Captain Jack and Eve Myles are trending on twitter. And I still missed the episode, as I'm currently trying to organise a bunch of students into going to a theme park. Bah.
Oh well, iPlayer to the rescue! Now hurry up and upload it. HD please.
I like the theme of miracle day, but I think it may fall into the standard Hollywood trap of "Worldwide disaster/event occurring, but let's only show New york/washington". And I think the accents might start to grate a bit. Part of what I loved about Torchwood was its welshness. Oh well, time will tell how it turns out.
And Captain Jack looks different somehow, and on twitter, "Americanised""Captain Jack" and "Gwen Cooper" are all trending. Nice.
I might not watch a lot of Doctor Who, but I did watch most of Torchwood!
As for todays episode, (at least for me), I thought it was still up to par with the rest.
Though, I am a bit sad that most of the cast I like is gone, but hopefully the new characters introduced are fleshed out well.
The premise was fantastic, and the plot was executed well, (though a little confused at times).
I like the fact that Jack is now mortal. I wonder if those responsible are connected to his past, (or possibly an old enemy we have seen before (though unlikely)).
Also didn't he mention before how his life is displaced or something, (so long ago!). I wonder if whoever responsible has managed to switch the source of that phenomenon around with something here, and caused this opposite effect.
If Jack is an intentional target, (he is being hunted down remember), then it asks the question, how did they find it out?
EDIT:
Ah there it is:
The Doctor said that Jack was a fixed point in time, an impossible thing which the Doctor had trouble even looking at and didn't even know the TARDIS tried to get rid him. The Doctor said that he was unable to undo Jack's resurrection power and didn't know if Jack would ever truly die.
I need to get caught up on Torchwood. Got to I think episode 7 or 8 of series 2. At least I still have all that I've yet to watch on the hard drive of my VHS/DVD/HDD combo thingy.
I need to get caught up on Torchwood. Got to I think episode 7 or 8 of series 2. At least I still have all that I've yet to watch on the hard drive of my VHS/DVD/HDD combo thingy.
Please do yourself a favor and don't. It's astonishing you got as far as you did.
I need to get caught up on Torchwood. Got to I think episode 7 or 8 of series 2. At least I still have all that I've yet to watch on the hard drive of my VHS/DVD/HDD combo thingy.
Well, if you find you get bored, skip to the last two episodes of series 2, and then watch Children of earth. Fantastic bit of television, reduced me to tears twice, one of which was pretty much down to how the scene was directed (i.e. no deaths or partings or the like. It's hard to explain without spoiling the plot but it involves children, a shed and running.)
I forgot that fan's opinions don't count unless they hate the right episodes.
Yes, they do not. That is correct. Last of the Timelords had such a good concept, and was completely ruined by incredibly stupid decision after incredibly stupid decision. Why did the Master age the Doctor 100 years and he became Gollum, when the First Doctor died of old age at 450-ish? Why does the Doctor become Jesus if enough people believe in him? Why didn't the Master just kill the Doctor, seeing he had no problem killing the fourth doctor? Why is the Master completely unlike himself in any prior incarnation to the point where eh can't possibly be the same person? Anyone with a brain should recognize that as a terrible, terrible episode.
[unpopularopinion]David Tennant is the worst doctor[/unpopularopinion]
Yes, they do not. That is correct. Last of the Timelords had such a good concept, and was completely ruined by incredibly stupid decision after incredibly stupid decision. Why did the Master age the Doctor 100 years and he became Gollum, when the First Doctor died of old age at 450-ish?
He suspended his regeneration if not then the Tenth would have regenerated and become 11th.
Why does the Doctor become Jesus if enough people believe in him?
That professor chick said the 15 satalghts where The Masters greatest weakness which turned out to be very true. The Doctor turned into Jesus cos of the psychic energy used to keep the people in fear was turned back against him when they feed hope into it and The Doctor used his psychic powers(which hes always been psychic) to feed off of it after having a year to know how to use it.
Why didn't the Master just kill the Doctor, seeing he had no problem killing the fourth doctor?
The Master has always wanted to show his dominance over The Doctor not just kill him also they are the last two time lords alive and The Master wont admit it but he needs The Doctor they have a Batman Joker like relationship.
Why is the Master completely unlike himself in any prior incarnation to the point where eh can't possibly be the same person?
