Boobs: an artistic discussion

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  • TorTor
    edited April 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    buttfloss
    That's awesome. Another thing I like about Australian English is all the cute abbreviated words that end in -ie; Aussie, barbie (barbecue), mozzie, chippie (carpenter), truckie, sparkie (electrician), bikkie (biscuit) etc.
  • edited April 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    We had Vicky the Viking too! Was he really called Wicky in your country?

    Yeah, he was called Wicky the Viking in our country, probably because the name Vicky is a girl name in the Netherlands too. Even so, there were a lot of discussions on the school playground on if Wicky was a boy or a girl.
    I always knew he was a boy though, because of the penis thing and because the dutch intro said "Angst voor de wolf maakt hem niet blij. (Fear of the wolf doesn't make him glad.)
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    David the Gnome was another one of my absolute favourites. You have excellent, excellent taste in 1980s children's television (Mostly because it's the same as mine). :D

    I don't remember the scene you mentioned though, so either it was cut in Australia or it didn't even register as being out of the ordinary.

    Actually... was it in still diagrams (not animated)?

    Wicky the Viking was a 70's show actually, but still in re-runs in the early 90's. But thanks for the compliment. ^^
    David de Kabouter (David the Gnome) I actually called my third parent. I learned so much from him. Me and my mom were literally in tears when he turned into a tree.
    And yes, it was shown in diagrams in the first episode.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    Even so, there were a lot of discussions on the school playground on if Wicky was a boy or a girl.

    I'm glad it wasn't just us!
    Joop wrote: »
    David de Kabouter (David the Gnome) I actually called my third parent. I learned so much from him. Me and my mom were literally in tears when he turned into a tree.

    Likewise with the learning thing, it was a major formative influence. And yes, it was so sad and poignant at the very end where they all went to become trees and poor Swift was left behind on his own! I cuddled up with my mum on the lounge, and we cried too. It's actually really cool to think of kids/parents on the other side of the world having the exact same response we did.

    That was heavy emotional stuff for children. They just don't make kid's television like that any m- *POOF*

    ^ Oh, I think that was the last of my youthful street cred evaporating.
  • edited April 2010
    Actually, I think Phineas and Ferb is one of the only tv shows that kinda hits that Pippi Longstocking classic cartoon vibe, that and Spongebob.

    Oh and, for the record, I too was confused when I hit Australian bottom to hear the word "thong" being spoken about so oftenly, only to find out they were talking about flip flops...

    You know what's really really weird to me? How (mostly) men can change a topic about boobs (I mean come on) to a topic about classic cartoons, flip flops and lingual slang.
    We must all be gay!
  • edited April 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    That's awesome. Another thing I like about Australian English is all the cute abbreviated words that end in -ie; Aussie, barbie (barbecue), mozzie, chippie (carpenter), truckie, sparkie (electrician), bikkie (biscuit) etc.

    I recently learned the word 'icy pole' which entertained me greatly.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    Another thing I like about Australian English is all the cute abbreviated words that end in -ie; Aussie, barbie (barbecue), mozzie, chippie (carpenter), truckie, sparkie (electrician), bikkie (biscuit) etc.

    "Leaguesie" (Returned Servicemen's League Club) has got to be one of my favourites.

    And let us not forget the fine tradition of -o words, like bowlo (bowling club), servo (service station), and bottle-o (bottle shop).

    We are nothing if not frugal with our syllables.

    (Damn you've made me homesick!) :p
    Joop wrote: »
    You know what's really really weird to me? How (mostly) men can change a topic about boobs (I mean come on) to a topic about classic cartoons, flip flops and lingual slang.

    Hey, there's still underwear involved. There is hope for the thread yet!
    Joop wrote: »
    We must all be gay!

    Or maybe classy, well-rounded human beings?

    ... Nah, definitely gay. :rolleyes:
  • edited April 2010
    It's not to the point of, for example, Japan's men that end up so repressed that they end up forming unhealthy fetishes(that spawn an entire hostess club industry), but it's enough to cause problems and differences in how people view things. The breast is taboo and almost entirely sexual in an American context.

    It's just a cultural difference. I'd say your culture's way of handling things is a good deal more healthy. Repression and dishonesty aren't good for the mind.

