That was me just taking the piss out of people screaming adrenaline!
You couldn't see that as you are a tad dim.
So I won't waste any more time with you.
You just copied Ja1862's response. Anyways I tell you what I told him
You can't compare Clem to every other little girl, She has been surviving for 2 years in the ZA, She is nothing like other little girls.
Although I agree that an 11 year old girl appears to be not only smarter but also stronger than the average person in the game at times. But it is a video game and I dont think this point is even close to a major concern to the community.
Fan boys won't admit that. They believe adrenaline can give a child super strength.
Id love to see a 12 year old take on jon jones, if this adrenaline thing is real he will be kissing that belt goodbye.
Why can't you put your love for the game away. Understand Clem at the end of the day is really only a little girl what she did in episode 1 season was crazy. She push walkers off her really easy to be that small. I love it but it's not real
There are plenty of cases out there of small children enduring immense pain and overcoming incredible odds to get out of a bad situation alive. Some kids are just survivors.
"Little girl's tough as nails."
There are plenty of cases out there of small children enduring immense pain and overcoming incredible odds to get out of a bad situation alive. Some kids are just survivors.
Season 1 Clem survived 3 days on her own, head-shotted a walker after one day of gun training, and dragged a 200 pound man to safety through a hoard of walkers after just seeing her zombified parents for the first time.
The situation with Clem was handled fine. She kicked a crawling walker off of her and used several means to put it down. Also, loving all this "educate yourself meathead gym talk". Priceless.
Yes she have combat experience, but how did she become that great at living in that world? Christa had to be awesome, really awesome for clem to learn so much in the 16 months we didn't see for Clem to have the heart to heal her own nasty bite. Remember when Lee had to heal her little booboo for her when she said "my finger" in the drug store?
Comparing a walker to a heavyweight MMA dude ... have to lol at this one.
Just think about it, how are most walkers 2 years after the zombie apocalypse ?
95% of them didn't eat for months
They don't drink water at all
Most of them have half their bodies chewed off
You expect an average walker to weight as much as an average healthy human ? What the hell.
I'm not saying Clem should be able to bitch slap them into oblivion but realize that legs are much MUCH stronger than arms. Even someone as little as Clem could repel a walker if she's on her back and her legs are placed correctly on the walker (like it was in the shed). of course in those conditions she can push one back... You guys never fought with your dad or borther or whatever ?
Yes she have combat experience, but how did she become that great at living in that world? Christa had to be awesome, really awesome for clem… more to learn so much in the 16 months we didn't see for Clem to have the heart to heal her own nasty bite. Remember when Lee had to heal her little booboo for her when she said "my finger" in the drug store?
Season 1 Clem survived 3 days on her own, head-shotted a walker after one day of gun training, and dragged a 200 pound man to safety through a… more hoard of walkers after just seeing her zombified parents for the first time.
And this isn't Season 1 Clem.
She didn't survive 3 days. She was just hiding and didn't eat anything for 3 days, also didn't go back in her house. If lee didn't come along she would be dead. Like that little boy hiding waiting for his dead mother and father to save him. He rests with his dog now. Rip too him that was sad. That's the point of that film so you understand the could have been clem if lee didnt come along. also for kenny to see another dead kid killed him
Season 1 Clem survived 3 days on her own, head-shotted a walker after one day of gun training, and dragged a 200 pound man to safety through a… more hoard of walkers after just seeing her zombified parents for the first time.
And this isn't Season 1 Clem.
I actually really like how they handled Clem and her strength so far. There are small things like when the guy in the woods is trying to grab her when she crawls into the log, you notice she kicks his fingers and not just any part of his body. She purposely went for a weak and vulnerable point that would also loosen his grip. Or with Sam, she places her foot right on his neck before she pushes him away, another vulnerable point. And like someone else mentioned, she painstakingly bashes walkers heads in, she cant kill them in one hit. Oh and in the woods when a walker grabs her arm, she doesn't have the strength to get away until the guy grabs her and the arm detaches.
Hitting a walker tied to a tree like 6-8 goddamn times with a stick to kill it isn't superhuman strength. The fight in the shed isn't either she has to hit it with several different weapons several times. Even when the thing is impaled on an anchor she has to smack it like 4 or 5 times with a damn hammer to make it stop moving. So, no not superhuman at all.
Hitting a walker tied to a tree like 6-8 goddamn times with a stick to kill it isn't superhuman strength. The fight in the shed isn't either s… morehe has to hit it with several different weapons several times. Even when the thing is impaled on an anchor she has to smack it like 4 or 5 times with a damn hammer to make it stop moving. So, no not superhuman at all.
