Moffat has, however, succesfully created a character that people will 'The new companion is River regenerated!' to. Because we've seen the last river and the first one, but not the in between ones.
I just finished the space museum arc and I have a question about the doctor changing history...
It's said very clearly in the aztecs arc that the travelers cannot change history, the doctor further explains to vicki in the romans arc that even if he hadn't given nero the idea of burning rome, he would have gotten the idea anyways, from another source...
So I was wondering, during the future arcs, where they're on alien planets, or on the future earth, aren't they technically changing history? When they help the menoptra fight the zarbi, or when they help the xerons defeat the Moroks... heck in the space museum arc the xerons literally tell vicki that if they hadn't helped fight the moroks they would never have defeated them... doesn't that change history, even if it isn't the travelers history?
Even the dalek invasion of earth was messed up, are you seriously going to tell me the rebels would have beaten the daleks without the help of the doctor or his companions? The daleks were so close to hitting the core of the earth, and the humans were still fiddling around with their little acid bomb that didn't work...
It's like the writers of the show didn't even realize that the future episodes were history, even if they were only history to people in the distant future, except that can't be true, espeially since vicki specifically mentions learning about the dalek invasion of earth in her history books...
xDD maybe i'm just overanalyzing this, maybe it would have all worked out without the doctor and his friends, but it's still something I've been thinking about for half of season 2 =D
I just finished the space museum arc and I have a question about the doctor changing history...
It's said very clearly in the aztecs arc that the travelers cannot change history, the doctor further explains to vicki in the romans arc that even if he hadn't given nero the idea of burning rome, he would have gotten the idea anyways, from another source...
So I was wondering, during the future arcs, where they're on alien planets, or on the future earth, aren't they technically changing history? When they help the menoptra fight the zarbi, or when they help the xerons defeat the Moroks... heck in the space museum arc the xerons literally tell vicki that if they hadn't helped fight the moroks they would never have defeated them... doesn't that change history, even if it isn't the travelers history?
Even the dalek invasion of earth was messed up, are you seriously going to tell me the rebels would have beaten the daleks without the help of the doctor or his companions? The daleks were so close to hitting the core of the earth, and the humans were still fiddling around with their little acid bomb that didn't work...
It's like the writers of the show didn't even realize that the future episodes were history, even if they were only history to people in the distant future, except that can't be true, espeially since vicki specifically mentions learning about the dalek invasion of earth in her history books...
xDD maybe i'm just overanalyzing this, maybe it would have all worked out without the doctor and his friends, but it's still something I've been thinking about for half of season 2 =D
I just finished the space museum arc and I have a question about the doctor changing history...
It seems that the rules about time travel have loosened since the Time War. A few major events are still "fixed" in time(the 2057 Mars incident, the Time War itself), but time seems to be "in flux" and changeable a great deal more in the post-2005 series. The Doctor seems to have a pretty good handle on what events are so important that they can't be altered, though. It seems that saving things is more okay when other time travelers are involved, and it seems the "intended" line of events is very nice to humans for some reason.
When it comes to the example in The Aztecs, that's quite easily explained. The Doctor knows that Barbara cannot change the very nature of an entire culture, and is attempting to convince her not to try by telling her that history will always happen the way it's been recorded.
When it comes to other events in history being changed... wibbly wobbly, timey wimey.
It seems that the rules about time travel have loosened since the Time War. A few major events are still "fixed" in time(the 2057 Mars incident, the Time War itself), but time seems to be "in flux" and changeable a great deal more in the post-2005 series. The Doctor seems to have a pretty good handle on what events are so important that they can't be altered, though. It seems that saving things is more okay when other time travelers are involved, and it seems the "intended" line of events is very nice to humans for some reason.
You know, the guy above hasn't watched the new series at all and was basing it on the early Hartnells, so maybe saying things like The Time War is a bit much.
Here's my interpretation of it: The Time Lords were not Time Lords at a point. The universe existed before the Time Lords as well, but when the Time Lords were first created that was The Definitive Universe. Now, the Time Lords have a specific rule to not interfere. However, the Doctor knows he can hop from planet to planet and make sure this alien menace doesn't get away because in the long run it doesn't change the basic timeline. However, there are moments (say for example, the French Revolution, seeing as that was in season one) where time has to go one way. The Doctor cannot change the outcome of these key moments, no matter how much he wants, or else he would completely change the time stream, to the point where it would turn into a paradox because perhaps the fact that that one movement did not occur led to the Time lords never existing. It's really complicated, in any way, and the new showrunner has a much easier philosophy to follow: It's Timey-Wimey spacey-wacey stuff.
