If the zombies hadn't come, I like to think that once the group was back together and we knew everyone was safe, we would have gone back into that barn, tied up Danny and Andy, and dragged them back to the motel to decide their fate. Then, if the group decided on execution, it would have been done right - by standing them up in front of everybody with nooses around their necks and listing their crimes before kicking the chairs out from under them.
That would be justice. Killing someone with a pitchfork in a barn out of anger is just murder. It's important to hold on to that distinction, especially in a zombie apocalypse.
Or had decided their fate at the barn after catching both. No need to risk dragging them back to the Motel. But just decide as a group what should be done to them stead of killing them cold blood.
It's amazing how quickly some people are willing to switch over to a frontier justice system when the world ends. It's only been three months, for crying out loud,
Very true, it's ONLY been 3 months and thing's are getting worse everyday.
We're starving, we have bandit's, cannibles more and more zombies!!
Hold out if you wish in hope that thing's will get better, but I would expect things to get worse and feel you must do what you can to survive.
Sure I don't want Clem to see Lee as being a cold-hearted killer, but My Lee would have to sit and talk to her and explain how the world has become and what it takes to survive. And I am doing the best I can, even willing to admit I'll make mistakes, Sorry but this is my first zombie apoc so if killing both brothers or stealing the food from a abandoned car was not 'right' I'll so stand in the corner for an hour. At least I can stand and i'll be eating some twinkies in the corner!
Or had decided their fate at the barn after catching both. No need to risk dragging them back to the Motel. But just decide as a group what should be done to them stead of killing them cold blood.
When the last cannibal asked about his family, I didn't say anything. Then he begged me to kill him too and I walked away. I love it when silence as a response is better than any other choice.
"Just you wait until the rest of my family shows up! You're gonna get it, Lee!"
"..."
Very true, it's ONLY been 3 months and thing's are getting worse everyday.
We're starving, we have bandit's, cannibles more and more zombies!!
Hold out if you wish in hope that thing's will get better, but I would expect things to get worse and feel you must do what you can to survive.
Sure I don't want Clem to see Lee as being a cold-hearted killer, but My Lee would have to sit and talk to her and explain how the world has become and what it takes to survive. And I am doing the best I can, even willing to admit I'll make mistakes, Sorry but this is my first zombie apoc so if killing both brothers or stealing the food from a abandoned car was not 'right' I'll so stand in the corner for an hour. At least I can stand and i'll be eating some twinkies in the corner!
I think the game changer happens when you learn that everyone, regardless of being bitten, is going to turn into a Walker when they die. This is no longer a situation that you can "wait out".
When the last cannibal asked about his family, I didn't say anything. Then he begged me to kill him too and I walked away. I love it when silence as a response is better than any other choice.
"Just you wait until the rest of my family shows up! You're gonna get it, Lee!"
"..."
I told him that they weren't coming, not that they were dead (only Brenda got munched his brother was still there) and then walked off silently while he started asking me what I meant, same result and I love it.
Or had decided their fate at the barn after catching both. No need to risk dragging them back to the Motel. But just decide as a group what should be done to them stead of killing them cold blood.
But I agree with you completely.
This is why I couldn't kill them. Vengeance is not the proper justification for death, and I think it's clear that the threat the St. John's were is dwindling (if this isn't apparent with the first brother, it should be painfully clear by the time you have a choice to kill the second one).
When the first brother went off on his wild tangent about "giving of himself" for the greater good, I just couldn't do it. When I found out that Clem was watching, I felt conflicted. I had told her that the person I killed before was a bad man, and yet here was a bad man and I didn't kill him.
Seeing as how I spared the first brother, I couldn't kill the second, especially when looking back at the group, who was clearly just ready to leave, and not at all interested in exercising "justice".
It is not about revenge. None of my posts said anything about revenge. My Lee disposed of the cannibal family for the reasons I stated. To protect himself, his loved ones, and the other good people in society from a proven and deadly danger.