She didn't survive 3 days. She was just hiding and didn't eat anything for 3 days, also didn't go back in her house. If lee didn't come along … moreshe would be dead. Like that little boy hiding waiting for his dead mother and father to save him. He rests with his dog now. Rip too him that was sad. That's the point of that film so you understand the could have been clem if lee didnt come along. also for kenny to see another dead kid killed him
Yes she have combat experience, but how did she become that great at living in that world? Christa had to be awesome, really awesome for clem… more to learn so much in the 16 months we didn't see for Clem to have the heart to heal her own nasty bite. Remember when Lee had to heal her little booboo for her when she said "my finger" in the drug store?
She didn't survive 3 days. She was just hiding and didn't eat anything for 3 days, also didn't go back in her house. If lee didn't come along … moreshe would be dead. Like that little boy hiding waiting for his dead mother and father to save him. He rests with his dog now. Rip too him that was sad. That's the point of that film so you understand the could have been clem if lee didnt come along. also for kenny to see another dead kid killed him
My issue with her being a one-line-delivering, blackmailing, self-stitching Rambo wasn't so much if it was realistic. My issue was that it essentially nullified the primary driving concern we had as an audience--concern for Clem's safety. What exactly are we supposed to be concerned about from now on? She seems a more capable person than any other adult she's met. She's even apparently threatening enough that other adults talk to her like she's Hans Gruber from Die Hard. What are our hopes for her now? She's got about 50 IQ points on any member of the season 2 cast. She herself doesn't seem all that concerned with finding Christa (and neither do we, since Clem doesn't seem to need or even like her). Additionally, unlike last season when there was an actual possibility she'd be killed off as a collateral character (ala Duck or Carly), we know she can't die as the protagonist (at least not until a full-on satisfying character arc completion).
I don't think Telltale quite understood why people liked Clem in season one. It wasn't simply because she was a little girl. (If that were the case, everyone would be up in arms over Duck's death.) It was her humanity and concern for her parents, and Lee's concern and interaction with her that we vicariously felt through him. By essentially removing all caring (both coming from Clem and also directed towards her), all we have left is the goodwill carried over from the first season. For me that's not enough, but I know from all the thumbs up/thumbs down barometers, I'm in the minority there.
I don't think Telltale quite understood why people liked Clem in season one. It wasn't simply because she was a little girl. (If that were the case, everyone would be up in arms over Duck's death.) It was her humanity and concern for her parents, and Lee's concern and interaction with her that we vicariously felt through him. By essentially removing all caring (both coming from Clem and also directed towards her), all we have left is the goodwill carried over from the first season. For me that's not enough, but I know from all the thumbs up/thumbs down barometers, I'm in the minority there.
But you can choose to make her still sweet and kind and have her humanity. Obviously Lee and her parents are dead, so those aren't gonna be relevant anymore.
What she did in the episode wasn't because she had lost her humanity or didn't care about anyone or anything, She did it to survive, It's not because she is a badass (although I like to think so lol) it's just survival.
Also people seem to judge too much based on 1 damn episode.
My issue with her being a one-line-delivering, blackmailing, self-stitching Rambo wasn't so much if it was realistic. My issue was that it es… moresentially nullified the primary driving concern we had as an audience--concern for Clem's safety. What exactly are we supposed to be concerned about from now on? She seems a more capable person than any other adult she's met. She's even apparently threatening enough that other adults talk to her like she's Hans Gruber from Die Hard. What are our hopes for her now? She's got about 50 IQ points on any member of the season 2 cast. She herself doesn't seem all that concerned with finding Christa (and neither do we, since Clem doesn't seem to need or even like her). Additionally, unlike last season when there was an actual possibility she'd be killed off as a collateral character (ala Duck or Carly), we know she can't die as the protagonist (at least not until a full-on satisfying character arc completion… [view original content]
I personally like the changes in Clementine. Not only is she a more interesting character IMO but it makes sense given everything she's been through. She lost her parents, Lee, Omid and Christa, she's been attacked over and over and she learned survival from these people that she loved. That coupled with the fact that she is approaching her teen years living in a world's dying and having the threat of death at every corner for the past two years would change anyone. Just because she has hardened a little bit more to ensure her survival doesnt mean she doesnt care about anything. She's shown that the losses she's experienced still hurt her.