Bunches of tiny mid-sentence spoilers just makes your posts annoying to read, guys.
Huge spoiler blocks are where it's at.
Spoilers for "A Good Man Goes To War" and the couple episodes before that:
I was a bit disappointed that River's identity was exactly what I thought it'd be. I was hoping they'd come up with an answer that would surprise me.
Also, this is the second episode in a row to end in a "game-changing cliffhanger" that, at least for me, loses a bit of thunder due to the minute or so of build-up before it. I didn't see the "Amy is fake" thing coming through the whole Almost People story, until the Doctor started talking and talking about it. I just think they could have cut that down a bit to make the actual zap-sploosh bit somewhat more shocking. Same thing this episode with River's identity: through all her talking, there's really only one way it could go. Her conversation with the Doctor was reasonably ambiguous and left me guessing for a minute, but I think her conversation with Amy should have had the reveal first and then the explanation, since putting the explanation first spoiled the reveal.
In fact, using that prop with Melody's name sewn into it, you could have had the doctor figure it out, and gleefully declare that everything is okay, while Amy is freaking out, and then have Amy start to read it as the (dying?) Lorna explains the words she chose... And just as Amy starts to understand, then River shows up. Of course really, it doesn't matter quite what order they reveal it in, since the basic premise of "episode about saving Amy's baby" and "episode where we find out who River is" being the same episode kind of spoiled itself for the most part.
Also, random thought here, spoilers for the Almost People storyline and major spoilers for the Silence in the Library story if you missed that one:
The Flesh is usually used to create avatars of living people who control them in real-time, whether or not they're aware of that. But in the Rebel Flesh story we see that data input into the Flesh can create doppelgangers that function independently even after the original person dies. The Doctor even says something to the effect of the Tardis is able to stabilize these gangers to the point where they're effectively human.
And...
River "dies" in the Library story, but thanks to the neural relay and the virtual computer world, her consciousness is saved forever.
Soo...
If he really felt like it, the Doctor could probably "save" River by going back to the library and using the neural relay system to take her back out of the computer and create a Flesh version of her, and then make that being human.
Granted, I don't particularly expect them to follow up on that because A) they could have brought her back as an Auton or something earlier if they really felt like it and the series doesn't usually pull elements that specific from episodes that were that long ago and C) since we know the doctor can meet her again and again at different points in her timeline, bringing her "dead" self back wouldn't serve much narrative purpose other than to give her an opportunity to die again, which wouldn't be much fun
But still, I wonder what might happen if Amy gets a hold of either the Doctor's or River's blue notebook, now that she knows. I imagine she won't be very happy if she knows that the Doctor knows how River dies, so she might force him to revisit that.
Peter Darvil-Evans, the editor of the Dr Who novels in teh 1990s, argued that the Time Lords were the first civilisation in the universe. Therefore, everything after their time period is the future, and is therefore up-for-grabs UNLESS somebody has already been there and 'crystalised' it. So, since the Doctor has been to Earth in the year 3000, he can't change anything in the year 2000. But if he's never been to Planet X, he has a free hand.
I also don't get the non-interference policy. They killed the second doctor for it, and almost killed sixie for it, yet he seemed to do it all the time!
I also don't get the non-interference policy. They killed the second doctor for it, and almost killed sixie for it, yet he seemed to do it all the time!
They where politically motivated rather then leveling justice. The sixth doctor's one was to cover up why they moved
earth
they covered it up really well cos I have no idea why they did it.
They where politically motivated rather then leveling justice. The sixth doctor's one was to cover up why they moved
earth
they covered it up really well cos I have no idea why they did it.
The funny thing is they moved it literally nowhere. They moved it to somewhere barely different. It's like the Time Lords accidentally nudged it just a little bit. From TV Tropes: Sci-Fi Writers Have no Sense of Scale - Probably the most spectacular example in is in this story, where Earth was apparently hidden by moving its entire solar system several million miles, which is the celestial equivalent of hiding from your date in an empty movie theater by leaning an inch to the left. For scale, Mercury never comes within 28 million miles of our Sun, despite being its closest planet.
Also, I didn't intend to but I listened to most of the Marian Conspiracy. It's really quite good.
