the one who broke the promises was season 6b Third Doctor so almost all the Doctor's rejected him. And the secret in Silver Nemesis could be updated that way since The Other Cartmel master plan never happened (thank god).
the one who broke the promises was season 6b Third Doctor
But we see the second Doctor regenerate in "The Night Walkers", and the third Doctor drops out of the TARDIS in the second Doctor's outfit. It's not impossible that there would be a gap, but unlikely. Anyway, John Hurt doesn't look like the guy out of "Devious"
And the secret in Silver Nemesis could be updated that way since The Other Cartmel master plan never happened (thank god).
Lady Peinforte: So, I know your secret, and will reveal it all!
Doctor: Noooooooo
Lady Peinforte: You're not the seventh Doctor at all - you're the eighth!
Doctor: It's true. (sobs) Here's my bus-pass and everything. I'm so much older than I pretended to be.
Cyber-Leader: EX-CELL-ENT.
Well, yeah, I get that, but knowing RTD he'd probably turn it into a musical episode or something, and then had the other characters mention it every single chance they could.
He's not a very subtle writer, is what I'm getting at.
Well, yeah, I get that, but knowing RTD he'd probably turn it into a musical episode or something, and then had the other characters mention it every single chance they could.
He's not a very subtle writer, is what I'm getting at.
Er - why? There's a very legitimate chance every living Doctor and Companion will be persuaded to come (indeed the only one I expect to be unwilling would be Christopher Eccleston).
Honestly, as long as they hadn't made a huge deal out of it, I wouldn't have cared.
Of course, since it's RTD, they totally would have.
With it being a kids show, I don't think he would've gone in that direction. Although, with it being Luke, I could see him just dating a guy, and not realising that there is a stigma about it. And that would be the message that they would ring home. That you shouldn't have to be bothered by who you date. You just do. An idealistic world where coming out is not needed. Where if you want to, you can just date a guy (Or a girl if you want.). No worries about what people will think. That's the message he's always tried to put across with characters like Captain Jack.
Of course, This being RTD, I can see him doing some storyline revolving around some mind parasite feeding of secrets, thus making it a big deal.
As for the convention thing, I'm in two minds about it. None of my current friends like the show. Certainly not enough to fork out £80 for tickets and train fares, so I would be going alone. On the other side I will be at university then and I'm certain there will be many people in the Sci-Fi society who would go. But then it is a lot of money for a student...
Er - why? There's a very legitimate chance every living Doctor and Companion will be persuaded to come
Because I don't want to spend however-much-it-was essentially to be plunged into an episode of the ever-tedious "Doctor Who Confidential", which seems pretty much to be what's on offer. Except BBC3 never offered the chance to buy a T-Shirt, I suppose....
I highly doubt they did this on purpose. I mean, it makes little or no sense to piss off a bunch of fans who you are trying to sell something to.
As I said on youtube, this is a basic case of fans transplanting their deepest fantasy on reality and then getting upset when reality turns out to be different. It's the equivalent of getting mad at someone because you had a dream where they bought you a car and then on your birthday, they gave you a book about cars.
alcoremortis 31 minutes ago
Logically, from a business perspective, that makes little or no sense. Why would they deliberately piss off a bunch of fans to sell merchandise? This is a basic case of fans transplanting their deepest fantasy on reality and then getting upset when reality turns out to be different.
It's the equivalent of getting mad at someone because you had a dream where they bought you a car and then on your birthday, they gave you a book about cars.
TheAfroThunder1 23 minutes ago
No, no. It's more like someone said to you that they would buy cars for you and all your family/friends for your 50th birthday party, but then they bought you a DVD about cars and said you had to pay for it if you wanted it.
The question is, if they weren't intending to mislead the fans, what was with all the secrecy? Why did Peter Davisons final DVD release not get a #thefifth? Why did Colin not get #thesixth? Plus, given the thing was already announced, why on earth did we need teasers? They deliberately wanted to create false hope, because the resultant publicity would get people talking about Terror of the Zygons.
I think it's because they were releasing the final story during the fiftieth and the Fourth Doctor is one of the most popular ones?
Honestly, though, I really didn't see where the automatic connection of mentioning the Fourth Doctor to him being in the show came from. Especially given that they have repeatedly said that there weren't going to be any classic doctors in the special.
I suppose a more correct analogy would be that it's like someone talks a lot about cars right before your birthday, you have a dream that they gave you a car, and then you get pissed at them when they give you a book about cars instead. Not cruel, just a severe misunderstanding.
Er, it's pretty clearly going to be part of a box set. They wouldn't just release one slimline disc!
It'll be either "The Complete Fourth Doctor, Part One" or "The Best of the Fourth Doctor" in a set, I'm telling you.
And as the clip was uploaded by a channel owned by BBC Worldwide a trailer wouldn't appear there first for anything relating to the current programme - it'd be in direct contradiction with the BBC Charter.
the clip was uploaded by a channel owned by BBC Worldwide a trailer wouldn't appear there first for anything relating to the current programme - it'd be in direct contradiction with the BBC Charter.