My issue with her being a one-line-delivering, blackmailing, self-stitching Rambo wasn't so much if it was realistic. My issue was that it es… moresentially nullified the primary driving concern we had as an audience--concern for Clem's safety. What exactly are we supposed to be concerned about from now on? She seems a more capable person than any other adult she's met. She's even apparently threatening enough that other adults talk to her like she's Hans Gruber from Die Hard. What are our hopes for her now? She's got about 50 IQ points on any member of the season 2 cast. She herself doesn't seem all that concerned with finding Christa (and neither do we, since Clem doesn't seem to need or even like her). Additionally, unlike last season when there was an actual possibility she'd be killed off as a collateral character (ala Duck or Carly), we know she can't die as the protagonist (at least not until a full-on satisfying character arc completion… [view original content]
And MichonneIsClem:
Why don't you put your stupidity away and realize they're zombies. They can easily be pushed around, stabbed, or anything to harm them? Us "lovers" have common sense. We're not involved with negativity such as you.
Why can't you put your love for the game away. Understand Clem at the end of the day is really only a little girl what she did in episode 1 season was crazy. She push walkers off her really easy to be that small. I love it but it's not real
The entire episode was about the effect this entire world has on everyone. From Clem to strangers to dogs. It's a fucked up world where nobody trusts each other and Clem is growing up in it. She's taken the skills and advice from Lee and is moving forward. It's been 3 years. Think about what you were doing 3 years ago. That's some time. People change. Especially people in a really fucked up situation, let alone being that young and impressionable. Clem is still the Clem I loved in the first season. She's just affected and with good reason. Bravo Telltale.
My issue with her being a one-line-delivering, blackmailing, self-stitching Rambo wasn't so much if it was realistic. My issue was that it es… moresentially nullified the primary driving concern we had as an audience--concern for Clem's safety. What exactly are we supposed to be concerned about from now on? She seems a more capable person than any other adult she's met. She's even apparently threatening enough that other adults talk to her like she's Hans Gruber from Die Hard. What are our hopes for her now? She's got about 50 IQ points on any member of the season 2 cast. She herself doesn't seem all that concerned with finding Christa (and neither do we, since Clem doesn't seem to need or even like her). Additionally, unlike last season when there was an actual possibility she'd be killed off as a collateral character (ala Duck or Carly), we know she can't die as the protagonist (at least not until a full-on satisfying character arc completion… [view original content]
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I hate people who complain over little things.
@stevean2
He pretty much just proved he has no common sense, He is comparing fighting a walker to fighting an MMA fighter lol.
Mma
Jon jones is a mma fighter....
Common sense, try some contact sport. I know for a fact a child could not do what she did as I train within contact sport.
Educate yourself kid.
michonneisclem- people are somewhat smarter than zombies, and clem has combat experience
That was me just taking the piss out of people screaming adrenaline!
You couldn't see that as you are a tad dim.
So I won't waste any more time with you.
Bye
Shes still only a little girl. How can she take all that pain healing her nasty bite without passing out. Then kill a walker after all that pain?
People in that world are probably smarter than most of us. Smarter than they were before the walkers. I suppose the trade isn't worth it though
Is Jon Jones a rotting walker? Two years into a zombie apocalypse?
Lol oh. Ok now I get it
Why can't you put your love for the game away. Understand Clem at the end of the day is really only a little girl what she did in episode 1 season was crazy. She push walkers off her really easy to be that small. I love it but it's not real
"Little girl's tough as nails."
There are plenty of cases out there of small children enduring immense pain and overcoming incredible odds to get out of a bad situation alive. Some kids are just survivors.
Come on guy the jon Jones vs a adrenaline crazed child was obviously a piss take on people acting like adrenaline could give clem this kinda strength
You really think season 1 Clem could do that?
Season 1 Clem survived 3 days on her own, head-shotted a walker after one day of gun training, and dragged a 200 pound man to safety through a hoard of walkers after just seeing her zombified parents for the first time.
And this isn't Season 1 Clem.
The situation with Clem was handled fine. She kicked a crawling walker off of her and used several means to put it down. Also, loving all this "educate yourself meathead gym talk". Priceless.
Yes she have combat experience, but how did she become that great at living in that world? Christa had to be awesome, really awesome for clem to learn so much in the 16 months we didn't see for Clem to have the heart to heal her own nasty bite. Remember when Lee had to heal her little booboo for her when she said "my finger" in the drug store?
Comparing a walker to a heavyweight MMA dude ... have to lol at this one.
Just think about it, how are most walkers 2 years after the zombie apocalypse ?
You expect an average walker to weight as much as an average healthy human ? What the hell.
I'm not saying Clem should be able to bitch slap them into oblivion but realize that legs are much MUCH stronger than arms. Even someone as little as Clem could repel a walker if she's on her back and her legs are placed correctly on the walker (like it was in the shed). of course in those conditions she can push one back... You guys never fought with your dad or borther or whatever ?
Not even factoring in the adrenaline.
She was 8 years old when she had her "booboo" and it had only been about three days into the apocalypse, you learn to adapt as time goes on.
