I think we can all agree we'd rather it be done right then be Mass Effect 3 {man i can't stop complaining about ME3}
What the hell is with your references to Mass Effect 3? Walking Dead is about a Zombie Apocalypse. Mass Effect 3 is about your attempt to save the galaxy from Synthetics that are trying to destroy it.
Telltale has a strong history of releasing episodic games but more importantly, we wanted this game to offer an experience analogous to the comic books and TV show, which are also episodic in nature. We have plans for 5 episodes, releasing once per month.
They didn't make any promise but they stated here. Sorry, you can't defend this. Telltale are doing wrong with this releasing dates matter.
Once per month means one episode on April, another one on May... and so on. If you state this on FAQs and answering to the customers that it will be a monthly release then the customers will believe that. Then Telltale say that they won't release episode 2 on May. It's normal that people complains at them.
Keyword: PLAN. I know you already admitted you there isn't any promise, but that only makes my point stronger.
Also, complaining isn't the issue. It's CONSTANT, CONSISTENT, complaining that isn't helping. You said your piece, now just wait.
Honestly it seems pointless to participate in the arguement but how about this as an excuse "We Released Episode 1 too early we should have released it in may so then junes release of episode 2 would be monthly"
Gain access to the full season [5 episodes] of The Walking Dead with this purchase, which will act as your gateway to obtaining all of the episodes in a dark and emotional season where every decision and action can result in the entire story of the game changing around you.
Episode 1 is available immediately upon purchasing the full season with the remaining episodes being delivered monthly thereafter. Updates will automatically be downloaded and applied via the Steam client, which will allow new episodes to appear in the in-game menu.
The Walking Dead is a five-part game series set in the same universe as Robert Kirkman’s award-winning comic book series. Play as Lee Everett, a convicted criminal, who has been given a second chance at life in a world devastated by the undead. With corpses returning to life and survivors stopping at nothing to maintain their own safety, protecting an orphaned girl named Clementine may offer him redemption in a world gone to hell.
A continuing story of adventure horror spanning across 5 episodes:
Episode 1 – A New Day - Available Now!
Episode 2 – Starved for Help
Episode 3 – Long Road Ahead
Episode 4 – Around Every Corner
Episode 5 – No Time Lef
strait from steam page "being delivered monthly thereafter" NOT MAYBE so they have let us down
Monthly could mean "4 weeks". Has it been four weeks yet? What if this was released on June 1st or June 4th? Hardly a serious breach.
And besides, anything below 2 months is fine with me. I've always known they were like this. Complaining about it isn't going to make them go faster. It's pointless. That's my issue. The situation is what it is. There is NOTHING you can do to make it faster, so what's the point? It's annoying the hell out of the rest of us. Just. Shut. Up. Yes, you are right in many respects. No, I don't need to hear it for the 100TH TIME.
Just bought the game and completed it and it was awesome.
I've never bought a Tell tale game before, because to be frank I'd never even heard of them, so I was pleasantly surprised to discover this game although I'm not a fan of TWD. I also bought it on PS3 for the complete collection pack.
However, despite enjoying the game massively, I am a bit disappointed to discover that it may not be coming out this month. To be frank I was promised a monthly game and if Tell Tale don't follow up on this promise then I would be disappointed.
However, all that said, it hasn't been a month yet since the first episodes release so I won't be complaining until the 27th of May has passed and indeed, nobody should, because the monthly cycle hasn't finished yet.
They've already announced it will be released in June.
My problem isn't so much with the substance of your complaints, it's the amount of complaining you guys are doing. It's like the kid that always go "Are we there yet?" when driving. No, we aren't there yet. Stop asking. Asking more isn't going to make it go faster. Asking more isn't going to make it any better. Just shut up, wait, and go to sleep or do something else to occupy your time until we are there.
That was directed at eblocksonian and his reply to the person who linked the oringal quote proving it was said to be released monthly, "Keyword: PLAN. I know you already admitted you there isn't any promise, but that only makes my point stronger."
That was directed at eblocksonian and his reply to the person who linked the oringal quote proving it was said to be released monthly, "Keyword: PLAN. I know you already admitted you there isn't any promise, but that only makes my point stronger."