The 9th Doctor was shaken up by being a post Time War regeneration The Master who can now hear the drums louder then ever and with all the stuff he saw in the Time War and regenerated altogether made him very unstable.
The smarter portion of fandom shares my opinion that it is RTD's lowest low. Well, that would actually be The End of Time for taking the Master storyline and making it even worse. But The End of Time is an easy argument. The point still stands, that after
Truth be told, the big problem is the master is suddenly this crazy person talking about drums that don't make sense. What happened to shrinking people to dolls? Why did he need to kill his board? The Master is incredibly intelligent, creative, but evil, not insane. And even Eric Roberts played him as Evil. Hell, even Derek Jacobi made the master seem Evil. The moral of The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords and the whole NuWho master arc is pretty much it's okay to kill people if you were made crazy by your superiors.
Its not enough to have an opinion on it you have to have the right one and be smarter then the fan base that don't.
Wait, what? I used shared to say it was very much my opinion as well and it just happens to be that of fandom as well.
I suppose the two-parter is alright in hte sense RTD was saving his energy for the next season, inwhich there was not a single fault. Now that's an opinion not shared by most of fandom.
Wait, what? I used shared to say it was very much my opinion as well and it just happens to be that of fandom as well.
I suppose the two-parter is alright in hte sense RTD was saving his energy for the next season, inwhich there was not a single fault. Now that's an opinion not shared by most of fandom.
Im not saying you should like it or that the fan base is wrong. But I just posted my views on Torchwood and you snap basically saying cos I like that episode and not sharing this fan base views I'm an idiot whose opinion don't count.
Im not saying you should like it or that the fan base is wrong. But I just posted my views on Torchwood and you snap basically saying cos I like that episode and not sharing this fan base views I'm an idiot whose opinion don't count.
Heh, I just really, really don't like torchwood and need an easy way to dismiss people's opinions on it. Because I'm mean.
I really don't get the hate for the new-who master. He played the role fantastically, and it built upon the fact they were friends as kids. They couldn't have been friends if he was evil all along? That must mean he was driven evil, by some madness, i.e. the drumming. I quite enjoyed the drumming arc. And as for why it was never mentioned before, you can blame the time war for that. The time war rewrote history, and with it the master's driving force. And he's still evil. I mean, he effectively killed the entire human race in Utopia, and turned them into mechanical balls. He gave no thought to killing one in ten people when taking over the earth. He planned to wage war on the entire universe. He killed a woman in a kebab van!
And I think that at it's heart, Utopia/The sound of drums/Last of the timelords are decent episodes. The first two definitely are. The second one could be with a small amount of rewriting. (I.e. no golem/jesus doctor, instead using the psychic power of the sattelites to allow him to project a mental forcefield to protect against the laser screwdriver, reverse the effects of the ageing and allow him to move objects (i.e. knock the device flying)) Plus it leads nicely into the doctor being to powerfull in "A good man goes to war".
And I thought "The end of time" was pretty decent. The only scenes I don't really like are the ones where he's scoffing down food with the line "Dinner Time!". But that can be forgiven.
The thing I like about Jon Simms' Master is that he was like a parallel version of the doctor. What he could have been if he'd been the one driven mad. Something not really seen since Roger Delgado.
But yeah, different opinions. I would have loved to see Moffat tackle him. Oh well, that's what the Big Finish audio's are for!
Why did the Master age the Doctor 100 years and he became Gollum, when the First Doctor died of old age at 450-ish?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the opinion that the Doctor was aged to 900 years to make him Yoda. And I'm not sure that the First Doctor's death was entirely due to natural old age. I mean, he was in a weird time speedy up thing at the time which could be interpreted a variety of ways. At least, that's what I remember.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the opinion that the Doctor was aged to 900 years to make him Yoda. And I'm not sure that the First Doctor's death was entirely due to natural old age. I mean, he was in a weird time speedy up thing at the time which could be interpreted a variety of ways. At least, that's what I remember.
The point still stands: The First Doctor aged 450 years, and still was humanoid. The Master then aged the Tenth Doctor merely 100 years, and he became Gollum.
The point still stands: The First Doctor aged 450 years, and still was humanoid. The Master then aged the Tenth Doctor merely 100 years, and he became Gollum.
It probably ages him 100 Time Lord years not human years. Like dog years are different to human years.
