Boobs: an artistic discussion

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  • edited April 2010
    While that last post was interesting, I've got to say there is no way a busty woman would not wear a bra if she were involved in any kind of athletic activity, let alone an action heroine. It's not only painful it completely throws off your sense of gravity.
  • edited April 2010
    Lena_P wrote: »
    While that last post was interesting, I've got to say there is no way a busty woman would not wear a bra if she were involved in any kind of athletic activity, let alone an action heroine. It's not only painful it completely throws off your sense of gravity.
    That reminds me of this Wapsi Square strip... :)
  • edited April 2010
    Lena_P wrote: »
    While that last post was interesting, I've got to say there is no way a busty woman would not wear a bra if she were involved in any kind of athletic activity, let alone an action heroine. It's not only painful it completely throws off your sense of gravity.

    I get the same problem when I don't wear briefs.
  • edited April 2010
    Thanks for that mental image.
  • edited April 2010
    would anyone mind a Penis an artistic discussion for fairness

    I don't think anyone would mind but I doubt avistew could be so helpful in that thread. Unless her husband is available for consultation.

    Incidentally, I think this could come in handy for everyone in here.
    http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/dan-macsai/popwise/naked-truth-about-presselites-nude-it-iphone-app?nav=inform-rl
  • edited April 2010
    Lena_P wrote: »
    While that last post was interesting, I've got to say there is no way a busty woman would not wear a bra if she were involved in any kind of athletic activity, let alone an action heroine. It's not only painful it completely throws off your sense of gravity.

    I agree on both accounts, but as Paul Klee said, art doesn't reproduce what's visible: it makes things visible.
    In other words, learn the rules, use the rules and break the rules to share your message.
    Comparing the two females in that article, you do get a feel of the first one being more about comfort and the second about fashion. Sure one wouldn't go running around braless with these kinds of breasts, but the purpose is filled, we get an impression of the character with a glance, and often that's what it is all about, especially in sequential art.
  • edited April 2010
    Hey avistew, I just had an idea how you might be able to post nude pictures on here (*ahem*... for artistic purposes, of course lol.)


    ..Body paint. If you got an outfit/swimsuit painted on yourself, then you could perhaps take a photo of yourself.

    idk, it works for Sports Illustrated.
  • edited April 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Hey avistew, I just had an idea how you might be able to post nude pictures on here (*ahem*... for artistic purposes, of course lol.)


    ..Body paint. If you got an outfit/swimsuit painted on yourself, then you could perhaps take a photo of yourself.

    idk, it works for Sports Illustrated.

    Hey, I could do that too!

    brb.
  • edited April 2010
    This thread got interesting again...
  • edited April 2010
    I wonder how many PMs she has gotten begging for those photos.
  • edited April 2010
    I'm guessing somewhere in the thousands.
  • edited April 2010
    Fealiks wrote: »
    I get the same problem when I don't wear briefs.

    I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not because I always thought that was the point of a cup and jock strap (have I really been wrong this whole time?)
    Avistew wrote: »
    I agree on both accounts, but as Paul Klee said, art doesn't reproduce what's visible: it makes things visible.
    In other words, learn the rules, use the rules and break the rules to share your message.
    Comparing the two females in that article, you do get a feel of the first one being more about comfort and the second about fashion. Sure one wouldn't go running around braless with these kinds of breasts, but the purpose is filled, we get an impression of the character with a glance, and often that's what it is all about, especially in sequential art.

    Except as a busty woman the first one doesn't look comfortable to me at all. Even if I spend most of the day just sitting I have to wear a bra, otherwise my neck gets very sore. The "sexy" woman with the cleavage looks more prepared for physical activity to me, since pushing in and together is what you need from a sports bra.
  • edited April 2010
    I've had 0 PMs asking for pictures, actually. Of course now that you've mentioned it people might start bugging me about it.

    It's a good idea, Chyron, but a) I'd need to buy body paint and b) I'm not sure what other pictures might be needed. I feel I've filled my intended purpose. Although earlier my husband was talking about how liked watching my breasts float (we were taking a bath), and I thought "oh right, I forgot to mention: they float in water, too."
    But I don't think pictures of that would be practical at all, body paint or not.
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Although earlier my husband was talking about how liked watching my breasts float (we were taking a bath), and I thought "oh right, I forgot to mention: they float in water, too."
    But I don't think pictures of that would be practical at all, body paint or not.

    Don't know why but that just made me laugh, also interesting.
  • edited April 2010
    Makes sense, though, fat floats on water.
  • edited April 2010
    @avistew
    You could always post said photos in advance, just in case of such an occurrence. :D
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Makes sense, though, fat floats on water.

    However, silicone does not, so fake boobs sink. It's been scientifically proven. At least, as much as Manswers can be called scientific proof.

    Now I wonder how I saw that. I rarely watch TV, and when I do, I don't watch Spike...
  • edited April 2010
    However, silicone does not, so fake boobs sink. It's been scientifically proven. At least, as much as Manswers can be called scientific proof.