Exactly. and that's my point. There is nothing to be spelt out. It doesn't disprove my point.
As I said maybe ttg will see the point of its consumers and pick up the pace a bit.
There has been deafening silence from any official ttg members, would like to see a post from them addressing some of the concerns here, as why the delay, will there be more delays and a apology for the delays to pre-paid customers
And why should they pick up the pace? Just so they can put out a buggy or rushed product? Sorry son, I don't want that. And neither do you. You already said yourself, you aren't complaining to make up the pace, you are doing this to annoy the rest of us.
As for an apology, with the exception of Jurassic Park, they haven't done it before, and I don't think they believe they had to. You ain't having Jurassic Park level delays.
Exactly. and that's my point. There is nothing to be spelt out. It doesn't disprove my point.
Do you want to tell us that we have not to trust on what Telltale say about their releasing dates unless they promised about that?
This is the first time that Telltale have a delay and they tell it to the customers using a trailer. It's subtle... and rude. This is not because I want the game NOW, I'm patient, but this was not good by Telltale.
I repeat, you can't defend them for this. You're not right. They would have to use the forums and make an announcement telling us that Episode 2 will have a delay.
Do you want to tell us that we have not to trust on what Telltale say about their releasing dates unless they promised about that?
This is the first time that Telltale have a delay and they tell it to the customers using a trailer. It's subtle... and rude. This is not because I want the game NOW, I'm patient, but this was not good by Telltale.
I repeat, you can't defend them for this. You're not right. They would have to use the forums and make an announcement telling us that Episode 2 will have a delay.
I'm not defending what they did. I'm saying, you really should stop complaining about it. You already have, you made your points. Saying it over and over isn't giong to help. Also, they made no promises.
I'm not defending what they did. I'm saying, you really should stop complaining about it. You already have, you made your points. Saying it over and over isn't giong to help. Also, they made no promises.
this message board was designed for gamers to communicate with one another to share ideas and opinions...are you just frustrated most of the comments don't reflect your own? If you're sick and tired about reading the topic about how people are upset, stop coming to the thread.
It's definitely disappointing, because I think everyone (including, from the look of it, some TTG Staff as well) was expecting a monthly release for "The Walking Dead".
In the case of "BTTF", it was advertised from the start that there would be a gap between the first 2 episodes, so I was expecting it, but every indication on this was monthly from the FAQ to the Steam description...
That being said, it's disappointing, but not the end of the world - June could mean June 1st for all I know - and I've got plenty of other games to keep me occupied in the meantime.
In my opinion (for what it's worth), TTG do tend to make the "issue" worse by not getting in front of it and addressing it quickly within the community (and I agree, a quick tack on to a preview trailer isn't generally enough) - a short statement "Sorry Guys, due to some 'Problem X", we've seen a slight delay" would go a long way to appeasing some of the more vocal members of the forums - and, hey, as a Customer Service Manager myself, it's not so much as whether someone is "owed" an explanation so much as it is a common courtesy for your customers. In order to ensure repeat business for my customers, I quite often have to offer a "mea culpa" to keep everyone happy if something doesn't go according to plan.
The closest community I can say used to have similar issues was Harmonix & the "Rock Band" series - they (seemingly) used to stick their heads in the sand hoping the complaints would die down whenever something went wrong, but they quickly changed their policy to pro-actively getting the information out to the forums first when they realised the problems wouldn't go away.
this message board was designed for gamers to communicate with one another to share ideas and opinions...are you just frustrated most of the comments don't reflect your own? If you're sick and tired about reading the topic about how people are upset, stop coming to the thread.
No, I'm not frustrated with your points... because I agree with most of them. What I don't agree with is, is constant complaining. It's NOT helping. If it was, would you think I would try to shoot you guys down? I would be egging of all you on! But clearly it's not helping anyone. I'm asking all of you to do something productive, absent that or the inability to, then don't do anything unproductive. It's a waste of your time. It's waste of their time. It's a waste of our time.
this message board was designed for gamers to communicate with one another to share ideas and opinions...are you just frustrated most of the comments don't reflect your own? If you're sick and tired about reading the topic about how people are upset, stop coming to the thread.
