Mistakes, plot holes and comic canon violations in the game (spoilers)

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  • edited June 2012
    Did anyone notice when you're leaving the barn it's nightfall outside, and then as soon as you get outside it's magically daytime again?

    Also, I find it impossible to believe that whatever is behind the locked door in the barn is worth me shutting off the generator and putting everyone's lives at risk. Maybe it's just me though.
  • edited June 2012
    Lee is afraid to retrieve keys from in front of the dead cop's mouth, as if he knew what zombies were.

    Most people are freaked out by dead bodies(I know I am). I don't blame Lee for not wanting to get that close to a corpse.
  • edited June 2012
    ragdoll556 wrote: »
    Most people are freaked out by dead bodies(I know I am). I don't blame Lee for not wanting to get that close to a corpse.

    while that may be true he did kinda... kill a dude. :P
  • edited June 2012
    while that may be true he did kinda... kill a dude. :P

    That's a good point, but we don't know for certain that he actually killed the senator...yet.
  • edited July 2012
    ragdoll556 wrote: »
    That's a good point, but we don't know for certain that he actually killed the senator...yet.

    That's not true. Lee admits it in several occasions.
  • edited July 2012
    That's not true. Lee admits it in several occasions.

    Yes, but he also admits on one point that it was an accident. So we don't know if he is a stone cold murderer, or just a guy that found himself at the wrong place in the wrong time.
  • edited July 2012
    Episode 2 Spoiler

    This is a minor plothole but at the end of episode 2 when they were at the dinner table getting ready to eat, Lee comes down the stairs and tells them they were eating humans and that Mark was upstairs legless. Kenny then said something like "Lee calm down, you're scaring the kids". Why would Lee say this if he was also skeptical of them and told Lee to search the Barn in the first place? I just thought his reaction would be a little different.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    The_Ripper wrote: »
    Repeat: It's survival. Keeping your group feeded and watered most time possible.

    While describing the situation to a friend of mine, I had another thought. The option to take only part of the food might have been planned, but was eventually cut from the episode. Seriously, you take every box of food out of the car separately, forcing you to click again to pick the next box.

    Somehow I imagine that in an early build of episode 2, there was the option to abandon operation nickfood after each of these boxes.
  • edited July 2012
    While describing the situation to a friend of mine, I had another thought. The option to take only part of the food might have been planned, but was eventually cut from the episode. Seriously, you take every box of food out of the car separately, forcing you to click again to pick the next box.

    Somehow I imagine that in an early build of episode 2, there was the option to abandon operation nickfood after each of these boxes.

    People in the group wouldn't accept that. If you accept looting the car then you have to take all the boxes. People would say it's pointless don't take part of the trunk's content if you say that's not stealing (which it isn't).
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    Do they accept in full if you're NOT looting the car at all? I think they do!

    Maybe Lee has crystallized as the real group leader in episode 2 - this last decision certainly is an indication.
  • edited July 2012
    I don't think it does, because they call him stupid and loot the car anyway. Just like when they looked to him to decide whether or not to go to the Farm at the start, if they don't like Lee's decision, they veto it quickly.
  • edited July 2012
    Yeah. That certainly would be my reaction. lol

    I find it interesting that later, when Herschel and Rick speak about killing walkers, Herschel reacts like killing them is a terrible thing. This is probably due to the emotional affect of Shawn's death though. Fickle damn people. Sure, everything changes when it's your kin on the line. Screw everyone else.

    Its not related to the series
  • edited July 2012
    kayzee22 wrote: »
    Its not related to the series

    Quoted wrong person
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    Welcome, kayzee. You have the option to change and delete your own posts by clicking the "edit" button. ;)
  • edited July 2012
    This was pointed out in another topic, but I'm bringing it here. Magic guns. Ep. 1 Carly doesn't chamber a round when you toss her the clip. Ep. 2 the St. Johns bolt action rifles are semi-auto.

    When you get back from the first bandit attack and choose 'The fence came on!' or something like that, the brother's excuse is that he heard Mark yell and thought that was the all-clear sign to turn the fence on... which is BS.
  • edited July 2012
    When you get back from the first bandit attack and choose 'The fence came on!' or something like that, the brother's excuse is that he heard Mark yell and thought that was the all-clear sign to turn the fence on... which is BS.

