Delorean Error

edited December 2010 in Back to the Future
ok so a few of us at bttfhillvalley.co.uk noticed that the Delorean has Mr. Fusion but not the futuristic license plate, instead it has the outatime license plate. I was wondering why that is (I'm asking for a friend who is a stickler for details like this.).
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  • edited December 2010
    Well, honestly, the time machine was destroyed in BTTF3... so no one really knows from which period this one comes. It may have been rebuilt, it may have been from between the movies... no idea! We'll just wait and see :D
  • edited December 2010
    We are trying to explain that to him but he doesn't care. He just says "It's supposed to have a futuristic license plate". The only explanation is "they just messed up".
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited December 2010
    MAYBE someone picked up the license plate from the Hill Valley parking lot in 1985 and REATTACHED it to a DeLorean from another time period, because the future plate is from an unwritten future and therefore disappeared.

    What? That is within at least two of the multiple logics of the triology! :D :D :D
  • edited December 2010
    Presumably Doc built a new DeLorean. Note how when Marty sees it it's covered in ice. The original DeLorean was covered in ice when Einstein first travelled one minute into the future, presumably as a side effect of time-travelling for the first time. After the DeLorean had been...broken in, you could say, it never went through that problem when time-travelling afterwards. The game's not out yet, so we can't say for sure, but presumably this is not the same DeLorean from the movies.

    Mr. Fusion is a useful upgrade. A futuristic license plate is not, since it serves no real purpose beyond avoiding standing out in 2015 (where Doc isn't planning Marty to go).
  • edited December 2010
    actually i think it was covered with ice again in the end if the first movie when he went back again.
  • edited December 2010
    Note how when Marty sees it it's covered in ice. *snip* After the DeLorean had been...broken in, you could say, it never went through that problem when time-travelling afterwards.

    It did went through that "problem" again (more like a side-effect), all through the trilogy, but in much lesser proportions. Even before it was destroyed by the train, you could see the thin frost layer formed on the top of the doors.

    I'm inclined to say it's a new DeLorean, because of the blank "Last Time Departed" readout -although it arrived from somewhen else (!)- and because taking the trilogy DeLorean would be 4th-dimensionally risky.
  • edited December 2010
    Perhaps the vehicle licensing people were chasing Doc for displaying plates not yet issued? :D
  • edited December 2010
    Well Doc should have made a rotating license-plate on the back of the Delorean with at least 3 or 4 kinds of different License-plates.. just with the touch of a button on the dashboard he can change rotate to another license plate if you know what i mean. :p he's a scientist. no more license-plate issues!
  • edited December 2010
    What about the Flux Capaciter seeming to pulsing in instead of out?
  • edited December 2010
    I also noticed that and mentioned it in the "Trailer" thread, let's see how it goes.

    It looks like the Torin blower and relays are missing, no big deal :P, and that the explosions the sparks make when they fire from the wormhole emitter/flux coils go through the car and can be seen from the interior. It looks weird, I don't know if that can be fixed or is an engine limitation.
  • edited December 2010
    Hell hath no fury like the anal retentive attention to detail from the guys at the BttF GTA:VC Mod crew. :P
  • edited December 2010
    Well, we can be a little nitpicky, can't we? :D, specially me, making a new DeLorean model.

    It's kind of a requirement to join our team ;)
  • edited December 2010
    Carlos85G wrote: »
    It looks like the Torin blower and relays are missing, no big deal :P

    The what with the which thing now?:confused:
  • edited December 2010
    Either details or no go. Kind of sad we simple modders get more right than a big name company like TellTale that is actually working with the original creators of BTTF.

    Accuracy is key for Movie Games like this.

    The relays are on the Flux Capacitor. They are the yellow tubes with orange tops.
  • edited December 2010
    And did you guys happen to notice that the actual DeLorean that appeared on GameTrailers TV last night (sitting parked next to Bob Gale, I might add) had the same license plate "issue"? I imagine that it was the same with the one that was displayed at PAX. Odds are it's intentional. Wait and see what explanation is given for the DeLorean being back before you jump on them for "the wrong license plate".
  • edited December 2010
    Nah it's just one guy. I'm ok with it.

