Telltale really have not done well with Episode 4's release though, you can't blame people for insults. But if it's against the rules, it's against the rules I guess :rolleyes:
Except they got this episode out within roughly a month, which is something virtually everyone complained about last time.
I seriously feel for TT sometimes. No matter what they do right, the focus is always on what doesn't go right.
On another note, I think the reason PC users are having problems downloading is because EVERYONE is trying to download it at the same time.
Why do they continue to make me regret buying from them directly? Why even make it an option? I mean you'd think buying directly from a company would be less of a hassle(and cheaper) then going through a middle man(xbox/ps/steam), but for EVERY episode so far I've seen only DISADVANTAGE of buying from the TT site.
I guess I'll simply hope we're getting some last minute bug fixes or something and try to be optimistic, but who really knows due to a lack of communication.
Except they got this episode out within roughly a month, which is something virtually everyone complained about last time.
I seriously feel for TT sometimes. No matter what they do right, the focus is always on what doesn't go right.
On another note, I think the reason PC users are having problems downloading is because EVERYONE is trying to download it at the same time.
They promised monthly before the games released and they didn't deliver. And now peoples saves are glitched so they have to start all the wayf rom the beginning, achievements are messed up and some people can't even download the game. How can you feel sorry for Telltale? They need to get their act together for Episode 5 and Season 2.
They promised monthly before the games released and they didn't deliver. And now peoples saves are glitched so they have to start all the wayf rom the beginning, achievements are messed up and some people can't even download the game. How can you feel sorry for Telltale? They need to get their act together for Episode 5 and Season 2.
Because what most people fail to realize is that software companies take TIME to squash bugs, perform QA testing and all that. A month, or even two, is likely nowhere near the amount of time bigger game companies have to perform quality assurance testing. If everyone wants their monthly releases sped along at the speed of light to minimize complaining, then they should expect bugs, especially considering how many possible permutations each individual episode has. People are being unrealistic by expecting a bug-free game in a month, and I doubt anyone on these forums could do much better, myself included.
People are being unrealistic by expecting a bug-free game in a month, and I doubt anyone on these forums could do much better, myself included.
While this is true, you can say the same for TellTale.
They were, bluntly said, idiots to think to bring this out monthly | idiots for promising this to make get more buyers.
Way to ruin it's reputation.
Edit: And before you write anything...
They are company. It's not their first game. They HAVE designers, marketing guys, game testers - They have experience. They simply failed at a whole when designing the game at the get-go it seems...
Lately I'm on the verge of exploding on videogames and just looking for the slightest excuse to punch something. America gets X-Com 4 days before me, so by the time I get it I'd have already heard completion stories eight times over. Even if I were to get it a day early, it uses Steamworks and Steam has a regional timelock. When Walking Dead episode 4 was announced for today I dropped to my knees and praised the gods of gaming - finally, FINALLY some luck, the perfect distraction from my X-Com wait.
But nope. As usual when TellTale said today, they meant when I already had one leg in bed. And as usual, the TellTale website which I purchased the season pass from is the last to receive the game. And now it keeps resetting the download. Haha. Hahaha. HAHAHAHAHA!11!!!!
According to posts on their forums it's been out all day.
Really? Mine doesn't seem to have updated. I've been turning Steam off and on every hour or so and checking the game but there's nothing new there.
EDIT: Nevermind. This time when I started the game it told me that it needed to be transferred to a "new form of data," which it hasn't said once in the 3-4 hours I've been loading up the game. It seems to be downloading episode four now. Hurrah!
This is the first time I've had the in-game downloader just drop the connection every time. I don't see any advantage to it over just hosting the files themselves on their site and letting me d/l them directly, like with all episodes of everything else I've ever bought from TTG. Worst part is because I obviously would rpefer not to sit staring at a downloading status screen for the entire duration I don't see when it's dropped out without tabbing back into the game to see what it's up to. Any other kind of d/l would at least notify me if/when there was an issue, even if it *didn't* let me continue where it left off (which it also certainly should...)
Everything I've bought from them has been through the site, inc. all 3 seasons of Sam and Max, Monkey Island etc etc and this is the first time I've ever regretted it over say Steam. It should be a no-brainer but I might look into the delivery method they use next time before making a purchase decision.
While this is true, you can say the same for TellTale.
They were, bluntly said, idiots to think to bring this out monthly | idiots for promising this to make get more buyers.
But they ARE bringing it out near-monthly. And aside from some delays and some bugs that haven't really impacted my gameplay experience, they're doing an excellent job for a company that doesn't have the resources other software houses do.