If I were Lee, I would not be angry at the cannibal family. I would instead be angry at myself for not being prepared. Lee and everyone else in the group should always be armed. They should stick together and be ready to defend each other. Just as everyone should be at all times.
The motto 'Be Prepared' is not just about wearing shoes. It is about being as ready and able as possible for whatever situations life may throw at you. Criminals do not make appointments, neither do we wait till the moments before an automobile accident to put on our seat belts. Everyone should be armed, trained, and able to defend their lives at all times.
Andy alive is the biggest threat so far in the game.
He can walk, he can outrun zombies, he can pick up a rifle, he knows where you are, he can shoot you in the head or any member in your group.
What does he have to lose? Farm is lost, his mother is a walker, his brothers status is unknown unless you killed him. Andy was not incapacitated, but i think he is pissed off.
He is the kind of person that if you get a chanse to dispose of him, you do it. And so what if Clementine sees it? Shes living in the world of walking dead. Might as well toughen her up, and she knew Andy was bad.
Clementine asked Lee in episode one, if he could kill the bad/dangerous ones.
Well, i(Lee) did. And ill do it again. And hopefully one day, sooner rather than later. Clementine will toughen up, shes no longer a first grader, thats for sure.
I regret stealing the food in the car much more than offing the brothers.
I killed the 1st Brother, [REASON] He shot the woman with the crossbow. I left the 2nd Brother [REASON] His sins is paid in full when the Walkers got him- I walk away...I'm sure I've learned good lessons in Zombies Survival
I didn't kill the first one (Danny) because in my eyes he was already dead. The bandteacher died pretty quickly after you cut his leg off and seeing as how it was the same trap that's the only way he's going to get out of it. So he's dead anyway. Either the walkers get him eventually or he dies from blood loss or hunger. He's a goner. I figured killing him with a pitchfork would take a little bit longer than just walking away (wasn't the case in hindsight but meh, that's hindsight) so I pressed the bale of hay pretty quickly. After all, Katjaa, Kenny and Duck still needed my help.
With the second brother I figured he was already dead too. The walkers are coming for him and we really needed to get out of there. In my eyes there was no time for justice and I didn't want to risk it. (in hindsight it would have been fine and I would have had the time to get everyone away safely but again, hindsight.)
I didn't take the food because I thought it was a trap. A completely abandonded car filled with food that wasn't there earlier while you know the only two groups other than yours nearby are either the bandits or the Cannibals that are now getting chomped on? It just seemed suspicious to me. You are obviously taking the same road back to the motor inn and that car wasn't there earlier. Meaning that whoever was in it was still nearby and I didn't want to risk getting another crazy person after all of us attracting the zombies attention.
though to be honest, after they started looting the damn thing I wanted to go "oh fine...food is food." since it apparently wasn't a trap nor was anyone running towards us screaming bloody murder. However there was no option for that. Nor was there an option to at least tell the group to look around a little for the owner. Because that's what I would have done. Can't find the guy/girl? Obviously they are dead because you can't hear anything and no one would leave that car un-attended with the doors wide open if they were peachy fine.
The first one was more psycho and was about to kill me seconds before! so i killed him for good!
Sorry that clem watched it (probaly not killed if she was close)
The second brother after the first few punches i prefer to walk away and ignored him, no way i kill him with everyone watching (this scene have a very similar one in the comics where Rick smash with punches a murderer head)
I spared the first brother(Danny was it?) because I initially was unaware of the state of both Kajaa and Duck, and was hoping to use him as leverage if necessary. Killing him while the St. Johns still held two members of my group was too risky for me to consider. Did no one else think the same?
The second brother I left alive probably cause I knew hes was finished. In hindsight I probably should've finished him to be sure, but I didn't.
For those of you who killed both brothers out of group, or self preservation I can see where you are coming from, and would probably agree with you most of the time. However, if you quickly turn to violence, and you happen come across another group who shares the same opinion and things escalate for whatever reason you could get a lot of people on both sides killed where a calmer head might prevail.
