Spoilers\ What was your decision on the two brothers?

edited December 2012 in The Walking Dead
I killed them both.

When I finished the game it said only 12% of players killed them..

Were you guys asleep?? They killed and fed you a member of your own group and held the rest of you in a torture chamber and you let them live?!?!?!

I guess I am going to have to rock the impending apocalypse solo then.. weak.
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  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    In the impending Zombie Apocalypse I'm not teaching my Adopted Daughter that it's a dog eat dog world also we didn't loot the car either


    Also it's more ruthless to leave andy to the Walkers
  • edited June 2012
    I killed the first brother but left the other one.


    The reason was because Clementine saw the first one. The other guy was as good as dead anyway.

    Found it quite funny when you see the zombie mother going down the lawn towards the 2nd guy.
  • edited June 2012
    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    Basically I am willing to give people one chance to prove their intentions. The family on the farm made their choice to cut mark up into pieces, and attempt to kill and eat lee, clementine, larry, and all the other survivors in your group eventually. I would say that more than justifies taking them out.

    In some ways the children NEED to learn what the world is like and the proper way to handle things. It is a parents duty to teach their children to survive. If this means taking hard choices and teaching hard lessons, then so be it. The best you can do is try to explain the reasons behind your actions so the children understand why difficult choices need to be made. I explained to clementine that they were bad men and it had to be done. I would say that even a child could understand that after witnessing their other crimes.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    In front of Clementine?
  • edited June 2012
    Killed them both. I figured Clementine would be right there when I killed him, but I did it anyway. Hearing the second brother screaming when I told him his family was dead tore me up so I mercy killed him. It was pretty intense. I later told Clementine that I regretted my decision, and didn't loot the car, so I think I'm patching things up.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    I didn't kill either brother they could have got out together but andy was focused on his cry to the heavens.
  • edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    In the impending Zombie Apocalypse I'm not teaching my Adopted Daughter that it's a dog eat dog world also we didn't loot the car either


    Also it's more ruthless to leave andy to the Walkers

    I threw Andy into an electric fence.. look at Rick and Carl. It is a dog eat dog world. People are more dangerous than walkers.
  • edited June 2012
    On my first play (I go with my gut instinct on the first play) I took them both out AND looted the car. I'm in the *do anything needed to survive* camp.

    Oh yeah.. Also sided with Kenny on the Larry situation.
  • edited June 2012
    Stabbed one guy Shot the other. I don't take no shit. Im nice to clementine but im training her to be a survivalist, and do what ever is neccessary.
  • edited June 2012
    I tryed to be nice but it seemed like killing Larry was a good idea. Hes an ass hole and he was possibly dead. I also killed the 2 brothers because they were gonna kill us and top it off with having use for desert.

    This was WAY more emotional than I thought this game would deliver. I literally almost cried...

    I love you telltale. The wait was a little to long but loved the episode.

    Anyone else kill Larry and the 2 brothers?
  • edited June 2012
    I killed Larry, it was a tough decision to make, but I thought, if he IS dead then we're screwed, and it's better to be safe than sorry.

    I also only killed the first brother, I left the second for the zombies.

    Yeah, I agree this was more emotional than the first episode, it left me with a sour taste in my mouth when I discovered they were harvesting humans.
  • edited June 2012
    I'm playing Lee as if he is Rick. Anyone who fucks with Clem dies.
  • edited June 2012
    I didn't kill either, they were both screwed anyway.
  • edited June 2012
    Killed them both. I figured Clementine would be right there when I killed him, but I did it anyway. Hearing the second brother screaming when I told him his family was dead tore me up so I mercy killed him. It was pretty intense. I later told Clementine that I regretted my decision, and didn't loot the car, so I think I'm patching things up.

    I had the same conversation with Clem after killing only Denny. I did leave Andy to make his own choice about his fate. Denny, I killed in a fit of rage and vengeance. Andy? With everyone watching... I dunno-- I just wanted to get everyone away from the farm and out of the chaos. Without the added peril of the missing characters and without coming off of the decision to save or kill Larry, killing Andy felt too premeditated for me.

    I thought that the characters were all battered and broken by that point, and enough damage had been done. I felt more compelled to walk away.

    I actually do not regret killing Denny, I regret only that Clementine saw it. I felt like I'd been punched in the stomach.
  • edited June 2012
    As Lee pointed out, these guys were mad, but they weren't exactly stupid. Killing both was a win/win

    If they would have died to zombies, it's two less zombies to worry about.

    If they would have survived I don't really need people like that seeking bloody vengance. Or preying on anyone else for that matter.

    Would have done a double tap on the mother as well if the game would have let me.
  • edited June 2012
    DREWBAA wrote: »
    I killed them both.

    When I finished the game it said only 12% of players killed them..

    Were you guys asleep?? They killed and fed you a member of your own group and held the rest of you in a torture chamber and you let them live?!?!?!

