how they are

    Scythenger posted: »

    Are they hating now or is it just whatever?

  • edited August 2018

    I think when it comes to this kind of humor women are tad bit more sensitive than guys. Its probably best for women not to play this game together... Its fine if they get it and are playing it with the bros, but not with the hoes.
    That's how cat-fights get started.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    Most of them (the normal ones). Talking about guys though, I don't know about girls.

  • Strongly dislike, but not hate- No.

    Scythenger posted: »

    That's true. Violet doesn't deserve the hate either. Does she have hate? does anyone actually hate her?

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