Let me make one thing clear, This is not as good as the first one. But then again i was not really expecting it or Hangover Part 2 to be as good as the first one so i'm not going to hold it against the film. I have to say but i disagree with the critics. I went too it and i had a good time and laughed a lot. It is darker than Hangover 1 & 2. But lets face it, it feels to me everyone can't make up their minds. When Hangover 2 came out it was all ''Its too much like the first one!!!!!!, what a rip off!'' Now when they listen to them and try to make it different, the people once again start crying ''Its too different!!!!'' I did like the plot but i missed the mystery of the first two movies. The ending credits scene was freaking funny and i did like a good amount of jokes. I didn't like the way Alan acted in this one. He was too much of an asshole to almost everyone except Doug & Phil. I also like the references to the last two movies and how they go back to Las Vegas. Again i don't think its as good as the first one but it is better than the second one in my opinion.
Caught Star Trek: Into Darkness again last night. Initial score (8.10, I think) still stands.
My initial score still stands as well. Doubt I'll get to see it a third time before it goes out of theaters, so my next viewing will likely be on Blu-Ray(already pre-ordered through Amazon, got the set with the phaser replica).
Score on first watching was 9.975 (USS Voyager's maximum sustainable cruising speed)
Score on second watching is 9.2.
There's definitely about 15 or 20 minutes in there where I felt the movie was running long and so was checking my watch. But then the scene with Kirk and Spock in Engineering happened and from that point on I didn't care about the length anymore.
Doubt I'll get to see it a third time before it goes out of theaters, so my next viewing will likely be on Blu-Ray(already pre-ordered through Amazon, got the set with the phaser replica).
I may see it again in the regular theatre, but most certainly once it comes out in the dollar theatre I will go see it a few more times. It was the same with Star Trek (2009).
Oh, and after watching Into Darkness a second time, I would say that Star Trek (2009) is slightly better than Into Darkness at this point, simply because there is never a point in the first movie where I feel that it's running long.
There are a number of people I've talked to (most of whom are middle aged or older) who are going to see Star Trek now who never cared a bit about the Prime universe's movies or shows.
There are a number of people I've talked to (most of whom are middle aged or older) who are going to see Star Trek now who never cared a bit about the Prime universe's movies or shows.
What? Abrams movies are similar in the way their narratives are constructed to the degree that hurts the film.
I don't even know how to rate this. It fails everything. There. I'd write out my thoughts, but it would probably be more cohesive to just copy-paste the Skype chat I had with Dashing. Which I won't do, because it was looooooong.
But a taste of a line that I thought should have been included:
"YOU GOTTA BREATHE ALIEN DUDE"
"*choke* your air... toxic... blehhhh"
Also, Hal acts almost exactly like Hal in Megamind. Except he doesn't blow up the city because this Hal actually gets the girl. This isn't exactly a heartening similarity for the hero of a comic book movie to have.
I don't even know how to rate this. It fails everything. There. I'd write out my thoughts, but it would probably be more cohesive to just copy-paste the Skype chat I had with Dashing. Which I won't do, because it was looooooong.
Maybe so, but I'll bet it was really interesting. I'd actually quite like to see it, if you're cool with sharing it.
This movie was like amazing, bro. There were these crazy alienz that Will Smith had to punch 'cause he's like da man, ya know? He even gave a quip after punching da alienz. That shit was well funny. There was a lot of explosions and stuff and I liked the way that the big alienz ship was destroyed by a computer virus. That was like Sci-Fi shit, ya know what I mean?
I'm glad the dog survived that shit 'cause dogs is cool, bro. Overall, I'd give this movie like a 8 out of ten or something.
Alright, because Darth Marsden demanded it... THE TRANSCRIPT of what I thought of Green Lantern, with additional commentary by Dashing.
I warned you... this shit is loooooong.
[6/8/13 12:01:09 AM] Alcoremortis: Already, I have a major beef with the storytelling of this movie
[6/8/13 12:01:21 AM] Alcoremortis: I hate stories where they basically tell you who the bad guy is at the beginning
[6/8/13 12:01:54 AM] Alcoremortis: The audience should learn who the bad guy is along with the protagonist
[6/8/13 12:02:00 AM] Rather Dashing: Also the first 2 minutes is a massive info dump of things they then re-iterate better(but not much better) later on
[6/8/13 12:02:18 AM] Alcoremortis: Unless the protagonist already knows all this stuff, then it's okay
[6/8/13 12:02:23 AM] Alcoremortis: But really, was that intro necessary?
[6/8/13 12:02:24 AM] Alcoremortis: Nope
[6/8/13 12:02:34 AM] Rather Dashing: None of that intro was necessary
[6/8/13 12:02:42 AM] Rather Dashing: though it contained the best 3D of the entire movie in the 3D version
[6/8/13 12:02:43 AM] Rather Dashing: which I saw
[6/8/13 12:02:45 AM] Rather Dashing: in a theater
[6/8/13 12:03:12 AM] Alcoremortis: You paid to see this in 3d?
[6/8/13 12:03:44 AM] Alcoremortis: The fuck?
[6/8/13 12:03:59 AM] Alcoremortis: Man fear is worse than I thought
[6/8/13 12:08:36 AM] Alcoremortis: NEVER GIVE YOUR KID AN ARTICLE OF YOUR CLOTHING
[6/8/13 12:08:40 AM] Alcoremortis: It's a death sentence
[6/8/13 12:08:47 AM] Alcoremortis: You WILL die if you do this
[6/8/13 12:10:17 AM] Rather Dashing: This movie is not well-remembered for it's dramatic, well-written, roller coaster script
[6/8/13 12:11:25 AM] Alcoremortis: Yeah.
[6/8/13 12:11:30 AM] Alcoremortis: Totally called that explosion
[6/8/13 12:12:10 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, now he has to wear this leather jacket all the time because it's the thing his dad gave him
[6/8/13 12:12:24 AM] Alcoremortis: And his dad didn't fear
[6/8/13 12:12:31 AM] Alcoremortis: and green lanterns aren't supposed to fear
[6/8/13 12:12:34 AM] Alcoremortis: GEDDIT?
[6/8/13 12:14:05 AM] Alcoremortis: Apparently yellow is bad?
[6/8/13 12:14:29 AM] Alcoremortis: This man is incredibly unimaginative with a ring that can literally do anything he can think of
[6/8/13 12:15:09 AM] Alcoremortis: And this man is incredibly unimaginative with a woman that he can literally do anything he can think of with
[6/8/13 12:15:49 AM] Alcoremortis: Well, he clearly has no fear if he's driving like THAT
[6/8/13 12:15:53 AM] Rather Dashing: Yellow is bad, yeah. Yellow is fear.
[6/8/13 12:16:02 AM] Rather Dashing: Green is courage, yellow is fear.
[6/8/13 12:16:09 AM] Alcoremortis: BECAUSE OF YELLOW-BELLIES GEDDIT?
[6/8/13 12:16:31 AM] Rather Dashing: Well, because yellow was the silver age weakness of the Green Lantern
[6/8/13 12:16:35 AM] Rather Dashing: and they realized that was lame
[6/8/13 12:17:05 AM] Rather Dashing: so they tried to explain it as the color of fear, and then that it was a weakness that they made themselves by THINKING it was a weakness because they were told it was
[6/8/13 12:17:06 AM] Rather Dashing: or something
[6/8/13 12:17:17 AM] Rather Dashing: it's way overcomplicated
[6/8/13 12:18:30 AM] Alcoremortis: It seems to be
[6/8/13 12:18:51 AM] Alcoremortis: I'll just stick with Marvel and radiation can do anything
[6/8/13 12:21:26 AM] Alcoremortis: I think the story would have worked better if we didn't have the beginning
[6/8/13 12:21:38 AM] Alcoremortis: Just start off with this guy test-flying planes
[6/8/13 12:21:54 AM] Alcoremortis: And then when he has these flashbacks, they're interesting instead of being the thing we saw five minutes ago
[6/8/13 12:22:45 AM] Alcoremortis: I'm just feeling here "I'm not stupid" I remember this shit.