    Dishonesty? Some people aren't sexual people. That's why we have asexuality. You can't call it dishonesty just because some people have different feelings than you. As far as Japan, their culture and people may be repressed (I have my doubts about this somewhat, as I believe sex to be rampant in all cultures everywhere), but their cartoons definitely aren't. Crayon Shin Chan for instance, makes a joke out of a little boy's penis frequently, as he draws elephant ears above it and does the "elephant" dance. It also has frequent scenes of a little boy showing sexual attraction to grown bosomy women for comedic purposes, often asking for their milk (I'm pretty sure the Japanese version has this as well, but I may be wrong, it may just be the American dub that has the milk thing). There are numerous panty shots and breast shots in anime, and jokes about breasts and penises. Hajime No Ippo has frequent male nudity in men's showers, often with jokes regarding how the main character's penis is so much larger than his best friend's penis, causing a bit of comedic envy. In fact in Japanese culture, the penis and breast jokes and even showing of these parts seems to be the comedic equivalent of the buttocks or fart jokes in our own American culture. It's not always done for sexual purposes, although often it is done for that as well in terms of fanservice. Dragonball, a popular children's manga and anime has numerous shots of breasts and a shot of a girl's uncovered lower regions from behind for comedic purposes as well. And I'm pretty sure Dragonball has always been marketed toward younger children. I can't say it's perverted, as it's all played up for comedy. British comedies that numerous children watch as well do this, such as Life of Brian, or Benny Hill.
  • edited April 2010
    I don't think he was talking about asexual people.

    Also, dick and tit jokes abound, people can still be sexually repressed.

    On a side note, I grew up with shin chan or what we called him in chinese "naughty little shin". It was a funny show.
  • edited April 2010
    @Secret Fawful

    dont forget the Yaoi sold in book shops next to other mangas (at lest here it is)
  • edited April 2010
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    I don't think he was talking about asexual people.

    Also, dick and tit jokes abound, people can still be sexually repressed.

    On a side note, I grew up with shin chan or what we called him in chinese "naughty little shin". It was a funny show.

    My point was, as I said, that while the people may be sexually repressed, their cartoons definitely are not.

    And I still doubt that repression. There are repressed people everywhere, as well as non-repressed people everywhere.
  • edited April 2010
    Dick and tit jokes are definitely not sexual at all. It might be that way in other places, but in Asian countries, its not the case. I guess it's a cultural thing.

    And I'm not saying that other places aren't sexually repressed, but I do have to say that in Japan it got kinda bad.
  • edited April 2010
    I recently learned the word 'icy pole' which entertained me greatly.

    That's only because we don't have popsicles here.
  • edited April 2010
    "large tracts of land"

    Best thread tag here. Whoever said that I salute you for extensive Pythonesquing.
  • edited April 2010
    I think "thong" for the underwear comes from the shoe's name. I can definitely see a similarity.

    In French, the shoes are "tongs" and the underwear is "string".

    Japan definitely seems repressed to me. Even holding hands seems to be considered a huge thing. And it does end up with weird stuff (vending machines that sell used underwear, the huge amount of people taking pictures under schoolgirl's skirts that led them to adding a huge noise to any picture-taking device, etc).

    On the other hand, they seem much more free in some of their things, yes. Like the erection algae and stuff. Personally I stick to my theory that the most repressed cultures result in the weirdest eccentrics. And the other people are way too polite and repressed to even comment :P
  • edited April 2010
    Hey people, let's not start judging cultures we have next to no experience with as repressed or not, okay? Let's focus on the important things, underwear and boobs. And whether or not guys can run comfortably wearing just a kilt. (Seriously, any male-types want to answer this one for me? Is it just that Scotland gets too cold for it to hang out as freely as it would in say ... the Bahamas or did Braveheart have a medieval cup?)
  • edited April 2010
    Sorry, didn't mean that as an insult. I guess it sounded like one... I offer my apologies, and admit I don't know what I'm talking about.

    I'll have to ask my husband about your question, Lena. Although, does it have to be while wearing a kilt, or can it be totally naked, too? I'm not sure there would be a huge difference.

    For running, I think it's still more practical to be a woman. I mean, at least you can use your hands and/or arms to contain your breasts. Seems harder doing the same down there for a guy. While running.
  • edited April 2010
    For running, I think it's still more practical to be a woman. I mean, at least you can use your hands and/or arms to contain your breasts. Seems harder doing the same down there for a guy. While running.

    I'll tell you what it is. It's an uncomfortable pain in the ass...or crotch...is what it is.
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    What, how come I didn't notice a thread about boobs earler...I like boobs, they make me happy...and I'm done.
  • edited April 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    What, how come I didn't notice a thread about boobs earler...I like boobs, they make me happy...and I'm done.

