Overrated/Underrated

edited August 2010 in General Chat
The point of this is simple.. pick any of the following topics (or even a few of your own) & tell an overrated & underrated example of the topic.

Turn Based RPG Franchise

Over-Final Fantasy
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Under- Suikoden
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Fighting Franchise-

Over- Street Fighter
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Under- King of Fighters
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Zelda Game-

Over- Ocarina of Time
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Under- Link's Awakening
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Sega Platformer-

Over- Sonic the Hedgehog
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Under- Billy Hatcher

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  • edited July 2010
    Life Simulator-

    Over- The Sims
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    Under- Animal Crossing
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    FPS Series-

    Over- Halo
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    Under- Unreal
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    Video Game Weapon-

    Over- Gun
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    Under- Whip
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  • edited July 2010
    Horror Franchise-


    Over- Resident Evil
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    Under- Fatal Frame
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    Worst Game Ever Made-

    Over- ET
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    Under- Sonic '06
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    Adventure Games-

    Over- Monkey Island
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    Under- Zack & Wiki
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  • edited July 2010
    And I just put images because I felt like it... you don't have to if you don't want to.
  • edited July 2010
    Racing

    Over-Grand Turismo
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    Under-Need for Speed
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  • edited July 2010
    Online Games Sites:

    Overrated:
    Kongregate (www.kongregate.com)

    Underrated:
    Nitrome (www.nitrome.com)
  • edited July 2010
    animal crossing, under rated? wait, what?
  • edited July 2010
    Not to mention Wind Waker and Fatal Frame. Also, come on man there are loads of horrible games out there that nobody has even heard of, Sonic 06 is way past the (well-deserved) overrated hate.
  • edited July 2010
    It is called an opinion.

    I am going on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. I offered you an opportunity to give yours as well... so if you disagree, give your own example instead of just saying that I'm wrong.

    I want to know your opinions on the subjects. That is the point of the thread.
  • edited July 2010
    Sonic '06 deserved it. They had the whole team working on it.

    ET had what, 5 people working on it for like a week.
    I still thinks it's fun.

    Comedy Movies:
    Overrated: Napoleon Dynamite - Is still heralded as the best movie ever

    Underrated: UHF - The only person who gave it a good review apologized for giving it said review.
  • edited July 2010
    Overrated: Underrated things
    Underrated: Overrated things
  • edited July 2010
    Classic Rock

    Overrated: The Doors
    Underrated: Wings
  • edited July 2010
    Overrated: The Guitar Hero series
    Underrated: The PaRappa the Rapper series
  • edited July 2010
    Puzzle Games -

    Overrated -

    Professor Layton
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    Underrated-

    Puzzle Agent
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    Actors-

    Overrated-

    John Wayne
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    Underrated-

    Lee Van Cleef
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    Tomas Milian
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    Gian Maria Volonte
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    Franco Nero
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    Eli Wallach
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    Jason Robards
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    Tom Selleck. Sam Elliot. Jeff Osterhage.
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    Randolph Scott
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    EVERYONE IS MORE UNDERRATED THAN JOHN WAYNE
  • edited July 2010
    the point of this thread is simple.. Pick any of the following topics (or even a few of your own) & tell an overrated & an underrated example of the topic.

    RPG franchise
    over-final fantasy

    Zelda game-
    over- ocarina of time

    Adventure games-
    over- monkey island

    Lies! :mad:
  • edited July 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Lies! :mad:

    Opinions.

    ...which I happen to share.
    Professor Layton

    Indeed! I got the first in the series and just couldn't accept that some puzzles are so poorly presented that the only chance of "solving" them is guessing the answer. I'll give Puzzle Agent a try instead since I trust Telltale more.
  • edited July 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Lies! :mad:

    Its not like I said they suck, I just said that they are highly overrated. They are put on a pedestal & in many people's minds they are put on it so high that it is to the point that everything sucks by comparison to them... which is both untrue & unfair.

    ALSO....
    It is called an opinion.

    I am going on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. I offered you an opportunity to give yours as well... so if you disagree, give your own example instead of just saying that I'm wrong.

    I want to know your opinions on the subjects. That is the point of the thread.
    Debbie82 wrote: »
    Overrated: The Guitar Hero series
    Underrated: The PaRappa the Rapper series

    I thought of that one too... I just didn't feel like finding more pics at the time LOL
  • edited July 2010
    Another one I wanted to do but was too lazy to bother with at the time

    Action RPG Franchise

    Over- Kingdom Hearts
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    Under- The Tales Series
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  • edited July 2010
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    EDIT: Seriously though, I don't see much of a point in this thread other than to troll and/or be pretentious for the sake of being pretentious. I would like to hear why you think Street Fighter is overrated and King of Fighters is underrated, though. I like both series, although in terms of latest inputs, SSFIV is definitely faaar better than KoF12.