Also: The mysterious astronaut from Puzzle Agent has new significance thanks to Doctor Who.
Wow. I just had to post this. (A good man goes to war minor spoilers)
It seems Moffat was an avid fan back in the 90's and participated in online discussions. Here's him talking about what became a plot detail on saturday's episode.
So that awesome speech of River's was 16 years in the making.
The Doctor's name. However, River could read it, which means she's a time lord, and she said she hadn't seen it in a long time, in what may have been hundreds of years since she was a baby inside it. It was sort of simple. This also rectifies the whole how she knows his name thing. Unless the Doctor's real name is sweetie.
Wow. I just had to post this. (A good man goes to war minor spoilers)
It seems Moffat was an avid fan back in the 90's and participated in online discussions. Here's him talking about what became a plot detail on saturday's episode.
So that awesome speech of River's was 16 years in the making.
It's the little things like this that make me love Doctor Who so much.
The funny thing is they moved it literally nowhere. They moved it to somewhere barely different. It's like the Time Lords accidentally nudged it just a little bit. From TV Tropes: Sci-Fi Writers Have no Sense of Scale - Probably the most spectacular example in is in this story, where Earth was apparently hidden by moving its entire solar system several million miles, which is the celestial equivalent of hiding from your date in an empty movie theater by leaning an inch to the left. For scale, Mercury never comes within 28 million miles of our Sun, despite being its closest planet.
As far as I could tell some evil or good person stole Time Lord secrets then went to Earth to hide. And the Time Lords decided the best action would be to move the Earth cos that will be bound to kill him. At lest that's what I think they did it for. Which would make it the ultimate braking a nut with a sledgehammer moment.
I saw that earlier today, and was slightly annoyed when only Zippy was trending, not "Zippy and the daleks".
Oh yeah, Manchester is getting an interactive doctor who experience type thing for some festival. Unfortunately, there's an age limit (6-12), so the only way the majority of us would get in is to pinch someone's kids!
I listened to "The marian conspiracy" today, and it's pretty awesome. Or at least it would have been if my ipod had synced all of Part four, instead of missing the first 8 minutes!
I saw that earlier today, and was slightly annoyed when only Zippy was trending, not "Zippy and the daleks".
Oh yeah, Manchester is getting an interactive doctor who experience type thing for some festival. Unfortunately, there's an age limit (6-12), so the only way the majority of us would get in is to pinch someone's kids!
I listened to "The marian conspiracy" today, and it's pretty awesome. Or at least it would have been if my ipod had synced all of Part four, instead of missing the first 8 minutes!
Ah, that's a shame. I quite liked the ending of Episode Three, it's a well-done cliffhanger that isn't OH GOD HES GOING OT KILL THE DOCTOR like 90% of classic cliffhangers are.
I also listened to the Spectre of Lanyon Moor. It was really, really unsettling. Especially what happens to one person in the final episode. Urgh. It's also a lot like Puzzle Agent, what with the evil gnomes running around seemingly killing people.
And, I started and listened to half of Primeval (the Traken one). It has a very Davison-era feel, which is nice, but I really do not care for the majority of the Davison era based on what I've seen and it's not Traken enough to make it feel like a sequel to the original story (which is probably my favorite classic story I've seen, now that I'm thinking about it). Nonetheless, I'm excited for the Six story being done for the Lost Stories next year that's a sequel, because it's by the original writer, despite it being done in the evil 2x45 format.
And did I comment on the Third McCoy lost story? It was really okay. Andrew Cartmel is good at the dialogue, but all his monsters seem too designed for audio to seem like true Lost Stories.
Also: it is really annoying when BF doesn't label downloads with proper titles ie 1a,1b, or Part One, Track 01 and so on. I'm trying to find the timings for Neverland but dear lord the chapter names are spoilery.
Double also: It's a two parter for no real reason. Boo!
Triple Also: Finished Primeval. That was really, really, really good. The conclusion is like a happier version of Spare Parts' big shocking revelation, based on what I've heard about that story. It made me like Five again, something I haven't felt truly and sincerely since I saw Earthshock nearly nine months ago. Bravo!
Quadruple also: BBC America says the series will be back starting the 3rd of September and ending the Eighth of October, followed by SJAs in November and the Special in December. Yay? Interestingly, Episode Ten will be airing on a Monday according to this schedule, which may be a typo.
