What Do you think Will be The Consequences of (SPOILER) Stealing from the Car?

edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
The decision of stealing or not the food from the car was the hardest for me. In first place, it moved me that Clem :) faced all the group, so i finally decided to support her, because i didn't wanted that she feel alone, but later that night i thought that was a coward action from me let her be hungry by just a moral choice. What do you think will be the Consequences of what we all choose for the next Episodes(Share your decision).

PD Sorry for my bad english. My Native Language is Spanish.
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  • edited July 2012
    I think it will be less of a playable situational consequence and more of one that shapes Clementine and how she views the world.

    If you leave the food, you are reinforcing her belief that stealing is never okay.

    If you take the food, she gets the impression that stealing is okay. You can then try to make her understand that this is not completely a wrong or right issue, and perhaps reinforce that sometimes the right thing to do IS (morally) wrong.
  • edited July 2012
    I think it will be less of a playable situational consequence and more of one that shapes Clementine and how she views the world.

    If you leave the food, you are reinforcing her belief that stealing is never okay.

    If you take the food, she gets the impression that stealing is okay. You can then try to make her understand that this is not completely a wrong or right issue, and perhaps reinforce that sometimes the right thing to do IS (morally) wrong.

    And what did you choose?
  • edited July 2012
    Dasacugo wrote: »
    The decision of stealing or not the food from the car was the hardest for me. In first place, it moved me that Clem :) faced all the group, so i finally decided to support her, because i didn't wanted that she feel alone, but later that night i thought that was a coward action from me let her be hungry by just a moral choice. What do you think will be the Consequences of what we all choose for the next Episodes(Share your decision).

    PD Sorry for my bad english. My Native Language is Spanish.

    Can I just say that your english is very good.
  • edited July 2012
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    Can I just say that your english is very good.

    jaja, thanks, i'm in an advanced level for my country, but i'm not an expert speaker.
  • edited July 2012
    Dasacugo wrote: »
    And what did you choose?

    I chose to take the food, and attempt to explain to Clementine that doing this was not the same as the bandits.
  • edited July 2012
    I said no to ensure loyalty in clem, just in case if she dident totaly except my killings of a certain pair of sausage roles.
  • edited July 2012
    I chose to take the food, and attempt to explain to Clementine that doing this was not the same as the bandits.
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    I said no to ensure loyalty in clem, just in case if she dident totaly except my killings of a certain pair of sausage roles.

    I'm thinking that maybe this decision it's going to affect to other characters, like Lily, if you take the food, she will look to you with contempt and disappointment, but , if you don't take the food, you will be despised by the rest of the group, like Kenny or Katja.
  • edited July 2012
    Dasacugo wrote: »
    I'm thinking that maybe this decision it's going to affect to other characters, like Lily, if you take the food, she will look to you with contempt and disappointment, but , if you don't take the food, you will be despised by the rest of the group, like Kenny or Katja.

    I'm over Lily. "Sticking my neck out to save a child is WRONG, but so is taking food from an abandoned car!"

    If she's wondering why she is having a hard time with this Zombie Apocalypse, it's because she has chosen to disregard the wrong set of morals.
  • edited July 2012
    Don't steal kids

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  • edited July 2012
    SPOILER: Clem is a covert agent for umbrella no joke.
  • edited July 2012
    Dasacugo wrote: »
    Did You helped killing Larry?

    I did, but not out of dislike.

    I factored in that there was a significant amount of time between when Larry hit the floor and when I was given the choice - that entire time Lily was administering CPR, but had gotten no response. It was getting significantly more risky that Larry would turn, with all of us trapped in there with him.

    I made the choice that I thought was better for the immediate safety of the group, not necessarily the one that was better for Lily's emotional state, or the one that would help me sleep better at night.
  • edited July 2012
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    SPOILER: Clem is a covert agent for umbrella no joke.

    I Knew it !! I suspected since the beginning. She's the evil daughter of Albert Wesker!!
  • edited July 2012
    Clementine wesker... that brings up a good question whats clementines last name?
  • edited July 2012
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    Clementine wesker... that brings up a good question whats clementines last name?

    Hopefully it's Obama and she gets lee into the presidents bunker.
  • edited July 2012
    Don't you understand lee is olbama.
  • edited July 2012
    SPOILER!!
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    Clementine wesker... that brings up a good question whats clementines last name?
    Hopefully it's Obama and she gets lee into the presidents bunker.

    Her Full name is Clementine Marsh, and if you see the title of The Chapter 5 of the Final Episode, it's called "The Marsh House", taht makes me think that maybe they will be back in the house of Clementine.
  • edited July 2012
    Nope clems mum starts a cult that eat people called kenny and you have to find somone called kenny and put a bullet in his head.
  • edited July 2012
    I think it's more gonna go towards what kind of person you are and how Clem see's you...

