Doctor Who: Series 5 (/31) Discussion

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  • edited May 2010
    My guess is
    she killed captin jack XD

    That would be pretty awesome... and he IS from that time frame. Might also explain why he's missing three years of his memories... or maybe not. Anyway, it probably won't happen because "time can be rewritten"
  • edited May 2010
    That would be pretty awesome... and he IS from that time frame. Might also explain why he's missing three years of his memories... or maybe not. Anyway, it probably won't happen because "time can be rewritten"
    I think it would make sense, given that Moffat created Jack in the first place, and revealed that bit of his past was missing. He obviously intended to go back to it at some point.
  • edited May 2010
    This was an awesome, awesome episode. That is all.
  • edited May 2010
    about the angels
    these ones are much more agresive then blink ones and way more pychopathic and even have persnalatys kinda when they laughed at the doctor and tourted amy just 4 fun and they where killing ppl seeminly for the fun insted of displacing in time since they didnt need to due to the ship and cracks energy its sorta like the daleks first apperance where weak and couldnt leave the city compared to there 2nd apperence where they took over eath a vast improvment over there powers and fear factor in both cases
  • edited May 2010
    Flesh and Stone was my fav episode of series Fnarg

    yarg. that was prolly the hyphiest episode i've seen in awhile...
    what did river say at the end? Pandorica?

    and i got my money on river and the doctor... sometimes obvious is how they roll.
  • edited May 2010
    about the angels
    these ones are much more agresive then blink ones and way more pychopathic and even have persnalatys kinda when they laughed at the doctor and tourted amy just 4 fun and they where killing ppl seeminly for the fun insted of displacing in time since they didnt need to due to the ship and cracks energy its sorta like the daleks first apperance where weak and couldnt leave the city compared to there 2nd apperence where they took over eath a vast improvment over there powers and fear factor in both cases

    I'm sure there are clearer, shorter sentences in Raintree County. I have no idea what you just said.
  • edited May 2010
    Kroms wrote: »
    I'm sure there are clearer, shorter sentences in Raintree County. I have no idea what you just said.

    Comparing Angels and Daleks
    Angel more evil then before. The second episode to feature daleks where more evil then first.
  • edited May 2010
    One interesting thing that I noticed during this episode was when the Doctor was telling Amy to trust him. In the scene directly before, he pats her head and leaves. Then, he comes back, tells her to trust him and asks her what he told her when he first met her but, he's wearing the jacket that he lost with the Weeping Angels.

    I think that the second appearance was a version of the Doctor from the future, possibly when the Pandorica opens.
  • edited May 2010
    or it's a continuity error.
  • edited May 2010
    From the way that scene was shot, I'd doubt it.
  • edited May 2010
    Yeah, there have been several such "continuity errors" so far in this series (like the old new looking cars in the twenty-first century and Rory's hospital badge). Either Moffat is really lazy (I doubt it) or it's leading up to something in the finale.
  • edited May 2010
    I honestly had the feeling the Doctor's return was really significant. It really felt too out of place for the Doctor to just come back after he already assured Amy he's coming back. He also sounded a lot calmer then. Also, he wouldn't just leave River and Father Octavian just to tell Amy this, especially when they're short on time. And there was also something Angel Bob said, but I can't really remember what, so I'll leave that aside.
  • edited May 2010
    Remolay wrote: »
    or it's a continuity error.

    I don't think so. That scene was shot in the forest. There are no scenes in the forest where the doctor wheres his jacket, so it's reasonable to conclude that they wouldn't have needed to take it their in the first place for filming otherwise.
  • edited May 2010
    Overall, I really liked Victory of the Daleks. But there are two things bugging me.

    1.
    What do they mean by "Eternal" Dalek?

    2.
    How did the Dalek Paradigm know the android created by the Old Daleks could be used as a bomb?
  • edited May 2010
    SwordKing wrote: »
    Overall, I really liked Victory of the Daleks. But there are two things bugging me.

    1.
    What do they mean by "Eternal" Dalek?

    2.
    How did the Dalek Paradigm know the android created by the Old Daleks could be used as a bomb?

    1) I don't the writers even know yet. They wanted to name them all, bur couldn't think of another class, so just named it that.

    2) I woulkd imagine they downloaded the knowledge from a database, Cybermen style.
  • edited May 2010
    SwordKing wrote: »
    Overall, I really liked Victory of the Daleks. But there are two things bugging me.

    1.
    What do they mean by "Eternal" Dalek?

    2.
    How did the Dalek Paradigm know the android created by the Old Daleks could be used as a bomb?

    Maybe an Eternal Dalek makes other Daleks? Cause there's only five right now, and they would probably need more than one drone at least.
  • edited May 2010
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    I found it particularly eerie to see
    the Angels finally move
    . Right before
    Amy gets teleported away
    .

    I am also very curious as to
    what the deal with Amy is
    .
    The Angels actually moving gave me a very small *squee* moment. I'm not proud of that.