Quintuple also (wowee): They confirmed that The Talons of Weng-Chiang is coming to North America as our Special Edition re-release for the year. If it sells well enough, we'll get the other eight (we already have the movie).
In Genesis of the Daleks a badly dressed Time Lord said that The Time Lords envisage a time when the Daleks will be the supreme power in the Universe. And then sets him on his task of stopping them before there created. Does this mean there's still going to be a time when Daleks are the supreme power over all life forms like the Time Lords predicted?
In Genesis of the Daleks a badly dressed Time Lord said that The Time Lords envisage a time when the Daleks will be the supreme power in the Universe. And then sets him on his task of stopping them before there created. Does this mean there's still going to be a time when Daleks are the supreme power over all life forms like the Time Lords predicted?
Or The Time Lords lie, much like River and the Doctor.
Also: I'm considering listening to Master next. It seems like a really good concept. It's like the basic concept of Human Nature, but with the Master. So it's this innocent man finding out he is pure evil and has killed tons of people. Fun fun fun fun.
In Genesis of the Daleks a badly dressed Time Lord said that The Time Lords envisage a time when the Daleks will be the supreme power in the Universe. And then sets him on his task of stopping them before there created. Does this mean there's still going to be a time when Daleks are the supreme power over all life forms like the Time Lords predicted?
They could have been, if not for the Doctor altering the Dalek's history in Genesis. Which resulted in the Time War, and that pretty much decimated both Time Lords and Daleks.
I still hope that the Master does the whole 'A NEW BODY AT LAST' thing on the Meta Crisis Tenth Doctor, complete with cheesy effect and suddenly pitch black beard. It'd be neat. Especially if he killed Rose.
Also: I'm considering listening to Master next. It seems like a really good concept. It's like the basic concept of Human Nature, but with the Master. So it's this innocent man finding out he is pure evil and has killed tons of people. Fun fun fun fun.
Aw, cute.
I was never a fan of "Master". It just seemed to drag on. And nothing really seemed to happen. It seemed a bit like an extended version of a cluedo (that's clue to you USians), with a nice (but probably contradictory now) piece of backstory to the doctor/master.
I other news, my second audio didn't sync to my ipod properly. Parts 2/3/4 of "the spirit of Lanyon Moor" and "The Apocalypse element" were missing the start. I'm thinking my ipod just hates Colin Baker. So I listened to "The eye of the scorpion" instead, which was pretty decent. It was closer to the old type of historicals (for the first three parts anyway) where the threat was based on the people of the time, not some alien invaders.
I was never a fan of "Master". It just seemed to drag on. And nothing really seemed to happen. It seemed a bit like an extended version of a cluedo (that's clue to you USians), with a nice (but probably contradictory now) piece of backstory to the doctor/master.
I other news, my second audio didn't sync to my ipod properly. Parts 2/3/4 of "the spirit of Lanyon Moor" and "The Apocalypse element" were missing the start. I'm thinking my ipod just hates Colin Baker. So I listened to "The eye of the scorpion" instead, which was pretty decent. It was closer to the old type of historicals (for the first three parts anyway) where the threat was based on the people of the time, not some alien invaders.
Well, that's odd. I'm incredibly picky about my iPod keeping things synced, right down to naming all files in proper order (Part One, Track 01 or bust) and ensuring they're all synced.
I listened to The Chimes of Midnight. Everyone says no need to listen to Storm Warning because all you need to know
that Charley was supposed to die
, but knowing that it played a role sort of let me piece together the mystery a few minutes into part four, before we find out it's significance. And it was good. Not 'Stones of Venice' or 'Marian Conspiracy' good, though.
What program is that you're using?
I would show you my library, but it's incomplete (missing about 60%, as I haven't redownloaded and sewn together the audios I lost when My computer was wiped, including a series of EDA, and all the mcGann 1-50 releases, two davison and two colin baker releases. I'll make that a project for the weekend.). Actually, I may post it when I've finished the current batch I'm doing from today's sale.
As for the things not syncing, I'm very confused as to why/how it happened. I sew the tracks together into 4 parts, and those files were all complete. And yet when they synced to my ipod, they were missing the start. Curious. I've re-edited those ones today anyway, just to make sure. And they've synced fine.
Oh yeah, and a tip you might find useful for organisational purposes. I changed the Album Artist/composer etc details to that of the doctor in the audio (or in the case of multi-doctor audios, either what ever doctor's timeline the audio is, or whatever doctor I have the least of). That way I can filter the stories a bit.
