Wow, ITV are really pulling the punches tonight. They have a football match on that will clash with the first 20 minutes of doctor who, and then the finals to "Britains got Talent" which will clash with the rest! Unfortunately I have family members which want to watch both, So I shall have to be confined to the iplayer! Here's hoping the internet signal stays good...
Also, River song = a slitheen. You've seen it here first.
Actually, I have a very odd feeling that she'll be
a future incarnation of the doctor. Hence why she had the sonic screwdriver. Hence why she knew his name. That would be intriguing. And the fact he can change gender would indeed be a gamechanging cliffhanger.
Actually, I have a very odd feeling that she'll be
a future incarnation of the doctor. Hence why she had the sonic screwdriver. Hence why she knew his name. That would be intriguing. And the fact he can change gender would indeed be a gamechanging cliffhanger.
I have high hopes for this "game-changing cliffhanger". Actually I thought last week's episode was the last one before the mid-series break - as if that ending wasn't cliffhanger enough!
Stunning visuals in this episode. The shots of things exploding in space behind Rory is probably one of my favourite images of the current series. I look forward to seeing someone screencap that on Gallifrey One tomorrow ('cause it'll be too busy today).
River Song identity was kinda predictable once they said Melody Pond and the forrest chick the only water in the forrest being a River made it obvious before the reveal also it wasnt as much of a cliffhanger as the last episode.
Well, the revelations and the ending of that episode were good but thought the rest was pretty boring... interesting to see who the
eye-patch woman will be
but this episode seemed more like filler than a finale...
It feels like to me If the series wasn't broken up this ep would be more like a penultimate episode to the finale.
I loved
Melody's take that to The Doctor about how much hes changed since The First Doctor and how dangerous he is. And how we have the word Doctor from him not the other way round.
Sort of saw it coming, especially with all the heavy hints they kept dropping during the entire episode. Pretty fun episode, but somehow not as exciting as I had expected. Possibly just because we've recently been spoiled with some episodes that showed Doctor Who at it's very best (the opening two-parter and especially The Doctor's Wife).
I wish they gave us a bit more of a hint where things might be going when Doctor Who returns. Right now the biggest questions seem to be
why 80s scifi-lady wants to create a weapon against the Doctor, and how and why Melody/River ends up with the Silents. And why River didn't remember anything about it during those episodes (possibly a side-effect of being amidst Silents for all those years.) We also still don't know who River killed (best man she ever knew). My money's on Rory. Maybe he's supposed to be dead because of the events of The Hungry Earth and sort of returning to life in Pandorica Opens, and that's why the universe keeps killing him (and bringing him back). Can't think of anyone River would hold in higher esteem than Rory or the Doctor.
Oh, and we don't know why River is a timelady. I think it's a bit more complicated than being conceived in the
Tardis. They also made a point that 80s scifi-lady was able to project Flesh-Amy into the TARDIS. And don't forget that 80s scifi-lady can be seen in Victory of the Daleks, suggesting she's able to travel through time. Maybe there are more Timelords/ladies somewhere? Maybe 80s scifi-lady is one? Maybe she's...the....Rani?
Without a doubt the best thing about this episode: the title of the next episode that popped up at the end:
Let's Kill Hitler. Very 'Abe Lincoln Must Die'
EDIT: Wait, wait, wait, wait. I was discussing this episode with the people I just watched it with, and we realized something. Doesn't the identity of River mean that
the ending of Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead is pretty weird? We saw that Melody/River can regenerate, so why didn't she in Forest of the Dead? Maybe just because she's only part Timelady?
Oh, and it's going to be extremely weird when the Doctor has to interact with child-River in the future. Just...man.
And don't forget that 80s scifi-lady can be seen in Victory of the Daleks, suggesting she's able to travel through time. Maybe there are more Timelords/ladies somewhere? Maybe 80s scifi-lady is one? Maybe she's...the....Rani?
When was that? Don't remember that happening at all...
We also still don't know who River killed (best man she ever knew). My money's on Rory. Maybe he's supposed to be dead because of the events of The Hungry Earth and sort of returning to life in Pandorica Opens, and that's why the universe keeps killing him (and bringing him back). Can't think of anyone River would hold in higher esteem than Rory or the Doctor.
If/when Rory is faced with a life of immortality without Amy, I can imagine him wanting to die. River might help him do that.
Sort of saw it coming, especially with all the heavy hints they kept dropping during the entire episode. Pretty fun episode, but somehow not as exciting as I had expected. Possibly just because we've recently been spoiled with some episodes that showed Doctor Who at it's very best (the opening two-parter and especially The Doctor's Wife).