    I guess I am going to have to rock the impending apocalypse solo then.. weak.

    Because if you kill him your doing what he wants.

    Its better to leave him sufferinger. Thats basically what it comes down to.

    Let the zombies eat him alive, see how he likes being eaten.
  • edited June 2012
    I killed them both. :D
  • edited June 2012
    Didnt kill a single one, the first i had Lilly to cover my back, the second one, everyone was watching, and i felt horrible for shooting the woman earlier...
  • edited June 2012
    first walkthrough killed one of the brothers the one that got traped in the bear trap i can't remember his name and walked away from the other one at the end and stole the food
  • edited June 2012
    first playthrough i killed only the first brother before realising clem was watching. at which point i wished i didnt. the secend brother i just walked away beacuse it was clear to me that clem was watching, along with the group.
  • edited June 2012
    Gennadios wrote: »

    Would have done a double tap on the mother as well if the game would have let me.

    hahahaha :D
  • edited June 2012
    DREWBAA wrote: »
    I killed them both.

    When I finished the game it said only 12% of players killed them..

    Were you guys asleep?? They killed and fed you a member of your own group and held the rest of you in a torture chamber and you let them live?!?!?!

    I guess I am going to have to rock the impending apocalypse solo then.. weak.

    Same.. I killed them both.. and even crazy chick with the crossbow.. The first moment I had the option to shoot, I did, because she was obviously crazy, armed and threatened to shoot me.
  • edited June 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    Same.. I killed them both.. and even crazy chick with the crossbow.. The first moment I had the option to shoot, I did, because she was obviously crazy, armed and threatened to shoot me.

    but if you stoped to talk to her you would of seen she was trying to tell you that the family was cannibals
  • edited June 2012
    Kill em all!! Let god sort em out!!!
  • edited June 2012
    DREWBAA wrote: »
    Kill em all!! Let god sort em out!!!

    leetatorship!!!!
  • edited June 2012
    DREWBAA wrote: »
    Kill em all!! Let god sort em out!!!

    Whats that a quote from. I fogot.
  • edited June 2012
    I killed Danny before he was even able to finish telling me how I didn't have the nerve to kill him. Followed by an "Oops! Sorry, sweetie" when I realized Clementine was right there.

    I killed Andy as well, which felt less necessary but I was worried he would remain a danger in the future if I didn't deal with him then and there.
  • edited June 2012
    I killed both of them. They knew where our camp was, putting Clem in danger, couldn't just let them walk so they can return and seek revenge. I killed the last one for Mark, he was a good guy who shared his supplies with us, he deserved justice.

    It sucked doing it infront of Clem, but if she has any chance of growing up in such a world, she can't be nieve about things. Like someone else said, I'm trying to teach her how to survive when Lee is gone.
  • edited June 2012
    iamhere wrote: »
    but if you stoped to talk to her you would of seen she was trying to tell you that the family was cannibals

    True, but in the moment, I wasnt going to risk her shooting me or any bandits arriving.. I eliminated the immediate threat and I found out eventually that the family were cannibles. Shoot her or not, the same senerio would have played out and at the end, when watching the video, she was obviously crazy, wanting to take Clem as her daughter. Harsh, maybe, but I'm satisfied was right in the end!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    iamhere wrote: »
    but if you stoped to talk to her you would of seen she was trying to tell you that the family was cannibals
    I made the assumption the brothers were interested in more then cannibalism I am POSITIVE Danny had more bad intentions then just cannibalism and even Andy knew it.


    Andy:We got to pick one to keep and use the others for meat
    Danny: Can I pick which one?
    Andy: Not the girl not enough meat on her.


    Since the picking is who to keep......
  • edited June 2012
    It is important to note that disposing of the cannibalistic family was not something I did out of vengeance or to inflict undue suffering on them. I did it to dispense justice and remove a clear and present danger to my group and other good/innocent survivors that may pass through.
  • edited June 2012
    I killed Danny out of anger and horror, then regretted it. By the time I got to Andy and punched him around a bit, I was apparently emotionally spent and opted to let him live. In retrospect I think I put more blame on Brenda, really -- her boys were just trying to be good sons and let nothing go to waste, like momma always said. :)
  • edited June 2012
    zipp wrote: »
    I tryed to be nice but it seemed like killing Larry was a good idea. Hes an ass hole and he was possibly dead. I also killed the 2 brothers because they were gonna kill us and top it off with having use for desert.

    This was WAY more emotional than I thought this game would deliver. I literally almost cried...

    I love you telltale. The wait was a little to long but loved the episode.

    Anyone else kill Larry and the 2 brothers?

    I did, killed both and Larry, I didn't even give Larry Food at the beginning since I am still pissed at him for knocking me out in ep1.

