Telltale damages the JP jeep they borrowed

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  • edited November 2011
    *snip*

    Ok PLEASE MODERATORS CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW !!!!
    Sorry for creating it in the first place
  • edited November 2011
    *snip*

    several tens of thousands? How many is that?

    Where is the IGN story? The kotaku? Where is all the information you are talking about?
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited November 2011
    No personal insults in here. I mean it.
  • edited November 2011
    TellTale should do what is right and stop being scumbags.

    The way you speak to everyone and the way you are completely nonchalant about the entire things makes me think you work for them.

    The way you speak makes me guess you enjoyed minor education.
  • edited November 2011
    TP3D wrote: »
    Hammond is actually Alan Grant's father.

    Nooooooooooooooooooooo! :D
  • edited November 2011
    *snip*

    Mods you are going to banhammer him for that right? That's a disgusting thing to say.
  • edited November 2011
    Seriously, guys. NO PERSONAL INSULTS. I know you can all discuss this rationally.

    Thank you.
  • edited November 2011
    *snip*

    Dude do you know what you said? you're willing, no wishing to sentence someone to an agonising death over their opinion that you're a dick? You've got the mind and mouth of a 12 year old. Either that or you should really get psychiatric help.Think before you replay to someone.

    Seriously, grow the fuck up and get your point across intellectuality or stay out of the fucking gene pool.

    If you've got a valid point to make and ABSOLUTE proof that that Jeep is indeed the same Jeep telltale used, AND have an intelligent way of putting forward your opinion then state your case without the use of schoolyard tactics.
  • edited November 2011
    Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!
  • edited November 2011
    Guys, this is my last warning. I want BOTH SIDES of this argument to stay civil. No name calling. You CAN have and express an opinion without resorting to personal attacks.
  • edited November 2011
    T002Tyrant wrote: »
    If you've got a valid point to make and ABSOLUTE proof that that Jeep is indeed the same Jeep telltale used, AND have an intelligent way of putting forward your opinion then state your case without the use of schoolyard tactics.

    Here you go.

    MASTER LINK TO THIS CONTROVERSY: [1] http://www.jurassicjeep.com/

    Please share it with any gaming blogs or sites that you choose. Joystiq and Kotaku are appreciated.

    [2] http://www.facebook.com/telltalegames

    [3] pr@telltalegames.com

    So I've got this JP Jeep, right? [4] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg

    Earlier this summer I was contacted by a representative from TellTale Games.They informed me that they were developing a Jurassic Park adventure title for multiple platforms and were looking for a JP Jeep that they could use in a promotional booth at a Seattle gaming convention called PAX in August.

    Last year they had produced a Back to the Future game and used the DeLorean that belongs to a acquaintance of mine. As I was unsure how to respond, I contacted my DeLorean owner friend and asked him what kind of deal they approached him with. He said he asked TellTale for insured, enclosed transport -both ways- for his car, airfare, hotel, con passes, and daily per diem. He also received several grand from them for the use of the car alone.

    So I was all like "That sounds terrific! If you provide enclosed, insured shipping both ways, airfare, badges for the con, hotel, and per diem then you've got yourself a deal!"

    They were pretty appreciative of me providing the Jeep to them for free, so they booked transport for my Jeep and we were on our way.

    The morning of the pickup I walked aaaaaaall the way around my Jeep and took quite a few pictures of the condition I gave it to them in. Like these:

    [5] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg [RES ignored duplicate image]

    [6] http://i.imgur.com/DdgnO.jpg

    Then I was off to meet the enclosed transport! Except the transport showed up and was NOT enclosed! I could have been a dick and said, "No dice, friends" and not given them the Jeep. But unfortunately I'm not a dick.

    The Jeep goes on it's way and I fly out a week later. The Jeep was delivered that morning and signed for by one TellTale's employees, a self-professed "person who doesn't know anything about cars and in fact does not even own a car!"

    Here's what I saw during my walkaround. [7] http://i.imgur.com/gqadPl.jpg

    [8] http://i.imgur.com/NWS7R.jpg

    [9] http://i.imgur.com/NUAYB.jpg

    [10] http://i.imgur.com/NxQK5.jpg

    [11] http://i.imgur.com/EEX6M.jpg

    After the walkaround, and before the convention, I talk to the guys at TellTale, among them Kevin Bruner, the company's CEO. I tell them, "Look I could be "that guy" and throw a fit, threatening to take my Jeep out of here tonight unless you cut me a check right now, but I know this is a huge fuckinging weekend for you guys, that you need to promote your game and you've gone a ton of shit to worry about. So, we can but this on a back burner until the expo is over, but I'd like your word that you'll take care of this immediately afterwards." They were pretty appreciative, and even though I received no per diem or additional badges, I decided to not be a dick about things.