I wish they gave us a bit more of a hint where things might be going when Doctor Who returns. Right now the biggest questions seem to be
why 80s scifi-lady wants to create a weapon against the Doctor, and how and why Melody/River ends up with the Silents. And why River didn't remember anything about it during those episodes (possibly a side-effect of being amidst Silents for all those years.) We also still don't know who River killed (best man she ever knew). My money's on Rory. Maybe he's supposed to be dead because of the events of The Hungry Earth and sort of returning to life in Pandorica Opens, and that's why the universe keeps killing him (and bringing him back). Can't think of anyone River would hold in higher esteem than Rory or the Doctor.
Oh, and we don't know why River is a timelady. I think it's a bit more complicated than being conceived in the
Tardis. They also made a point that 80s scifi-lady was able to project Flesh-Amy into the TARDIS. And don't forget that 80s scifi-lady can be seen in Victory of the Daleks, suggesting she's able to travel through time. Maybe there are more Timelords/ladies somewhere? Maybe 80s scifi-lady is one? Maybe she's...the....Rani?
Without a doubt the best thing about this episode: the title of the next episode that popped up at the end:
Let's Kill Hitler. Very 'Abe Lincoln Must Die'
EDIT: Wait, wait, wait, wait. I was discussing this episode with the people I just watched it with, and we realized something. Doesn't the identity of River mean that
the ending of Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead is pretty weird? We saw that Melody/River can regenerate, so why didn't she in Forest of the Dead? Maybe just because she's only part Timelady?
Oh, and it's going to be extremely weird when the Doctor has to interact with child-River in the future. Just...man.
Nope. If you go back and watch those episodes again, the very reason she died was because she knocked the doctor out so that he wouldn't do it, as he wouldn't have been able to regenerate either.
I'm a tad disapointed with the reveal personally.
Many people guessed it a while back. And for a moment It felt like she was really the doctor, right up until she showed Amy the note-thing.
I'm more disapointed with the title of episode 8. WTF. That's all I have to say to THAT!
As for the episode, good on a whole, but I'm not sure if it felt things were all running too fast.
It was a bit of a monster Mash-up again, but it was nice to see the headless monks (who were mentioned in Time of the Angels).
Melody Pond instead of River Song with out a spoiler tag.
Compromise. Lets call her "THAT woman" from now on.
I've also just realised that river song is almost like a translation error from melody pond. (I knew the pond-> river part, but I didn't see the Melody-> Song part)
It wasnt a game changing one in my mind and it was bult up soo much it failed to meet the expectations but if you take all the hype out it was a great clifffhanger
The name on the side of the Crib wouldn't be song, right? I don't understand why it would say that. My logical assumption was the crib said Doctor (it is his after all) and that River was the Doctor. Truthfully, I'd rather it have been that.
Also: I tried listening to The Four Doctors (they said I can keep it). I got around 45 minutes in and then had to stop. It was really, really boring. All the Doctors were apart, the plot was nonsensical and overcomplicated, the Doctor was not the main character, the Daleks feel out of place, and the actual main character is this bizarre antihero I don't care for. I'm pretty glad I didn't buy a subscription just for this.
Melody's life has been ruinied by The Doctor her DNA has been changed she was sepreated from her parents kidnaped by the Silence put in jail (which to be fair may as well just be her house) in a werid timey wimey relationship with The Doctor and dies when The only man she loves mets her for the first time.
I thought it was so blatant and obvious that it had to be a Red Herring.
So, The Doctor is now
100% feared
throughout
the galaxy
, I believe. That was Moffat's goal with this episode. He said
the Doctor
will
lose fame
in this episode, and by that I believe he meant it was
replaced with infamy
. So, he has to do the
one thing
to
prove
he is
not a bad person
:
Murder Hitler.
So his plan to prove hes not a
all powerful god who must be feared he is going to change a fixed point in time and established history by taking the law into his own hands and removing a dictator who has a army at his command?
all powerful god who must be feared he is going to change a fixed point in time and established history by taking the law into his own hands and removing a dictator who has a army at his command?
say Hi though.
Also, it's just a large rumor that the
Drahvins
are returning.
They were mentioned in The Pandorica Opens, have recieved a page on the official Doctor Who site, and it would fit with the Nazi Germany theme (they all have blond hair and must be tall).
The current lookout for the rest of the season looks like this
Episode Eight - Let's Kill Hitler - Steven Moffat -(Allegedly Doctor-Lite. Possible Drahvins. River features.)
Episode Nine - What are Little Boys Made Of? - Mark Gatiss - (Something about Little Boys and a House.)