People have misunderstandings every day, and I can only imagine how much worse I could get if people are no risking their lives everyday trying to survive. I think a balance must be struck between showing compassion, or at least tolerance, and letting people know were the line cannot be crossed.
Again I'm not using the St. Johns as an example of just be nice. Also,despite my decision to show some mercy towards the brothers I would probably find myself becoming less, and less sympathetic towards other potentially hostile groups as time went on.
I spared both of them, but killed Larry pretty damn quick.
Lilly was pretty pissed, suffice to say.
I did the same thing... Kinda Irritates me that under the "Revenge" stats it says that I left 1 of the brothers alive... (when I clearly left both alive!)
I spared the first brother(Danny was it?) because I initially was unaware of the state of both Kajaa and Duck, and was hoping to use him as leverage if necessary. Killing him while the St. Johns still held two members of my group was too risky for me to consider. Did no one else think the same?
The second brother I left alive probably cause I knew hes was finished. In hindsight I probably should've finished him to be sure, but I didn't.
For those of you who killed both brothers out of group, or self preservation I can see where you are coming from, and would probably agree with you most of the time. However, if you quickly turn to violence, and you happen come across another group who shares the same opinion and things escalate for whatever reason you could get a lot of people on both sides killed where a calmer head might prevail.
People have misunderstandings every day, and I can only imagine how much worse I could get if people are no risking their lives everyday trying to survive. I think a balance must be struck between showing compassion, or at least tolerance, and letting people know were the line cannot be crossed.
Again I'm not using the St. Johns as an example of just be nice. Also,despite my decision to show some mercy towards the brothers I would probably find myself becoming less, and less sympathetic towards other potentially hostile groups as time went on.
This is a very well thought out post. One thing that I would like to point out about the St. John's is perhaps more justice is served by leaving them alive than by killing them (poetic justice anyway). I chose not to kill the first brother because, based on what he was saying while I held a pitchfork to his head, he truly didn't understand that what he was doing was wrong. In fact, he thought that being killed by Lee was some glorious perpetuation of what he believed to be an inevitable cycle (a sort of f***ed up Circle of Life).
The other brother comes to the realization that his way of life is gone - that his idyllic existence in the midst of the apocalypse is shattered (or perhaps, was never quite so ideal in the first place).
I might have worried more about them acting in retribution, if I hadn't then seen the army of Walkers descending down upon the Farm. Now I know I made the right choice.
i actually enjoyed killing the st. johns on my canon playthrough [kenny bro all the way] because when clem confronts me i admit it i was angry and scared and feel guilty. but most importantly you teacher that you only kill if you absolutely must.
I didn't kill the first brother, Danny, to prove his point he was trying to make wrong. Besides, he was defeated already and didn't pose a danger for Clementine (I'll kill anything that poses a danger to Clementine).
I didn't kill the second brother mostly because everybody was watching. Felt weird. Although, hearing Andy screaming 'LEEEEEEE!!!!!' kinda made me feel really bad for him... I was wondering if I should reload and mercy kill him, but, well, decided not to, I won't redo anything on my first playthrough.
Left Danny alive for three reasons; Leverage for the other St Johns, he posed no threat to my group while trapped and disarmed and because he was trying to goad me into killing him.
Left Andy alive because he was clearly a non threat at the end, disarmed and with his face broken in, his family dead or immobilized. I believe leaving him alive was the more vicious decision, letting the dead flood in to finishing him off as he gave in to crippling despair over his family being gone and his beloved farm falling to the horde.
Although i'll say this, if I had the opportunity to kill either of them at the dinner scene while my party was being held hostage I would have been more then willing. (I used the "I'LL KILL YOU") option when Andy grabbed Clementine.
Would be awesome if Andy comes back in episode 3 and kills Clementine, just because you let him live.
And the last thing she say to you is. "You promised you would kill the dangerous ones, why didnt you?"