    Well that was the idea, the brother lied.
  • edited July 2012
    Right but Lee was there. He knows it's a lie.
  • edited July 2012
    Right but Lee was there. He knows it's a lie.

    True, but he was probably more worried about his friend being shot with an arrow to notice.
  • edited July 2012
    I'm still calling BS on it.
  • edited July 2012
    Zombieface wrote: »
    When Clem has to go potty, and she says someone is in the bathroom, Lee says that it's just locked, that the keys are behind the counter (cause he grew up there, ya know.. so he knows they kept the bathroom locked and the keys behind the counter).. but what I am wondering, is why were the keys still behind the counter if someone was locked in there?... if someone locked themselves in there surely they'd have the keys on them... unless they went and put the keys back before locking themselves in.. but I would imagine if they're locking themselves in the bathroom that they're in a frantic situation and wouldn't think to go put the keys back behind the counter.. and if someone else locked them in there, I doubt they'd be like "oh well let me just go put the keys back where they belong"....

    There's a lot more mistakes I've noticed.. I'm gonna play through again and write them all down lol. Love the game though, even with the silly mistakes! Hope they think the next episodes through a little more though! :3
    I don't think the door was locked. Clementine said that it was occupied, to which Lee said that it probably just locked and that the keys were behind the counter. Besides, the person came out of the bathroom eventually.
  • edited July 2012
    I don't know if I missed something, but can someone tell me where Kenny got the RV from?
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    I think it was on the motel parking space all along.
  • edited July 2012
    I think it was on the motel parking space all along.

    Yeah, didn't we use it as cover before stabbing one of the zombies in the eye?
  • edited July 2012
    ah yes now I remember thanks
  • edited July 2012
    Episode 2 Spoiler

    This is a minor plothole but at the end of episode 2 when they were at the dinner table getting ready to eat, Lee comes down the stairs and tells them they were eating humans and that Mark was upstairs legless. Kenny then said something like "Lee calm down, you're scaring the kids". Why would Kenny say this if he was also skeptical of them and told Lee to search the Barn in the first place? I just thought his reaction would be a little different.

    I totally agree. That's totally out of Kenny's character. I would expect Kenny to believe Lee instictively in that situation.
  • edited July 2012
    Zombieface wrote: »
    When Clem has to go potty, and she says someone is in the bathroom, Lee says that it's just locked, that the keys are behind the counter (cause he grew up there, ya know.. so he knows they kept the bathroom locked and the keys behind the counter).. but what I am wondering, is why were the keys still behind the counter if someone was locked in there?... if someone locked themselves in there surely they'd have the keys on them... unless they went and put the keys back before locking themselves in.. but I would imagine if they're locking themselves in the bathroom that they're in a frantic situation and wouldn't think to go put the keys back behind the counter.. and if someone else locked them in there, I doubt they'd be like "oh well let me just go put the keys back where they belong"....

    There's a lot more mistakes I've noticed.. I'm gonna play through again and write them all down lol. Love the game though, even with the silly mistakes! Hope they think the next episodes through a little more though! :3

    Usually, when I go to the bathroom in a work area, there's a lock on the inside... You know, just turn it and it's locked. Maybe someone got bit, went in and locked themselves in. Or, considering what we know
    maybe they locked themselves in and just starved to death, or had a heart/panic attack and died. Since you don't have to be bitten

    Regardless, it'd make more sense that it was already unlocked, someone rushed in to use the restroom, locked the door from the inside, and died somehow. (Succumbed to wounds, or the before mentioned stuff int he spoiler tag)
  • edited July 2012
    Larry isn't even Lilly's father. In the upcoming novel, her dads name is Everett Ray. PLOT HOLE DISCOVERED.
  • edited July 2012
    All right then, here's one of mine. :D

    When the group runs into the drugstore, Glenn applies a padlock to make the store zombie safe. We assume that Glenn has the key to the padlock, and we will also assume that padlocks are a very valuable commodity in times like these!

    ...Lee opens the padlock with an axe, destroying it and making a lot more noise than absolutely necessary. Huh?? What was that for??