[6/8/13 12:25:54 AM] Alcoremortis: This movie already just suffers for not understanding how to keep the audience interest
[6/8/13 12:29:23 AM] Rather Dashing: http://i.imgur.com/qgaGAPE.png
[6/8/13 12:30:10 AM] Rather Dashing: "Just start off with this guy test-flying planes"
That is how most versions do it.
[6/8/13 12:30:28 AM] Alcoremortis: That's how I'd do it.
[6/8/13 12:30:34 AM] Alcoremortis: Reveal stuff about the character over time.
[6/8/13 12:30:54 AM] Alcoremortis: Like have an image of this guy giving a kid a jacket and Hal freezes up
[6/8/13 12:31:06 AM] Alcoremortis: We'd be all like, "why was that scary?"
[6/8/13 12:31:12 AM] Alcoremortis: Is he afraid of jackets?
[6/8/13 12:31:30 AM] Alcoremortis: And then later have the same guy and the same kid but the guy's flying a plane
[6/8/13 12:31:46 AM] Alcoremortis: Then we're like "oh, there's a plane involved. So jackets and plane flying are linked somehow
[6/8/13 12:32:26 AM] Alcoremortis: And then at "big loss" part of the arc, right when things matter most, he has the flashback explosion
[6/8/13 12:32:51 AM] Alcoremortis: And we're like "oohhhhhh... so he did have fear after all"
[6/8/13 12:33:08 AM] Alcoremortis: And all the while before this, sprinkle in little one liners about his dad.
[6/8/13 12:33:22 AM] Alcoremortis: Like "yeah he was super brave and doesn't afraid of anything"
[6/8/13 12:33:26 AM] Rather Dashing: If you're going to explain how the movie could be better, even from the perspective of someone who has never read a single Green Lantern story in their entire lives, you'll be talking all day.
[6/8/13 12:33:45 AM] Alcoremortis: I'm just going at it from basic storytelling
[6/8/13 12:33:52 AM] Alcoremortis: This is writing shit 101 stuff
[6/8/13 12:34:13 AM] Alcoremortis: Also, it makes watching the movie bearable if I pick it apart and think how it could be done better
[6/8/13 12:35:34 AM] Alcoremortis: I don't understand how the ring chooses people
[6/8/13 12:35:46 AM] Rather Dashing: The ring has a little computer in it
[6/8/13 12:36:03 AM] Rather Dashing: It's really advanced technology that seems like magic
[6/8/13 12:36:15 AM] Alcoremortis: Ooh a spaceship... LETS RUN TOWARDS IT
[6/8/13 12:36:22 AM] Alcoremortis: Dude certainly doesn't have fear
[6/8/13 12:36:25 AM] Alcoremortis: At all
[6/8/13 12:36:37 AM] Rather Dashing: The ring itself is smart and capable of a limited amount of independent thought
[6/8/13 12:36:51 AM] Alcoremortis: But seriously, only choosing people who don't fear is stupid
[6/8/13 12:37:04 AM] Alcoremortis: because fearless people do stupid things
[6/8/13 12:37:23 AM] Alcoremortis: because they don't have that little voice telling them that the stupid thing might murderate them
[6/8/13 12:37:42 AM] Alcoremortis: Now brave people is a totally different thing
[6/8/13 12:38:01 AM] Rather Dashing: Depending on the story it shifts between not having fear and being able to conquer fear in order to do something that is right even though they know it is going to be dangerous.
[6/8/13 12:38:15 AM] Alcoremortis: This seems to be saying NO FEAR EVER
[6/8/13 12:38:26 AM] Alcoremortis: Conquering fear is good
[6/8/13 12:38:56 AM] Alcoremortis: because you know "oh hey, this is dangerous, but I'll think of a way to do it that won't kill me or will at least bring about more good in the universe
[6/8/13 12:39:15 AM] Rather Dashing: The green ring feeds off the wearer's Willpower
[6/8/13 12:39:39 AM] Alcoremortis: Hal is remarkably well balanced for someone who just got kidnapped by some green light
[6/8/13 12:39:49 AM] Alcoremortis: by an alien who looks like he's missing skin
[6/8/13 12:40:23 AM] Alcoremortis: "YOU GOTTA BREATHE ALIEN DUDE"
"*choke* your air... toxic... blehhhh"
[6/8/13 12:40:42 AM] Alcoremortis: That's how I would have done it
[6/8/13 12:41:27 AM] Rather Dashing: Honestly I wish he stayed more balanced. I don't really like the "WOAH THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. HEY THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. TALK TO ME GUY ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. WOAH I AM FREAKED OUT BECAUSE THINGS ARE DIFFERENT". It's a big annoying stumbling block in narratives that you just have to wade through, like just about any Holywood subplot that involves a misunderstanding of some sort that causes a negative emotional reaction resulting in one person leaving dramatically
[6/8/13 12:42:01 AM] Alcoremortis: The plane-building guy has a much more believable reaction to the fact that there's a FUCKING SPACESHIP RIGHT THERE.
[6/8/13 12:42:25 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, Hal's like, "oh look a spaceship, must be tuesday"
[6/8/13 12:42:34 AM] Rather Dashing: Well, it's more like
[6/8/13 12:42:42 AM] Rather Dashing: "Woah, a crash! Someone might be hurt!"
[6/8/13 12:43:03 AM] Rather Dashing: He processes the "space" and "alien" parts secondary to "need to help someone"
[6/8/13 12:43:05 AM] Rather Dashing: which honestly
[6/8/13 12:43:13 AM] Rather Dashing: makes him a good candidate for "space police"
[6/8/13 12:44:06 AM] Alcoremortis: He doesn't even comment on the fact that the guy seems to have no skin. I dunno. Sure helping someone is all well and good, but it seemed unnatural that he wasn't even a little bit surprised by the spaceship alien
[6/8/13 12:44:13 AM] Alcoremortis: Not even a "whooaah! You
[6/8/13 12:44:20 AM] Alcoremortis: you're not from around here, are you?"
[6/8/13 12:44:46 AM] Alcoremortis: I feel he should have commented. And also not assumed that alien breathes air
[6/8/13 12:45:09 AM] Alcoremortis: Assuming everyone shares human traits is a bad candidate for space police
[6/8/13 12:45:24 AM] Rather Dashing: It's an emergency. He's doing what he knows in an emergency. I dunno, people react according to instinct in emergency situations
[6/8/13 12:45:55 AM] Rather Dashing: when time is of the essence and shit's going down people don't process the same as they would if they were watching it casually as a video
[6/8/13 12:45:56 AM] Rather Dashing: i dunno
[6/8/13 12:46:02 AM] Rather Dashing: this bit doesn't bother me
[6/8/13 12:46:11 AM] Alcoremortis: That would have made sense if he were a firefighter or someone who deals with helping people all the time.
[6/8/13 12:46:15 AM] Alcoremortis: But he's a test pilot
[6/8/13 12:46:28 AM] Rather Dashing: yeah, so he sort of has to know about crashes.
[6/8/13 12:46:36 AM] Alcoremortis: You know...
[6/8/13 12:46:42 AM] Alcoremortis: This would have been a good place for a flashback
[6/8/13 12:46:52 AM] Alcoremortis: Like "oh shit just like my dad"
[6/8/13 12:46:58 AM] Rather Dashing: Yeah.