    EDIT2: And I wouldn't really consider the Tales games Action RPGs either, at least not to the same extent that Kingdom Hearts is.
  • edited July 2010
    I can't do anything on this damn forum without being called a troll...
    People wonder why I'm so angry all the time... well look at DoctorCello's post. I mean how is this any different from the countless other threads where people talk about underrated things? I just combined them all into a thread that I thought might be fun for people.

    I'm truly sorry if you are offended by my posts, but at the same time I 'm willing to bet that YOU aren't sorry for starting this thread

    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17630

    or contributing to this thread

    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16064&highlight=Overrated&page=3

    Also if you had read my other post
    Its not like I said they suck, I just said that they are highly overrated. They are put on a pedestal & in many people's minds they are put on it so high that it is to the point that everything sucks by comparison to them... which is both untrue & unfair.

    Continued*
  • edited July 2010
    *Continued*
    You would realise that I don't think that Street Fighter sucks... in fact it is my favorite fighting series. All I'm saying is that it is put on a pedestal as the greatest fighting series ever made & alot of fighting fans believe that nothing can come close to touching it. Which results in amazing games like King of Fighters often being overlooked.... which is just ridiculous.

    The Tales Series are not action RPGs? Well that is honestly the first time I have ever heard that... reviewers call them action RPGs, fans call them action RPGs, The company itself even calls them action RPGs.

    I would like to stress that this thread was in no way meant as an insult to any of these games (Minus ET & Sonic '06) or any fans of them... so if any of you took offense to my opinions, then I don't know what to say but I am TRULY sorry.
  • edited July 2010
    Electronic Artists:

    Overrated: Daft Punk
    Underrated: deadmau5
  • edited July 2010
    I like how this is branching out to include things other than games.... so in the spirit of things....

    Power Metal Band

    Over- Dragonforce
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s

    Under- Cellador
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7hr-Ky8tg

    In truth, I don't like a whole lot of power metal, but Cellador is a pretty awesome & TOTALLY UNDERRATED band.

    Going further with the truth, I REALLY wanted to put Edguy... but they really only have a few scattered power metal songs. Still they are AMAZING & one of my top 15 favorite bands.
  • edited July 2010
    Gotta say, I don't understand why a product being overrated or underrated have to do with how much I enjoy said product. To me, somethings are good and somethings suck. Whether or not there's a ton of people who enjoy it or not is irrelevant.
  • edited July 2010
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    animal crossing, under rated? wait, what?

    That's how I felt about NFS. If anything GT is underrated compared to Nee dfor Speed. Everyone I've ever met hates GT and loves Need For Speed.
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    Gotta say, I don't understand why a product being overrated or underrated have to do with how much I enjoy said product. To me, somethings are good and somethings suck. Whether or not there's a ton of people who enjoy it or not is irrelevant.


    True. I think people putting too much focus on something being popular to play it is a shame. Like all my friends say I hate Halo because it's popular, when I simply prefer CS 1.6, DoD(S), Half-Life, Prey, Duke Nukem, MW, and TF2. Yet they always try to say I hate it despite it being popular, except all those games were/are (Prey is disputible but it did sell out on STEAM) popular.

    I would like to say for fighting games though: Street Fighter for over rated and BlazBlue for under.
  • edited July 2010
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    Gotta say, I don't understand why a product being overrated or underrated have to do with how much I enjoy said product. To me, somethings are good and somethings suck. Whether or not there's a ton of people who enjoy it or not is irrelevant.

    & I'm all for that... I like both mainstream & underground stuff. As a matter of fact I like almost everything that I said was overrated.

    The point of this thread is to compare & contrast as if to say "well you like this super mainstream thing, so why don't you give this thing of lesser mainstream value a chance". It isn't meant as an attack on any of your personal tastes by any means.
  • edited July 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    That's how I felt about NFS. If anything GT is underrated compared to Nee dfor Speed. Everyone I've ever met hates GT and loves Need For Speed.