    Then the Jeep came home, I didn't hear from TellTale. A week later I reached out to them, and it was a few more days before they got back to me, telling me that I'd have to file a claim with the auto transport company (Advance Car Carrier Corp.). I told them that I did not arrange for the transportation, and that I should not have to be the middleman. They insist that they are not responsible for the damage in any way, and that only the car owner can file a claim.

    So I send all my claim information (scanned receipts and delivery invoices, before and after photos) to the car carrier, and they reply with:

    "We have completed our assessment of the above loss and have determined that this is not car carrier damage. After carefully reviewing the damage pictures that you have sent to us, we found that all the damages was noted on the Bill of Lading before transporting your vehicle. Also please note that vehicle was inspected in rain and possible that not all the damages were visible. For that reason the box, where it says that vehicle going ASIS was marked.

    Enclosed with this letter is a copy of the Bill of Lading signed by "xxxx" on August 30, 2011 in where was noted that vehicle had pre-existing damages before transporting from WA to CO."

    Now, the damage was done on the way TO Seattle, not FROM. And here's a photo of it "raining" while they loaded up my Jeep. [12] http://i.imgur.com/IQLaK.jpg Sure is hard to see stuff with all that rain!

    So TellTale hired the sketchiest-possible carrier company, and then one of TellTale's employees(who admitted she doesn't know the first thing about cars) signed the bill of lading upon delivery without inspecting the Jeep for damage, thereby releasing the car carrier from responsibility.

    I'm disputing their decision, but I have the sinking feeling that I am going to be one of those cases that is just ignored until I go away. Bullshit man.

    I guess my lesson is "next time get stuff in writing and be a big dick about everything."

    I haven't heard from TellTale in months regarding this issue, it seems to be resolved as far as they are concerned. Now, the Jurassic Park game is set to be launched this week. I don't really know if there's anything I can do, but it seems like if there was ever a time for visibility on this problem, it's now.
  • edited November 2011
    Rationale wins again!
  • edited November 2011
    Jeez whats wrong with you people signing up just to bash people, I thought we who have been on these forums a while might talk about it like sane people.
    Don´t you joined november 2011 posters have anything better to do ??
  • edited November 2011
    Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

    Your done here. I can understand being upset over the issue and wanting to right things but being a jerk about it isn't helping the situations.
  • edited November 2011
    I'm surprised you haven't banned this troll yet.
  • edited November 2011
    Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

    Aren't you also just hiding behind a keyboard?

    Anyways, I won't side in this matter until I hear an official statement from Telltale.
  • edited November 2011
    Here you go.

    MASTER LINK TO THIS CONTROVERSY: [1] http://www.jurassicjeep.com/

    Please share it with any gaming blogs or sites that you choose. Joystiq and Kotaku are appreciated.

    [2] http://www.facebook.com/telltalegames

    [3] pr@telltalegames.com

    So I've got this JP Jeep, right? [4] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg

    Earlier this summer I was contacted by a representative from TellTale Games.They informed me that they were developing a Jurassic Park adventure title for multiple platforms and were looking for a JP Jeep that they could use in a promotional booth at a Seattle gaming convention called PAX in August.

    Last year they had produced a Back to the Future game and used the DeLorean that belongs to a acquaintance of mine. As I was unsure how to respond, I contacted my DeLorean owner friend and asked him what kind of deal they approached him with. He said he asked TellTale for insured, enclosed transport -both ways- for his car, airfare, hotel, con passes, and daily per diem. He also received several grand from them for the use of the car alone.

    So I was all like "That sounds terrific! If you provide enclosed, insured shipping both ways, airfare, badges for the con, hotel, and per diem then you've got yourself a deal!"

    They were pretty appreciative of me providing the Jeep to them for free, so they booked transport for my Jeep and we were on our way.

    The morning of the pickup I walked aaaaaaall the way around my Jeep and took quite a few pictures of the condition I gave it to them in. Like these:

    [5] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg [RES ignored duplicate image]

    [6] http://i.imgur.com/DdgnO.jpg

    Then I was off to meet the enclosed transport! Except the transport showed up and was NOT enclosed! I could have been a dick and said, "No dice, friends" and not given them the Jeep. But unfortunately I'm not a dick.

