I'm the same way! I even go as far as trying very hard to avoid seeing the faces of the people who voice act my favorite characters. I hope to… more never see who voice acts Clem, Lee, Kenny, and many others just because I would know it's all fake, not to say I don't already know it's all fake, but you know. Props to the actors though.
the stitching was a life or death situation, she knew it to be so, she suffered greatly but kept on... I think anyone of us would've toughened up, or have to, in such a moment.
She's living in a world where it doesn't care if you're 11 years old, adapt or die.
Give the girl and writers a little credit, it wasn't overly surreal.
Humans yes, Dogs not so much.
Disagree, there's a big difference in animals then there is humans.
I.e Animals kill other Animals for food, us Humans kill for greed.
not really, situations like this happen more often than you would really think
in both animals and humans..
different stimuli and all that. not all animals function the same way as others, even in the same species, just like humans
I don't know exactly what part of "Clem is badass" you can't seem to comprehend, but just remember that Clem has seen all kinds of stuff (gruesome deaths), done all kinds of stuff (killed multiple walkers and a living person), and been taught all kinds of stuff(shooting a gun, stitching cuts, etc.). Now would you please just.. deal with it?
Lee was there, she'd have obviously went looking for something to cover her cut on her own if he wasn't there. It's just that having older people around you as a child makes life easier.
Yes she have combat experience, but how did she become that great at living in that world? Christa had to be awesome, really awesome for clem… more to learn so much in the 16 months we didn't see for Clem to have the heart to heal her own nasty bite. Remember when Lee had to heal her little booboo for her when she said "my finger" in the drug store?
Guess you weren't ever pissed of people in your puberty, huh? lol
Well, don't blame us for the probability that you always had your parents to defend you.
No excessive offense, but it's different under other circumstances.. like where I personally were once in.
A skinny little girl would not be able to push a adult and all the dead weight away.
Unless they did insane and I mean insane leg workouts.
Just wouldn't happen
There's no "better way" to it. It's a zombie goddamn-world-overruning apocalypse. What would you expect?
Most of the walkers she's been going up against have been decaying in open air since the beginning of the apocalypse.
And those bandits she's encountered KNEW she was a little girl. damn.
I wonder how much you weigh.. or how regularly strong you are in terms of average standards, not only yours.
Probably "there's-a-small-chance-for-you-to-survive-the-twd-universe lbs". smh
Sometimes, you've got to consider other people's abilities...
And when a cast of adults treats a 10-year-old girl like she's John McClane simply as an excuse to justify the "thriller" plot, it sets off bullshit detectors in a way that the existence of zombies does not.
Except they didn't treat her like "John McClane". They treated her like someone who might have an involvement with an actual "John McClane", if you will, in the form of this Carver fellow. Kids have been used by adults to sabotage other people in times of war, after all, and this is the end of the world and Carver sounds pretty frightening. The only ones who don't trust her at this point are Carlos and Rebecca, Carlos because she exhibited a surprising drive and skill of sneaking around and stealing their supplies, and Rebecca because she still suspects her... and is kind of a bitch. Honestly, I thought the way the adults acted in this episode was miles more realistic than the way Larry acted in episode 1 of the first season with Duck possibly being bitten. It was basically the same issue, a child with a possible walker bite who would be a threat once they turned, as well as dealing with their own internal issues as a somewhat dysfunctional group. Larry's case was way more of a "make the character stupid and unreasonable for the sake of drama" case, even if it can still kind of be justified by the fact that the walkers were still a new threat.
Also, people keep saying that the episode (and presumably the season) is all about Clem trying to survive. Well, this would be fine, except for the fact that because she's now the protagonist (again, who by the end is John McClane), we KNOW she will survive. (And if she does die, it's only temporary while we get another shot.) Hell, her picture is in the promo image for episode 4, so we know she makes it that far. It's not exactly a nail-biter issue at this point.
I think you're taking "survive" a bit too literally. For example, the image for the fourth episode has people really interested because it's a pretty haunting image of dark figures and Clem running warpaint/blood on her face. We're not interested in this season because we're wondering if Clem will live or die. We're interested because we want to see what her struggle for survival will entail and what she must do, and who will influence her, all of which are components in season 1, doing the "hard thing" to survive, trying to make the group work, and so on.
People can say all they want about how it's "realistic" for someone to be emotionally remote and distant in her position, but that's not compelling storytelling.
Says who? What god of writing came down from the heavens and decided this? See, here I thought that what makes a story compelling is the writer's ability to make something compelling out of what they have. You seem to just brush off this concept or trope as non-compelling as if it's an established rule, which is far from the truth. In Clementine's case, I find her very compelling now because of a mix of coldness towards people who she doesn't trust, but also a childlike innocence that comes in every now and again, like when she's talking to and playing with Sam, when she can't bring herself to dispose of Lee's picture, or when she talks about her experiences with Luke. Clem hasn't become some one-note character. Far from it, actually.