[6/8/13 12:47:08 AM] Alcoremortis: And then it would make sense that he was thinking CRASH CRASH CRASH
[6/8/13 12:47:10 AM] Alcoremortis: and not alien
[6/8/13 12:47:20 AM] Rather Dashing: I dunno, it seems to me like the reaction is fine
[6/8/13 12:47:35 AM] Rather Dashing: The guy is supposed to be a hero who has to take in a lot of alien stuff very quickly
[6/8/13 12:48:02 AM] Rather Dashing: and he's supposed to be really special in the bravery and heling peopleness part of it
[6/8/13 12:48:13 AM] Rather Dashing: so i dunno, it seems like he reacts fine
[6/8/13 12:49:16 AM] Alcoremortis: Still think you need a flashback or to emphasize it earlier. Because he was totally not giving me the vibe that he was the sort of person who would ignore a spaceship for a crash
[6/8/13 12:50:11 AM] Alcoremortis: Like instead of that intro rubbish, maybe have something that defines his character as the sort of person that wants to rush out and help people
[6/8/13 12:50:21 AM] Alcoremortis: so it's not so weird
[6/8/13 12:51:12 AM] Rather Dashing: Maybe
[6/8/13 12:51:26 AM] Rather Dashing: I know the sort of person that a Green Lantern is supposed to be beforehand
[6/8/13 12:51:29 AM] Rather Dashing: so maybe that helps?
[6/8/13 12:51:43 AM] Alcoremortis: Probably. But I don't. And the movie should be self-contained.
[6/8/13 12:51:55 AM] Alcoremortis: I should be able to get everything I need to know about the character from the movie
[6/8/13 12:52:15 AM] Alcoremortis: So far, I know Hal is an asshole who still loves his nephew.
[6/8/13 12:52:32 AM] Rather Dashing: No, it definitely should be, but shouldn't rushing to help someone in a crash and not commenting about it being at all odd already show that he's the sort of person who would rush into a crash without worrying about whether or not the guy is an alien with a spaceship?
[6/8/13 12:53:27 AM] Alcoremortis: I think that it feels unnatural and out of character. Since it's a plot point, it shouldn't be something that also sets up a basic character trait
[6/8/13 12:53:53 AM] Alcoremortis: We should have something show us that he's this kind of guy and then it makes sense that he gets chosen
[6/8/13 12:54:02 AM] Alcoremortis: That he helps the alien instead of freaking out
[6/8/13 12:54:43 AM] Alcoremortis: Instead of me going "why's he doing that? Is he an idiot?" I'd be nodding along going "Oh yeah... that makes sense because he would do this for anyone
[6/8/13 12:55:14 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, the bit with the plane at the beginning almost made me think that he might have a panic attack seeing another crashed plane thing
[6/8/13 12:57:52 AM] Alcoremortis: Like, we know he's irresponsible and a hothead that will do stupid things to win from the plane flying bit. We know he's loving because he gave his nephew that plane, but forgetful because he just grabbed it at the last minute. We know he takes risks often because of the throwaway motorcycle line and the fact that he's the most terrible driver ever.
But we don't know that his first reaction is to help someone in need. I mean he used his flying partner AS BAIT in the training exercise... this would seem to say the opposite, where he sacrifices anyone and everyone to win
[6/8/13 12:58:47 AM] Alcoremortis: Therefore jarring when he doesn't even hesitate. And a plotpoint shouldn't be jarring in that way. Not where you start immediately thinking that somethings OOC
[6/8/13 1:04:03 AM] Rather Dashing: I feel like the problem is more the flight sequence having him use the partner as bait, which was awful and set the character wrong, rather than the alien crash sequence itself
[6/8/13 1:04:42 AM] Alcoremortis: My problem with the alien crash is that it wasn't set up in a way that would make me, a nonfan, believe any of it
[6/8/13 1:05:09 AM] Rather Dashing: That whole flight sequence was the WORST version of a very common thread among Hal Jordan origins
[6/8/13 1:06:41 AM] Alcoremortis: What should have happened is she should have been in trouble, but he has the opportunity to take out the drones... but then breaks from the plan to draw them off and then does the stupid stunt to still save the day but also lose it
[6/8/13 1:07:14 AM] Alcoremortis: Or something to show that he's reckless and also wants to instinctively protect people
[6/8/13 1:07:20 AM] Alcoremortis: Even though she's not actually in danger
[6/8/13 1:08:28 AM] Alcoremortis: He uses ultimate power to deal with three thugs
[6/8/13 1:08:31 AM] Alcoremortis: I have no words
[6/8/13 1:09:30 AM] Alcoremortis: three thugs who were pissed that he got them fired. Which is an understandable reason to be pissed
[6/8/13 1:10:31 AM] Rather Dashing: He tends to use his power badly.
[6/8/13 1:10:35 AM] Rather Dashing: He uses it worse later.
[6/8/13 1:10:45 AM] Rather Dashing: In that he uses it to run home and then try to impress girls
[6/8/13 1:10:58 AM] Rather Dashing: while everyone else is in trouble
[6/8/13 1:11:14 AM] Rather Dashing: and he just assumes it's not his problem because space stuff is freaky
[6/8/13 1:11:28 AM] Alcoremortis: Strangely, I think that makes more sense given what I've been shown of his character
[6/8/13 1:11:39 AM] Alcoremortis: Why does he get a mask?
[6/8/13 1:11:44 AM] Alcoremortis: None of the other dudes had masks
[6/8/13 1:11:53 AM] Alcoremortis: they just had their face
[6/8/13 1:12:28 AM] Rather Dashing: Whether or not you get a mask is either a choice or a sort of instinctive thing
[6/8/13 1:13:29 AM] Rather Dashing: The uniform isn't really codified all that well because not everybody is a bipedal humanoid
[6/8/13 1:13:38 AM] Alcoremortis: Ah.
[6/8/13 1:13:46 AM] Alcoremortis: I like the green lantern planet
[6/8/13 1:13:56 AM] Rather Dashing: Oa?
[6/8/13 1:14:00 AM] Alcoremortis: The design. Yes
[6/8/13 1:14:14 AM] Rather Dashing: Ah
[6/8/13 1:14:26 AM] Alcoremortis: I like floating buildings
[6/8/13 1:14:55 AM] Alcoremortis: You know what? Hal here reminds me of Hal in Megamind
[6/8/13 1:15:49 AM] Alcoremortis: And I'm starting to wonder if that part of Megamind was just totally making fun of Green Lantern (not the movie, just the character)
[6/8/13 1:16:19 AM] Alcoremortis: But yeah, totally mad with glee over finding out that he has superpowers, using them to try and pick up chicks, shirking responsibility
[6/8/13 1:16:49 AM] Alcoremortis: Except Hal in Megamind basically had Superman powers and later decided to just go full out evil because he couldn't get the girl he wanted
[6/8/13 1:17:25 AM] Alcoremortis: And Hal there also took a whole lot longer to get the powers right
[6/8/13 1:18:59 AM] Alcoremortis: I also like the weird aliens that I'll never see again
[6/8/13 1:20:10 AM] Rather Dashing: Honestly that's a problem with most Green Lantern stories
[6/8/13 1:20:32 AM] Rather Dashing: there are VERY few good Green Lantern stories that have great aliens
[6/8/13 1:20:41 AM] Rather Dashing: as anything other than background fodder
[6/8/13 1:20:54 AM] Rather Dashing: Green Lantern is mainly a book you read for cool crowd shots behind a boring story
[6/8/13 1:22:20 AM] Alcoremortis: I like the training ogre guy
[6/8/13 1:22:28 AM] Alcoremortis: Using gravity was a pretty neat trick
[6/8/13 1:23:39 AM] Alcoremortis: How's he so good at swordfighting
[6/8/13 1:24:09 AM] Rather Dashing: Kilowagg is actually a much better character than we get to see here.
[6/8/13 1:26:02 AM] Alcoremortis: He's my favorite character so far
[6/8/13 1:26:11 AM] Alcoremortis: because he actually used the ring to do something interesting
[6/8/13 1:27:28 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, if you can make anything you want with it, why restrict yourself to physical objects?