But they were stopped. It's not like we left them to keep doing what they were doing. We left them to face the walkers. In my play through, Danny is stuck in a rigged bear trap in the barn, Brenda is already zombified and Andy has been beaten and electrocuted until he could barely stand up. That's hardly the same as leaving them to continue their evil ways.
Now it's true, I didn't know the walkers were coming when I left Danny alive in that barn, but that doesn't mean I was leaving him to keep killing people. If the zombies hadn't come, I like to think that once the group was back together and we knew everyone was safe, we would have gone back into that barn, tied up Danny and Andy, and dragged them back to the motel to decide their fate. Then, if the group decided on execution, it would have been done right - by standing them up in front of everybody with nooses around their necks and listing their crimes before kicking the chairs out from under them.
That would be justice. Killing someone with a pitchfork in a barn out of anger is just murder. It's important to hold on to that distinction, especially in a zombie apocalypse.
I understand some of what you're saying, but I didn't quite have the hindsight in my playthrough to really think things through to that extent, though I don't know that it would have mattered.
I had no idea the walkers were gonna storm the farm. People have certainly survived being caught in a bear trap, and Andy only seemed to be somewhat incapacitated. It seemed quite likely at the time that both or either of them could make a full recovery if left alive, and that was just a risk that couldn't be taken. There are children to protect not to mention anyone else who might cross their path, like that poor woman and her daughter.
I didn't actually have Lee kill the first brother out of anger. I paused to think about it to ensure I wasn't just reacting to him having attempted to kill me. The decision was helped by what he was saying...it made me realize his outlook was too twisted and dangerous to be left alone to continue.
That said, I do understand and can appreciate your reasoning.
I killed Danny to avenge Mark, Larry, and all the other people they'd captured and eaten (obviously the bear traps weren't rigged that way for trapping bears).
I didn't want to have to worry about him when I went to confront the rest of the St John's family, and somehow, his dementia just made me want to put him out of his misery.
I let Andy live, because it looked like the group needed me to stop. They'd seen enough death already at that point, and it seemed the writers gave me more time to weigh the action out. Danny was a more impulsive kill, driven by fear and anger. With Andy, they made you look back at everybody, and it gave me pause.
I spared them both. I was not about to kill people in front of the little girl.
I have a feeling that how Lee behaves in front of her will decide how she treats Lee at the end of the last episode.
Who knows maybe in some twist it will be Clem who gets to protect Lee and decides his fate. And based on how you behaved in front of her and treated her Chem will decide if Lee lives or dies at the end of the game.
Editor.
For clarity. If you show brutal survivalist 'everyman for himself' traits in front of Clem then that is how she will treat Lee when he needs her help the most
If Lee show's hope and compassion for others then that is the trait she will show for Lee.
Well the people who didn't kill them can live on believing they made the right choice and the people who did kill them can live on believing that they made the right choice and we will just have to see how it plays out in the story
(The 18% of us that killed the brothers have what it takes to survive in zombie-apocalypse world, the other 82% will soon find out there's no room for being soft or having morals )
look how that approach worked for shaun in the tv series lol.
Killed Danny completely on impulse. I'd felt trapped at that farm for the entire episode and I blamed that family 100% for everything I'd been forced to do up to that point. I also savagely beat Andy until he had no teeth left, but in the end I walked away from him, he was done anyway and I felt it was crueler to leave him suffering from the loss of his family.
i spared the first one's life by accident....:D i saw the hay and i said to myself what that'll do...? so he lives...
and i didn't kill the other one because Clementine saw me spare the 1st one's life so i said i shouldn't kill him in front of everyone else....so yeah (but i turned his face into a rainbow...)
Killed Danny. Mostly because he was basically say 'bet you won't' to me, so I decided to prove him wrong. Ended up regretting it because Clementine was there, but I didn't reload or anything.