*edit*
It still needs some work though. I may add the numbers in to re-order them, but seeing as most of them can be listened in any order, I may just make some playlists of any arcs.
Also, there's a man named colin brockhurst who made some awesome alternative covers for a few of the early covers, to bring them in line with later releases. Unfortunately his site seems to be down, so here's one of his covers.
What program is that you're using?
I would show you my library, but it's incomplete (missing about 60%, as I haven't redownloaded and sewn together the audios I lost when My computer was wiped, including a series of EDA, and all the mcGann 1-50 releases, two davison and two colin baker releases. I'll make that a project for the weekend.). Actually, I may post it when I've finished the current batch I'm doing from today's sale.
As for the things not syncing, I'm very confused as to why/how it happened. I sew the tracks together into 4 parts, and those files were all complete. And yet when they synced to my ipod, they were missing the start. Curious. I've re-edited those ones today anyway, just to make sure. And they've synced fine.
Oh yeah, and a tip you might find useful for organisational purposes. I changed the Album Artist/composer etc details to that of the doctor in the audio (or in the case of multi-doctor audios, either what ever doctor's timeline the audio is, or whatever doctor I have the least of). That way I can filter the stories a bit.
*edit*
Also, there's a man named colin brockhurst who made some awesome alternative covers for a few of the early covers, to bring them in line with later releases. Unfortunately his site seems to be down, so here's one of his covers.
I use iTunes, heh. I use the MP3s and that's in one of those views, which I use to quickly select something and then go to cover flow. And that cover is quite amazing. But there's something really nice about the covers for some of the older ones, with Seasons of Fear being a particularly great one. And I change the album title of all my things to put it in order of proper release/range, thus the Doctor Who - Number you can see above, and the Doctor Who - The Companion Chronicles. For example, Doctor Who - The Companion Chronicles 4.03: The Prisoner of Peladon. The problem with this system, however, is that the album title requires scrolling on the iPod itself if it's a long title like The Time of the Daleks is.
So I decided to pass on The Pirates, Omega, and Creatures of Beauty for no particular reason. I'm looking at picking up Ace/Hex's arc soon, but only ones with a higher rating then a 7 on time scales or the trilogy ones, so pretty much like four of them before they go to trilogies.
Using my sleuthing, I found all of the cover art guy's covers here.
Ah, I didn't know you could change the colour of the background!
I'm still debating whether or not to add numbers in, as most of the audios are stand alone, provided you know the companion. I may do what I did with the EDA's and the McGann series, and just make play-lists of individual series/arcs. That solves the problem of having to remember the order, and having to scroll to read the title. Have you set them as audiobook files, or kept them as music files? Putting them as audiobook files lets you rewind them by 30 seconds at a time (or any amount with the slider) which is handy, if someone comes and talks to you, whilst you fumble around to get it out of your pocket. Plus, it can remember your position in the audio if you stop playing it, or switch to other stuff like music.
As for the sales, I decided to miss the McCoy stuff. It's a safer bet to spend a fiver on something I'm 90% certain I'll enjoy. Instead, I bought "Omega" and "The one doctor". I'm looking forward to listening to "and the pirates", simply as it has colin singing.
Ah, I didn't know you could change the colour of the background!
I'm still debating whether or not to add numbers in, as most of the audios are stand alone, provided you know the companion. I may do what I did with the EDA's and the McGann series, and just make play-lists of individual series/arcs. That solves the problem of having to remember the order, and having to scroll to read the title. Have you set them as audiobook files, or kept them as music files? Putting them as audiobook files lets you rewind them by 30 seconds at a time (or any amount with the slider) which is handy, if someone comes and talks to you, whilst you fumble around to get it out of your pocket. Plus, it can remember your position in the audio if you stop playing it, or switch to other stuff like music.
I prefer to keep them as regular music, partly so I don't feel so lame about having 0 music on my iPod (I BOUGHT IT TO STORE TELEVISION SHOWS). Also, I like having the individual tracks for various reasons, partly because I always rename them to match which gives me a mindless task to do whilst listening so I don't go frolicking on the internet.
Also, here's a Who fun fact: did you know that when Colin Baker was first fired in 1986 that one of John-Nathan Turner's ideas was to bring Patrick Troughton back for a season with Jamie ending with him regenerating into a woman, who would continue on until eventually turning into Jon Pertwee? Oh JNT you so silly.