    Well, that was fast.
  • edited April 2010
    The only trouble I can remember from running nude is it just bumping from one leg to another. But that was in a snowstorm, so it wasn't a "big" deal. ;)
  • edited April 2010
    I prefer covering as much of my body as I can, and I'm always the last to dress in shorts and t-shirts, so going full monty is certainly out of the question. Except going from bedroom to bathroom or vice versa.
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    For running, I think it's still more practical to be a woman. I mean, at least you can use your hands and/or arms to contain your breasts. Seems harder doing the same down there for a guy. While running.
    Lena_P wrote: »
    Hey people, let's not start judging cultures we have next to no experience with as repressed or not, okay? Let's focus on the important things, underwear and boobs. And whether or not guys can run comfortably wearing just a kilt. (Seriously, any male-types want to answer this one for me? Is it just that Scotland gets too cold for it to hang out as freely as it would in say ... the Bahamas or did Braveheart have a medieval cup?)

    I've never ran naked or with a kilt so I wouldn't know, but I usually wear boxers (which are pretty loose) and there's absolutely no problem. I guess you can notice it, but it's not painful. If it is a problem at all for men, I don't think it's as big a problem as it is for some women.
  • edited April 2010
    I prefer covering as much of my body as I can, and I'm always the last to dress in shorts and t-shirts, so going full monty is certainly out of the question. Except going from bedroom to bathroom or vice versa.

    I'm quite the opposite then. I once even went the full monty to get a laugh in a theater play. And ofcourse there was that striptease in another play.
  • edited April 2010
    From what I've seen of you in your photos, I'm sure you'd only get looks of awe instead of revulsion ;)

    I'm just insecure about my body. I'm too thin, 1m76 and 53kg on a good day, and lack the patience (and appetite) to do something about it. Clothes make me look bigger.
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    I'm just insecure about my body. I'm too thin, 1m76 and 53kg on a good day, and lack the patience (and appetite) to do something about it. Clothes make me look bigger.
    1.88, a little under 60kg.
    I get annoyed by all those anti-obsesitas obsession. I mean, I eat unhealthy a lot more than most people, and still stay "thin". And then everyone goes whining on about how it would blow me up, and increases the money I need to spend on it... :(

    (But yeah, I hate my "body" too, as does everyone else...)
  • edited April 2010
    (But yeah, I hate my "body" too, as does everyone else...)

    Yeah, everyone hates their body. People also seem to hate people who don't hate their body :p
  • edited April 2010
    I don't hate my body........
    Do you all hate me now? :(
  • edited April 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Well, that was fast.
    ...teeehee. :D
  • edited April 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    I don't hate my body........
    Do you all hate me now? :(
    Yes. Now I have to get an atlast, find Panningen, bike over there and kick your ass.
    And I don't got time for all that. Darn it all!
  • edited April 2010
    Muahahahaha! Good thing I moved last monday!
    You'll never find me now!
  • edited April 2010
    Our plan has been foiled! Retreat!
  • edited April 2010
    I....I....I thought this was a family site?
  • edited April 2010
    I....I....I thought this was a family site?

    83% of the time.
  • edited April 2010
    This was never meant to be 'an artistic discussion', was it [rhetorical]? Even if it was, we've come a long way.
  • edited April 2010
    I....I....I thought this was a family site?

    ...it is...
    Who are you anyway? You're not some "government infiltrator" are you? ;)
  • edited April 2010
    This was never meant to be 'an artistic discussion', was it [rhetorical]? Even if it was, we've come a long way.
    Huh? I'm pretty sure a lot of discussion has happened along the lines of how to accurately portray the female breast in art, and how by understanding the rules you can know when to bend or break them for artistic reasons, and about the physics of the female breast in various conditions(which is important if you want art that depicts, well, various conditions). Seems like an artistic enough discussion.
  • edited April 2010
    Okay then.
  • edited April 2010
    Huh? I'm pretty sure a lot of discussion has happened along the lines of how to accurately portray the female breast in art, and how by understanding the rules you can know when to bend or break them for artistic reasons, and about the physics of the female breast in various conditions(which is important if you want art that depicts, well, various conditions). Seems like an artistic enough discussion. **wink, wink, nudge, nudge**

    Fixed ;)
  • edited April 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    I don't hate my body........
    Do you all hate me now? :(

    No, I don't hate you. I just hate your body.
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