[6/8/13 1:27:39 AM] Alcoremortis: Why restrict to swords and chainsaws and shit
[6/8/13 1:27:48 AM] Alcoremortis: USE A FUCKING STAR
[6/8/13 1:27:55 AM] Alcoremortis: And the gravity from it
[6/8/13 1:28:41 AM] Alcoremortis: That CEOs son looks older than him
[6/8/13 1:29:03 AM] Rather Dashing: Hal has always been uncreative with his constructs
[6/8/13 1:30:06 AM] Alcoremortis: If Bruce Wayne got that ring, the Earth would be safe forever
[6/8/13 1:32:12 AM] Rather Dashing: There was an Elseworlds where he did
[6/8/13 1:32:49 AM] Rather Dashing: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne_(Earth-32)
[6/8/13 1:37:00 AM] Alcoremortis: That's kinda brill
[6/8/13 1:38:49 AM] Alcoremortis: why can whastisface suddenly start reading minds?
[6/8/13 1:39:59 AM] Rather Dashing: Who?
[6/8/13 1:40:14 AM] Rather Dashing: I think that was related to Parallax
[6/8/13 1:40:18 AM] Rather Dashing: the big bad guy
[6/8/13 1:40:21 AM] Rather Dashing: from the info dump
[6/8/13 1:41:15 AM] Alcoremortis: Oh
[6/8/13 1:41:25 AM] Alcoremortis: why does no one recognize Hal
[6/8/13 1:41:35 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, these are people who have known him his whole life
[6/8/13 1:41:41 AM] Alcoremortis: and he's just wearing a tiny mask
[6/8/13 1:42:22 AM] Rather Dashing: Yeah
[6/8/13 1:42:39 AM] Rather Dashing: but comic book logic has always treated that tiny mask as enough to fool people
[6/8/13 1:42:51 AM] Alcoremortis: Maybe it has a psychic thing
[6/8/13 1:43:05 AM] Alcoremortis: Oh, and the smart buddy guy figured it out
[6/8/13 1:43:18 AM] Alcoremortis: and criticized his method
[6/8/13 1:43:22 AM] Alcoremortis: I like that dude
[6/8/13 1:43:33 AM] Alcoremortis: He asks the questions I ask
[6/8/13 1:45:04 AM] Alcoremortis: And has the most realistic reactions to things
[6/8/13 1:45:19 AM] Alcoremortis: Also, Hal is TOTALLY like Hal in Megamind
[6/8/13 1:45:28 AM] Alcoremortis: Like identical
[6/8/13 1:45:34 AM] Alcoremortis: But not ironic.
[6/8/13 1:45:38 AM] Alcoremortis: lik
Just seen The Rock again for the first time in years (though missed the first ten minutes). Hell, I wasn't even planning to watch it, was just flipping through channels and I saw it had just recently started so stuck it on just for something to be on.
And you know what, it's fun film. Ok, it's also stupid Michael Bay film but it's also a fun Michael Bay film, if only for Sean Connery. Hell, the whole cast is rather good actually, even Nick Cage (though it's not my favourite performance of his, that still is Snake Eyes). It's just so watchable. And at the end of the day, there's not much more you need from a film.
Just seen The Rock again for the first time in years (though missed the first ten minutes). Hell, I wasn't even planning to watch it, was just flipping through channels and I saw it had just recently started so stuck it on just for something to be on.
And you know what, it's fun film. Ok, it's also stupid Michael Bay film but it's also a fun Michael Bay film, if only for Sean Connery. Hell, the whole cast is rather good actually, even Nick Cage (though it's not my favourite performance of his, that still is Snake Eyes). It's just so watchable. And at the end of the day, there's not much more you need from a film.
For me, it's beyond watchable, it's a damn good movie, mainly because of Sean Connery and Ed Harris. Those two turn in amazing performances. This is one of the few Bay films where I actually pay attention to the story. Unlike the Transformers movies where I turn off my give-a-damn-o-meter and just enjoy the giant freaking robots...which, seriously, is what people should have been doing. I hate to say it, but Transformers fans are treating those movies like they raped their childhood heroes, but let's be serious here. The original Transformers cartoons were beyond silly. They're not great story-telling. It was an action series with colorful, neat images designed to make kids want to go out and buy more toys. So we got three action movies with colorful, neat images designed to make kids want to go out and buy more toys. They just added more explosions, swearing, and half-naked women sprawled over cars. Plain and simple, these movies should NOT be taken as seriously as people want to take them. Now, if the movies were based on BEAST WARS, then there damn well had better be a good, coherent story.
Thanks Alcoremortis, that was every bit as interesting as I thought it'd be.
The problem with the Transformers movies isn't that they had explosions, swearing and half-naked women. It's that the focus of the movies wasn't on the giant kick-ass robots, but the stupid irritating humans. Man, screw humanity, we just wanted to see giant robots beating each other up in really cool action sequences. But no, we have to go through long, boring stretches about some dick called Witwicky before we can even get to those. *sigh*
I honestly don't find robots beating each other up to necessarily be more interesting than humans. But it depends on the type of humans.
I mean, you have the Iron Man movies where the combat sequences are big and spectacular, but you can still have extended bits with Tony Stark and no suit that aren't just interesting, but practically the best parts of the movie.
It would not. The Transformers are intelligent beings. You don't need fucking humans- the Transformers are the characters. Watch Transformers: The Movie- the animated one. It had Orson Welles, for crying out loud.
It would not. The Transformers are intelligent beings. You don't need fucking humans- the Transformers are the characters. Watch Transformers: The Movie- the animated one. It had Orson Welles, for crying out loud.
It would not. The Transformers are intelligent beings. You don't need fucking humans- the Transformers are the characters. Watch Transformers: The Movie- the animated one. It had Orson Welles, for crying out loud.
If it had Orson Welles then that's completely different. He could save anything just by being present.
I think the solution would have been to have someone who wasn't Micheal Bay deal with anything involving humans. And have a different writer.
A movie with just robots would get really old after about twenty minutes or so.
The first Transformers is the least hated out of the trilogy. The same writers(Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman who worked on Star Trek 2009 & Into Darkness) were brought in to write Revenge of the Fallen, but around that time, the writer's strike hit. Orci and Kurtzman pretty much handed Bay a first draft on their way out the door to the picket line. Rather than delay the film so they could get a proper script, Paramount pushed the movie. You know. Cause summer blockbuster money. The final film was screwed as a result. Movie 3 was done by different writers because Orci and Kurtzman wanted to do something else. Transformers 4...is gonna be more of the same. I don't know who is writing it, but I'm not hopeful. Anything I've wanted to see in these movies should have happened with the last one and didn't happen. No Unicron, no Dinobots. Meh.
It would not. The Transformers are intelligent beings. You don't need fucking humans- the Transformers are the characters. Watch Transformers: The Movie- the animated one. It had Orson Welles, for crying out loud.
Had Orson Welles for a bit...he died during the recording, so someone else(I think Nimoy) did a couple of Unicron's lines. I don't know if it's good or bad for Welles' legacy that his final role was a planet-sized world devourer in an animated film that he didn't really care for: "You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. Some terrible robot toys from Japan that changed from one thing to another. The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen."
Great film. Whilst it doesn't feature as much of the social commentary from the comic as I would've liked, it is none the less a VAST improvement over the shitty Stallone movie. Having said that, it's a shame that it didn't have a higher budget like the '95 version because Mega City One looked a lot truer to the comic in that than with this release.
I loved the graphic use of violence in 'Dredd'; it takes me back to a less sanitised period of film-making. The ballsy gore reminds me of genre classics such as 'Robocop'. Whilst undeniably gimmicky in nature, the slow-motion sequences (caused by the citizens use of an illegal drug which alters the users perception of time down to a snails pace) are gorgeous and manage to make a bullet flying through someone's skull look strangely beautiful, as opposed to being macabre.
It's a crying shame that 'Dredd' failed to perform well at the cinema (which was hardly helped by the distributors insistence on not having cinemas show 2D screenings of the film), we'll most likely never get to see the 2nd and 3rd parts of the planned trilogy that held great promise judging (no pun intended) by this adaptation.