Spared Andy. Didn't even beat him up or anything. Just left him there. Felt kinda bad when I told him his family wasn't coming. He looked like his world just came crashing down, which, in a sense, it did.
those who killed em both i hope clem shoots your lee because of your own reasonings
i spared them in my 'first' playthrough on the principle of clem would witness it and there fore be bit worried about lee, (boy is she freaked out when you do).
they are cannibals and therefore to be eaten alive is justice for mark n larry.
plus why would anyone kill infront of a young 'innocent girl' ?? yes she was there with larry but she hid and only heard and i tried to save larry..
plus why would anyone kill infront of a young 'innocent girl' ?? yes she was there with larry but she hid and only heard and i tried to save larry..
I made a promise to kill the dangerous ones in episode 1.
So i did and killed Danny and Andy. No they will never grab Clem or put a bullet trough her spine.
I made a promise to kill the dangerous ones in episode 1.
So i did and killed Danny and Andy. No they will never grab Clem or put a bullet trough her spine.
i wondered if maybe Clementine will kill you for being a dangerous one, or kill kenny for killing larry (if you side with lilly), the lessons you teach her are still open for interpretation in her mind and they may bite you in the ass.
I left them both alive. Danny wasn't a threat anymore and he wasn't going anywhere. I figured there'd be zombies in the area anyways, since Brenda said zombies started coming around the place after dark as-is, and I figured the shooting was going to attract a group. After seeing the first walker upon leaving the barn, I figured I made the right choice.
Between incoming zombies, and the fact there were bandits in the area just a few hours earlier, I figured it was a place the group didn't need to be at any longer than absolutely necessary. Having a living, breathing Andy screaming pathetically in the rain to draw attention away from the group as we left was just an unintended bonus.
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So them getting eaten alive by zombies was more closer to justice than choosing Lee to do it. Though I did this to the second one only.
Or had decided their fate at the barn after catching both. No need to risk dragging them back to the Motel. But just decide as a group what should be done to them stead of killing them cold blood.
But I agree with you completely.
Very true, it's ONLY been 3 months and thing's are getting worse everyday.
We're starving, we have bandit's, cannibles more and more zombies!!
Hold out if you wish in hope that thing's will get better, but I would expect things to get worse and feel you must do what you can to survive.
Sure I don't want Clem to see Lee as being a cold-hearted killer, but My Lee would have to sit and talk to her and explain how the world has become and what it takes to survive. And I am doing the best I can, even willing to admit I'll make mistakes, Sorry but this is my first zombie apoc so if killing both brothers or stealing the food from a abandoned car was not 'right' I'll so stand in the corner for an hour. At least I can stand and i'll be eating some twinkies in the corner!
And I agree with you both!
Andy: AAAGHH I'm being run over by a tiller.
Lee: How the hell did Duck get an run down tiller across the farm to run over him?
Duck: I'm the Foreman!
"Just you wait until the rest of my family shows up! You're gonna get it, Lee!"
"..."
I think the game changer happens when you learn that everyone, regardless of being bitten, is going to turn into a Walker when they die. This is no longer a situation that you can "wait out".
I told him that they weren't coming, not that they were dead (only Brenda got munched his brother was still there) and then walked off silently while he started asking me what I meant, same result and I love it.
This is why I couldn't kill them. Vengeance is not the proper justification for death, and I think it's clear that the threat the St. John's were is dwindling (if this isn't apparent with the first brother, it should be painfully clear by the time you have a choice to kill the second one).
When the first brother went off on his wild tangent about "giving of himself" for the greater good, I just couldn't do it. When I found out that Clem was watching, I felt conflicted. I had told her that the person I killed before was a bad man, and yet here was a bad man and I didn't kill him.
Seeing as how I spared the first brother, I couldn't kill the second, especially when looking back at the group, who was clearly just ready to leave, and not at all interested in exercising "justice".
If I were Lee, I would not be angry at the cannibal family. I would instead be angry at myself for not being prepared. Lee and everyone else in the group should always be armed. They should stick together and be ready to defend each other. Just as everyone should be at all times.