    Now I'm picturing guys trying to get women into water to see it their breasts will float or sink xD
    Sounds scientific enough though. You know, experiments, and stuff... And naked/swimsuited women out of water as the control group... That kind of things.
  • edited April 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    @avistew
    You could always post said photos in advance, just in case of such an occurrence. :D

    The desire for boobs is stron in this one.
  • edited April 2010
    Speaking as a man, I'm sure if such a thing ever happens, science will only be an excuse, not the actual reason.


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    Fealiks wrote: »
    The desire for boobs is stron in this one.

    Hey! I can't joke about how she would actually post nude pictures if only we all knew no one would get banned or fired, or threads locked for it?

    I'm married. I don't need such photos. I ask her, jokingly if she would consider posting nude photos if only [create specific circumstance] was met, and she gives a serious answer as though she's really considering it. This conversation is just begging to be laughed at.
  • edited April 2010
    I finally convinced my friend to play tales and when she booted up the game in the "Join us on the forums!" column, this was the first thread to show up.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    I bet it has the highest views-to-posts ratio of any thread on the forums ever. Probably because "artists" keep checking back to "reference" avistew's pics. ;)
  • edited April 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    I bet it has the highest views-to-posts ratio of any thread on the forums ever. Probably because "artists" keep checking back to "reference" avistew's pics. ;)
    The "Any Losties?" and "What do you look like?" threads have comparable, if not better, ratios(I hate maths and refuse to do them).
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    I realised that about 20 seconds after posting, and wondered how long it would take for someone to slap me down. Thanks Dashing! :p
  • edited April 2010
    Rather Dashing: Dashing to slap your slightly inaccurate statements down in 10 minutes or less!
  • edited April 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    I bet it has the highest views-to-posts ratio of any thread on the forums ever. Probably because "artists" keep checking back to "reference" avistew's pics. ;)

    You know, my pics aren't even especially appealing. It's not like I wore sexy clothes or anything.
    But I keep seeing comments like that. Are you guys easy to satisfy, too polite or just joking? I wonder.
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    You know, my pics aren't even especially appealing. It's not like I wore sexy clothes or anything.
    But I keep seeing comments like that. Are you guys easy to satisfy, too polite or just joking? I wonder.
    I think the majority of the people acting this way are Americans. I'm an American, it certainly has its benefits, but our culture is...interesting, to put it nicely.

    American men are generally more repressed about their sexuality than most. It's not to the point of, for example, Japan's men that end up so repressed that they end up forming unhealthy fetishes(that spawn an entire hostess club industry), but it's enough to cause problems and differences in how people view things. The breast is taboo and almost entirely sexual in an American context.

    It's just a cultural difference. I'd say your culture's way of handling things is a good deal more healthy. Repression and dishonesty aren't good for the mind.

    SIDE NOTE: When I say "American", I am speaking from the perspective of a person who has lived along the east coast and consumed far too much American mass media. I understand ideas about this sort of thing do vary a bit by area, but I think on the whole the nation is still more repressed than many European nations.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Are you guys easy to satisfy, too polite or just joking? I wonder.

    I'm all three!

    No, I'm just joking, I think most others are too. I guess it's comment-worthy because no one has been kind/brave enough to do such a thing here before (as far as I'm aware), so people want to have a little bit of fun with it. :)
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Now I'm picturing guys trying to get women into water to see if their breasts will float or sink xD

    So that was the real business behind all those witch hunts! Didn't know they had breast implants back in the 17th century ...

    Anyway, I always look at the face first, so disembodied heads will catch my interest faster than photos of just a torso.
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Now I'm picturing guys trying to get women into water to see it their breasts will float or sink xD

    Sounds like 21st century witch-trials.
  • edited April 2010
    I think the majority of the people acting this way are Americans. I'm an American, it certainly has its benefits, but our culture is...interesting, to put it nicely.

    American men are generally more repressed about their sexuality than most. It's not to the point of, for example, Japan's men that end up so repressed that they end up forming unhealthy fetishes(that spawn an entire hostess club industry), but it's enough to cause problems and differences in how people view things. The breast is taboo and almost entirely sexual in an American context.

    It's just a cultural difference. I'd say your culture's way of handling things is a good deal more healthy. Repression and dishonesty aren't good for the mind.

    SIDE NOTE: When I say "American", I am speaking from the perspective of a person who has lived along the east coast and consumed far too much American mass media. I understand ideas about this sort of thing do vary a bit by area, but I think on the whole the nation is still more repressed than many European nations.

    Yeah, Britain's a lot like this. In fact, the British culture is way more similar to the American culture than most people tend to realise. Except we spell "realise" without a "z" which is just wrong.
  • edited April 2010
    dang Brits. Why you gotta spell stuff weird or have odd slang terms for everything that make no sense?
    It boggles the mind. ;)
  • edited April 2010
    I think the majority of the people acting this way are Americans. I'm an American, it certainly has its benefits, but our culture is...interesting, to put it nicely.

    American men are generally more repressed about their sexuality than most. It's not to the point of, for example, Japan's men that end up so repressed that they end up forming unhealthy fetishes(that spawn an entire hostess club industry), but it's enough to cause problems and differences in how people view things. The breast is taboo and almost entirely sexual in an American context.