1986 Transformers movie is best movie!! And only movie worth talking about!
All that disagree are kill...:mad:
Calm yourself. To be perfectly honest...as much as I LOVE that movie...there're so many random plot threads for no freaking reason that it's ridiculous.
Calm yourself. To be perfectly honest...as much as I LOVE that movie...there're so many random plot threads for no freaking reason that it's ridiculous.
This movie was kinda hilarious in how completely bad it was, which is just enough to be funny. It's like a bad episode of Star Trek except that Star Trek had the excuse of being produced in the sixties.
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Let me make one thing clear, This is not as good as the first one. But then again i was not really expecting it or Hangover Part 2 to be as good as the first one so i'm not going to hold it against the film. I have to say but i disagree with the critics. I went too it and i had a good time and laughed a lot. It is darker than Hangover 1 & 2. But lets face it, it feels to me everyone can't make up their minds. When Hangover 2 came out it was all ''Its too much like the first one!!!!!!, what a rip off!'' Now when they listen to them and try to make it different, the people once again start crying ''Its too different!!!!'' I did like the plot but i missed the mystery of the first two movies. The ending credits scene was freaking funny and i did like a good amount of jokes. I didn't like the way Alan acted in this one. He was too much of an asshole to almost everyone except Doug & Phil. I also like the references to the last two movies and how they go back to Las Vegas. Again i don't think its as good as the first one but it is better than the second one in my opinion.
My initial score still stands as well. Doubt I'll get to see it a third time before it goes out of theaters, so my next viewing will likely be on Blu-Ray(already pre-ordered through Amazon, got the set with the phaser replica).
Score on first watching was 9.975 (USS Voyager's maximum sustainable cruising speed)
Score on second watching is 9.2.
There's definitely about 15 or 20 minutes in there where I felt the movie was running long and so was checking my watch. But then the scene with Kirk and Spock in Engineering happened and from that point on I didn't care about the length anymore.
EDIT: I may see it again in the regular theatre, but most certainly once it comes out in the dollar theatre I will go see it a few more times. It was the same with Star Trek (2009).
Oh, and after watching Into Darkness a second time, I would say that Star Trek (2009) is slightly better than Into Darkness at this point, simply because there is never a point in the first movie where I feel that it's running long.
There are a number of people I've talked to (most of whom are middle aged or older) who are going to see Star Trek now who never cared a bit about the Prime universe's movies or shows.
Fuck Rotten Tomatoes.
What? Abrams movies are similar in the way their narratives are constructed to the degree that hurts the film.
I know, right?! Too bad the Justice League movie won't be nearly as good.
It still holds up pretty good. 6? Yeah I'll give it a 6. It could have been a lot worse. A LOT worse.
I don't even know how to rate this. It fails everything. There. I'd write out my thoughts, but it would probably be more cohesive to just copy-paste the Skype chat I had with Dashing. Which I won't do, because it was looooooong.
But a taste of a line that I thought should have been included:
"YOU GOTTA BREATHE ALIEN DUDE"
"*choke* your air... toxic... blehhhh"
Also, Hal acts almost exactly like Hal in Megamind. Except he doesn't blow up the city because this Hal actually gets the girl. This isn't exactly a heartening similarity for the hero of a comic book movie to have.
great movie.
This movie was like amazing, bro. There were these crazy alienz that Will Smith had to punch 'cause he's like da man, ya know? He even gave a quip after punching da alienz. That shit was well funny. There was a lot of explosions and stuff and I liked the way that the big alienz ship was destroyed by a computer virus. That was like Sci-Fi shit, ya know what I mean?
I'm glad the dog survived that shit 'cause dogs is cool, bro. Overall, I'd give this movie like a 8 out of ten or something.
I warned you... this shit is loooooong.
[6/8/13 12:01:09 AM] Alcoremortis: Already, I have a major beef with the storytelling of this movie
[6/8/13 12:01:21 AM] Alcoremortis: I hate stories where they basically tell you who the bad guy is at the beginning
[6/8/13 12:01:54 AM] Alcoremortis: The audience should learn who the bad guy is along with the protagonist
[6/8/13 12:02:00 AM] Rather Dashing: Also the first 2 minutes is a massive info dump of things they then re-iterate better(but not much better) later on
[6/8/13 12:02:18 AM] Alcoremortis: Unless the protagonist already knows all this stuff, then it's okay
[6/8/13 12:02:23 AM] Alcoremortis: But really, was that intro necessary?
[6/8/13 12:02:24 AM] Alcoremortis: Nope
[6/8/13 12:02:34 AM] Rather Dashing: None of that intro was necessary
[6/8/13 12:02:42 AM] Rather Dashing: though it contained the best 3D of the entire movie in the 3D version
[6/8/13 12:02:43 AM] Rather Dashing: which I saw
[6/8/13 12:02:45 AM] Rather Dashing: in a theater
[6/8/13 12:03:12 AM] Alcoremortis: You paid to see this in 3d?
[6/8/13 12:03:44 AM] Alcoremortis: The fuck?
[6/8/13 12:03:59 AM] Alcoremortis: Man fear is worse than I thought
[6/8/13 12:08:36 AM] Alcoremortis: NEVER GIVE YOUR KID AN ARTICLE OF YOUR CLOTHING
[6/8/13 12:08:40 AM] Alcoremortis: It's a death sentence
[6/8/13 12:08:47 AM] Alcoremortis: You WILL die if you do this
[6/8/13 12:10:17 AM] Rather Dashing: This movie is not well-remembered for it's dramatic, well-written, roller coaster script
[6/8/13 12:11:25 AM] Alcoremortis: Yeah.
[6/8/13 12:11:30 AM] Alcoremortis: Totally called that explosion
[6/8/13 12:12:10 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, now he has to wear this leather jacket all the time because it's the thing his dad gave him
[6/8/13 12:12:24 AM] Alcoremortis: And his dad didn't fear
[6/8/13 12:12:31 AM] Alcoremortis: and green lanterns aren't supposed to fear
[6/8/13 12:12:34 AM] Alcoremortis: GEDDIT?
[6/8/13 12:14:05 AM] Alcoremortis: Apparently yellow is bad?
[6/8/13 12:14:29 AM] Alcoremortis: This man is incredibly unimaginative with a ring that can literally do anything he can think of
[6/8/13 12:15:09 AM] Alcoremortis: And this man is incredibly unimaginative with a woman that he can literally do anything he can think of with
[6/8/13 12:15:49 AM] Alcoremortis: Well, he clearly has no fear if he's driving like THAT
[6/8/13 12:15:53 AM] Rather Dashing: Yellow is bad, yeah. Yellow is fear.
[6/8/13 12:16:02 AM] Rather Dashing: Green is courage, yellow is fear.
[6/8/13 12:16:09 AM] Alcoremortis: BECAUSE OF YELLOW-BELLIES GEDDIT?
[6/8/13 12:16:31 AM] Rather Dashing: Well, because yellow was the silver age weakness of the Green Lantern
[6/8/13 12:16:35 AM] Rather Dashing: and they realized that was lame
[6/8/13 12:17:05 AM] Rather Dashing: so they tried to explain it as the color of fear, and then that it was a weakness that they made themselves by THINKING it was a weakness because they were told it was
[6/8/13 12:17:06 AM] Rather Dashing: or something
[6/8/13 12:17:17 AM] Rather Dashing: it's way overcomplicated
[6/8/13 12:18:30 AM] Alcoremortis: It seems to be
[6/8/13 12:18:51 AM] Alcoremortis: I'll just stick with Marvel and radiation can do anything
[6/8/13 12:21:26 AM] Alcoremortis: I think the story would have worked better if we didn't have the beginning
[6/8/13 12:21:38 AM] Alcoremortis: Just start off with this guy test-flying planes
[6/8/13 12:21:54 AM] Alcoremortis: And then when he has these flashbacks, they're interesting instead of being the thing we saw five minutes ago
[6/8/13 12:22:45 AM] Alcoremortis: I'm just feeling here "I'm not stupid" I remember this shit.