A definite yes to the first idea, and a definite no to the second! Frustration has its place on these boards, and when it's communicated in a civil manner, there's nothing wrong in doing it. But you will also have to understand that there are people watching the release date discussion who don't particularly fancy going through complaint after complaint.
What I'm personally getting tired of is people who JUST come here to flame around about the release date(s). When you've reached 44 posts here and, looking back, every single one of those 44 posts were nothing but semi-insulting attacks on Telltale's release schedule, you've misunderstood the purpose of this board entirely - and clearly refuse to be part of a community which wishes to discuss the GAME first and foremost here.
Yup, Telltale staff look into these forums pretty regularly and even post once in a while, but if you want to communicate TO the designers, maybe an email is the better option. For these posters, a thorough reevaluation of their communicative goals would be in order. You're communicating to the community here, and when complaints after complaints are made, members of the community have a right to get bored of it and voice that as well without being told to leave the thread if they don't like it.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm really not that satisfied with Telltale's present communication, but this isn't a broken leg or anything. As you can clearly see from the poll, the moderators have at least pondered the possibility that the second episode might be released early June based on past experience. It bears repeating that moderators have NO inside knowledge, still div has left that window for good reason.
Opposed to many other Telltale games before, the first episode of TWD released rather late in the month (24th). If you're interpreting the term "monthly" as strictly tied to the month names, you'd readily accept up to 60 days between episodes had the first episode released early in the month (for example, April 1st to May 31st would still be considered "monthly" by that definition!). If you're going for a different definition and leave exactly a 31 day maximum between episodes to match "monthly", well, you're probably living quite well on royalties for the invention of nitpicking anyway. Personally, six weeks between episodes would still be pretty monthly for me, and if an episode shifts a bit into the next month, hey, what the heck.
By now, I don't even have reason to bring the term "delay" into the conversation. For all we know, we could still have a poll winner and an episode before June 6th. However, the actual release month could have been communicated with a bit more care, not as a subordinate clause afterthought to a thematically completely different blog entry. As is evident from these forums, release dates matter much to community members, and their eager anticipation is nothing to disregard or even toy with.
We've got a lot of new people here for TWD, and it is understandable that they just can not right away bring the same trust to the company that long term watchers possess by their experience.
I'm not at all worried about the release date here. But I would love to still see a poll winner, because the release date guessing game tradition would be off to an ill start if the second episode would not release before June 6th!
When its posted that each episode will come out monthly I think that means one in each month name OR 30 days apart, give or take a couple days. And since we have got confirmation that it will be released in June is disappointing because I was under the impression before I bought the season pass that I would have the second this month...May. This is only the second episode...can you imagine how complex the story line will be with the many branched off variables the designers have to play out in episode 4 or 5? When your dealing with people who pay for your product I think communication and honesty is the only avenue. And when you advertise one thing before taking someones money and change it after you have money in hand it becomes a little shady. Its only a video game that costed a couple bucks...yes I get that. But as a consumer I still feel like I was lied to and am actually more worried about much longer delays with upcoming versions even more then this episode.
When its posted that each episode will come out monthly I think that means one in each month name OR 30 days apart, give or take a couple days. And since we have got confirmation that it will be released in June is disappointing because I was under the impression before I bought the season pass that I would have the second this month...May. This is only the second episode...can you imagine how complex the story line will be with the many branched off variables the designers have to play out in episode 4 or 5? When your dealing with people who pay for your product I think communication and honesty is the only avenue. And when you advertise one thing before taking someones money and change it after you have money in hand it becomes a little shady. Its only a video game that costed a couple bucks...yes I get that. But as a consumer I still feel like I was lied to and am actually more worried about much longer delays with upcoming versions even more then this episode.
They never lied to you. They were saying they were planning to do so, not that they were definitively going to do so.
I first came to TTG with the Tales of Monkey Island series. Every month I was disappointed with the release date (which was sometimes as long as 6 weeks, as I recall) but always loved the episode itself. Meaning, it is always worth the wait even though it always kills you to do so.