Excellent points! Even little 8 year old Clem had steel in her spine.
She didn't survive 3 days. She was just hiding and didn't eat anything for 3 days, also didn't go back in her house. If lee didn't come along she would be dead. Like that little boy hiding waiting for his dead mother and father to save him. He rests with his dog now. Rip too him that was sad. That's the point of that film so you understand the could have been clem if lee didnt come along. also for kenny to see another dead kid killed him
I actually really like how they handled Clem and her strength so far. There are small things like when the guy in the woods is trying to grab her when she crawls into the log, you notice she kicks his fingers and not just any part of his body. She purposely went for a weak and vulnerable point that would also loosen his grip. Or with Sam, she places her foot right on his neck before she pushes him away, another vulnerable point. And like someone else mentioned, she painstakingly bashes walkers heads in, she cant kill them in one hit. Oh and in the woods when a walker grabs her arm, she doesn't have the strength to get away until the guy grabs her and the arm detaches.
Hitting a walker tied to a tree like 6-8 goddamn times with a stick to kill it isn't superhuman strength. The fight in the shed isn't either she has to hit it with several different weapons several times. Even when the thing is impaled on an anchor she has to smack it like 4 or 5 times with a damn hammer to make it stop moving. So, no not superhuman at all.
and that's why it's unrealistic.
It doesn't have to be super realistic, stop looking into things like this so much.
yes, but the healing her nasty bite then killing a walker is superhuman.
And teh racisim runz rapidz.
That's surviving. What you just detailed is surviving...
she didn't have a choice, It was either stitch up the arm, or die. Clem's survival instincts kicked in.
Think of Clem as the new mini Lara Croft...
You act like stitching up your arm is gonna make it useless -_- Plus, she didn't even use that arm to kill the walker.....
Most kids would sit, cry and run around until they got killed.
My issue with her being a one-line-delivering, blackmailing, self-stitching Rambo wasn't so much if it was realistic. My issue was that it essentially nullified the primary driving concern we had as an audience--concern for Clem's safety. What exactly are we supposed to be concerned about from now on? She seems a more capable person than any other adult she's met. She's even apparently threatening enough that other adults talk to her like she's Hans Gruber from Die Hard. What are our hopes for her now? She's got about 50 IQ points on any member of the season 2 cast. She herself doesn't seem all that concerned with finding Christa (and neither do we, since Clem doesn't seem to need or even like her). Additionally, unlike last season when there was an actual possibility she'd be killed off as a collateral character (ala Duck or Carly), we know she can't die as the protagonist (at least not until a full-on satisfying character arc completion).
I don't think Telltale quite understood why people liked Clem in season one. It wasn't simply because she was a little girl. (If that were the case, everyone would be up in arms over Duck's death.) It was her humanity and concern for her parents, and Lee's concern and interaction with her that we vicariously felt through him. By essentially removing all caring (both coming from Clem and also directed towards her), all we have left is the goodwill carried over from the first season. For me that's not enough, but I know from all the thumbs up/thumbs down barometers, I'm in the minority there.
Anyone think maybe the walkers are lighter because they're half dissolved.
But you can choose to make her still sweet and kind and have her humanity. Obviously Lee and her parents are dead, so those aren't gonna be relevant anymore.
What she did in the episode wasn't because she had lost her humanity or didn't care about anyone or anything, She did it to survive, It's not because she is a badass (although I like to think so lol) it's just survival.
Also people seem to judge too much based on 1 damn episode.
I personally like the changes in Clementine. Not only is she a more interesting character IMO but it makes sense given everything she's been through. She lost her parents, Lee, Omid and Christa, she's been attacked over and over and she learned survival from these people that she loved. That coupled with the fact that she is approaching her teen years living in a world's dying and having the threat of death at every corner for the past two years would change anyone. Just because she has hardened a little bit more to ensure her survival doesnt mean she doesnt care about anything. She's shown that the losses she's experienced still hurt her.
Dude, you do realize the Walkers are rotting corpse that can easily be stabbed, right?
And MichonneIsClem:
Why don't you put your stupidity away and realize they're zombies. They can easily be pushed around, stabbed, or anything to harm them? Us "lovers" have common sense. We're not involved with negativity such as you.
The entire episode was about the effect this entire world has on everyone. From Clem to strangers to dogs. It's a fucked up world where nobody trusts each other and Clem is growing up in it. She's taken the skills and advice from Lee and is moving forward. It's been 3 years. Think about what you were doing 3 years ago. That's some time. People change. Especially people in a really fucked up situation, let alone being that young and impressionable. Clem is still the Clem I loved in the first season. She's just affected and with good reason. Bravo Telltale.