This feels a bit of a strawman argument. Zombies themselves are not why people enjoyed season one. Zombies are a cliche in popular culture b… morey this point. Like in most genre stories, they're merely the fantasy trope that lead the audience to what they really care about. It's the relationships between the characters and how they project their emotions upon the audience and the consistent writing that made people enjoy season one. And when you have characters with no consistency (the entire cast set up as pawns of an "idiot plot," their intelligence levels fluctuating wildly to justify the story the writers pre-determined) nor any motivations that resonate with the audience--then things get real boring, real fast. Stories (at least dramatic ones) are most effective when they have some ring of truth to them in the way the characters behave. (This is the most important thing in all drama-based stories, no matter if they're about time travel or … [view original content]
Clem puts a ton of effort into every walker she takes down, for Lee it was a matter of swing and kill. Lee ran through a crowd of them and came out with like 20 kills, with one arm. Clem is probably going to have to run whenever she fights more than 1 at a time. It's fine.
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a very very white woman voices her. Tell tale must be racist.
the stitching was a life or death situation, she knew it to be so, she suffered greatly but kept on... I think anyone of us would've toughened up, or have to, in such a moment.
She's living in a world where it doesn't care if you're 11 years old, adapt or die.
Give the girl and writers a little credit, it wasn't overly surreal.
Rage is a hell of an anaesthetic.
Of course they are racist.
I mean by Michoneisclem's idea of racism, just bringing up race is being racist.
Humans yes, Dogs not so much.
Disagree, there's a big difference in animals then there is humans.
I.e Animals kill other Animals for food, us Humans kill for greed.
I don't know exactly what part of "Clem is badass" you can't seem to comprehend, but just remember that Clem has seen all kinds of stuff (gruesome deaths), done all kinds of stuff (killed multiple walkers and a living person), and been taught all kinds of stuff(shooting a gun, stitching cuts, etc.). Now would you please just.. deal with it?
Lee was there, she'd have obviously went looking for something to cover her cut on her own if he wasn't there. It's just that having older people around you as a child makes life easier.
Guess you weren't ever pissed of people in your puberty, huh? lol
Well, don't blame us for the probability that you always had your parents to defend you.
No excessive offense, but it's different under other circumstances.. like where I personally were once in.
There's no "better way" to it. It's a zombie goddamn-world-overruning apocalypse. What would you expect?
Most of the walkers she's been going up against have been decaying in open air since the beginning of the apocalypse.
And those bandits she's encountered KNEW she was a little girl. damn.
I wonder how much you weigh.. or how regularly strong you are in terms of average standards, not only yours.
Probably "there's-a-small-chance-for-you-to-survive-the-twd-universe lbs". smh
Sometimes, you've got to consider other people's abilities...
She's human. Deal with it, races don't exist. -_-
Just saying...
Except they didn't treat her like "John McClane". They treated her like someone who might have an involvement with an actual "John McClane", if you will, in the form of this Carver fellow. Kids have been used by adults to sabotage other people in times of war, after all, and this is the end of the world and Carver sounds pretty frightening. The only ones who don't trust her at this point are Carlos and Rebecca, Carlos because she exhibited a surprising drive and skill of sneaking around and stealing their supplies, and Rebecca because she still suspects her... and is kind of a bitch. Honestly, I thought the way the adults acted in this episode was miles more realistic than the way Larry acted in episode 1 of the first season with Duck possibly being bitten. It was basically the same issue, a child with a possible walker bite who would be a threat once they turned, as well as dealing with their own internal issues as a somewhat dysfunctional group. Larry's case was way more of a "make the character stupid and unreasonable for the sake of drama" case, even if it can still kind of be justified by the fact that the walkers were still a new threat.
I think you're taking "survive" a bit too literally. For example, the image for the fourth episode has people really interested because it's a pretty haunting image of dark figures and Clem running warpaint/blood on her face. We're not interested in this season because we're wondering if Clem will live or die. We're interested because we want to see what her struggle for survival will entail and what she must do, and who will influence her, all of which are components in season 1, doing the "hard thing" to survive, trying to make the group work, and so on.
Says who? What god of writing came down from the heavens and decided this? See, here I thought that what makes a story compelling is the writer's ability to make something compelling out of what they have. You seem to just brush off this concept or trope as non-compelling as if it's an established rule, which is far from the truth. In Clementine's case, I find her very compelling now because of a mix of coldness towards people who she doesn't trust, but also a childlike innocence that comes in every now and again, like when she's talking to and playing with Sam, when she can't bring herself to dispose of Lee's picture, or when she talks about her experiences with Luke. Clem hasn't become some one-note character. Far from it, actually.
Clem puts a ton of effort into every walker she takes down, for Lee it was a matter of swing and kill. Lee ran through a crowd of them and came out with like 20 kills, with one arm. Clem is probably going to have to run whenever she fights more than 1 at a time. It's fine.
It's a video game, not real life. Can we just enjoy it without nitpicking?
It's always the little things that hurt the experience.
Jon Jones > Clementine > Rotting Dead Corpses.
You'll just have to deal with it.
Yeah, why can't they just ignore it and just be happy about the game