    The Jeep goes on it's way and I fly out a week later. The Jeep was delivered that morning and signed for by one TellTale's employees, a self-professed "person who doesn't know anything about cars and in fact does not even own a car!"

    Here's what I saw during my walkaround. [7] http://i.imgur.com/gqadPl.jpg

    [8] http://i.imgur.com/NWS7R.jpg

    [9] http://i.imgur.com/NUAYB.jpg

    [10] http://i.imgur.com/NxQK5.jpg

    [11] http://i.imgur.com/EEX6M.jpg

    After the walkaround, and before the convention, I talk to the guys at TellTale, among them Kevin Bruner, the company's CEO. I tell them, "Look I could be "that guy" and throw a fit, threatening to take my Jeep out of here tonight unless you cut me a check right now, but I know this is a huge fuckinging weekend for you guys, that you need to promote your game and you've gone a ton of shit to worry about. So, we can but this on a back burner until the expo is over, but I'd like your word that you'll take care of this immediately afterwards." They were pretty appreciative, and even though I received no per diem or additional badges, I decided to not be a dick about things.

    Then the Jeep came home, I didn't hear from TellTale. A week later I reached out to them, and it was a few more days before they got back to me, telling me that I'd have to file a claim with the auto transport company (Advance Car Carrier Corp.). I told them that I did not arrange for the transportation, and that I should not have to be the middleman. They insist that they are not responsible for the damage in any way, and that only the car owner can file a claim.

    So I send all my claim information (scanned receipts and delivery invoices, before and after photos) to the car carrier, and they reply with:

    "We have completed our assessment of the above loss and have determined that this is not car carrier damage. After carefully reviewing the damage pictures that you have sent to us, we found that all the damages was noted on the Bill of Lading before transporting your vehicle. Also please note that vehicle was inspected in rain and possible that not all the damages were visible. For that reason the box, where it says that vehicle going ASIS was marked.

    Enclosed with this letter is a copy of the Bill of Lading signed by "xxxx" on August 30, 2011 in where was noted that vehicle had pre-existing damages before transporting from WA to CO."

    Now, the damage was done on the way TO Seattle, not FROM. And here's a photo of it "raining" while they loaded up my Jeep. [12] http://i.imgur.com/IQLaK.jpg Sure is hard to see stuff with all that rain!

    So TellTale hired the sketchiest-possible carrier company, and then one of TellTale's employees(who admitted she doesn't know the first thing about cars) signed the bill of lading upon delivery without inspecting the Jeep for damage, thereby releasing the car carrier from responsibility.

    I'm disputing their decision, but I have the sinking feeling that I am going to be one of those cases that is just ignored until I go away. Bullshit man.

    I guess my lesson is "next time get stuff in writing and be a big dick about everything."

    I haven't heard from TellTale in months regarding this issue, it seems to be resolved as far as they are concerned. Now, the Jurassic Park game is set to be launched this week. I don't really know if there's anything I can do, but it seems like if there was ever a time for visibility on this problem, it's now.

    That's better, thank you
  • edited November 2011
    I would also like to see all the major news game/consumer site's stories on this that were indicated.
  • edited November 2011
    If I am wrong because he keeps sending me childish PMs you people need some serious help.

    Here I will post this again ...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

    I love how none of you have anything to say about the fact that TellTale is screwing this guy over. Just launching personal attacks towards anyone who is on his side. It is really laughable but pathetic at the same time.

    Damnation to any who oppose the great TellTale and their lackey TP3D!!! LMFAO
  • edited November 2011
    Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

    sarcasm_detector.jpg
  • edited November 2011
    Hrm, I was hoping posting on the forums would just bring to Telltale's attention that people were unhappy with the way the jeep's owner was treated... I hope my posting directing to Reddit wasn't cause for all this anger.

    My point was that I believe Telltale should pay for the damages of the car, nothing more. I personally wasn't interested in purchasing JP, but I've been a long time fan of Telltale's works, and always touted their games. I just hope this doesn't besmirch the company in any way; normally Telltale is spoken of well on r/gaming.
  • edited November 2011
    If I am wrong because he keeps sending me childish PMs you people need some serious help.

    Here I will post this again ...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

    I love how none of you have anything to say about the fact that TellTale is screwing this guy over. Just launching personal attacks towards anyone who is on his side. It is really laughable but pathetic at the same time.