    Amy. Ah. Spoiler time!
    Amy is destined to do something in the future. But the Doctor, by meeting her, taking her away and showing her the universe, has changed this. She's a different person now, and will do things differently as a result. And this is an extremely not good thing. Time can be rewritten, but with consequences - the crack, for example. And the Doctor has realised this, which is why he's going to take Amy back to meet Rory, her fiancée (as seen in the preview of Vampires in Venice, which is one hell of a spoiler-y title, but now I'm getting off-topic). He doesn't know what important thing Amy is supposed to do, but I suspect that the episode AFTER this weeks, titled 'Amy's Choice', will probably shine more light on that.

    Although I'm not intimate with the full story, I suspect (though I may be WAY off base here) that we're going to end up with something similar to the Charley Pollard arc* from the Big Finish audios. Only without the Time Lords around, it's not just anti-matter this time round - the universe is cracking. And as the non-existence of the Weeping Angels proved, that could be an incredibly bad thing indeed.

    *The 8th Doctor-Charley Pollard arc where he saved her from dying aboard the R-101 and changed history as a result, not the 6th Doctor-Charley Pollard arc which gets a wee bit weird. Wibbly wobbly timey wimmey and all that.
  • edited May 2010
    The Angels actually moving gave me a very small *squee* moment. I'm not proud of that.

    Amy. Ah. Spoiler time!
    Amy is destined to do something in the future. But the Doctor, by meeting her, taking her away and showing her the universe, has changed this. She's a different person now, and will do things differently as a result. And this is an extremely not good thing. Time can be rewritten, but with consequences - the crack, for example. And the Doctor has realised this, which is why he's going to take Amy back to meet Rory, her fiancée (as seen in the preview of Vampires in Venice, which is one hell of a spoiler-y title, but now I'm getting off-topic). He doesn't know what important thing Amy is supposed to do, but I suspect that the episode AFTER this weeks, titled 'Amy's Choice', will probably shine more light on that.

    Although I'm not intimate with the full story, I suspect (though I may be WAY off base here) that we're going to end up with something similar to the Charley Pollard arc* from the Big Finish audios. Only without the Time Lords around, it's not just anti-matter this time round - the universe is cracking. And as the non-existence of the Weeping Angels proved, that could be an incredibly bad thing indeed.

    *The 8th Doctor-Charley Pollard arc where he saved her from dying aboard the R-101 and changed history as a result, not the 6th Doctor-Charley Pollard arc which gets a wee bit weird. Wibbly wobbly timey wimmey and all that.

    yeah, that makes alot of sense to me.

    not to mention that Amy's Choice is an episode where
    Amy's pregnant! check around there's promo pics of her sitting pregnant on the swing. It's a good thing the Doctor didn't sleep with her when he had the chance, that'd be one crazy time paradoxin child.
  • edited May 2010
    by the way, how totally awesome has this fifth season been?
    i think it's shaping up to be my favorite, there was always something that bugged me about previous doctors, matt smith has really really got it down though.
  • edited May 2010
    pwblaine wrote: »
    yeah, that makes alot of sense to me.

    not to mention that Amy's Choice is an episode where
    Amy's pregnant! check around there's promo pics of her sitting pregnant on the swing. It's a good thing the Doctor didn't sleep with her when he had the chance, that'd be one crazy time paradoxin child.

    the villian in that is
    rumored to be called the dream lord so its most likley a dream universe..or an episode when she makes a choice to keep or abort XD
  • edited May 2010
    the villian in that is
    rumored to be called the dream lord so its most likley a dream universe..or an episode when she makes a choice to keep or abort XD
    I have a suspicious feeling that
    the Dream Lord is another of the Trickster's Parade, and we might get another Turn Left.
    I may be way off with that though.

    And the main reason this series has been awesome is because we've had five episodes so far, four of which have been written by Steven Moffatt. I'll give it a couple of non-Moffatt episodes before I call this the best series yet, but it's looking good so far.
  • edited May 2010
    I just found ten teasers from Digital Spy about the Vampires in Venice. What do you guys think?
  • edited May 2010
    I just found ten teasers from Digital Spy about the Vampires in Venice. What do you guys think?

    Hmm.. The
    First doctor makes an appearance? Seeing as he's dead, i'd imagine that it's a picture or something.
  • edited May 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    Hmm.. The
    First doctor makes an appearance? Seeing as he's dead, i'd imagine that it's a picture or something.

