Sony Playstation 4
Here is the PS4 Press Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh8KLN-l86o
Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?
For my part, I'm putting my money into Sony's camp, and hope that the XBox One is a colossal failure.
Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?
For my part, I'm putting my money into Sony's camp, and hope that the XBox One is a colossal failure.
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Yes, I think the blunders being made for the One are worth catastrophic financial ruin. If the Xbox division ended up losing Microsoft millions and they had to shut the whole thing down I'd feel absolutely no remorse whatsoever.
Okay, well I don't feel that way seeing as they're just trying to make as much money as possible like any other company. Don't buy it if you don't want it but I don't think liking one thing should mean you want it's competitors to fail (nor should you like something's competitors if you don't like it)
That is not an excuse for anti-consumer behavior. That is an incentive AGAINST anti-consumer behavior. Consumers aren't OBLIGATED to buy something that goes against their interests just because the company producing that thing "just wants to make money". The company's JOB, or at least what is SUPPOSED to be the company's JOB, is to make money by providing something that the CONSUMER WOULD WANT TO PAY FOR.
Treating the consumer like an enemy or a parasite is a perversion of the natural capitalistic process and deserves to be punished.
No.
This isn't "I like Warner Bros. animation, so I hope Disney fails."
This isn't "I like Nintendo consoles, so I hope SONY and Microsoft fail."
This isn't "I like Jiff peanut butter, so I hope Peter Pan goes out of business."
This is "Microsoft is making horrible, anti-consumer choices, and they deserve market backlash as a direct consequence of those choices."
If I had to choose, I would got with the PS4. But I won't be getting it at launch. I'll be sticking with my PS3 for a long while. By the time I finish my back log of games and trophy hunting the PS4 will be half price. Or, their be a new and better model of it on the market.
Okay okay, seriously though. Just because you employ a lot of people doesn't mean you're doing good for consumers.
I'm still sitting this one out. It's PS2 all over again. I sat out the PS2/Xbox war until a game came out that blew me away... 2 years after the console debuted.
I did also notice Tidus and wondered what the heck they were thinking by putting him there.
The whole point of a video games console is that, shock horror, people primarily want to play games on it. The PS4, and to some extent the WiiU, both seem to be making very positive steps in that regard, with both high-budget (I don't like saying AAA any more, it's had some rather negative connotations lately) and Indie games being supported much more and both consoles offering more options for games - the WiiU has the 'innovative' controller and the PS4 has the touch screen on the controller.
By comparison, the XBone appears, so far, to be offering much LESS in the way of gaming. Not just in games, but in the way the console is being pushed. Less freedom to Indie game developers, less options for pre-owned games and new new options for the way the games control. Yes, there's the Kinect, but nobody LIKES the Kinect. This has been proven, so quite why they're forcing everyone to have one is an odd decision. Beyond that... there's nothing new here games-wise.
So yeah, it's easy to see why gamers are upset. The PS4 may not have blown everyone away, but at least it's trying something new while also opening the way for smaller devs to get into the scene. Is Microsoft? Nope.
I still won't get any of these consoles for quite some time - I've never been a day one buyer and nothing here seems to want to change my mind - but so far the PS4 and the WiiU have my attention far more than Microsoft.
Also, here's an abbreviated version of the PS4 conference.
If the PS4 goes on sale for 350$/€ or less and the games stay at 65$/€ or even drop in price, I'll take a second look. In any other case, I'll keep my money for sure. Haven't got enough of it anyway.
Sony haven't announced whether or not you will be able to play pre-owned games or not
They also have no backwards compatibility
The also are going to just have some black box that is probably just as ugly...
The only real difference is Sony chose to focus on games at the reveal and leave the console for E3 whilst Microsoft decided to focus on the console at the announcement and wait til E3 to announce their 15 exclusive games...
Still unless they announce 15 brilliant games...