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It's said very clearly in the aztecs arc that the travelers cannot change history, the doctor further explains to vicki in the romans arc that even if he hadn't given nero the idea of burning rome, he would have gotten the idea anyways, from another source...
So I was wondering, during the future arcs, where they're on alien planets, or on the future earth, aren't they technically changing history? When they help the menoptra fight the zarbi, or when they help the xerons defeat the Moroks... heck in the space museum arc the xerons literally tell vicki that if they hadn't helped fight the moroks they would never have defeated them... doesn't that change history, even if it isn't the travelers history?
Even the dalek invasion of earth was messed up, are you seriously going to tell me the rebels would have beaten the daleks without the help of the doctor or his companions? The daleks were so close to hitting the core of the earth, and the humans were still fiddling around with their little acid bomb that didn't work...
It's like the writers of the show didn't even realize that the future episodes were history, even if they were only history to people in the distant future, except that can't be true, espeially since vicki specifically mentions learning about the dalek invasion of earth in her history books...
xDD maybe i'm just overanalyzing this, maybe it would have all worked out without the doctor and his friends, but it's still something I've been thinking about for half of season 2 =D
I've always thought that too. It's best not to think about it.
When it comes to other events in history being changed... wibbly wobbly, timey wimey.
You know, the guy above hasn't watched the new series at all and was basing it on the early Hartnells, so maybe saying things like The Time War is a bit much.
Here's my interpretation of it: The Time Lords were not Time Lords at a point. The universe existed before the Time Lords as well, but when the Time Lords were first created that was The Definitive Universe. Now, the Time Lords have a specific rule to not interfere. However, the Doctor knows he can hop from planet to planet and make sure this alien menace doesn't get away because in the long run it doesn't change the basic timeline. However, there are moments (say for example, the French Revolution, seeing as that was in season one) where time has to go one way. The Doctor cannot change the outcome of these key moments, no matter how much he wants, or else he would completely change the time stream, to the point where it would turn into a paradox because perhaps the fact that that one movement did not occur led to the Time lords never existing. It's really complicated, in any way, and the new showrunner has a much easier philosophy to follow: It's Timey-Wimey spacey-wacey stuff.
I was thinking for a minute we'd get ANOTHER
Also: the only cameo that surprised me was
Also: Big Finish sale. Yay! I also chose to get the First Lost Story as well, the Nightmare Fair, for some reason.
WHAT.
That is all.
Huge spoiler blocks are where it's at.
Spoilers for "A Good Man Goes To War" and the couple episodes before that:
Also, this is the second episode in a row to end in a "game-changing cliffhanger" that, at least for me, loses a bit of thunder due to the minute or so of build-up before it. I didn't see the "Amy is fake" thing coming through the whole Almost People story, until the Doctor started talking and talking about it. I just think they could have cut that down a bit to make the actual zap-sploosh bit somewhat more shocking. Same thing this episode with River's identity: through all her talking, there's really only one way it could go. Her conversation with the Doctor was reasonably ambiguous and left me guessing for a minute, but I think her conversation with Amy should have had the reveal first and then the explanation, since putting the explanation first spoiled the reveal.
In fact, using that prop with Melody's name sewn into it, you could have had the doctor figure it out, and gleefully declare that everything is okay, while Amy is freaking out, and then have Amy start to read it as the (dying?) Lorna explains the words she chose... And just as Amy starts to understand, then River shows up. Of course really, it doesn't matter quite what order they reveal it in, since the basic premise of "episode about saving Amy's baby" and "episode where we find out who River is" being the same episode kind of spoiled itself for the most part.
Also, random thought here, spoilers for the Almost People storyline and major spoilers for the Silence in the Library story if you missed that one:
And...
River "dies" in the Library story, but thanks to the neural relay and the virtual computer world, her consciousness is saved forever.
Soo...
If he really felt like it, the Doctor could probably "save" River by going back to the library and using the neural relay system to take her back out of the computer and create a Flesh version of her, and then make that being human.
Granted, I don't particularly expect them to follow up on that because A) they could have brought her back as an Auton or something earlier if they really felt like it and
But still, I wonder what might happen if Amy gets a hold of either the Doctor's or River's blue notebook, now that she knows. I imagine she won't be very happy if she knows that the Doctor knows how River dies, so she might force him to revisit that.