Although, perhaps "kills" isn't the right word for this series...
No, if it comes out in late June, it doesn't disprove anything. They made no promise. That's my point.
Joke poster or I just didn't explain my post properly.
Oh I get it from now on whenever I'm asked to, or tell anyone anything it won't hold any merit unless I make a promise :P
Makes sense ill have to try this at work someday, I'm meant to be working Sunday this week but I won't bother to go in since I never actually promised I would, I just said I would...
Great stuff.
So just to clarify, your point is - if somebody ever tells you anything and then doesn't live up to their word it doesn't actually mean they went back on what they've said since they never said 'i promise'
Or does that only count on products you've paid fall price for after being given it's timeframe for release?
Or If I didn't explain properly my fault I'll try again :-s
The quote was "We have plans for 5 episodes, releasing once per month"
Now if they had plans for releasing 5 episodes once a month the quote would have read...
We have plans for 5 episodes releasing once per month
This would indicate that they have PLANS not only for 5 episodes but for them being released once a month.
But insert the comma after 5 episodes means that they only had plans for 5 episodes, Subsequent testing proved that to be not possible so it wont be released once every month AS STATED.
Unless you seriously don't give developers any merit in what they have to say unless they say the word promise within the sentence?
Ahh, good to see references to Monty Python's Flying Circus. Still hilarious after all this time.
I too was disappointed to see a June release was announced, however, as we don't know WHEN in June, I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it. If I did, I'm sure it would be released on June 2nd, and then I'd be forced to acknowledge I acted like a petulant child.
Delays in the video game biz are inevitable, and I've been disappointed before, but after playing episode one, I'm very sure that Ep 2 is well worth the wait.
Joke poster or I just didn't explain my post properly.
Oh I get it from now on whenever I'm asked to, or tell anyone anything it won't hold any merit unless I make a promise :P
Makes sense ill have to try this at work someday, I'm meant to be working Sunday this week but I won't bother to go in since I never actually promised I would, I just said I would...
Great stuff.
So just to clarify, your point is - if somebody ever tells you anything and then doesn't live up to their word it doesn't actually mean they went back on what they've said since they never said 'i promise'
Or does that only count on products you've paid fall price for after being given it's timeframe for release?
Or If I didn't explain properly my fault I'll try again :-s
The quote was "We have plans for 5 episodes, releasing once per month"
Now if they had plans for releasing 5 episodes once a month the quote would have read...
We have plans for 5 episodes releasing once per month
This would indicate that they have PLANS not only for 5 episodes but for them being released once a month.
But insert the comma after 5 episodes means that they only had plans for 5 episodes, Subsequent testing proved that to be not possible so it wont be released once every month AS STATED.
Unless you seriously don't give developers any merit in what they have to say unless they say the word promise within the sentence?
I'm a literal person. If they don't say exactly what they should say, there is ALWAYS wiggle room.
I too was disappointed to see a June release was announced, however, as we don't know WHEN in June, I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it. If I did, I'm sure it would be released on June 2nd, and then I'd be forced to acknowledge I acted like a petulant child.
Brother, I am right there with you! LOL... I feel the exact same way.. thank you for having the balls to actually say it.:p
Hey I bought this game paid 24.99 for it and have it on STEAM played the first episode and was told episode 2 would be out the end of this month. I came on the website here to see when the date for release of episode 2 and nothing .....instead they are talking about episode 4??? DOES ANYONE KNOW (att Forum moderaters) WHEN EPISODE WILL BE RELEASED ??
Hey I bought this game paid 24.99 for it and have it on STEAM played the first episode and was told episode 2 would be out the end of this month. I came on the website here to see when the date for release of episode 2 and nothing .....instead they are talking about episode 4??? DOES ANYONE KNOW (att Forum moderaters) WHEN EPISODE WILL BE RELEASED ??
It's not talking about episode 4, that is episode 4 of a video series that talks about the game. Unrelated, I can understand why you'd be confused if you didn't watch or read anything amidst your excitement
June?! thought they were doin it by month not month and a half or longer i woulda know the procrastimation was gonna happen i would bought the season after they were all releases lol.