    BTW, the torin blower goes next to the flux capacitor.
  • edited December 2010
    The relays are on the Flux Capacitor. They are the yellow tubes with orange tops.

    Actually, I meant the relays above the Torin blower, on the left of the flux capacitor (watching the DeLorean from the front)

    I'm O.K. with the "OUTATIME" license plate and the missing parts, anyway :D
  • edited December 2010
    We are trying to explain that to him but he doesn't care. He just says "It's supposed to have a futuristic license plate". The only explanation is "they just messed up".

    It's probably a case of 'I'll only be convinced that there's an in-universe explanation either when Telltale lets me pore through their development materials or when I play through the whole series, and I'm not touching the series unless I'm convinced that they've resolved the continuity errors they've made.' The first obviously ain't gonna happen, and the second is a chicken-and-egg problem.
  • edited December 2010
    Either details or no go. Kind of sad we simple modders get more right than a big name company like TellTale that is actually working with the original creators of BTTF.

    Accuracy is key for Movie Games like this.

    The relays are on the Flux Capacitor. They are the yellow tubes with orange tops.

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  • edited December 2010
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    LMAO. My new favorite pic.
  • edited December 2010
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    This is like the Jump To Conclusions Mat, only better. This will be posted so many times and it will make me feel happy every single time.
  • edited December 2010
    BiggerJ wrote: »
    This is like the Jump To Conclusions Mat, only better. This will be posted so many times and it will make me feel happy every single time.

    Hatershades*Doc makes everything better!
  • edited December 2010
    Either details or no go. Kind of sad we simple modders get more right than a big name company like TellTale that is actually working with the original creators of BTTF.

    Accuracy is key for Movie Games like this.

    The relays are on the Flux Capacitor. They are the yellow tubes with orange tops.

    SOME details are key. Others are simply not that important, or at least are only important to certain extent. Issues of characters, plot, continuity are far more important than "they forgot the nickel-sized widget next to the gizmo that's behind all the hoses are pipes, which you can see if you have the original prop two inches from your face"

    An exaggeration? Maybe, but I think the point still stands. Some silly little knick-knack that can only be seen on a high-res still is hardly crucial for capturing the spirit of the movies. I think the guys at TellTale spent the right amount of time and effort on the DeLorean, and it hardly looks sloppy.

    I mean, look at it this way; if they tried to model the DeLorean down to every last detail, that extra effort would produce diminishing returns. They'd end up spending a whole lot longer trying to make sure that every single nut and bolt was the right style, and that the proportions were accurate to within 3-5 decimal points, and after all that the only people who would really care about the difference would actually be a pretty small part of the fanbase. A lot of extra time and money spent to make only a small handful of people happy.

    That doesn't mean they're giving the detail-oriented people the finger, because it does look like they did put a lot of work into modeling the thing.
  • edited December 2010
    In all seriousness, I don't think the average BttF fan will care about the minor details on and inside the DeLorean. They'll probably think "Cool! I get to drive the DeLorean!" more than anything.

    It's nice to have shout-outs to the more devoted fandom set, but realistically speaking, the casual fan who grew up with the movies and may now be into gaming isn't going to give a rat's patooie about what color or what position the relays are on the Flux capacitor.

    Besides, they kept all the recognizable parts of the car. That's p. much one of the only things that matters at this point.
  • edited December 2010
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    All further complaints about BttF not being on the 360 get this as a response. Agreed? :D
  • edited December 2010
    All further complaints about BttF not being on the 360 get this as a response. Agreed? :D

    As a 360 owner, I have a sadface. ;(
  • edited December 2010
    Consider me a 8.5/10 on the scale of fanism when it comes to BttF(heck check the Nike Mags I bought in my sig) and to be honest, no I don't care at all. While I definitely do care about the little details, I consider these mentioned details on a microscopic level. Yeah...not something I am going to have the experience ruined.