They're not idiots. They saw the value in an episodic narrative, something that's been utilized in cable dramas like Lost, Breaking Bad and other successful television programs, and chose to tie it to this gaming experience. It doesn't make them idiots that they didn't pull it off with 100-percent success. It makes them ambitious, and it helps them learn for future installments.
Edit: And before you write anything...
They are company. It's not their first game. They HAVE designers, marketing guys, game testers - They have experience. They simply failed at a whole when designing the game at the get-go it seems...
Again, Monkey Island, Sam & Max and their other games had nowhere near the vast amount of dialogue/plot permutations that this one has. Comparing MI, which was a great game that had a fairly linear and static plot, to this, which is a game that changes in myriad ways based on what you've said or done, is not a good comparison.
But they ARE bringing it out near-monthly. And aside from some delays and some bugs that haven't really impacted my gameplay experience, they're doing an excellent job for a company that doesn't have the resources other software houses do.
The poster you're quoting didn't say "near-monthly" they said "monthly", which is EXACTLY what telltale told all of its consumers willing to pay for a game before its release, they would deliver.
You need to stop trying to defend a point that is obviously false. They DID NOT deliver on their initial promise. Period.
Since the misleading delivery dates were made public, there has been no mention from anyone within the company concerning either the botched advertising or failure of the design team. In short the situation has been handled in a childish manner by those at TT, who have ignored it so far, took a new stance, and hope we will just forget. This has obviously provoked some more than childish backlash as a result. Some, but not all of the scorn is deserved, mostly due the COMPLETE LACK OF COMMUNICATION on the matter.
So if you wish to blindly defend the company against the blankets of accusations people make, feel free... but on the previously mentioned point, consider this a suggestion; TT fucked up. Let them speak for themselves.
They brought it out first on 24.04. That's far from near-monthly.
And aside from some delays and some bugs that haven't really impacted my gameplay experience, they're doing an excellent job for a company that doesn't have the resources other software houses do.
This isn't a game with overly complicated gameplay or highly difficult programming. Movement bugs of characters in static scenes are fast found / fixed. There is nearly nothing in this game which can bug so hard that it's highly annoying. [ Brenda-glitch for example was one of the possible ones, and yea.. You saw. ^^ ]
They're not idiots. They saw the value in an episodic narrative
Yea, it's not hard to see some value in that.
It doesn't make them idiots that they didn't pull it off with 100-percent success.
There are enough small things that sum up to call them idiots, making the same mistakes all over again.
Best example are the forums. Something especially went bad, when people ARE complaining about something. 90% don't say anything anyways, so you have to listen to the ones complaining...
But we are going to far and before you want me to list up their mistakes - No, I won't cause I don't care
It makes them ambitious, and it helps them learn for future installments.
Why do I think that this argument is used since the first game released by TTG 0_0
Hell, you can say that about every game by a company, and it's always true. No reason to mention it. IF they actually learn is another thing.
I'm pretty sure their reputation is just fine, seeing as how this game really put them on the map.
I honestly don't believe that at least 30% of the newcomers who came for TWD will stay for the other games. They gave enough reason to casual gamers to be fed up.
But I'm not their marketing guy, so who knows.
Comparing MI, which was a great game that had a fairly linear and static plot, to this, which is a game that changes in myriad ways based on what you've said or done, is not a good comparison.
Where did I compare?
And please, "myriad" ways is way exaggerated. Keep it realistic, there are changes, yes, but there would have been possible way more.
Not to mention that I don't know the size of TTG's Team, so yeah, they then could have needed more than one month.
mine says coming soon still -- i also have to disconnect the internet until i get to the main screen in order to access anything. otherwise it just says connecting and freezes. e-mailed tech support over a month ago and got no response....
this was the first ttg product ive purchased and while the product is excellent i couldn't be more disappointed with the tech support/communication
OMFG I still can't download Still seeing it as COMING SOON. Apart from the fact that NOW I can't even get to the main menu as it says like others are encountering about the license issue :S I know that the license issue is a normal thing(happened before many times) but this is getting to insanity level :S It's 00:04am here which means it's Thursday and was supposed to get it yesterday the 10th ///// Gonna try it for the last time and if it still doesn't work gonna restart PC
Ugh... That was my fear.. Personally dont care much about achievements, but losing progress/choices would pretty much ruin the game for me.
So much for the certification bull*hit. This proves that it is mostly about money and not actual quality assurance.
Makes me wonder why microsoft needs weeks just to get it certified...
Just finished the episode and it luckily seems like there was no achievements issues here.