The motto 'Be Prepared' is not just about wearing shoes. It is about being as ready and able as possible for whatever situations life may throw at you. Criminals do not make appointments, neither do we wait till the moments before an automobile accident to put on our seat belts. Everyone should be armed, trained, and able to defend their lives at all times.
He can walk, he can outrun zombies, he can pick up a rifle, he knows where you are, he can shoot you in the head or any member in your group.
What does he have to lose? Farm is lost, his mother is a walker, his brothers status is unknown unless you killed him. Andy was not incapacitated, but i think he is pissed off.
He is the kind of person that if you get a chanse to dispose of him, you do it. And so what if Clementine sees it? Shes living in the world of walking dead. Might as well toughen her up, and she knew Andy was bad.
Clementine asked Lee in episode one, if he could kill the bad/dangerous ones.
Well, i(Lee) did. And ill do it again. And hopefully one day, sooner rather than later. Clementine will toughen up, shes no longer a first grader, thats for sure.
I regret stealing the food in the car much more than offing the brothers.
With the second brother I figured he was already dead too. The walkers are coming for him and we really needed to get out of there. In my eyes there was no time for justice and I didn't want to risk it. (in hindsight it would have been fine and I would have had the time to get everyone away safely but again, hindsight.)
I didn't take the food because I thought it was a trap. A completely abandonded car filled with food that wasn't there earlier while you know the only two groups other than yours nearby are either the bandits or the Cannibals that are now getting chomped on? It just seemed suspicious to me. You are obviously taking the same road back to the motor inn and that car wasn't there earlier. Meaning that whoever was in it was still nearby and I didn't want to risk getting another crazy person after all of us attracting the zombies attention.
though to be honest, after they started looting the damn thing I wanted to go "oh fine...food is food." since it apparently wasn't a trap nor was anyone running towards us screaming bloody murder. However there was no option for that. Nor was there an option to at least tell the group to look around a little for the owner. Because that's what I would have done. Can't find the guy/girl? Obviously they are dead because you can't hear anything and no one would leave that car un-attended with the doors wide open if they were peachy fine.
Sorry that clem watched it (probaly not killed if she was close)
The second brother after the first few punches i prefer to walk away and ignored him, no way i kill him with everyone watching (this scene have a very similar one in the comics where Rick smash with punches a murderer head)
Lilly was pretty pissed, suffice to say.
The second brother I left alive probably cause I knew hes was finished. In hindsight I probably should've finished him to be sure, but I didn't.
For those of you who killed both brothers out of group, or self preservation I can see where you are coming from, and would probably agree with you most of the time. However, if you quickly turn to violence, and you happen come across another group who shares the same opinion and things escalate for whatever reason you could get a lot of people on both sides killed where a calmer head might prevail.
People have misunderstandings every day, and I can only imagine how much worse I could get if people are no risking their lives everyday trying to survive. I think a balance must be struck between showing compassion, or at least tolerance, and letting people know were the line cannot be crossed.
Again I'm not using the St. Johns as an example of just be nice. Also,despite my decision to show some mercy towards the brothers I would probably find myself becoming less, and less sympathetic towards other potentially hostile groups as time went on.
I did the same thing... Kinda Irritates me that under the "Revenge" stats it says that I left 1 of the brothers alive... (when I clearly left both alive!)
This is a very well thought out post. One thing that I would like to point out about the St. John's is perhaps more justice is served by leaving them alive than by killing them (poetic justice anyway). I chose not to kill the first brother because, based on what he was saying while I held a pitchfork to his head, he truly didn't understand that what he was doing was wrong. In fact, he thought that being killed by Lee was some glorious perpetuation of what he believed to be an inevitable cycle (a sort of f***ed up Circle of Life).
The other brother comes to the realization that his way of life is gone - that his idyllic existence in the midst of the apocalypse is shattered (or perhaps, was never quite so ideal in the first place).
I might have worried more about them acting in retribution, if I hadn't then seen the army of Walkers descending down upon the Farm. Now I know I made the right choice.