We can only speculate until E3 where they announce Viva Pinata 3, Kameo 2, Fable 4, Blinx the Timesweeper 3, Grabbed by the Ghoullies 2, the real Banjo threeie and Announces Kinect was just a practical joke...
(I hope at least)
Was the PS4 design every shown, anywhere? From what can you infer that "they also are going to just have some black box that is probably just as ugly"?
(Looks like its just you two and me 3DS and PC, well, until Nintendo get something good out for the WiiU that is! XD)
PS4's reveal was focused on games. If i remember right, Sony spent the first 15 or 30 minutes showing the features of the PS4 and the controller and developer thoughts. Then they spent the rest of the night revealing games. Some games being Killzone Shadow Fall, inFamous Second Son, Knack, and Drive Club and it showed some multiplatform games like Watch Dogs. Also if i remember right didn't they say they were trying to make the PS4 more indie friendly? Fair enough Sony didn't reveal if PS4 will have some of the crap the Xbox One has but i hope Sony is smart enough to see all the bs Microsoft is using to get more money out of people and i hope they see the negative response that people is giving Microsoft's BS.
Sorry if i sounded harsh on this but its my opinion.
That being said. When they announce something for PS4 that I desperately want(an Arkham City SEQUEL instead of prequel or, God willing, Battlefront 3), that will be what I go for. I don't know what Microsoft is smoking with the Xbox One(stupid name BTW).
What is so bad about a prequel? I want to see some things resolved to, but more batman is more batman.
First I do want both to succeed, I just think Microsoft needs to get whooped upside the head and learn a lesson.
Two, when I see game maker conferences talking about pushing boundaries and cutting edge, I'm like, really? You're making pretty pictures move and hit each other. You know who's pushing boundaries? Those MIT boys making DRACO, or the scientists working at the Large Haldron Collider.
No i'm pretty sure it has not been shown yet because in this Playstation Blog post they basically make it look like its being shown on June 10th on another livestream.
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/05/20/playstation-4-exclusive-video-see-it-first-10th-june/
The manufacturers of the PS4 aren't breaking boundaries. Now, some game designers, from an artistic point of view, are. But SONY itself as a company is not.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/digital-foundry-says-ps4-games-require-remote-play-ps-vita
So by remote play does it mean like what the WiiU does where you have to be a certain distance from the PS4 for it to work? Because that was already confirmed at the PS4 launch and isn't really worth buying a PS Vita over. Nice to have if you own a Vita already though.
Remote play as it works right now DOES let you play PS3 content on a Vita at a different WiFi hotspot, by the way.
Ok that is an awesome feature then. Does that work for any PS3 game or just the ones that have Vita versions?
Some PS3 games that have Remote Play
Lego Batman
Lair
All the PixelJunk games
God of War Collection 1
Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection
On another note doesn't that mean Sony had the idea before Nintendo. Fair enough it was not used to its full potential and Nintendo improved on it completely but still doesn't this not mean that Sony had the idea first?
Edit:Here's a full list of the games for remote play on Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Play
Remote play connects your Vita to your PS3 over the internet and streams a video of gameplay to the Vita. The game doesn't actually RUN on the Vita, it's just getting a streaming video from the PS3 and sending input commands over WiFi(so responsiveness depends largely on connection speed). The big problem for Remote Play is support, not many titles(and even less that are worth much) currently support the PS3's remote play functionality, with the notable standouts being stuff like Lair, BlazBlue Calamity Trigger, and every PS1 game on PSN. With the PS4, apparently, they're expanding Remote Play to work with EVERY Playstation 4 title, making it a much more robust feature than it is right now.
....and here's a list to said remote play enabled games that i found on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Play
Ah, that makes a bit more sense. That would be a pretty good feature to have.
It's a pretty cool feature, and while I doubt I'll really use it, it can't exactly HURT, can it?
Look who's talking!
I saw your post in the tropes vs. women thread yesterday before it was edited!