Well, I got the "get" button and stared downloading. I believe that was around 2 hours ago. I haven't been able to download beyond 22%, and then it tells me I've lost the connection and starts over at 10%. I think I have tried over ten times with the same results. While I had this issue with episode 2, it was nowhere near as bad, maybe took 2 hours to download. Episode 3 was worse than 2, it had the same problem and took 4 hours to download. The difference with both of those and what's happening with Episode 4, is that they would get to a certain percentage of downloading, then quit, and after about 3 tries, they would go to a higher percentage, then quit, about 3 tries at that percentage, then on to a higher one, etc, until it finally completed the download. I have no clue why this download is different, and stopping at the same place every time. It is not late at all where I live, but I'm thinking I will join the camp of "try again tomorrow" so I don't get any more frustrated. Hope others are having better luck!
tried restarting pc and retrying to enter the game but it's giving me the license issue again and of course I can't get to the main menu :S TTG please HELP ?
I've tried several times to download the latest episode tonight (PC version) and have given up as it gets stuck on 60-70% and then fails with a "lost connection" error.
I'm delighted Telltale have scored such a hit with TWD but as someone who has bought almost every game they've done before I'm also pissed off they've treated their initial fan base so badly. It seems PS3 (US) or Steam is now the way to go in order to get 'first play' on TT games?
Gaanj yours is allowing you to enter the main menu and mine isn't allowing me
spawner, take comfort in the fact that you're not the only one. After countless tries to enter the menu, and occasionally succeeding (I don't know how), it always failed to download episode 4. So I tried Eozen's trick and it worked - next time I clicked "GET", it was installed. Of course I tried to play it - what do you know, next crash. And now the program only starts in windowed mode and prompts me to enter my user name and password - upon which it does exactly nothing. Just the empty TWD screen with the hints scrolling at the top. So yeah - you're definetly not the only one experiencing recurring problems with TWD.
Finally managed to get onto the main menu, never been an issue before now, to find that it is still coming soon. It's midnight here and I'm not in the mood to stay up all night grinding my teeth, I'll cross my fingers and hope it gets sorted whilst I sleep.
Finally managed to get onto the main menu, never been an issue before now, to find that it is still coming soon. It's midnight here and I'm not in the mood to stay up all night grinding my teeth, I'll cross my fingers and hope it gets sorted whilst I sleep.
Was it telling you about the issue I have about the game license too ?
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On Steam I think it's out. Go get it!!
According to posts on their forums it's been out all day.
Except they got this episode out within roughly a month, which is something virtually everyone complained about last time.
I seriously feel for TT sometimes. No matter what they do right, the focus is always on what doesn't go right.
On another note, I think the reason PC users are having problems downloading is because EVERYONE is trying to download it at the same time.
I guess I'll simply hope we're getting some last minute bug fixes or something and try to be optimistic, but who really knows due to a lack of communication.
They promised monthly before the games released and they didn't deliver. And now peoples saves are glitched so they have to start all the wayf rom the beginning, achievements are messed up and some people can't even download the game. How can you feel sorry for Telltale? They need to get their act together for Episode 5 and Season 2.
Edit: It was more like a month and a half anyway.
Because what most people fail to realize is that software companies take TIME to squash bugs, perform QA testing and all that. A month, or even two, is likely nowhere near the amount of time bigger game companies have to perform quality assurance testing. If everyone wants their monthly releases sped along at the speed of light to minimize complaining, then they should expect bugs, especially considering how many possible permutations each individual episode has. People are being unrealistic by expecting a bug-free game in a month, and I doubt anyone on these forums could do much better, myself included.
I'm estimating, but it was approximately 35-40 days.
While this is true, you can say the same for TellTale.
They were, bluntly said, idiots to think to bring this out monthly | idiots for promising this to make get more buyers.
Way to ruin it's reputation.
Edit: And before you write anything...
They are company. It's not their first game. They HAVE designers, marketing guys, game testers - They have experience. They simply failed at a whole when designing the game at the get-go it seems...
But nope. As usual when TellTale said today, they meant when I already had one leg in bed. And as usual, the TellTale website which I purchased the season pass from is the last to receive the game. And now it keeps resetting the download. Haha. Hahaha. HAHAHAHAHA!11!!!!
Really? Mine doesn't seem to have updated. I've been turning Steam off and on every hour or so and checking the game but there's nothing new there.
EDIT: Nevermind. This time when I started the game it told me that it needed to be transferred to a "new form of data," which it hasn't said once in the 3-4 hours I've been loading up the game. It seems to be downloading episode four now. Hurrah!