The point still stands: The First Doctor aged 450 years, and still was humanoid. The Master then aged the Tenth Doctor merely 100 years, and he became Gollum.
Were you referring to the first aging spree or the second one, then? I think I might have misunderstood you. If it was the first one, then it's altogether possible that the age discrepancy is merely due to availability of special effects now as opposed to when the First Doctor was shot. If you're referring to the mini-Doctor in a birdcage...well I'm fairly sure that was 900 years, not 100 and makes a bit more sense as to why there's such a change.
Of course, it all comes back to the fact that this is Doctor Who we're talking about, a show in which canon can be disregarded at the writer's leisure and has repeatedly been done so throughout it's history. It's high time that we wrote a No Prize worthy explanation to all of this!
I really don't get the hate for the new-who master.
Do people really hate this version of the Master? I thought he was a pretty well-written and well-acted character. It's just that the episodes he appears in are pretty terrible for reasons mostly unrelated to the character himself. I suppose I can sympathize with people disliking the story so much that they hate the character as a result, but I rather liked his frantic, sometimes joyful evilness.
But yeah that aging thing was five kinds of stupid.
Perhaps my memory is being generous to the character's dialog. I haven't gone back and rewatched those episodes since the first time, due to their aforementioned terribleness
Perhaps my memory is being generous to the character's dialog. I haven't gone back and rewatched those episodes since the first time, due to their aforementioned terribleness
No, it's just I am unfairly cruel to Russell T Davies' writing abilities.
Picked up the CCs Home Truths and Transit of Venus for a plane ride. I am beyond excited for the latter because Captain James Cook is one of the least recognized explorers from history plus I did a report on him all those years ago in Fourth Grade. Also the first Seven/Ace/Hex adventure, The Harvest.
The Doctor refers to his age in Gallifreyan years and Earth years. Hence how he can be 1000 in Sylvester McCoy's era (he celebrates his 1000th birthday in one of the audios, so he must be at least around that age in the TV series), yet have de-aged to just over 900 in the recent TV series (and that gradually increases to match the length of the new show).
As for why? Well, it makes sense he'd use Gallifreyan years when Gallifrey is still there and he's a proud member of an existing race. But once Gallifrey has gone and he's the last of his kind, referring to the time scale of his lost home planet would bring up bad memories, so he switches to his 'other' home world, Earth. It also means he freaks out his companions a little less, though admittedly 900 isn't all that much better than 1100 (which he must be by now, surely).
Anyway. As for the whole Golum thing... Time Lords physically age much, much slower than humans. It's how they live so long. The Master basically took that away from the Doctor, making him look his 900 (or 1100, whatever) years.
Think of it in human terms. If we live to be 100, we get smaller and more wrinkled, right? What would happen if we we kept alive till we were, say, 200? How much smaller and wrinkled would we look then? We'd probably look like Hans Moleman. Apply that to Time Lord standards, and we get Golum.
There. Now be quiet and give me my God-Damn No-Prize.
I think it actually helps your argument. If Hans Moleman can look 100 years old when he's only 31, then Tenth Doctor can look like he's 2000 years old when he's only 1000. Clearly the laser screwdriver hit him with a decades-of-beer-and-cigarettes ray.
There's finally a use for facebook credits! You can use them to rent doctor who episodes. (unlimited watches of a serial over 48 hours for about £1). Not bad. When I sort out my bank account, I'll be watching "The greatest show in the galaxy" and "Attack of the cybermen"
There's finally a use for facebook credits! You can use them to rent doctor who episodes. (unlimited watches of a serial over 48 hours for about £1). Not bad. When I sort out my bank account, I'll be watching "The greatest show in the galaxy" and "Attack of the cybermen"
But Attack has some really great bonus features on the DVD, with it's to-be-expected 'This Colin Baker story was hard to make!' documentary that's over 30 minutes long and another documentary about the history of the Cybermen that's 25 minutes long! I can understand Greatest Show as it's not out for another year, but Attack is a really nice package.
I think I'm going to become one of those people to pick up every DVD as they come out, because at MSRP it totals to just 140 dollars for the rest of the year, 26 episodes total. Which is quite a nice deal, especially because Amazon's prices will reduce that to around 100 dollars.
Transit of Venus was really nice and very much like a missing Hartnell historical, and Ian/William Russell is great as is to be expected.