    In my defense, where I live nobody has even heard of Animal Crossing. However The Sims games just fly off of the shelfs. In truth, game stores around here have a hard time keeping The Sims in stock, but there are stacks of Animal Crossing games on the sames stores' shelves. The same could possibly be said of the dude who said Need 4 Speed.
  • edited July 2010
    I'm loving the tags for this thread though.
    I guess Animal Crossing can make some sense since Nintendo only advertised it to hell when the Wii one came out. I saw comercials non-stop with the Wii one of the game, same goes for Need For Speed.
  • edited July 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    I'm loving the tags for this thread though.
    I guess Animal Crossing can make some sense since Nintendo only advertised it to hell when the Wii one came out. I saw comercials non-stop with the Wii one of the game, same goes for Need For Speed.

    I think I'm missing the point of your post....

    Are you being sarcastic?

    & my what a clever bunch we have here... I guess some people can't handle that people have a different opinion than them/are trying to turn people onto other things that are similar but are not as well known.
  • edited July 2010
    No I was saying I could see how AC is hard to know as they didn't advertise it untill the Wii one, but they advertised it quite a bit.
    With NFS they've always just advertised that series though.

    I can see now how my post would be confusing to understand though.
  • edited July 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    No I was saying I could see how AC is hard to know as they didn't advertise it untill the Wii one, but they advertised it quite a bit.
    With NFS they've always just advertised that series though.

    I can see now how my post would be confusing to understand though.

    I thought that is what you were saying, but I was just making sure :D
  • edited July 2010
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  • edited July 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    I guess Animal Crossing can make some sense since Nintendo only advertised it to hell when the Wii one came out.

    Really? I remember a bunch of different commercials with the first one, where they made it seem like The Real World or something. Though I particularly remember the Wild World commercial the most, because of how horrifying it was.
  • edited July 2010
    I've never seen a Wild World one, and you were right about the orignal Animal Crossing one, but I forgot about because of how little they advertised it.
  • edited July 2010
    This thread has absolutely no substance. Maybe I could see the point if there was actual discussion about why each of these things is over/underrated, but right now it just seems like a venue for "it's popular so it sucks".
  • edited July 2010
    This thread has absolutely no substance. Maybe I could see the point if there was actual discussion about why each of these things is over/underrated, but right now it just seems like a venue for "it's popular so it sucks".

    I agree...a lot of the reasons things are popular is because they were well done, and they have a following doesn't mean they're over-rated.
  • edited July 2010
    The point of this thread is to compare & contrast as if to say "well you like this super mainstream thing, so why don't you give this thing of lesser mainstream value a chance". It isn't meant as an attack on any of your personal tastes by any means.

    This has nothing to do with things sucking because they are popular & being awesome because they aren't. The point was to enlighten people to underrated gems in the same genre as a mega popular thing that is hyped as though it is some sort of second coming. If you still don't get my point, then quite honestly there isn't much more I can say.... This thread will live on regardless.
  • edited July 2010
    I can't do anything on this damn forum without being called a troll...

    Sir, when you go on a forum that you know is filled to the brim with Monkey Island fans and say "Monkey Island is overrated," that is called trolling, even if that's your real opinion. I mean, really, what's the point in that other than to purposefully cause backlash? I think James Cameron's Avatar is somewhat overrated, but I'm not going to go over to some Avatar forum and list all the reasons why I think their beloved film is overrated, especially since, despite my own problems with the film, I can clearly see why a lot of people love it so. There's seriously no reason to other than to either be a troll or to have another reason to feel smug about myself.
    I'm truly sorry if you are offended by my posts, but at the same time I 'm willing to bet that YOU aren't sorry for starting this thread

    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17630

    or contributing to this thread

    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16064&highlight=Overrated&page=3

    Ha. Haha. Really? Are you seriously trying to make me look like a hypocrite? Because if you looked at the context of those posts, you'd realize how futile such an attempt would be.

    I was tired of seeing people being pretentious and hating on popular things just because they were popular, so I created the 'Underrated Video Games' thread to counterbalance that. Have people talk about their guilty pleasures, start talking about the good things in life rather than the bad!

    And it would help if you actually read what I said about overrated games:
    Back to the subject at hand, I've, uh... Actually, I don't think I've ever played a game that I thought was overrated. Sure, I've played games that I didn't like as much as most people did, but in all such cases I felt like it was more my problem than the game's. Take most 3D fighters other than Soul Calibur. For some reason, I just can't get into games like Tekken and Virtua Fighter. However, these are games that a lot of people enjoy for whatever reason, and who am I to deny their appeal? If something is really popular, it's popular for a reason, you know? I'm not going to judge other people's tastes just because they like Halo or whatever (which, by the way, I've never played myself, and I'm not really sure how many people who claim to hate 'Halo' have either).

