Jp 4
Listen i know that there have been a whole lot of rumors about JP4 but i was reading up on it and jp legacy.org stated that Joe Johnston would start jp 4 after his movie "Captain America," and i just saw previews for it in theatres so i hope JP4 willstart production. The reason i started this form was so i could know what your thought was about JP4 and maybe your thoughts about what u want it to be about:D
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In my opinion, we are likey to see a second Captain America before the production of JP4 starts.
U might have a point. But if JP4 ever happens i want speilberg behind it, because if we rake a stroll down memory lane the third one sucked that is my opinion. I liked the first and second.
Agreed.
same here:(
Not sure what the hold up is, though. Jurassic Park is a very successful franchise with a proven track record of making money. As long as the project is well funded (what financier wouldn't want to back a JP movie?), the potential is endless.
Personally I think the success or failure of a new JP movie at the box office revolves solely around a compelling plot, tremendous acting/dialogue, and a familiar cast of characters. (hmm, did I just describe the needs of any successful movie?)
There are so many different approaches that could be taken:
- The worst idea imaginable would be a sequel in which dinosaurs have gotten off the island. I think this semi-logical concept has been fleshed out in several rejected scripts in the past. No matter how good you tried to make it, it would lose all the spirit of Jurassic Park, and just be people vs. monsters flick.
- Other ideas involve sequels that borrow unused ideas from Michael Chrichton's brilliant The Lost World novel. The overall idea was already worked into the movie, but more than half of the book was left out to accommodate a 2 hr movie. Even with the bits that were further used to populate JP 3 (unsuccessfully).
OP: The question I ask myself when thinking about what could make a great JP 4 is, "What mystery is left? What is missing from the known canon, that holds the most interesting details."
One thing comes to mind. Wu, and the making of Jurassic Park.
When I read (and re-read, and re-read) The Lost World, to me the most FASCINATING parts are learning about every little thing that went into the creation of the park's most valuable assets..the dinosaurs. The beginning, middle, and end of the Site B facility (as well as the creation of isla Nublar facility) must be riddled with awesome events:
-breaking ground.
-first successful dinosaur hatching.
-raising the first infants.
-problems with the early batches.
-the growing of the operation into a massive park at site A and huge production line at site B.
-planning to deal with adult dinosaurs.
-the delusion of success.
-releasing the juveniles into the wild on site B.
-eventual break down and abandonment of the site B facility, which occurred shortly after the disaster at Jurassic Park.
I think there is a lot there, and B D Wong could be a leading actor if he's available/interested.
A new trilogy, however, shows lots of promise financially and Universal knows this. The only problem is the story. The writers just dont have any material strong enough to support the longterm, and that is where the problem lies. Not whether or not they can make a sequel, but how can they make several sequels, with lasting appeal.
However, if they want the movie to actually be good they'll have to go in a diffrent direction then the movies seem to be going. I personally wouldn't want a reboot. It's too early for me to want that. But I wouldn't mind if they took the same approach that TellTale did and have a story that took place inbetween the films. Or if they did continue onward at least keep it on the islands and use some plots there were in the Novels.
I don't want a reboot, and I'm not sure the audience will accept it with the "Jurassic Park" name on it. I think it should deal with the further consequences of the island. There was very little talk in the books of animals leaving the island and appearing on the coast of Costa Rica. I think that's the best way to continue the series. And there are still a lot of great things in the Crichton books they didn't use.
And I actually don't mind Joe Johnston directing the film. He is perfectly capable of making a JP film. It's Kathleen Kennedy and David Koepp that ruined JP. All the things that went wrong in JP3 were all ideas that they had, Johnston just made the wrong decision in choosing those ideas. I know that Spielberg will most likely not want to to the 4th film, so Johnston is our best shot.
What would I want in JP4? I've had a few ideas for the fourth film, but my best idea is a prequel that involves Hurricane Clarissa and Isla Sorna. I won't give any information becuase I've been working on a fan script for some time now, and I want it shrouded in mystery until I finish.
There are two things that are a must for JP4 though:
1. Lewis Dodgson.
2. Carnotaurus.
Why not explore that aspect and elaborate that out a bit.
Thank You. Same here, and i want the original cast plus some new people.
from there i would make the other episodes about new exhibits and the new found problems with running a prehistoric zoo perhaps the introduction of a new aquatic exhibit in the island's interior) or possibly the retreval of dinosaurs, documents and materials from the still destroyed Site B or even alan and billy's discoveries with newly added dinosaur species. (sarchasuchus imperator?) or (ornitholestes) ? well thats my take on it. tell me what you think.
I think that is awesome. but i think it wouldnt feel like JP yah know, i mean without the running and screaming it just doesnt feel like a JP but i do like your idea. very very creative:)
BTW, returning to Isla Nublar wouldn't work for a 4th film unless it's a prequel. It was demolished at the end of JP1 and any dinosaurs left on the island would be dead.