Episode Ten - The Green Anchor - Tom MacRae - (We literally know nothing about this episode. It was filmed entirely indoors, and the monster is apparently called 'handbots')
Episode Eleven - The God Complex - Toby Whithouse - (David Walliams is in it. Set in a hotel. Seems to be wacky.)
Episode Twelve - Untitled - Gareth Roberts - (Sequel to the Lodger. Craig and Sophie return, with Baby in tow. Cybermen are baddies.
And the spoilers for Episode Thirteen (seperate in case you want intense secrecy:
Episode Thirteen - Untitled - Steven Moffat (
River returns. Winston Churchill is Holy Roman Emperor in 2011 whilst riding a Wooly Mammoth. Alternate timelines being erased/created is explored. There is a scene filmed in Utah for this episode. The Silence Reappears. Amy and Rory are probably leaving.
Also, I keep watching the big scene and every time
the Doctor asks how he looks
it makes me smile. Still wish River was
a future doctor. She could still be. Timey Wimey.
Also; here's an idea that popped in my head: What if River is Kovarian as well?
Comments
Best ending ever.
Also, River song = a slitheen. You've seen it here first.
Actually, I have a very odd feeling that she'll be
May I just remind you of this and say :eek:
I have high hopes for this "game-changing cliffhanger". Actually I thought last week's episode was the last one before the mid-series break - as if that ending wasn't cliffhanger enough!
...right?
Stunning visuals in this episode. The shots of things exploding in space behind Rory is probably one of my favourite images of the current series. I look forward to seeing someone screencap that on Gallifrey One tomorrow ('cause it'll be too busy today).
It feels like to me If the series wasn't broken up this ep would be more like a penultimate episode to the finale.
I loved
I wish they gave us a bit more of a hint where things might be going when Doctor Who returns. Right now the biggest questions seem to be
Oh, and we don't know why River is a timelady. I think it's a bit more complicated than being conceived in the
Tardis. They also made a point that 80s scifi-lady was able to project Flesh-Amy into the TARDIS. And don't forget that 80s scifi-lady can be seen in Victory of the Daleks, suggesting she's able to travel through time. Maybe there are more Timelords/ladies somewhere? Maybe 80s scifi-lady is one? Maybe she's...the....Rani?
Without a doubt the best thing about this episode: the title of the next episode that popped up at the end:
EDIT: Wait, wait, wait, wait. I was discussing this episode with the people I just watched it with, and we realized something. Doesn't the identity of River mean that
Oh, and it's going to be extremely weird when the Doctor has to interact with child-River in the future. Just...man.
When was that? Don't remember that happening at all...
I'm a tad disapointed with the reveal personally.
I'm more disapointed with the title of episode 8. WTF. That's all I have to say to THAT!
As for the episode, good on a whole, but I'm not sure if it felt things were all running too fast.
Compromise. Lets call her "THAT woman" from now on.
Must...resist...must...resist...
From this topic, a couple of pages back (can't claim I found this out by myself, sadly):
Ribs was closest on the last page.
I posted that.
That just raises further questions!
That freaks me the hell out!
Also: I tried listening to The Four Doctors (they said I can keep it). I got around 45 minutes in and then had to stop. It was really, really boring. All the Doctors were apart, the plot was nonsensical and overcomplicated, the Doctor was not the main character, the Daleks feel out of place, and the actual main character is this bizarre antihero I don't care for. I'm pretty glad I didn't buy a subscription just for this.
I am so stupid.
Heh,
So,
So his plan to prove hes not a
I saw a great theory as to the
And there are
So much for no
No, the
Also, it's just a large rumor that the
The current lookout for the rest of the season looks like this
Episode Nine - What are Little Boys Made Of? - Mark Gatiss - (Something about Little Boys and a House.)
Episode Ten - The Green Anchor - Tom MacRae - (We literally know nothing about this episode. It was filmed entirely indoors, and the monster is apparently called 'handbots')
Episode Eleven - The God Complex - Toby Whithouse - (David Walliams is in it. Set in a hotel. Seems to be wacky.)
Episode Twelve - Untitled - Gareth Roberts - (Sequel to the Lodger. Craig and Sophie return, with Baby in tow. Cybermen are baddies.
Episode Thirteen - Untitled - Steven Moffat (
Also, I keep watching the big scene and every time
Also; here's an idea that popped in my head: What if River is Kovarian as well?
On a somewhat maybe related note: I made a few poster things for a contest thing: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/13497241/1/daleksaga?h=9463c7
Also: Dashing, seeing how you view adventure games, you must be the most avid fan of the Doctor Who ones, right? Truly classics in a digital age.
Sorry but the woman on the left is definitely NOT Frances Barber who plays Madame Kovarian. On a related note, a check on Wikipedia reveals that