It'd be a similar problem if they decided to air a new episode of Doctor Who on BBC America first - the commercial arm of the show cannot be used first. If that makes any sense. Any actual trailers or anything will be uploaded by BBC One's Youtube channel (or, in the case of An Adventure in Space and Time, BBC Two's)
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But we see the second Doctor regenerate in "The Night Walkers", and the third Doctor drops out of the TARDIS in the second Doctor's outfit. It's not impossible that there would be a gap, but unlikely. Anyway, John Hurt doesn't look like the guy out of "Devious"
Lady Peinforte: So, I know your secret, and will reveal it all!
Doctor: Noooooooo
Lady Peinforte: You're not the seventh Doctor at all - you're the eighth!
Doctor: It's true. (sobs) Here's my bus-pass and everything. I'm so much older than I pretended to be.
Cyber-Leader: EX-CELL-ENT.
Bullcrap! CBBC would never let a gay character be on there channel.
They've had gay presenters in the past though.
I would've loved to have seen all the complaints if they did go through with it.
Of course, since it's RTD, they totally would have.
Well its a big deal coming out of the closet.
Yes.
He's not a very subtle writer, is what I'm getting at.
Oddly enough, it appears to have been a suit at CBBC who asked RTD to introduce a gay character.
In other news, details about the Official Doctor Who Event in November are out -
http://celebration.doctorwho.tv/
Yeah, I think I'll skip that.
Er - why? There's a very legitimate chance every living Doctor and Companion will be persuaded to come (indeed the only one I expect to be unwilling would be Christopher Eccleston).
With it being a kids show, I don't think he would've gone in that direction. Although, with it being Luke, I could see him just dating a guy, and not realising that there is a stigma about it. And that would be the message that they would ring home. That you shouldn't have to be bothered by who you date. You just do. An idealistic world where coming out is not needed. Where if you want to, you can just date a guy (Or a girl if you want.). No worries about what people will think. That's the message he's always tried to put across with characters like Captain Jack.
Of course, This being RTD, I can see him doing some storyline revolving around some mind parasite feeding of secrets, thus making it a big deal.
As for the convention thing, I'm in two minds about it. None of my current friends like the show. Certainly not enough to fork out £80 for tickets and train fares, so I would be going alone. On the other side I will be at university then and I'm certain there will be many people in the Sci-Fi society who would go. But then it is a lot of money for a student...
Is anyone else actually going?
Because I don't want to spend however-much-it-was essentially to be plunged into an episode of the ever-tedious "Doctor Who Confidential", which seems pretty much to be what's on offer. Except BBC3 never offered the chance to buy a T-Shirt, I suppose....
The first time I've heard K-9 in a while, for one thing. It also is racking up some funny tweets: "BBC, stop messing with my head."
I hope it *doesn't* mean what *I* think it means.
That Tom Baker is going to smear Boris Johnson with Peanut butter whilst hiking up Mount Doom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xrnIXQ3iQ
Perhaps the Master....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2356508/Daily-Mail-cartoon-Mac--A-surprising-Egyptian-coup.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ujA-y9c5h2I
As I said on youtube, this is a basic case of fans transplanting their deepest fantasy on reality and then getting upset when reality turns out to be different. It's the equivalent of getting mad at someone because you had a dream where they bought you a car and then on your birthday, they gave you a book about cars.
Logically, from a business perspective, that makes little or no sense. Why would they deliberately piss off a bunch of fans to sell merchandise? This is a basic case of fans transplanting their deepest fantasy on reality and then getting upset when reality turns out to be different.
It's the equivalent of getting mad at someone because you had a dream where they bought you a car and then on your birthday, they gave you a book about cars.
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No, no. It's more like someone said to you that they would buy cars for you and all your family/friends for your 50th birthday party, but then they bought you a DVD about cars and said you had to pay for it if you wanted it.
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Honestly, though, I really didn't see where the automatic connection of mentioning the Fourth Doctor to him being in the show came from. Especially given that they have repeatedly said that there weren't going to be any classic doctors in the special.
I suppose a more correct analogy would be that it's like someone talks a lot about cars right before your birthday, you have a dream that they gave you a car, and then you get pissed at them when they give you a book about cars instead. Not cruel, just a severe misunderstanding.
DeLoreans mostly.
It'll be either "The Complete Fourth Doctor, Part One" or "The Best of the Fourth Doctor" in a set, I'm telling you.
And as the clip was uploaded by a channel owned by BBC Worldwide a trailer wouldn't appear there first for anything relating to the current programme - it'd be in direct contradiction with the BBC Charter.
How so?
It'd be a similar problem if they decided to air a new episode of Doctor Who on BBC America first - the commercial arm of the show cannot be used first. If that makes any sense. Any actual trailers or anything will be uploaded by BBC One's Youtube channel (or, in the case of An Adventure in Space and Time, BBC Two's)