    I took the food, because Clem needs to eat, and she needed a new hoodie too! lol

    I wish I could jump in-game and explain to people why I do things, lol then they'd totally understand where I'm coming from and would stop getting so butt-hurt with me! :P
  • edited July 2012
    Zombieface wrote: »
    I think it's more gonna go towards what kind of person you are and how Clem see's you...

    I took the food, because Clem needs to eat, and she needed a new hoodie too! lol

    I wish I could jump in-game and explain to people why I do things, lol then they'd totally understand where I'm coming from and would stop getting so butt-hurt with me! :P

    That's exactly what i think!! specially the part of the hoodie, jaja , except that i didn't steal, but i'm still sorry by losing the hoodie
  • edited July 2012
    Dasacugo wrote: »
    That's exactly what i think!! specially the part of the hoodie, jaja , except that i didn't steal, but i'm still sorry by losing the hoodie

    I decided to support Clementine because i need to make her understand that i'm someone trustable, and because i know that we could survive without stealing the food. And i was so proud seeing her facing all the group, i couldn't leave her alone in that.
  • edited July 2012
    What is going to happen?

    Stealing from the car will certainly have consequences. However, if they'll be group internal or regarding the owners of the food, I don't know. The food could belong to anyone.

    I guess that the food belongs either to the bandits or to a character of the TV show. And they might not be very happy about stealing it. Maybe you're even responsible for other people's death (starvings). People will know them for being the thieves because of the hoodie. It was utterly stupid to take it.


    I did "steal" the food. There was nobody there ... the driver is probably dead and the food might just be wasted, if you leave it behind. So I explained to Clem that we're not bandits. But in this world you either eat or are being eaten.
  • edited July 2012
    cant imagine why the hell someone will not take the food. We not thieving anything the car is ABANDONED and we all are starving.
    The easier decision in the entire series i must say
  • edited July 2012
    I figure the consequence would be somebody recognizing Clem in the red hoodie that was in the car.

    Given the cans from save lots and the fact that the forest lady had a girl at one point though, the theory that she owned the car did make sense however.

    Although I don't know how the car battery could last the number of hours it went from meeting the lady to finding the car.
  • edited July 2012
    From the trailer we can see that Lee is shooting the bandit from episode 2 in the head. I assume that the car was owned by the bandits and they come to retaliate.
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    edited July 2012
    what i would love is they meet up with the people they stole supplies from and they AREN'T pissed. the gangs guilty conscience would make them paranoid.
  • edited July 2012
    Dasacugo wrote: »
    The decision of stealing or not the food from the car was the hardest for me. In first place, it moved me that Clem :) faced all the group, so i finally decided to support her, because i didn't wanted that she feel alone, but later that night i thought that was a coward action from me let her be hungry by just a moral choice. What do you think will be the Consequences of what we all choose for the next Episodes(Share your decision).

    PD Sorry for my bad english. My Native Language is Spanish.

    The only good choice is not to take the food. The food is taken anyways but Lee earns points with Clem, Lilly, Ben and Carley. Kenny hates Lee in my game so no need to go out of my way to make him happy.

    Also, the hoddie gets left behind. It's the only real link to the food and the ones who stole the food right? No need to let anyone see Clem wearing it out in public. Like bandits.
  • edited July 2012
    I think it is more of a moral consequence than physical (though I think whatever physical consequence presented could be kind of ironically funny if done right)

    It most likely is meant to influence Clementine and Lee at the very end. Both of them are on a journey through this, so the way Lee acts not only changes who he is but what Clementine will become. That makes the choices I make a lot more meaningful when I think in the long run.
  • edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    From the trailer we can see that Lee is shooting the bandit from episode 2 in the head. I assume that the car was owned by the bandits and they come to retaliate.

    **Spoilers** Well at the end of Jolene's video, she mentioned how the bandits had their attention focused on the dairy so Clementine will be safe as long as the bandits get food. So I think that because the dairy is no longer their center of attention, the bandits are scoping the area out and realize they can attack the motel. So I am not sure they are linked to the car or if they are I am not sure it is retaliation.
  • edited July 2012
    I honestly can't think of any sensible, delayed repercussions. eg. Bandits would not let strangers take their supplies, only to come back and exact revenge later on. Plus, how would they recognise any of them? Supplies are not exactly identifiable IMO, though I suppose the hoodie would. Even then, stolen supplies or not, bandits would always be hostile so it makes little difference.

    I believe it's more of a moral choice and it's there to prove your alignment, both in ethics and your group.

    So far, my only disappointment was the impact of choices in the game. Choices did not matter as far as the survivability of the group was concerned. So, though I hope otherwise, I think whether or not you choose to loot Lee & Clementine will neither starve nor get cold.
  • edited July 2012
    So I'm thinking this differently now. The bandits are probably attacking the motor inn because it was Lee's group that had trashed the dairy. Breaking the deal, the bandits go to intervene. I don't think that the bandits have anything to do with the abandoned car.
  • edited July 2012
    I did not take the food.

    Other mentioned the sweater. I think if Clem has the sweater on it will show that the group is the one that stole the food. I am sure that in the next episode the owners of the car will be met and they will see Clem wearing the sweater and know who stole their food.