I tried listening to Davros, but found it extremely boring and am probably not going to bother listening to the second disc.
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Oh well, iPlayer to the rescue! Now hurry up and upload it. HD please.
And Captain Jack looks different somehow, and on twitter, "Americanised""Captain Jack" and "Gwen Cooper" are all trending. Nice.
As for todays episode, (at least for me), I thought it was still up to par with the rest.
Though, I am a bit sad that most of the cast I like is gone, but hopefully the new characters introduced are fleshed out well.
The premise was fantastic, and the plot was executed well, (though a little confused at times).
Also didn't he mention before how his life is displaced or something, (so long ago!). I wonder if whoever responsible has managed to switch the source of that phenomenon around with something here, and caused this opposite effect.
If Jack is an intentional target, (he is being hunted down remember), then it asks the question, how did they find it out?
EDIT:
Ah there it is:
Please do yourself a favor and don't. It's astonishing you got as far as you did.
Series 2 was awesome especially the finale.
Says someone who even moderately enjoyed Last of the Time Lords.
That's...that's low.
Well, if you find you get bored, skip to the last two episodes of series 2, and then watch Children of earth. Fantastic bit of television, reduced me to tears twice, one of which was pretty much down to how the scene was directed (i.e. no deaths or partings or the like. It's hard to explain without spoiling the plot but it involves children, a shed and running.)
I forgot that fan's opinions don't count unless they hate the right episodes.
Yes, they do not. That is correct. Last of the Timelords had such a good concept, and was completely ruined by incredibly stupid decision after incredibly stupid decision. Why did the Master age the Doctor 100 years and he became Gollum, when the First Doctor died of old age at 450-ish? Why does the Doctor become Jesus if enough people believe in him? Why didn't the Master just kill the Doctor, seeing he had no problem killing the fourth doctor? Why is the Master completely unlike himself in any prior incarnation to the point where eh can't possibly be the same person? Anyone with a brain should recognize that as a terrible, terrible episode.
[unpopularopinion]David Tennant is the worst doctor[/unpopularopinion]
He suspended his regeneration if not then the Tenth would have regenerated and become 11th. That professor chick said the 15 satalghts where The Masters greatest weakness which turned out to be very true. The Doctor turned into Jesus cos of the psychic energy used to keep the people in fear was turned back against him when they feed hope into it and The Doctor used his psychic powers(which hes always been psychic) to feed off of it after having a year to know how to use it.
The Master has always wanted to show his dominance over The Doctor not just kill him also they are the last two time lords alive and The Master wont admit it but he needs The Doctor they have a Batman Joker like relationship.
The 9th Doctor was shaken up by being a post Time War regeneration The Master who can now hear the drums louder then ever and with all the stuff he saw in the Time War and regenerated altogether made him very unstable.
I don't care if you like or hate the episode but it doesn't make you a superior fan then me cos I do enjoy watching it.
Truth be told, the big problem is the master is suddenly this crazy person talking about drums that don't make sense. What happened to shrinking people to dolls? Why did he need to kill his board? The Master is incredibly intelligent, creative, but evil, not insane. And even Eric Roberts played him as Evil. Hell, even Derek Jacobi made the master seem Evil. The moral of The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords and the whole NuWho master arc is pretty much it's okay to kill people if you were made crazy by your superiors.
Its not enough to have an opinion on it you have to have the right one and be smarter then the fan base that don't.
Wait, what? I used shared to say it was very much my opinion as well and it just happens to be that of fandom as well.
I suppose the two-parter is alright in hte sense RTD was saving his energy for the next season, inwhich there was not a single fault. Now that's an opinion not shared by most of fandom.
Im not saying you should like it or that the fan base is wrong. But I just posted my views on Torchwood and you snap basically saying cos I like that episode and not sharing this fan base views I'm an idiot whose opinion don't count.
Heh, I just really, really don't like torchwood and need an easy way to dismiss people's opinions on it. Because I'm mean.
Can't resist.
I might, but it's not available legally outside of Regions 2 and 4.
And I think that at it's heart, Utopia/The sound of drums/Last of the timelords are decent episodes. The first two definitely are. The second one could be with a small amount of rewriting. (I.e. no golem/jesus doctor, instead using the psychic power of the sattelites to allow him to project a mental forcefield to protect against the laser screwdriver, reverse the effects of the ageing and allow him to move objects (i.e. knock the device flying)) Plus it leads nicely into the doctor being to powerfull in "A good man goes to war".