Playing FTL in the meanwhile :cool:
Everything I've bought from them has been through the site, inc. all 3 seasons of Sam and Max, Monkey Island etc etc and this is the first time I've ever regretted it over say Steam. It should be a no-brainer but I might look into the delivery method they use next time before making a purchase decision.
Here's the proof:
But they ARE bringing it out near-monthly. And aside from some delays and some bugs that haven't really impacted my gameplay experience, they're doing an excellent job for a company that doesn't have the resources other software houses do.
They're not idiots. They saw the value in an episodic narrative, something that's been utilized in cable dramas like Lost, Breaking Bad and other successful television programs, and chose to tie it to this gaming experience. It doesn't make them idiots that they didn't pull it off with 100-percent success. It makes them ambitious, and it helps them learn for future installments.
I'm pretty sure their reputation is just fine, seeing as how this game really put them on the map.
Again, Monkey Island, Sam & Max and their other games had nowhere near the vast amount of dialogue/plot permutations that this one has. Comparing MI, which was a great game that had a fairly linear and static plot, to this, which is a game that changes in myriad ways based on what you've said or done, is not a good comparison.
The poster you're quoting didn't say "near-monthly" they said "monthly", which is EXACTLY what telltale told all of its consumers willing to pay for a game before its release, they would deliver.
You need to stop trying to defend a point that is obviously false. They DID NOT deliver on their initial promise. Period.
Since the misleading delivery dates were made public, there has been no mention from anyone within the company concerning either the botched advertising or failure of the design team. In short the situation has been handled in a childish manner by those at TT, who have ignored it so far, took a new stance, and hope we will just forget. This has obviously provoked some more than childish backlash as a result. Some, but not all of the scorn is deserved, mostly due the COMPLETE LACK OF COMMUNICATION on the matter.
So if you wish to blindly defend the company against the blankets of accusations people make, feel free... but on the previously mentioned point, consider this a suggestion; TT fucked up. Let them speak for themselves.
OnTopic: Still "COMING SOON" on Ep. 4
This isn't a game with overly complicated gameplay or highly difficult programming. Movement bugs of characters in static scenes are fast found / fixed. There is nearly nothing in this game which can bug so hard that it's highly annoying. [ Brenda-glitch for example was one of the possible ones, and yea.. You saw. ^^ ]
Yea, it's not hard to see some value in that.
There are enough small things that sum up to call them idiots, making the same mistakes all over again.
Best example are the forums. Something especially went bad, when people ARE complaining about something. 90% don't say anything anyways, so you have to listen to the ones complaining...
But we are going to far and before you want me to list up their mistakes - No, I won't cause I don't care
Why do I think that this argument is used since the first game released by TTG 0_0
Hell, you can say that about every game by a company, and it's always true. No reason to mention it. IF they actually learn is another thing.
I honestly don't believe that at least 30% of the newcomers who came for TWD will stay for the other games. They gave enough reason to casual gamers to be fed up.
But I'm not their marketing guy, so who knows.
Where did I compare?
And please, "myriad" ways is way exaggerated. Keep it realistic, there are changes, yes, but there would have been possible way more.
Not to mention that I don't know the size of TTG's Team, so yeah, they then could have needed more than one month.
Yeah. Yeah sure I would like to buy it twice.
Seriously, get your s%it together, Telltale.
this was the first ttg product ive purchased and while the product is excellent i couldn't be more disappointed with the tech support/communication
Same here. Around 15 minutes ago it actually started, but when I went to the download section Episode 4 was still "coming soon".
I think I will survive. It's almost sleepy time (2340h) and I have to get up at 0710h. Maybe tomorrow …
Did it the manual way but I think it only works if you have the GET button appearing.
I'm delighted Telltale have scored such a hit with TWD but as someone who has bought almost every game they've done before I'm also pissed off they've treated their initial fan base so badly. It seems PS3 (US) or Steam is now the way to go in order to get 'first play' on TT games?
disconnect your internet until it loads to the main screen with the barn then reconnect
spawner, take comfort in the fact that you're not the only one. After countless tries to enter the menu, and occasionally succeeding (I don't know how), it always failed to download episode 4. So I tried Eozen's trick and it worked - next time I clicked "GET", it was installed. Of course I tried to play it - what do you know, next crash. And now the program only starts in windowed mode and prompts me to enter my user name and password - upon which it does exactly nothing. Just the empty TWD screen with the hints scrolling at the top. So yeah - you're definetly not the only one experiencing recurring problems with TWD.
Was it telling you about the issue I have about the game license too ?