From what I've seen from the new video game, I wouldn't mind it being the plot behind JP4.
Actually the first island was only demolished in the book well bombed, and i totally think they should do something with the first island, and i dont know what it is with Isla Sorna. The 2nd and 3rd movies were about that island, and i want the original cast and newbies back on Isla Nublar, Trying to save the dinosaurs, but not to rebuild another park. Also i think if Universal is wise they might make a movie based on this new game. that would be nice.
It would be awesome if Grant,Malcom and Ellie would be together in the 4th one after all those years.;)
anyone else think we would make better writers for the new movie than the jp3 writers, because all of these ideas ive heard sound really boss
Definatley, and i totally want Sattler back in this movie along with Grant, Malcolm, and the kids, and Hammond:D
Even if Joe Johnston wants to make it and decides to make it after his next summer movie, we still would be miles away from a fourth movie. A big adventure film like this takes a lot of years to get made, and the fact that they tried to do it right after the third came out, that doesn't make the whole thing easier. Even another "Indiana Jones" movie is being planned for about three years now, and still we've heard nothing concrete about that yet.
So we shouldn't set our hopes too high, but nevertheless two big events are coming closer for all JP fans - the game and the blu-ray release (hopefully that will be this year too).:)
I hope Spielberg won´t allow Johnston to come back for a fourth movie. He ruined the third movie so much, that Spielberg shouldn´t even consider to choose him as the director for the fourth installment. The master himself should take care of his great franchise. And not such a dumb director like Johnston. :mad:
There was an interview with Spielberg in 2006:
[18.07.2006] Awalt: [...] Online, there’s been talk about Breck Eisner on ‘Jurassic Park IV.’
Spielberg: That’s not true. Joe Johnston is standing by.
Awalt: First dibs on it?
Spielberg: First dibs on it, and Joe is my go-to ‘Jurassic’ guy now.
Awalt: There’s been talk about Joe Johnston that says he took the negative flack about ‘Jurassic Park III,’ and said in public that any faults with the film are his faults. There was talk that you didn’t care for the film, but it was profitable, and I’ve never heard you badmouth it in public, and I doubt you would, but...
Spielberg: Oh no, I don’t feel that way at all! I think the film is witty and clever, and I think Joe did an amazing job putting together those battles. And I think those battles Joe put together... I was jealous of the spinosaurus attack on the airplane! That scene where the spinosaurus attacks the airplane and the passengers inside the airplane was every bit as good as I thought the main road attack in ‘Jurassic Park’ was. So I’m a huge fan of Joe’s, and he’s the right guy to do the fourth one. [...]
http://www.moviefans.de/jurassicpark/archiv.html
F**k if Steven considers Johnston as director for the fourth, then it´s doomed in my opinion. :eek:
It would be good if the Rex would be the main dino of the fourth one, and not the spino.
You don't seem to understand how the film industry works. Johnston did a great job directing the third film.
Sure i do. But i don´t understand how you can say Johnston did a great job.
Okay JP3 was a decent film. It had great scenes like Spinosaurus in the river. But it was far far away from JP and TLW.
And what i meant wasn´t that Johnston is a bad director. It´s just that Jurassic Park isn´t really his thing.
The problem is that "Jurassic Park 3" is a straight B-movie (a B-movie of high quality), but "Jurassic Park" isn't a B-movie franchise. It just never felt like "Jurassic Park".
He proved he can do great action scenes, that Pteranodon scene was really good, so was the Spinosaur boat attack which was just too short. I would have nothing against Johnston directing a fourth one, as long as he doesn't have the intention to make a B-movie again.
I agree with you Jurassic Park III shouldn´t be a B-movie. Jurassic Park III would so much better if they used more scenes from the second book.
If Johnston would build scenes like the raptor chase on the motorcycle in TLW, then JP IV would be a fantastic film.
Johnton should not have rejected the original JPIII script, because, from what I have heard, it had a coherent story. There also should have been a military vs. dinosaurs scenes and Joe set up the mercenaries so well with the big gun, yet they proved to be dino-fodder.
So all in all, I think Joe Johntson could make a good JP movie if there is a good script.
I know I probably sound like a retard but what was the original script for the 3rd movie?
I think it was something with Dr. Grant living on Sorna
I read somewhere that a previous version dealt with teenagers landing on the island for whatever reason. I think Johnston said that in an interview.
I didn't like what they did with his character in this movie. Why isn't he together with Ellie Sattler anymore, why has he no kids? He was so grumpy at the beginning of the third, and the clearly visible Indiana Jones imitation was so unnecessary...
Yeah that´s what i thought too. I mean at the end of JP1 he changed his opinion about kids. So it would be nice if in the 3rd he and Ellie would be a happy couple with kids.
But i think i read somewhere, they consider for a fourth film that Ellie seperates from her husband and she and Alan get together. I don´t know if it´s true