I didn't kill the second brother mostly because everybody was watching. Felt weird. Although, hearing Andy screaming 'LEEEEEEE!!!!!' kinda made me feel really bad for him... I was wondering if I should reload and mercy kill him, but, well, decided not to, I won't redo anything on my first playthrough.
Left Andy alive because he was clearly a non threat at the end, disarmed and with his face broken in, his family dead or immobilized. I believe leaving him alive was the more vicious decision, letting the dead flood in to finishing him off as he gave in to crippling despair over his family being gone and his beloved farm falling to the horde.
Although i'll say this, if I had the opportunity to kill either of them at the dinner scene while my party was being held hostage I would have been more then willing. (I used the "I'LL KILL YOU") option when Andy grabbed Clementine.
And the last thing she say to you is. "You promised you would kill the dangerous ones, why didnt you?"
I understand some of what you're saying, but I didn't quite have the hindsight in my playthrough to really think things through to that extent, though I don't know that it would have mattered.
I had no idea the walkers were gonna storm the farm. People have certainly survived being caught in a bear trap, and Andy only seemed to be somewhat incapacitated. It seemed quite likely at the time that both or either of them could make a full recovery if left alive, and that was just a risk that couldn't be taken. There are children to protect not to mention anyone else who might cross their path, like that poor woman and her daughter.
I didn't actually have Lee kill the first brother out of anger. I paused to think about it to ensure I wasn't just reacting to him having attempted to kill me. The decision was helped by what he was saying...it made me realize his outlook was too twisted and dangerous to be left alone to continue.
That said, I do understand and can appreciate your reasoning.
I didn't want to have to worry about him when I went to confront the rest of the St John's family, and somehow, his dementia just made me want to put him out of his misery.
I let Andy live, because it looked like the group needed me to stop. They'd seen enough death already at that point, and it seemed the writers gave me more time to weigh the action out. Danny was a more impulsive kill, driven by fear and anger. With Andy, they made you look back at everybody, and it gave me pause.
I have a feeling that how Lee behaves in front of her will decide how she treats Lee at the end of the last episode.
Who knows maybe in some twist it will be Clem who gets to protect Lee and decides his fate. And based on how you behaved in front of her and treated her Chem will decide if Lee lives or dies at the end of the game.
Editor.
For clarity. If you show brutal survivalist 'everyman for himself' traits in front of Clem then that is how she will treat Lee when he needs her help the most
If Lee show's hope and compassion for others then that is the trait she will show for Lee.
look how that approach worked for shaun in the tv series lol.
I assume you mean Shane. Rick becomes much, much worse than Shane in that sense.
and i didn't kill the other one because Clementine saw me spare the 1st one's life so i said i shouldn't kill him in front of everyone else....so yeah (but i turned his face into a rainbow...)
Spared Andy. Didn't even beat him up or anything. Just left him there. Felt kinda bad when I told him his family wasn't coming. He looked like his world just came crashing down, which, in a sense, it did.
i spared them in my 'first' playthrough on the principle of clem would witness it and there fore be bit worried about lee, (boy is she freaked out when you do).
they are cannibals and therefore to be eaten alive is justice for mark n larry.
plus why would anyone kill infront of a young 'innocent girl' ?? yes she was there with larry but she hid and only heard and i tried to save larry..
I made a promise to kill the dangerous ones in episode 1.
So i did and killed Danny and Andy. No they will never grab Clem or put a bullet trough her spine.
i wondered if maybe Clementine will kill you for being a dangerous one, or kill kenny for killing larry (if you side with lilly), the lessons you teach her are still open for interpretation in her mind and they may bite you in the ass.
Between incoming zombies, and the fact there were bandits in the area just a few hours earlier, I figured it was a place the group didn't need to be at any longer than absolutely necessary. Having a living, breathing Andy screaming pathetically in the rain to draw attention away from the group as we left was just an unintended bonus.