And I thought "The end of time" was pretty decent. The only scenes I don't really like are the ones where he's scoffing down food with the line "Dinner Time!". But that can be forgiven.
The thing I like about Jon Simms' Master is that he was like a parallel version of the doctor. What he could have been if he'd been the one driven mad. Something not really seen since Roger Delgado.
But yeah, different opinions. I would have loved to see Moffat tackle him. Oh well, that's what the Big Finish audio's are for!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the opinion that the Doctor was aged to 900 years to make him Yoda. And I'm not sure that the First Doctor's death was entirely due to natural old age. I mean, he was in a weird time speedy up thing at the time which could be interpreted a variety of ways. At least, that's what I remember.
The point still stands: The First Doctor aged 450 years, and still was humanoid. The Master then aged the Tenth Doctor merely 100 years, and he became Gollum.
It probably ages him 100 Time Lord years not human years. Like dog years are different to human years.
Were you referring to the first aging spree or the second one, then? I think I might have misunderstood you. If it was the first one, then it's altogether possible that the age discrepancy is merely due to availability of special effects now as opposed to when the First Doctor was shot. If you're referring to the mini-Doctor in a birdcage...well I'm fairly sure that was 900 years, not 100 and makes a bit more sense as to why there's such a change.
Of course, it all comes back to the fact that this is Doctor Who we're talking about, a show in which canon can be disregarded at the writer's leisure and has repeatedly been done so throughout it's history. It's high time that we wrote a No Prize worthy explanation to all of this!
Do people really hate this version of the Master? I thought he was a pretty well-written and well-acted character. It's just that the episodes he appears in are pretty terrible for reasons mostly unrelated to the character himself. I suppose I can sympathize with people disliking the story so much that they hate the character as a result, but I rather liked his frantic, sometimes joyful evilness.
But yeah that aging thing was five kinds of stupid.
Ha!
No, it's just I am unfairly cruel to Russell T Davies' writing abilities.
Picked up the CCs Home Truths and Transit of Venus for a plane ride. I am beyond excited for the latter because Captain James Cook is one of the least recognized explorers from history plus I did a report on him all those years ago in Fourth Grade. Also the first Seven/Ace/Hex adventure, The Harvest.
The Doctor refers to his age in Gallifreyan years and Earth years. Hence how he can be 1000 in Sylvester McCoy's era (he celebrates his 1000th birthday in one of the audios, so he must be at least around that age in the TV series), yet have de-aged to just over 900 in the recent TV series (and that gradually increases to match the length of the new show).
As for why? Well, it makes sense he'd use Gallifreyan years when Gallifrey is still there and he's a proud member of an existing race. But once Gallifrey has gone and he's the last of his kind, referring to the time scale of his lost home planet would bring up bad memories, so he switches to his 'other' home world, Earth. It also means he freaks out his companions a little less, though admittedly 900 isn't all that much better than 1100 (which he must be by now, surely).
Anyway. As for the whole Golum thing... Time Lords physically age much, much slower than humans. It's how they live so long. The Master basically took that away from the Doctor, making him look his 900 (or 1100, whatever) years.
Think of it in human terms. If we live to be 100, we get smaller and more wrinkled, right? What would happen if we we kept alive till we were, say, 200? How much smaller and wrinkled would we look then? We'd probably look like Hans Moleman. Apply that to Time Lord standards, and we get Golum.
There. Now be quiet and give me my God-Damn No-Prize.
But Attack has some really great bonus features on the DVD, with it's to-be-expected 'This Colin Baker story was hard to make!' documentary that's over 30 minutes long and another documentary about the history of the Cybermen that's 25 minutes long! I can understand Greatest Show as it's not out for another year, but Attack is a really nice package.
I think I'm going to become one of those people to pick up every DVD as they come out, because at MSRP it totals to just 140 dollars for the rest of the year, 26 episodes total. Which is quite a nice deal, especially because Amazon's prices will reduce that to around 100 dollars.
Transit of Venus was really nice and very much like a missing Hartnell historical, and Ian/William Russell is great as is to be expected.
I tried listening to Davros, but found it extremely boring and am probably not going to bother listening to the second disc.