    Still I am curious....could you do a comparison with stills from the movies and this trailer?
  • edited December 2010
    I consider myself a 11/10 BttF fan and I agree with Origami. I own multiple different Time Machine replicas, models and toys and they aren't all exactly precise down to the last bolt, but it doesn't bother me. I'm just simply not that nitpicky of a fan.
  • edited December 2010
    Spykes wrote: »
    I consider myself a 11/10 BttF fan and I agree with Origami. I own multiple different Time Machine replicas, models and toys and they aren't all exactly precise down to the last bolt, but it doesn't bother me. I'm just simply not that nitpicky of a fan.

    Same here. I keep seeing people ragging on the inaccuracies of the Sunstar time machines when the only inaccuracy I've ever noted was with the cables going over the rear wheel wells. *shrugs* To me, the DeLorean in the trailer looked very good.

    BTW, as to the flux capacitor's flux pattern...there is actually a scene in the movie where it fluxes the "wrong" way like it does in the game trailer.:p
  • edited December 2010
    There's a VERY subtle difference between "superfan" and "neurotic ocd superfan".
  • edited December 2010
    I think if you're a big enough fan to know what color the tubes are, you're also a big enough fan to know that the car got exploded to bits at the end of the third movie, and that this can't possibly be the same car, and so maybe on the new car, Doc used different color tubes. It is interesting that they brought back the first licence plate (hopefully it's attached better this time!), presumably at some point we'll find out where and when this car came from and it will make sense.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited December 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    What about the Flux Capaciter seeming to pulsing in instead of out?

    That's because Doc replaced Mr. Fusion with the much advanced 2020 model, Mr. Fission.
  • edited December 2010
    That's because Doc replaced Mr. Fusion with the much advanced 2020 model, Mr. Fission.

    How does toxic waste and decreased energy output make the Mr Fission more advanced? Or were you being sarcastic?
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited December 2010
    You're not thinking four-dimensionally. :D
  • edited December 2010
    I guess Doc decided he actually liked having the DeLorean run on plutonium, eh? :p
  • edited December 2010
    The other thing that I get a kick out of is that the DeLorean wasn't completely accurate in the movie itself. The flying model they used in Part 2 wasn't super accurate to the actual vehicle.
  • edited December 2010
    Well yeah, the real vehicle wasn't a DMC and couldn't fly.
  • edited December 2010
    The real vehicle couldn't fly, but it was a DMC, actually. I'm assuming you were thinking DMC is some kind of time-travel acronym Doc made up, but DMC simply stands for DeLorean Motor Car, and is the model of the car Doc used. Anyway, the point he was making was that the special effects model they used for the flying shots wasn't a 100% perfect copy of the full-sized DeLorean, at least not to the level that these GTA mod guys are talking about.
  • edited December 2010
    Jace Taran wrote: »
    The real vehicle was a DMC, actually. I'm assuming you were thinking DMC is some kind of time-travel acronym Doc made up, but DMC simply stands for DeLorean Motor Car, and is the model of the car Doc used. Anyway, the point he was making was that the special effects model they used for the flying shots wasn't a 100% perfect copy of the full-sized DeLorean, at least not to the level that these GTA mod guys are talking about.

    Since this is apparently the nit-picky thread, the C in DMC actually stands for Company, not Car. :p

    But serious, you got my point exactly. If something was horrifically misplaced or missing, it would be one thing. But you can't really complain about the game DeLorean not being 100% when the miniature flying model used in BttF2 is arguably less accurate.

    And don't get me started on the silly license plate argument...
  • edited December 2010
    Jace Taran wrote: »
    The real vehicle couldn't fly, but it was a DMC, actually. I'm assuming you were thinking DMC is some kind of time-travel acronym Doc made up, but DMC simply stands for DeLorean Motor Car, and is the model of the car Doc used. Anyway, the point he was making was that the special effects model they used for the flying shots wasn't a 100% perfect copy of the full-sized DeLorean, at least not to the level that these GTA mod guys are talking about.

    Most shots yes, but there were some shots that were obviously using a different model. First example, the shot of the time machine landing in the alley. Main differences are the "cooling towers" on the back and no DMC logo in the middle of the hubcaps.:p
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