I expect if all previous choices are carried over then it will take longer and longer to design each episode. I'm willing to wait, I don't want the Mass Effect treatment.
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Very little similiarities.
Keyword: PLAN. I know you already admitted you there isn't any promise, but that only makes my point stronger.
Also, complaining isn't the issue. It's CONSTANT, CONSISTENT, complaining that isn't helping. You said your piece, now just wait.
You don't need to make excuses for others.
Monthly could mean "4 weeks". Has it been four weeks yet? What if this was released on June 1st or June 4th? Hardly a serious breach.
And besides, anything below 2 months is fine with me. I've always known they were like this. Complaining about it isn't going to make them go faster. It's pointless. That's my issue. The situation is what it is. There is NOTHING you can do to make it faster, so what's the point? It's annoying the hell out of the rest of us. Just. Shut. Up. Yes, you are right in many respects. No, I don't need to hear it for the 100TH TIME.
They've already announced it will be released in June.
the keyword 'plan' is not about the monthly it is about 5 episodes notice the use of a comma.....
so that to me is saying they may make more episodes...
really?
I'll space it all out to make it easier to understand.
(We have plans for 5 episodes, releasing once per month.)
It means this...
"We have plans for 5 episodes(COMMA)"
So they are planning 5 episodes... rite? follow?
"Releasing once per month"
Meaning each episode will be release every month until the planned 5 are all out.
Wasn't hard now was it?
thats how i interprit it but i know from experience like bttf,
things change
take ink blot tests for example you see what you want to see not everyone will see the same thing..
As for an apology, with the exception of Jurassic Park, they haven't done it before, and I don't think they believe they had to. You ain't having Jurassic Park level delays.
Do you want to tell us that we have not to trust on what Telltale say about their releasing dates unless they promised about that?
This is the first time that Telltale have a delay and they tell it to the customers using a trailer. It's subtle... and rude. This is not because I want the game NOW, I'm patient, but this was not good by Telltale.
I repeat, you can't defend them for this. You're not right. They would have to use the forums and make an announcement telling us that Episode 2 will have a delay.
this message board was designed for gamers to communicate with one another to share ideas and opinions...are you just frustrated most of the comments don't reflect your own? If you're sick and tired about reading the topic about how people are upset, stop coming to the thread.
In the case of "BTTF", it was advertised from the start that there would be a gap between the first 2 episodes, so I was expecting it, but every indication on this was monthly from the FAQ to the Steam description...
That being said, it's disappointing, but not the end of the world - June could mean June 1st for all I know - and I've got plenty of other games to keep me occupied in the meantime.
In my opinion (for what it's worth), TTG do tend to make the "issue" worse by not getting in front of it and addressing it quickly within the community (and I agree, a quick tack on to a preview trailer isn't generally enough) - a short statement "Sorry Guys, due to some 'Problem X", we've seen a slight delay" would go a long way to appeasing some of the more vocal members of the forums - and, hey, as a Customer Service Manager myself, it's not so much as whether someone is "owed" an explanation so much as it is a common courtesy for your customers. In order to ensure repeat business for my customers, I quite often have to offer a "mea culpa" to keep everyone happy if something doesn't go according to plan.
The closest community I can say used to have similar issues was Harmonix & the "Rock Band" series - they (seemingly) used to stick their heads in the sand hoping the complaints would die down whenever something went wrong, but they quickly changed their policy to pro-actively getting the information out to the forums first when they realised the problems wouldn't go away.
A definite yes to the first idea, and a definite no to the second! Frustration has its place on these boards, and when it's communicated in a civil manner, there's nothing wrong in doing it. But you will also have to understand that there are people watching the release date discussion who don't particularly fancy going through complaint after complaint.
What I'm personally getting tired of is people who JUST come here to flame around about the release date(s). When you've reached 44 posts here and, looking back, every single one of those 44 posts were nothing but semi-insulting attacks on Telltale's release schedule, you've misunderstood the purpose of this board entirely - and clearly refuse to be part of a community which wishes to discuss the GAME first and foremost here.