    It's just a cultural difference. I'd say your culture's way of handling things is a good deal more healthy. Repression and dishonesty aren't good for the mind.

    SIDE NOTE: When I say "American", I am speaking from the perspective of a person who has lived along the east coast and consumed far too much American mass media. I understand ideas about this sort of thing do vary a bit by area, but I think on the whole the nation is still more repressed than many European nations.

    It's a shame that all over the world, at least the western society's are mimicking America's in this way. The mass influence of American media in Western civilisation has that effect. I remember when I was younger we had Wicky the Viking (a cartoon), Wicky could go swimming and he'd just jump around nude, it was harmless, a child swimming, having fun. Nowadays people would see that as pedophelia. Even in the David the Gnome cartoons to show the difference between the gnome male and female, the female would be topless, but nobody saw that as politically incorrect. I just don't get the big fuss over nudity. Are children not sucking their mother's breasts the first year or something of their life? Haven't they ever taken a shower with their father? Society is trying to protect them from something, but from what? It's the same with smoking, Lucky Luke smoked when I was young, yet I never picked it up. It's when things get banned or censored that people start obsessing about them. And the way this is going, there's going to be a whole lot more things to obsess about.
    It's really is a pity that society's going this way... :(
  • edited April 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    dang Brits. Why you gotta spell stuff weird or have odd slang terms for everything that make no sense?
    It boggles the mind. ;)
    IMO it's mostly the American who spell things weirdly, and I'm Dutch, so I guess that makes me an impartial judge :p . I agree about the slang though. All foreign countries have silly slang.
    Joop wrote: »
    It's a shame that all over the world, at least the western society's are mimicking America's in this way. The mass influence of American media in Western civilisation has that effect. I remember when I was younger we had Wicky the Viking (a cartoon), Wicky could go swimming and he'd just jump around nude, it was harmless, a child swimming, having fun. Nowadays people would see that as pedophelia. Even in the David the Gnome cartoons to show the difference between the gnome male and female, the female would be topless, but nobody saw that as politically incorrect. I just don't get the big fuss over nudity. Are children not sucking their mother's breasts the first year or something of their life? Haven't they ever taken a shower with their father? Society is trying to protect them from something, but from what? It's the same with smoking, Lucky Luke smoked when I was young, yet I never picked it up. It's when things get banned or censored that people start obsessing about them. And the way this is going, there's going to be a whole lot more things to obsess about.
    It's really is a pity that society's going this way... :(

    I agree. Luckily it's not so bad in the Netherlands.
  • edited April 2010
    Hey guys ... I just read parts of this thread and I think ... it made parts of my brain die off.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    I remember when I was younger we had Wicky the Viking (a cartoon), Wicky could go swimming and he'd just jump around nude, it was harmless, a child swimming, having fun.

    We had Vicky the Viking too! Was he really called Wicky in your country? Man I loved that show. We always had to leave super-early for school, so we'd set up the VHS timer to tape it and watch it when we got home in the afternoon.

    I remember the scene you're talking about too. I SO wanted to believe that Vicky was a girl - after all, the kid had long hair and a girly name (we know Vicky as a girl's name, short for Victoria). My older brother insisted that Vicky was a boy... well, the swimming scene certainly lost that argument for me. :p
    Joop wrote: »
    Even in the David the Gnome cartoons to show the difference between the gnome male and female, the female would be topless, but nobody saw that as politically incorrect.

    David the Gnome was another one of my absolute favourites. You have excellent, excellent taste in 1980s children's television (Mostly because it's the same as mine). :D

    I don't remember the scene you mentioned though, so either it was cut in Australia or it didn't even register as being out of the ordinary.

    Actually... was it in still diagrams (not animated)?

    Anyway, I agree with you about the nudity thing. There's nothing wrong with knowing what a normal human body looks like. Western culture is hugely over-sexualised.
    apenpaap wrote: »
    I agree about the slang though. All foreign countries have silly slang.

    It's bad between Brits and Aussies, because we use the same words but they mean entirely different things.

    For example, a group of women wearing black thongs in Oz is probably a lot less sexy than a Brit might think. In Australia, thongs are footwear. In Britain, they're underwear. Maybe it's the same in America?

    Don't get me started on why most Aussies will never pronounce the verb "route" as "root".
  • edited April 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    For example, a group of women wearing black thongs in Oz is probably a lot less sexy than a Brit might think. In Australia, thongs are footwear. In Britain, they're underwear. Maybe it's the same in America?

    It's a type of underwear in America, too, yeah. What do they call thongs in Australia, anyway?
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    It's a type of underwear in America, too, yeah. What do they call thongs in Australia, anyway?

    Thanks for that!

    Thong underwear in Australia is called a G-string. Or buttfloss. :p
  • edited April 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    Thanks for that!

    Thong underwear in Australia is called a G-string. Or buttfloss. :p
    I've also heard the shoes called "thongs" here in America(thought it was silly when I first heard it, though), and "G-String" is common for the underwear too. Buttfloss, um, not so much? :p
  • edited April 2010
    Americans call the underwear either a "thong" (or "thong underwear") or a "g-string," while also calling the footwear "thongs" or "flip-flops."
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