    There was a clip released earlier from the Vampires of Venice that
    had the First Doctor's picture on a library card
    .
  • edited May 2010
    Not to be a stickler, but it's just 'Vampires of Venice'. No The.
  • edited May 2010
    the villian in that is
    rumored to be called the dream lord so its most likley a dream universe..or an episode when she makes a choice to keep or abort XD
    It is the eve of the birth of her first child. I'm pretty sure it would be too late to abort
  • edited May 2010
    Remolay wrote: »
    It is the eve of the birth of her first child. I'm pretty sure it would be too late to abort

    Well if she
    died
    in the episode, that would probably cause
    an abortion
    .
  • edited May 2010
    Oh, God, those f*&%ing Weeping Angels scared the s*&% out of me. I watched The Time of Angels at 11pm last night, thinking it was going to be as scary as "Victory of the Daleks", which was actually extremely unfrightening, and then, even when I saw that first CCTV footage in the trawler thing, I was like "f*&%". Next thing I know, they're EVERYWHERE! Now I don't want to watch Flesh and Stone and I want to watch it at the same time. Also, my friend suggested watching "Blink", but the Weeping Angels are by far the worst things I've ever seen.
  • edited May 2010
    You should definitely watch Blink. And probably Flesh and Stone, too. They are both excellent.

    Blink is probably my favorite Doctor Who episode ever, though you might want to watch it during the daytime.:D
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    edited May 2010
    Blink is probably my favorite Doctor Who episode ever, though you might want to watch it during the daytime.:D

    Definitely one of my favourites too! Although I've only seen it twice because it freaks me out so much. I prefer to watch it at night with someone I can grab on to during the scary bits. :D
  • edited May 2010
    My favs are The Master eps just cos I love John Simm as The Master.
  • edited May 2010
    So what were your thoughts? My sister kept yapping about how they stole everything from twilight (although at least they don't twinkle in the sunlight!!), and then how the fact they were actually
    fish
    ruined the scariness [/spoiler]

    Personally i loved it! Although i was sure it was a two parter... I guess that's next week!
  • edited May 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    My sister kept yapping about how they stole everything from twilight
    It's sad how often you read about people thinking vampires and werewolves didn't exist before twilight.
    Personally i loved it! Although i was sure it was a two parter... I guess that's next week!
    I liked it as well, I laughed so much :D
    I was afraid only Moffat's episodes would be good (especially after Victory of the Daleks) but this one was great. The preview of next week's episode looked amazing as well.
  • edited May 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    My sister kept yapping about how they stole everything from twilight

    I don't understand. These vampires were nothing like the Twilight ones. These ones had fangs, burned in sunlight, drank blood, and didn't show up in mirrors. The Twilight vampires just sparkle and run really fast. If anything I would say that these vampires followed the more classical route of Dracula, or less classical Buffy, but with a twist.

    In other news, my favorite part (out of a lot of favorite parts) was definitely
    the doctor popping out of the cake and remarking that he was worried that he'd popped out of the wrong one...again
    . I totally called it right before as a joke and started squeeing when it actually happened.:D
  • edited May 2010
    I don't understand. These vampires were nothing like the Twilight ones. These ones had fangs, burned in sunlight, drank blood, and didn't show up in mirrors. The Twilight vampires just sparkle and run really fast. If anything I would say that these vampires followed the more classical route of Dracula, or less classical Buffy, but with a twist.

    In other news, my favorite part (out of a lot of favorite parts) was definitely
    the doctor popping out of the cake and remarking that he was worried that he'd popped out of the wrong one...again
    . I totally called it right before as a joke and started squeeing when it actually happened.:D
    She said the family reminded her of one from the twilight saga, and the "it'll flow through your veins like fire" she claimed was lifted directly out of the book. There was another point she made, but i wasn't paying attention!
  • edited May 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    She said the family reminded her of one from the twilight saga, and the "it'll flow through your veins like fire" she claimed was lifted directly out of the book. There was another point she made, but i wasn't paying attention!

    Vampires travel in families in most vampire literature (all that I've read/watched). I don't really know much about "flow[ing] through veins like fire" because I purged most of the memories of that book from my brain, but it seems like a common enough phrase (I think I also read it in a book where someone gets an injection).

    Also, good for you for not paying attention!:p That stuff will rot your brain, even second hand!:eek:
  • edited May 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    they stole everything from twilight

    Someone should be slapped for that, and I bet it's a female.

    Also, vampires traveling in families are pretty common. If Angel taught us anything, it's that killing with a group is more fun than killing alone. And getting your blood replaced by alien blood can pretty much feel like something's burning, and it's not the roof. That is burning.

    Also, I do have a feeling that out of all the companions of the Doctor, Amy's the most reckless.
  • edited May 2010
    GaryCXJk wrote: »

    Also, I do have a feeling that out of all the companions of the Doctor, Amy's the most reckless.

    Rose was pretty reckless 2. She has also killed villian's with no remorse even Martha felt reluctant when she was
    pretending she was going to shoot the master
  • edited May 2010
    Rose was pretty reckless 2. She has also killed villian's with no remorse even Martha felt reluctant when she was
    pretending she was going to shoot the master
    Plus, rose is responsible for two of the dotors regenrations (ecclestone to tennant, tennant to tennant)
  • edited May 2010
    I think Amy's recklessness is partly a product of the fact that the 11th Doctor is super overprotective compared to his predecessors. How many times has he told her to go wait in the TARDIS so far? I'd be doing reckless things too!:D
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