Yup, Telltale staff look into these forums pretty regularly and even post once in a while, but if you want to communicate TO the designers, maybe an email is the better option. For these posters, a thorough reevaluation of their communicative goals would be in order. You're communicating to the community here, and when complaints after complaints are made, members of the community have a right to get bored of it and voice that as well without being told to leave the thread if they don't like it.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm really not that satisfied with Telltale's present communication, but this isn't a broken leg or anything. As you can clearly see from the poll, the moderators have at least pondered the possibility that the second episode might be released early June based on past experience. It bears repeating that moderators have NO inside knowledge, still div has left that window for good reason.
Opposed to many other Telltale games before, the first episode of TWD released rather late in the month (24th). If you're interpreting the term "monthly" as strictly tied to the month names, you'd readily accept up to 60 days between episodes had the first episode released early in the month (for example, April 1st to May 31st would still be considered "monthly" by that definition!). If you're going for a different definition and leave exactly a 31 day maximum between episodes to match "monthly", well, you're probably living quite well on royalties for the invention of nitpicking anyway. Personally, six weeks between episodes would still be pretty monthly for me, and if an episode shifts a bit into the next month, hey, what the heck.
By now, I don't even have reason to bring the term "delay" into the conversation. For all we know, we could still have a poll winner and an episode before June 6th. However, the actual release month could have been communicated with a bit more care, not as a subordinate clause afterthought to a thematically completely different blog entry. As is evident from these forums, release dates matter much to community members, and their eager anticipation is nothing to disregard or even toy with.
We've got a lot of new people here for TWD, and it is understandable that they just can not right away bring the same trust to the company that long term watchers possess by their experience.
I'm not at all worried about the release date here. But I would love to still see a poll winner, because the release date guessing game tradition would be off to an ill start if the second episode would not release before June 6th!
If it comes out in late June then yes it will disprove your point.
Since they had a PLAN of 5 episode that will be released once a month, so you are rite at this time it hasn't been a month.
Only time will tell.
Although, perhaps "kills" isn't the right word for this series...
Joke poster or I just didn't explain my post properly.
Oh I get it from now on whenever I'm asked to, or tell anyone anything it won't hold any merit unless I make a promise :P
Makes sense ill have to try this at work someday, I'm meant to be working Sunday this week but I won't bother to go in since I never actually promised I would, I just said I would...
Great stuff.
So just to clarify, your point is - if somebody ever tells you anything and then doesn't live up to their word it doesn't actually mean they went back on what they've said since they never said 'i promise'
Or does that only count on products you've paid fall price for after being given it's timeframe for release?
Or If I didn't explain properly my fault I'll try again :-s
The quote was "We have plans for 5 episodes, releasing once per month"
Now if they had plans for releasing 5 episodes once a month the quote would have read...
We have plans for 5 episodes releasing once per month
This would indicate that they have PLANS not only for 5 episodes but for them being released once a month.
But insert the comma after 5 episodes means that they only had plans for 5 episodes, Subsequent testing proved that to be not possible so it wont be released once every month AS STATED.
Unless you seriously don't give developers any merit in what they have to say unless they say the word promise within the sentence?
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Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...
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DROPPINGS!
Man: What?
A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME
PUKE!
YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!
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A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!
M: Oh! Oh I see!
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M: Oh...Sorry...
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Wait a minute thats an odd segment of the sketch to use as an example.
I too was disappointed to see a June release was announced, however, as we don't know WHEN in June, I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it. If I did, I'm sure it would be released on June 2nd, and then I'd be forced to acknowledge I acted like a petulant child.
Delays in the video game biz are inevitable, and I've been disappointed before, but after playing episode one, I'm very sure that Ep 2 is well worth the wait.
I do have a dozen other games to play too.
Brother, I am right there with you! LOL... I feel the exact same way.. thank you for having the balls to actually say it.:p
It's not talking about episode 4, that is episode 4 of a video series that talks about the game. Unrelated, I can understand why you'd be confused if you didn't watch or read anything amidst your excitement