    It was a combination lock not a standard key operated pad lock, he probably grabbed as pure reaction, I would also assume that the strength of the lock itself might relate to the amount of noise made when struck.

    someone also mentioned that Glenn and co hadn't locked it when they first entered but that may have been because they hadn't been seen or that the number of zombies was so small it was unlikely they could pose a threat to the gates and the door.

    The zombie in the toilet and the keys could be that someone in the store had been bit and put in there as a precaution and the door locked from the outside to keep them in there and then simply forgotten in the event that someone else turned (going by the blood in the office)
  • edited July 2012
    Ismokeherb wrote: »
    Larry isn't even Lilly's father. Read the novel, her dads name is Everett Ray. PLOT HOLE DISCOVERED.

    Everett is his middle name. His full name is Lee Evere - OH MY GOOOOOODDDDDD
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    It was a combination lock not a standard key operated pad lock, he probably grabbed as pure reaction, I would also assume that the strength of the lock itself might relate to the amount of noise made when struck.

    Thanks! Good thing we found out about that six pages and two and a half months ago. :o
  • edited July 2012
    Everett is his middle name. His full name is Lee Evere - OH MY GOOOOOODDDDDD

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    It could be that TTG's Lilly isn't the one from the comics. I guess we'll know after the next episode if she is or not.
  • edited July 2012
    Ismokeherb wrote: »
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    It could be that TTG's Lilly isn't the one from the comics. I guess we'll know after the next episode if she is or not.

    They stated that it was the same Lily on several occasions, hell they even hinted towards what she does to Ricks family.

    I do think this is a plot hole,

    Comic death of Larry, or Everett.

    "Killed byEdit
    Zombies
    Everett saved Lilly by locking her into a bus, causing himself to be devoured."

    They have the same first and last name in the comic and game series.

    Hell, you could be right. I honestly don't think this is something TT would miss.
  • edited July 2012
    it also says on the wiki :After the apocalypse broke out, Lilly and Everett stood together for a short while. When they were attacked by a smaller herd, Everett saved Lilly by locking her into a bus.

    i haven't read The Walking Dead: The Road To Woodbury so i dont know if that is a story told by lilly or it happened in the book.

    if it was a story she could have used lee to give her dad a heroes ending as a lie to tell people.

    why did they call Lee, Lee Everett? seems weird.

    maybe larry is a nick name, or it actually isnt the same lilly, and it was just a big trick to surprise the comic fans when she dies
  • edited July 2012
    Did anybody notice the fact that Hershel said that his son died days after he was bitten in the comics? The game just showed Shaun dying moments after he was bitten.
  • edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Did anybody notice the fact that Hershel said that his son died days after he was bitten in the comics? The game just showed Shaun dying moments after he was bitten.

    he could have been unconscious?
  • edited July 2012
    he could have been unconscious?

    Knowing Hershel, he probably could have denied the fact that he died until he turned. Or unconscious.
  • edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Did anybody notice the fact that Hershel said that his son died days after he was bitten in the comics? The game just showed Shaun dying moments after he was bitten.

    Yeah that was covered on page 2 of this thread.
  • edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Knowing Hershel, he probably could have denied the fact that he died until he turned. Or unconscious.

    yeah maybe he thought he was just ill until the time he actually tried to eat him, then he was just ill in the head aswell
  • edited July 2012
    tobar wrote: »
    Yeah that was covered on page 2 of this thread.

    I was just being lazy. Thanks for the heads-up, though.
  • edited August 2012
    it also says on the wiki :After the apocalypse broke out, Lilly and Everett stood together for a short while. When they were attacked by a smaller herd, Everett saved Lilly by locking her into a bus.

    i haven't read The Walking Dead: The Road To Woodbury so i dont know if that is a story told by lilly or it happened in the book.

    if it was a story she could have used lee to give her dad a heroes ending as a lie to tell people.

    why did they call Lee, Lee Everett? seems weird.

    maybe larry is a nick name, or it actually isnt the same lilly, and it was just a big trick to surprise the comic fans when she dies

    Is The Road To Woodbury even out yet? The Wiki says it is scheduled for release in October... how could anybody know the name of Lily's supposed father in the novel if it hasn't been released?
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