Or... Maybe the River is SotL is
They where politically motivated rather then leveling justice. The sixth doctor's one was to cover up why they moved
So I wasn't the only one who was a tad confused by that series? That's good to hear! I really must rewatch that soon, and the special features.
Oh yeah, I took some screenshots from saturdays episode, for use as backgrounds.
Spoilers, Obviously.
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Bonus one from last year
The funny thing is they moved it literally nowhere. They moved it to somewhere barely different. It's like the Time Lords accidentally nudged it just a little bit. From TV Tropes: Sci-Fi Writers Have no Sense of Scale - Probably the most spectacular example in is in this story, where Earth was apparently hidden by moving its entire solar system several million miles, which is the celestial equivalent of hiding from your date in an empty movie theater by leaning an inch to the left. For scale, Mercury never comes within 28 million miles of our Sun, despite being its closest planet.
Also, I didn't intend to but I listened to most of the Marian Conspiracy. It's really quite good.
Also: The mysterious astronaut from Puzzle Agent has new significance thanks to Doctor Who.
It seems Moffat was an avid fan back in the 90's and participated in online discussions. Here's him talking about what became a plot detail on saturday's episode.
So that awesome speech of River's was 16 years in the making.
No. It had
It's the little things like this that make me love Doctor Who so much.
As far as I could tell some evil or good person stole Time Lord secrets then went to Earth to hide. And the Time Lords decided the best action would be to move the Earth cos that will be bound to kill him. At lest that's what I think they did it for. Which would make it the ultimate braking a nut with a sledgehammer moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmL-ilEBf8c&feature=player_embedded#t=260s
Oh yeah, Manchester is getting an interactive doctor who experience type thing for some festival. Unfortunately, there's an age limit (6-12), so the only way the majority of us would get in is to pinch someone's kids!
I listened to "The marian conspiracy" today, and it's pretty awesome. Or at least it would have been if my ipod had synced all of Part four, instead of missing the first 8 minutes!
Ah, that's a shame. I quite liked the ending of Episode Three, it's a well-done cliffhanger that isn't OH GOD HES GOING OT KILL THE DOCTOR like 90% of classic cliffhangers are.
I also listened to the Spectre of Lanyon Moor. It was really, really unsettling. Especially what happens to one person in the final episode. Urgh. It's also a lot like Puzzle Agent, what with the evil gnomes running around seemingly killing people.
And, I started and listened to half of Primeval (the Traken one). It has a very Davison-era feel, which is nice, but I really do not care for the majority of the Davison era based on what I've seen and it's not Traken enough to make it feel like a sequel to the original story (which is probably my favorite classic story I've seen, now that I'm thinking about it). Nonetheless, I'm excited for the Six story being done for the Lost Stories next year that's a sequel, because it's by the original writer, despite it being done in the evil 2x45 format.
And did I comment on the Third McCoy lost story? It was really okay. Andrew Cartmel is good at the dialogue, but all his monsters seem too designed for audio to seem like true Lost Stories.
Also: it is really annoying when BF doesn't label downloads with proper titles ie 1a,1b, or Part One, Track 01 and so on. I'm trying to find the timings for Neverland but dear lord the chapter names are spoilery.
Double also: It's a two parter for no real reason. Boo!
Triple Also: Finished Primeval. That was really, really, really good. The conclusion is like a happier version of Spare Parts' big shocking revelation, based on what I've heard about that story. It made me like Five again, something I haven't felt truly and sincerely since I saw Earthshock nearly nine months ago. Bravo!
Quadruple also: BBC America says the series will be back starting the 3rd of September and ending the Eighth of October, followed by SJAs in November and the Special in December. Yay? Interestingly, Episode Ten will be airing on a Monday according to this schedule, which may be a typo.
Quintuple also (wowee): They confirmed that The Talons of Weng-Chiang is coming to North America as our Special Edition re-release for the year. If it sells well enough, we'll get the other eight (we already have the movie).
Or The Time Lords lie, much like River and the Doctor.
Paul McGann's 1996 Audition Video
Also: I'm considering listening to Master next. It seems like a really good concept. It's like the basic concept of Human Nature, but with the Master. So it's this innocent man finding out he is pure evil and has killed tons of people. Fun fun fun fun.
2) That would be interfering in the Doctor's own history, which Father's Day showed is a very bad idea.
3) Stop trying to be clever. It doesn't suit you.
I'm more then just a pretty face!
Aw, cute.