[6/8/13 12:25:54 AM] Alcoremortis: This movie already just suffers for not understanding how to keep the audience interest
[6/8/13 12:29:23 AM] Rather Dashing: http://i.imgur.com/qgaGAPE.png
[6/8/13 12:30:10 AM] Rather Dashing: "Just start off with this guy test-flying planes"
That is how most versions do it.
[6/8/13 12:30:28 AM] Alcoremortis: That's how I'd do it.
[6/8/13 12:30:34 AM] Alcoremortis: Reveal stuff about the character over time.
[6/8/13 12:30:54 AM] Alcoremortis: Like have an image of this guy giving a kid a jacket and Hal freezes up
[6/8/13 12:31:06 AM] Alcoremortis: We'd be all like, "why was that scary?"
[6/8/13 12:31:12 AM] Alcoremortis: Is he afraid of jackets?
[6/8/13 12:31:30 AM] Alcoremortis: And then later have the same guy and the same kid but the guy's flying a plane
[6/8/13 12:31:46 AM] Alcoremortis: Then we're like "oh, there's a plane involved. So jackets and plane flying are linked somehow
[6/8/13 12:32:26 AM] Alcoremortis: And then at "big loss" part of the arc, right when things matter most, he has the flashback explosion
[6/8/13 12:32:51 AM] Alcoremortis: And we're like "oohhhhhh... so he did have fear after all"
[6/8/13 12:33:08 AM] Alcoremortis: And all the while before this, sprinkle in little one liners about his dad.
[6/8/13 12:33:22 AM] Alcoremortis: Like "yeah he was super brave and doesn't afraid of anything"
[6/8/13 12:33:26 AM] Rather Dashing: If you're going to explain how the movie could be better, even from the perspective of someone who has never read a single Green Lantern story in their entire lives, you'll be talking all day.
[6/8/13 12:33:45 AM] Alcoremortis: I'm just going at it from basic storytelling
[6/8/13 12:33:52 AM] Alcoremortis: This is writing shit 101 stuff
[6/8/13 12:34:13 AM] Alcoremortis: Also, it makes watching the movie bearable if I pick it apart and think how it could be done better
[6/8/13 12:35:34 AM] Alcoremortis: I don't understand how the ring chooses people
[6/8/13 12:35:46 AM] Rather Dashing: The ring has a little computer in it
[6/8/13 12:36:03 AM] Rather Dashing: It's really advanced technology that seems like magic
[6/8/13 12:36:15 AM] Alcoremortis: Ooh a spaceship... LETS RUN TOWARDS IT
[6/8/13 12:36:22 AM] Alcoremortis: Dude certainly doesn't have fear
[6/8/13 12:36:25 AM] Alcoremortis: At all
[6/8/13 12:36:37 AM] Rather Dashing: The ring itself is smart and capable of a limited amount of independent thought
[6/8/13 12:36:51 AM] Alcoremortis: But seriously, only choosing people who don't fear is stupid
[6/8/13 12:37:04 AM] Alcoremortis: because fearless people do stupid things
[6/8/13 12:37:23 AM] Alcoremortis: because they don't have that little voice telling them that the stupid thing might murderate them
[6/8/13 12:37:42 AM] Alcoremortis: Now brave people is a totally different thing
[6/8/13 12:38:01 AM] Rather Dashing: Depending on the story it shifts between not having fear and being able to conquer fear in order to do something that is right even though they know it is going to be dangerous.
[6/8/13 12:38:15 AM] Alcoremortis: This seems to be saying NO FEAR EVER
[6/8/13 12:38:26 AM] Alcoremortis: Conquering fear is good
[6/8/13 12:38:56 AM] Alcoremortis: because you know "oh hey, this is dangerous, but I'll think of a way to do it that won't kill me or will at least bring about more good in the universe
[6/8/13 12:39:15 AM] Rather Dashing: The green ring feeds off the wearer's Willpower
[6/8/13 12:39:39 AM] Alcoremortis: Hal is remarkably well balanced for someone who just got kidnapped by some green light
[6/8/13 12:39:49 AM] Alcoremortis: by an alien who looks like he's missing skin
[6/8/13 12:40:23 AM] Alcoremortis: "YOU GOTTA BREATHE ALIEN DUDE"
"*choke* your air... toxic... blehhhh"
[6/8/13 12:40:42 AM] Alcoremortis: That's how I would have done it
[6/8/13 12:41:27 AM] Rather Dashing: Honestly I wish he stayed more balanced. I don't really like the "WOAH THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. HEY THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. TALK TO ME GUY ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. WOAH I AM FREAKED OUT BECAUSE THINGS ARE DIFFERENT". It's a big annoying stumbling block in narratives that you just have to wade through, like just about any Holywood subplot that involves a misunderstanding of some sort that causes a negative emotional reaction resulting in one person leaving dramatically
[6/8/13 12:42:01 AM] Alcoremortis: The plane-building guy has a much more believable reaction to the fact that there's a FUCKING SPACESHIP RIGHT THERE.
[6/8/13 12:42:25 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, Hal's like, "oh look a spaceship, must be tuesday"
[6/8/13 12:42:34 AM] Rather Dashing: Well, it's more like
[6/8/13 12:42:42 AM] Rather Dashing: "Woah, a crash! Someone might be hurt!"
[6/8/13 12:43:03 AM] Rather Dashing: He processes the "space" and "alien" parts secondary to "need to help someone"
[6/8/13 12:43:05 AM] Rather Dashing: which honestly
[6/8/13 12:43:13 AM] Rather Dashing: makes him a good candidate for "space police"
[6/8/13 12:44:06 AM] Alcoremortis: He doesn't even comment on the fact that the guy seems to have no skin. I dunno. Sure helping someone is all well and good, but it seemed unnatural that he wasn't even a little bit surprised by the spaceship alien
[6/8/13 12:44:13 AM] Alcoremortis: Not even a "whooaah! You
[6/8/13 12:44:20 AM] Alcoremortis: you're not from around here, are you?"
[6/8/13 12:44:46 AM] Alcoremortis: I feel he should have commented. And also not assumed that alien breathes air
[6/8/13 12:45:09 AM] Alcoremortis: Assuming everyone shares human traits is a bad candidate for space police
[6/8/13 12:45:24 AM] Rather Dashing: It's an emergency. He's doing what he knows in an emergency. I dunno, people react according to instinct in emergency situations
[6/8/13 12:45:55 AM] Rather Dashing: when time is of the essence and shit's going down people don't process the same as they would if they were watching it casually as a video
[6/8/13 12:45:56 AM] Rather Dashing: i dunno
[6/8/13 12:46:02 AM] Rather Dashing: this bit doesn't bother me
[6/8/13 12:46:11 AM] Alcoremortis: That would have made sense if he were a firefighter or someone who deals with helping people all the time.
[6/8/13 12:46:15 AM] Alcoremortis: But he's a test pilot
[6/8/13 12:46:28 AM] Rather Dashing: yeah, so he sort of has to know about crashes.
[6/8/13 12:46:36 AM] Alcoremortis: You know...
[6/8/13 12:46:42 AM] Alcoremortis: This would have been a good place for a flashback
[6/8/13 12:46:52 AM] Alcoremortis: Like "oh shit just like my dad"
[6/8/13 12:46:58 AM] Rather Dashing: Yeah.