    I think this game going to be awesome can't wait for more
  • edited June 2012
    Killing a helpless man stuck in a bear trap with a pitchfork? Not happening. The only thing that could've prompted me to go that psychotic was if they'd hurt Clementine. If that ever happens, all bets are off.

    Left the other brother alive as well. The guy was already beaten and was no longer an immediate threat. You've got the entire group watching you and you're a convicted murderer. If the truth about Lee's past ever comes out (and it will), it'd likely set the group at ease knowing from experience you're not a coldblooded murderer, so I think its the smart play in the long run, too.

    I basically feel like all of my actions revolve around the concept of "what's best for Clementine?" She represents the good that's left in the world and why it's worth saving. I'm not about to subject her to more horror through my actions.
  • edited June 2012
    I'm at loss at how these men (+mother) could be allowed to go. We know they've killed at least one person (Mark) by brutally removing his legs. That in itself was enough, but evidence obviously suggests they've killed a lot more (and have admitted as much).

    Why would you even leave to chance that they could escape the zombies (which requires hindsight, btw, so should not have been relevant in your decision-making at the time) and continue after you've left (or even try to hunt you down)? They certainly have shown no remorse whatsoever -- Danny, in fact, has an entire philosophy / justification for it. He's zealous about it.

    Also, leaving them to be eaten is just sadistic -- I suppose there's some poetic justice in it, but I am reminded of a quote:
    "Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
    I think killing them is closest to justice that the characters in the Walking Dead world can achieve -- there are no prisons or courts anymore. Albeit, the pitchfork and the fence would not have been what I would have picked, but I guess you have to allow some leeway for dramatic effect.

    And child or no, there's really no reason to shelter Clementine. I don't understand what one would hoping to protect -- Lee's image as a father-figure? I think one would be doing her a disservice (and possibly a danger) to keep her ignorant rather than try to educate her about the world as-it-is. Lee and / or the other survivors will likely not be around forever.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    Your very quote is Lee's mentality with the pitchfork in the hay. He wont become a monster even in this new world.
  • edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Your very quote is Lee's mentality with the pitchfork in the hay. He wont become a monster even in this new world.

    I assume you mean if Lee spares Danny? The quote was in reference to preferring others suffer vs. a quick death, but to address the point in your context:

    There is no law enforement, no courts, no government. Survivors will have to band together in order to rebuild society.

    If there was a better choice to serve justice, I'm all ears.

    I understand the conventional belief is mercy = right, but that belief requires a functional civilization. Mercy in this case is letting confirmed killer(s) loose upon the world.

    By sparing them, you are risking they commit further crimes. It may not be the place of men to judge other men or to take their lives into our hands (or their free will) and, indeed -- that is a problem that we face on a daily basis, but it is a problem that must be faced in order to have society as we know it.

    They say Lady Justice is blind, but I'm partial to the interpretation that she is peeking--because true objectivity is not in the grasp of mere mortals.

    There is no law enforcement to stop these men (and mother). Would you loose them upon the world were there not a zombie apocalypse or would you turn them over to the authorities? What happens when there are no authorities, no society from which to achieve a consensus or judgement?

    Do we trust in a higher power to make it right?

    We can argue that life and death is not in the pervue of men, but God or karma or some other force -- but I am afraid I'm not interested in a religious or metaphysical debate, so I'll just have to politely disagree.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    It really comes down to Hope.

    If you believe the world has completely ended and it's time for a new dark ages then kill them.

    If you believe that we can rebuild the world from this disaster and that one day things will get back to normal with barbecues and birthday parties then you should spare him
  • edited June 2012
    macil wrote: »
    And child or no, there's really no reason to shelter Clementine. I don't understand what one would hoping to protect -- Lee's image as a father-figure? I think one would be doing her a disservice (and possibly a danger) to keep her ignorant rather than try to educate her about the world as-it-is. Lee and / or the other survivors will likely not be around forever.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. Clementine's already seen horrific stuff and the world's clearly gone to hell, so I understand where you're coming from saying she'll have to learn to cope with the new status quo. She's already living in fear enough as it is without looking at Lee as just another monster in a world of them, though.

    I don't play Lee as someone trying to delude Clementine into believing things are better than they are (she's too smart for that), but what's the point of saving the human race if you sacrifice your humanity in the process? Your Nietzsche quote essentially sums up the rationale behind my choices.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. Clementine's already seen horrific stuff and the world's clearly gone to hell, so I understand where you're coming from saying she'll have to learn to cope with the new status quo. She's already living in fear enough as it is without looking at Lee as just another monster in a world of them, though.

    I don't play Lee as someone trying to delude Clementine into believing things are better than they are (she's too smart for that), but what's the point of saving the human race if you sacrifice your humanity in the process? Your Nietzsche quote essentially sums up the rationale behind my choices.

    Didn't Shepard say that to Illusive Man in ME3
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