    I dunno what that means as a result. The difference could be as drastic as picking Carley or Doug. Or it could be as subtle as telling Clem the word "manure". Who knows but I am thinking that because the "obvious" choice was to take the food, I am thinking it was also the "wrong" or .."makes the game very different" choice.
  • edited July 2012
    klapaucius wrote: »
    I honestly can't think of any sensible, delayed repercussions. eg. Bandits would not let strangers take their supplies, only to come back and exact revenge later on. Plus, how would they recognise any of them? Supplies are not exactly identifiable IMO, though I suppose the hoodie would. Even then, stolen supplies or not, bandits would always be hostile so it makes little difference.

    I believe it's more of a moral choice and it's there to prove your alignment, both in ethics and your group.

    So far, my only disappointment was the impact of choices in the game. Choices did not matter as far as the survivability of the group was concerned. So, though I hope otherwise, I think whether or not you choose to loot Lee & Clementine will neither starve nor get cold.

    I think you're right on target. Most of the things Lee does do not affect the outcome in any way, as many on this forum have pointed out, but they do go a long way in telling us what kind of man Lee is. In my game, Lee is not a liar or a thief but he is a killer. Lilly knows he killed a woman (Jolene) and Lilly and Clem saw Lee kill Danny. The whole group saw Lee kill Andy. These people were all going to die anyways so Lee did not alter the game but who Lee is changed.

    I think our role in all this is to flesh out the kind of a person Lee is and TTG will handle the game mechanics and background for the others.
  • edited July 2012
    thing is, they're in a new world, where the old rules dont apply anymore. trying to enforce them might be noble, but it will more than likely get you killed 1st.
    that station wagon is perfect example, if you arent an opportunist, someone else will be- and what could have benefited you and yours will now feed and keep others healthy.
    My initial playthrough I went with my gut and I was right- I took that stuff and made sure Me n Clem had food, supplies and gear to keep her warm.
    On the flipside, you look like such a sucker as everyone is is diving in and this child is looking at you with hunger in her eyes. The highroad is the road to death in TWD
  • edited July 2012
    What if the food in the abandoned car spoiled? In the future, food could be contaminated, forcing the player to choose between risking hunger or risking food-borne illness.

    I am uncertain about that abandoned car. Why would a car filled with food be abandoned? It was close to the St. John Dairy Farm, so why didn’t the bandits that were attacking Mark and Lee earlier take the food? Maybe the car crashed after the bandits. Still, there are bandits in the woods and a car is a not a quiet form of transportation. Surely, bandits and walkers could have heard a car moving through the woods.
  • edited July 2012
    What if the food in the abandoned car spoiled? In the future, food could be contaminated, forcing the player to choose between risking hunger or risking food-borne illness.

    It's only been 3 months. Canned and processed foods can be edible a year or more after the expiration date, and the food looked to be soup cans and energy bars, so there you go.

    Did make me wonder where the crew managed to get an apple... that must have been recent.

    Food-borne illness wouldn't be a risk unless the devs opted to write it in.
  • edited July 2012
    Gennadios wrote: »
    It's only been 3 months. Canned and processed foods can be edible a year or more after the expiration date, and the food looked to be soup cans and energy bars, so there you go.

    Did make me wonder where the crew managed to get an apple... that must have been recent.

    Food-borne illness wouldn't be a risk unless the devs opted to write it in.

    In a real life scenario, though, long term survival would depend upon finding a way to preserve food for as long as possible (dehydration, canning, salting, etc.), especially since we know that electricity is out (no refrigerators, or appliances that will cook food consistently). Eventually processed foods will run out. (I doubt the story will last THAT long, but who knows?)
  • edited July 2012
    In a real life scenario, though, long term survival would depend upon finding a way to preserve food for as long as possible (dehydration, canning, salting, etc.), especially since we know that electricity is out (no refrigerators, or appliances that will cook food consistently). Eventually processed foods will run out. (I doubt the story will last THAT long, but who knows?)

    A group that small really shouldn't have to worry about it. 8 people should be able to get by on hunting/scavenging and not leave enough to worry about preservation. I think Deer would be the biggest animals to hunt in Georgia and roasting it on a flame should keep it preserved just long enough to eat the whole thing without worrying about rot. Well, the writers still have the liberty to work in a food shortage storyline *cough* if they'd like.

    It's only something to worry about when the story settles into a permanent location with over 30 people that agriculture and preservation will be an issue. As you said, I can't see the story going that far.
  • edited July 2012
    choices do matter but the more obvious ones are lilly / larry and duck / kenny who ever you side with does follow in ep2 and i assume killing larry was the catalyst for lilly's exit..

    i have done both to see the differences later on
  • edited July 2012
    Why didn't Lee and Clem refuse the batteries from the car as well, like she refused the hoodie?
  • edited July 2012
    why does doug offer batteries to clem ? and still walkey talkey is broked...stupid doug..
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