[6/8/13 12:47:08 AM] Alcoremortis: And then it would make sense that he was thinking CRASH CRASH CRASH
[6/8/13 12:47:10 AM] Alcoremortis: and not alien
[6/8/13 12:47:20 AM] Rather Dashing: I dunno, it seems to me like the reaction is fine
[6/8/13 12:47:35 AM] Rather Dashing: The guy is supposed to be a hero who has to take in a lot of alien stuff very quickly
[6/8/13 12:48:02 AM] Rather Dashing: and he's supposed to be really special in the bravery and heling peopleness part of it
[6/8/13 12:48:13 AM] Rather Dashing: so i dunno, it seems like he reacts fine
[6/8/13 12:49:16 AM] Alcoremortis: Still think you need a flashback or to emphasize it earlier. Because he was totally not giving me the vibe that he was the sort of person who would ignore a spaceship for a crash
[6/8/13 12:50:11 AM] Alcoremortis: Like instead of that intro rubbish, maybe have something that defines his character as the sort of person that wants to rush out and help people
[6/8/13 12:50:21 AM] Alcoremortis: so it's not so weird
[6/8/13 12:51:12 AM] Rather Dashing: Maybe
[6/8/13 12:51:26 AM] Rather Dashing: I know the sort of person that a Green Lantern is supposed to be beforehand
[6/8/13 12:51:29 AM] Rather Dashing: so maybe that helps?
[6/8/13 12:51:43 AM] Alcoremortis: Probably. But I don't. And the movie should be self-contained.
[6/8/13 12:51:55 AM] Alcoremortis: I should be able to get everything I need to know about the character from the movie
[6/8/13 12:52:15 AM] Alcoremortis: So far, I know Hal is an asshole who still loves his nephew.
[6/8/13 12:52:32 AM] Rather Dashing: No, it definitely should be, but shouldn't rushing to help someone in a crash and not commenting about it being at all odd already show that he's the sort of person who would rush into a crash without worrying about whether or not the guy is an alien with a spaceship?
[6/8/13 12:53:27 AM] Alcoremortis: I think that it feels unnatural and out of character. Since it's a plot point, it shouldn't be something that also sets up a basic character trait
[6/8/13 12:53:53 AM] Alcoremortis: We should have something show us that he's this kind of guy and then it makes sense that he gets chosen
[6/8/13 12:54:02 AM] Alcoremortis: That he helps the alien instead of freaking out
[6/8/13 12:54:43 AM] Alcoremortis: Instead of me going "why's he doing that? Is he an idiot?" I'd be nodding along going "Oh yeah... that makes sense because he would do this for anyone
[6/8/13 12:55:14 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, the bit with the plane at the beginning almost made me think that he might have a panic attack seeing another crashed plane thing
[6/8/13 12:57:52 AM] Alcoremortis: Like, we know he's irresponsible and a hothead that will do stupid things to win from the plane flying bit. We know he's loving because he gave his nephew that plane, but forgetful because he just grabbed it at the last minute. We know he takes risks often because of the throwaway motorcycle line and the fact that he's the most terrible driver ever.
But we don't know that his first reaction is to help someone in need. I mean he used his flying partner AS BAIT in the training exercise... this would seem to say the opposite, where he sacrifices anyone and everyone to win
[6/8/13 12:58:47 AM] Alcoremortis: Therefore jarring when he doesn't even hesitate. And a plotpoint shouldn't be jarring in that way. Not where you start immediately thinking that somethings OOC
[6/8/13 1:04:03 AM] Rather Dashing: I feel like the problem is more the flight sequence having him use the partner as bait, which was awful and set the character wrong, rather than the alien crash sequence itself
[6/8/13 1:04:42 AM] Alcoremortis: My problem with the alien crash is that it wasn't set up in a way that would make me, a nonfan, believe any of it
[6/8/13 1:05:09 AM] Rather Dashing: That whole flight sequence was the WORST version of a very common thread among Hal Jordan origins
[6/8/13 1:06:41 AM] Alcoremortis: What should have happened is she should have been in trouble, but he has the opportunity to take out the drones... but then breaks from the plan to draw them off and then does the stupid stunt to still save the day but also lose it
[6/8/13 1:07:14 AM] Alcoremortis: Or something to show that he's reckless and also wants to instinctively protect people
[6/8/13 1:07:20 AM] Alcoremortis: Even though she's not actually in danger
[6/8/13 1:08:28 AM] Alcoremortis: He uses ultimate power to deal with three thugs
[6/8/13 1:08:31 AM] Alcoremortis: I have no words
[6/8/13 1:09:30 AM] Alcoremortis: three thugs who were pissed that he got them fired. Which is an understandable reason to be pissed
[6/8/13 1:10:31 AM] Rather Dashing: He tends to use his power badly.
[6/8/13 1:10:35 AM] Rather Dashing: He uses it worse later.
[6/8/13 1:10:45 AM] Rather Dashing: In that he uses it to run home and then try to impress girls
[6/8/13 1:10:58 AM] Rather Dashing: while everyone else is in trouble
[6/8/13 1:11:14 AM] Rather Dashing: and he just assumes it's not his problem because space stuff is freaky
[6/8/13 1:11:28 AM] Alcoremortis: Strangely, I think that makes more sense given what I've been shown of his character
[6/8/13 1:11:39 AM] Alcoremortis: Why does he get a mask?
[6/8/13 1:11:44 AM] Alcoremortis: None of the other dudes had masks
[6/8/13 1:11:53 AM] Alcoremortis: they just had their face
[6/8/13 1:12:28 AM] Rather Dashing: Whether or not you get a mask is either a choice or a sort of instinctive thing
[6/8/13 1:13:29 AM] Rather Dashing: The uniform isn't really codified all that well because not everybody is a bipedal humanoid
[6/8/13 1:13:38 AM] Alcoremortis: Ah.
[6/8/13 1:13:46 AM] Alcoremortis: I like the green lantern planet
[6/8/13 1:13:56 AM] Rather Dashing: Oa?
[6/8/13 1:14:00 AM] Alcoremortis: The design. Yes
[6/8/13 1:14:14 AM] Rather Dashing: Ah
[6/8/13 1:14:26 AM] Alcoremortis: I like floating buildings
[6/8/13 1:14:55 AM] Alcoremortis: You know what? Hal here reminds me of Hal in Megamind
[6/8/13 1:15:49 AM] Alcoremortis: And I'm starting to wonder if that part of Megamind was just totally making fun of Green Lantern (not the movie, just the character)
[6/8/13 1:16:19 AM] Alcoremortis: But yeah, totally mad with glee over finding out that he has superpowers, using them to try and pick up chicks, shirking responsibility
[6/8/13 1:16:49 AM] Alcoremortis: Except Hal in Megamind basically had Superman powers and later decided to just go full out evil because he couldn't get the girl he wanted
[6/8/13 1:17:25 AM] Alcoremortis: And Hal there also took a whole lot longer to get the powers right
[6/8/13 1:18:59 AM] Alcoremortis: I also like the weird aliens that I'll never see again
[6/8/13 1:20:10 AM] Rather Dashing: Honestly that's a problem with most Green Lantern stories
[6/8/13 1:20:32 AM] Rather Dashing: there are VERY few good Green Lantern stories that have great aliens
[6/8/13 1:20:41 AM] Rather Dashing: as anything other than background fodder
[6/8/13 1:20:54 AM] Rather Dashing: Green Lantern is mainly a book you read for cool crowd shots behind a boring story
[6/8/13 1:22:20 AM] Alcoremortis: I like the training ogre guy
[6/8/13 1:22:28 AM] Alcoremortis: Using gravity was a pretty neat trick
[6/8/13 1:23:39 AM] Alcoremortis: How's he so good at swordfighting
[6/8/13 1:24:09 AM] Rather Dashing: Kilowagg is actually a much better character than we get to see here.
[6/8/13 1:26:02 AM] Alcoremortis: He's my favorite character so far
[6/8/13 1:26:11 AM] Alcoremortis: because he actually used the ring to do something interesting
[6/8/13 1:27:28 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, if you can make anything you want with it, why restrict yourself to physical objects?