I was never a fan of "Master". It just seemed to drag on. And nothing really seemed to happen. It seemed a bit like an extended version of a cluedo (that's clue to you USians), with a nice (but probably contradictory now) piece of backstory to the doctor/master.
I other news, my second audio didn't sync to my ipod properly. Parts 2/3/4 of "the spirit of Lanyon Moor" and "The Apocalypse element" were missing the start. I'm thinking my ipod just hates Colin Baker. So I listened to "The eye of the scorpion" instead, which was pretty decent. It was closer to the old type of historicals (for the first three parts anyway) where the threat was based on the people of the time, not some alien invaders.
Well, that's odd. I'm incredibly picky about my iPod keeping things synced, right down to naming all files in proper order (Part One, Track 01 or bust) and ensuring they're all synced.
I listened to The Chimes of Midnight. Everyone says no need to listen to Storm Warning because all you need to know
And, awe in my organization:
I would show you my library, but it's incomplete (missing about 60%, as I haven't redownloaded and sewn together the audios I lost when My computer was wiped, including a series of EDA, and all the mcGann 1-50 releases, two davison and two colin baker releases. I'll make that a project for the weekend.). Actually, I may post it when I've finished the current batch I'm doing from today's sale.
As for the things not syncing, I'm very confused as to why/how it happened. I sew the tracks together into 4 parts, and those files were all complete. And yet when they synced to my ipod, they were missing the start. Curious. I've re-edited those ones today anyway, just to make sure. And they've synced fine.
Oh yeah, and a tip you might find useful for organisational purposes. I changed the Album Artist/composer etc details to that of the doctor in the audio (or in the case of multi-doctor audios, either what ever doctor's timeline the audio is, or whatever doctor I have the least of). That way I can filter the stories a bit.
*edit*
It still needs some work though. I may add the numbers in to re-order them, but seeing as most of them can be listened in any order, I may just make some playlists of any arcs.
Also, there's a man named colin brockhurst who made some awesome alternative covers for a few of the early covers, to bring them in line with later releases. Unfortunately his site seems to be down, so here's one of his covers.
I use iTunes, heh. I use the MP3s and that's in one of those views, which I use to quickly select something and then go to cover flow. And that cover is quite amazing. But there's something really nice about the covers for some of the older ones, with Seasons of Fear being a particularly great one. And I change the album title of all my things to put it in order of proper release/range, thus the Doctor Who - Number you can see above, and the Doctor Who - The Companion Chronicles. For example, Doctor Who - The Companion Chronicles 4.03: The Prisoner of Peladon. The problem with this system, however, is that the album title requires scrolling on the iPod itself if it's a long title like The Time of the Daleks is.
So I decided to pass on The Pirates, Omega, and Creatures of Beauty for no particular reason. I'm looking at picking up Ace/Hex's arc soon, but only ones with a higher rating then a 7 on time scales or the trilogy ones, so pretty much like four of them before they go to trilogies.
Using my sleuthing, I found all of the cover art guy's covers here.
I'm still debating whether or not to add numbers in, as most of the audios are stand alone, provided you know the companion. I may do what I did with the EDA's and the McGann series, and just make play-lists of individual series/arcs. That solves the problem of having to remember the order, and having to scroll to read the title. Have you set them as audiobook files, or kept them as music files? Putting them as audiobook files lets you rewind them by 30 seconds at a time (or any amount with the slider) which is handy, if someone comes and talks to you, whilst you fumble around to get it out of your pocket. Plus, it can remember your position in the audio if you stop playing it, or switch to other stuff like music.
As for the sales, I decided to miss the McCoy stuff. It's a safer bet to spend a fiver on something I'm 90% certain I'll enjoy. Instead, I bought "Omega" and "The one doctor". I'm looking forward to listening to "and the pirates", simply as it has colin singing.
@Pony Bone: You met Sylvester McCoy? Where?
I prefer to keep them as regular music, partly so I don't feel so lame about having 0 music on my iPod (I BOUGHT IT TO STORE TELEVISION SHOWS). Also, I like having the individual tracks for various reasons, partly because I always rename them to match which gives me a mindless task to do whilst listening so I don't go frolicking on the internet.
Also, here's a Who fun fact: did you know that when Colin Baker was first fired in 1986 that one of John-Nathan Turner's ideas was to bring Patrick Troughton back for a season with Jamie ending with him regenerating into a woman, who would continue on until eventually turning into Jon Pertwee? Oh JNT you so silly.