    Damnation to any who oppose the great TellTale and their lackey TP3D!!! LMFAO
    Can't you make your point without insulting people? Besides, this article was probably created to boycott the release of the game
  • edited November 2011
    Thank you for keeping the discussion civil.
  • edited November 2011
    Telltale hasn't said anything about this yet, so that article might be fake.
  • edited November 2011
    If I am wrong because he keeps sending me childish PMs you people need some serious help.

    Here I will post this again ...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

    I love how none of you have anything to say about the fact that TellTale is screwing this guy over. Just launching personal attacks towards anyone who is on his side. It is really laughable but pathetic at the same time.

    Damnation to any who oppose the great TellTale and their lackey TP3D!!! LMFAO

    Really if it is true, the main people to blame are Telltale's legal department. In basic procedure they should have made a report to head office, inspected the damage for themselves, compared photos, and if it's proven automatically get the liability insurance to cover damages. This should be automatic practice for a large company. Then the head office can decide if they want to further compensate said claimer.
  • edited November 2011
    WARP10CK wrote: »
    Jeez whats wrong with you people signing up just to bash people, I thought we who have been on these forums a while might talk about it like sane people.
    Don´t you joined november 2011 posters have anything better to do ??

    You’re talking about the internet and how mature it can possibly at times. I mean the trolls, the hackers, and the self-righteous imbeciles. I know it’s no excuse, but still this thread will closed down (it’s inevitable). Also I am willing to be patient instead of jumping to conclusions.
  • edited November 2011
    Telltale hasn't said anything about this yet, so that article might be fake.

    Kevin Bruner responded directly on reddit - claiming that the owner of the jeep had his contact info ... doesn't Kevin remember talking to him at PAX? Doesn't Kevin have the owner's contact info? Seems like the owner has been trying to contact him and get TellTale to take care of it and was pushed off by TellTale with a scummy move about filing a claim himself even though he didn't hire the transportation company ...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/c2zqr3d?context=3
  • edited November 2011
    I am buying this game, and it will be awesome...tnx u Telltale once again...fullstop :)
  • edited November 2011
    Kevin Bruner responded directly on reddit - claiming that the owner of the jeep had his contact info ... doesn't Kevin remember talking to him at PAX? Doesn't Kevin have the owner's contact info? Seems like the owner has been trying to contact him and get TellTale to take care of it and was pushed off by TellTale with a scummy move about filing a claim himself even though he didn't hire the transportation company ...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/c2zqr3d?context=3
    Or this guy saw this as an opportunity to boycott the release of the game by claiming that they damaged his jeep.
  • edited November 2011
    Please do not double post. Thank you.
  • edited November 2011
    Or this guy saw this as an opportunity to boycott the release of the game by claiming that they damaged his jeep.

    So he faked the pictures somehow?
  • edited November 2011
    Or this guy saw this as an opportunity to boycott the release of the game by claiming that they damaged his jeep.

    That seems like a weird thing to do. What would his motivation be?
  • edited November 2011
    Ok if this is true, I do feel sorry for the guy, I really do. I hope he wins said lawsuit. BUT it isn't going to stop me from buying telltale's games. It's not the games developer's fault that their legal department are scummy. Also I'm too much a fan of Jurassic Park, and nothing will get in my way of playing it....nothing.....
  • edited November 2011
    T002Tyrant wrote: »
    Ok if this is true, I do feel sorry for the guy, but it isn't going to stop me from buying telltale's games. It's not the games developer's fault that their legal department are scummy. Also I'm too much a fan of Jurassic Park, and nothing will get in my way of playing it....nothing.....

    What if I told you that the dinosaurs talk to you in the game? Would that get in the way? ;)
  • edited November 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    That seems like a weird thing to do. What would his motivation be?
    He probably hates reboots, remember what happened when Skylanders was announced? Tons of butthurt Spyro fans sent death threats to activision to prevent its release
  • edited November 2011
    TellTale Y U NO FIX JEEP!?!
  • edited November 2011
    I really can't see why this was even turned public, at least before it was settled between the two parties involved since this only matters to Telltale and the jeep's owner and only them. This is a matter that should be discussed in particular and not all through the internet.

    Whether or not Telltale doesn't take responsibility for the jeep's damage it's not anyone business besides the jeep's owner. Boycotting this in the internet make you lose all the reason you might have at first, really.
  • edited November 2011
    FixTheJeep wrote: »
    telltale y u no fix jeep!?!
    y u come here to hate?
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