[6/8/13 1:27:39 AM] Alcoremortis: Why restrict to swords and chainsaws and shit
[6/8/13 1:27:48 AM] Alcoremortis: USE A FUCKING STAR
[6/8/13 1:27:55 AM] Alcoremortis: And the gravity from it
[6/8/13 1:28:41 AM] Alcoremortis: That CEOs son looks older than him
[6/8/13 1:29:03 AM] Rather Dashing: Hal has always been uncreative with his constructs
[6/8/13 1:30:06 AM] Alcoremortis: If Bruce Wayne got that ring, the Earth would be safe forever
[6/8/13 1:32:12 AM] Rather Dashing: There was an Elseworlds where he did
[6/8/13 1:32:49 AM] Rather Dashing: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne_(Earth-32)
[6/8/13 1:37:00 AM] Alcoremortis: That's kinda brill
[6/8/13 1:38:49 AM] Alcoremortis: why can whastisface suddenly start reading minds?
[6/8/13 1:39:59 AM] Rather Dashing: Who?
[6/8/13 1:40:14 AM] Rather Dashing: I think that was related to Parallax
[6/8/13 1:40:18 AM] Rather Dashing: the big bad guy
[6/8/13 1:40:21 AM] Rather Dashing: from the info dump
[6/8/13 1:41:15 AM] Alcoremortis: Oh
[6/8/13 1:41:25 AM] Alcoremortis: why does no one recognize Hal
[6/8/13 1:41:35 AM] Alcoremortis: I mean, these are people who have known him his whole life
[6/8/13 1:41:41 AM] Alcoremortis: and he's just wearing a tiny mask
[6/8/13 1:42:22 AM] Rather Dashing: Yeah
[6/8/13 1:42:39 AM] Rather Dashing: but comic book logic has always treated that tiny mask as enough to fool people
[6/8/13 1:42:51 AM] Alcoremortis: Maybe it has a psychic thing
[6/8/13 1:43:05 AM] Alcoremortis: Oh, and the smart buddy guy figured it out
[6/8/13 1:43:18 AM] Alcoremortis: and criticized his method
[6/8/13 1:43:22 AM] Alcoremortis: I like that dude
[6/8/13 1:43:33 AM] Alcoremortis: He asks the questions I ask
[6/8/13 1:45:04 AM] Alcoremortis: And has the most realistic reactions to things
[6/8/13 1:45:19 AM] Alcoremortis: Also, Hal is TOTALLY like Hal in Megamind
[6/8/13 1:45:28 AM] Alcoremortis: Like identical
[6/8/13 1:45:34 AM] Alcoremortis: But not ironic.
[6/8/13 1:45:38 AM] Alcoremortis: lik
And you know what, it's fun film. Ok, it's also stupid Michael Bay film but it's also a fun Michael Bay film, if only for Sean Connery. Hell, the whole cast is rather good actually, even Nick Cage (though it's not my favourite performance of his, that still is Snake Eyes). It's just so watchable. And at the end of the day, there's not much more you need from a film.
For me, it's beyond watchable, it's a damn good movie, mainly because of Sean Connery and Ed Harris. Those two turn in amazing performances. This is one of the few Bay films where I actually pay attention to the story. Unlike the Transformers movies where I turn off my give-a-damn-o-meter and just enjoy the giant freaking robots...which, seriously, is what people should have been doing. I hate to say it, but Transformers fans are treating those movies like they raped their childhood heroes, but let's be serious here. The original Transformers cartoons were beyond silly. They're not great story-telling. It was an action series with colorful, neat images designed to make kids want to go out and buy more toys. So we got three action movies with colorful, neat images designed to make kids want to go out and buy more toys. They just added more explosions, swearing, and half-naked women sprawled over cars. Plain and simple, these movies should NOT be taken as seriously as people want to take them. Now, if the movies were based on BEAST WARS, then there damn well had better be a good, coherent story.
The problem with the Transformers movies isn't that they had explosions, swearing and half-naked women. It's that the focus of the movies wasn't on the giant kick-ass robots, but the stupid irritating humans. Man, screw humanity, we just wanted to see giant robots beating each other up in really cool action sequences. But no, we have to go through long, boring stretches about some dick called Witwicky before we can even get to those. *sigh*
I mean, you have the Iron Man movies where the combat sequences are big and spectacular, but you can still have extended bits with Tony Stark and no suit that aren't just interesting, but practically the best parts of the movie.
A movie with just robots would get really old after about twenty minutes or so.
Not to mention awesome fuckin' music!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=Kbx-akXbAzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9t6IqYtccs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di9t6IqYtccs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PtItrtUAT4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iWDzyvJfLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdn97JPlpTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=RMH3EYH1xdA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOaAiJGLfWA&feature=plpp
If it had Orson Welles then that's completely different. He could save anything just by being present.
I LIKE ROBOTS SHUT UP YOU'RE DUMB YOU HAVE COOTIES.
The first Transformers is the least hated out of the trilogy. The same writers(Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman who worked on Star Trek 2009 & Into Darkness) were brought in to write Revenge of the Fallen, but around that time, the writer's strike hit. Orci and Kurtzman pretty much handed Bay a first draft on their way out the door to the picket line. Rather than delay the film so they could get a proper script, Paramount pushed the movie. You know. Cause summer blockbuster money. The final film was screwed as a result. Movie 3 was done by different writers because Orci and Kurtzman wanted to do something else. Transformers 4...is gonna be more of the same. I don't know who is writing it, but I'm not hopeful. Anything I've wanted to see in these movies should have happened with the last one and didn't happen. No Unicron, no Dinobots. Meh.
Had Orson Welles for a bit...he died during the recording, so someone else(I think Nimoy) did a couple of Unicron's lines. I don't know if it's good or bad for Welles' legacy that his final role was a planet-sized world devourer in an animated film that he didn't really care for: "You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. Some terrible robot toys from Japan that changed from one thing to another. The Japanese have funded a full-length animated cartoon about the doings of these toys, which is all bad outer-space stuff. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen."
1986 Transformers movie is best movie!! And only movie worth talking about!
All that disagree are kill...:mad:
8/10
Great film. Whilst it doesn't feature as much of the social commentary from the comic as I would've liked, it is none the less a VAST improvement over the shitty Stallone movie. Having said that, it's a shame that it didn't have a higher budget like the '95 version because Mega City One looked a lot truer to the comic in that than with this release.
I loved the graphic use of violence in 'Dredd'; it takes me back to a less sanitised period of film-making. The ballsy gore reminds me of genre classics such as 'Robocop'. Whilst undeniably gimmicky in nature, the slow-motion sequences (caused by the citizens use of an illegal drug which alters the users perception of time down to a snails pace) are gorgeous and manage to make a bullet flying through someone's skull look strangely beautiful, as opposed to being macabre.
It's a crying shame that 'Dredd' failed to perform well at the cinema (which was hardly helped by the distributors insistence on not having cinemas show 2D screenings of the film), we'll most likely never get to see the 2nd and 3rd parts of the planned trilogy that held great promise judging (no pun intended) by this adaptation.
Calm yourself. To be perfectly honest...as much as I LOVE that movie...there're so many random plot threads for no freaking reason that it's ridiculous.
Yes... Yes... Calm...
*BANG! *
Anyone else feeling... "Calm"?
No, you don’t. Seriously, this movie is a snoozer. I don’t recommend it.
The Purge 8/10
While I can tell the movie had a meager budget, it paid off with those creepy ass masks.
The Internship 7/10
I grow tired of Vince Vaughan’s wise-assery and Owen Wilson’s sap attitude. Still, this movie was pretty funny.
Fast & Furious 6 5/10
I’m kind of a mixed bag on this one. I don’t know whether to love it or hate it.
After Earth 2/10
What a load of shit.
The Great Gatsby 7/10
As much as I hate rap music and the fact that the producers tried to mix it with jazz, I still think DiCaprio did good.
Raiders of the Lost Ark 10/10
Enough said.
That movie is so good. SO GOOD! A sequel is possible apparently possible if people make enough noise.
This movie was kinda hilarious in how completely bad it was, which is just enough to be funny. It's like a bad episode of Star Trek except that Star Trek had the excuse of being produced in the sixties.