    Still the same opinion I hold today, man. So

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    You would realise that I don't think that Street Fighter sucks... in fact it is my favorite fighting series. All I'm saying is that it is put on a pedestal as the greatest fighting series ever made & alot of fighting fans believe that nothing can come close to touching it. Which results in amazing games like King of Fighters often being overlooked.... which is just ridiculous.

    First of all, I never accused you of saying "Street Fighter sucks;" I honestly wanted your opinion on why it was overrated. Because personally, in terms of balance and technical skill, I really don't think anything CAN come close to touching it. King of Fighters is fun and all, but it never felt as tight or as well-polished as any of the Street Fighter games (well... except EX, but we never speak of that). Sure, Street Fighter may not be as flashy as any of the Aksys games (Blazblue, Guilty Gear) or the Marvel vs. Capcom games, and it may not require a whole lot of memorization of the moves like a lot of 3D fighters do, but that's just what makes Street Fighter awesome; it's a pretty barebones fighter, so it all boils down to timing and how well opponents read each other.

    ...wow. Sorry for that tangent - I was watching EVO matches earlier, so I'm feeling really HYPE right about now.
    The Tales Series are not action RPGs? Well that is honestly the first time I have ever heard that... reviewers call them action RPGs, fans call them action RPGs, The company itself even calls them action RPGs.

    Well, okay. You win that one, I suppose. To me, though, an action RPG would have action elements a bit more seamlessly and not just in battle like Tales does, but I guess I can't argue with what everyone else says. :P
    I would like to stress that this thread was in no way meant as an insult to any of these games (Minus ET & Sonic '06) or any fans of them... so if any of you took offense to my opinions, then I don't know what to say but I am TRULY sorry.

    And I would like to stress myself that I don't get offended when people don't like the same games I like, so there's... really no need to apologize, at least for me. People who *do* get offended should consider growing thicker skin. :|
  • edited July 2010
    This has nothing to do with things sucking because they are popular & being awesome because they aren't. The point was to enlighten people to underrated gems in the same genre as a mega popular thing that is hyped as though it is some sort of second coming. If you still don't get my point, then quite honestly there isn't much more I can say.... This thread will live on regardless.

    You miss my point. I'm saying that just saying "this is overrated, this is underrated" without any discussion about why doesn't make for a very engaging thread. It seems that there's a lot of opportunity for intelligent discussion that's being lost here.
  • edited July 2010
    While I would love to do this point by point as you did, that simply isn't possible on the wii... so instead...

    1. As I have stated in several posts now, it isn't an attack on anything to state it is overrated... it is saying that it is the mega popular game that everybody holds on a pedestal. Zack & Wiki on the other hand is an awesome game that NOBODY played. I am saying.... well its good that you like Monkey Island now go play Zack & Wiki. Besides... not many people actually complained about it (you would make two).

    2. WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD

    3. I read what you said long before you reposted it. All I'm saying is that you didn't go on the same kind of tirade calling people trolls & what not on there, but you acted as if this thread was pure evil & disgusting.

    4. In many people's minds's that is precisely what makes it a better game.... you rely on your wits instead of learning to do a crap ton of 50 hit combo moves (I'm not saying that I agree, but I do feel that more people should give the games a chance.

    5. Not much to say to that

    6. Well considering the amount of hate in this thread & the consistent refusal to grasp the point of this thread (even after being informed multiple times) I honestly believe that there needs to be ALOT of skin growing.

    But enough of this... I refuse to let this thread get closed, so can we all please take this thread for what it is instead of what you are wanting make it out to be? I assure that this thread was started with good intentions... but a thread's ultimate intentions can only be as good as the mindset of the posters within it (which is the reason that I am so frantically trying to keep people on topic & explain my intentions *sadly this is more often than not futile anymore* on most of the threads that I'm on).
  • edited July 2010
    You miss my point. I'm saying that just saying "this is overrated, this is underrated" without any discussion about why doesn't make for a very engaging thread. It seems that there's a lot of opportunity for intelligent discussion that's being lost here.

    Then I invite you to do it. Please, please do it. The problem is that there is no chance for intelligent discussion between all of the bitter feelings & jumping to conclusions about my intentions. In fact I wanted this thread to turn into that, but with the PS3's wordcap, it simply wasn't possible in the first few posts.
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