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  • edited October 2011
    If you use constant notes throughout the games you might want to play Riven first. The other games kind of give you something that you have to learn in the quite well hidden school.
  • edited October 2011

    Two Midweek Madness titles this week. The first is incredibly appropriate - it's Back to the Future! £6.80 / $10, which, typically, is less then I paid for it here! Gah!

    The other is GRID, a driving game I know nothing of. £2.99 / $3.74

    Just so we're clear; Back to the Future: The Game sucks. There's no difficulty in it, you literally have 2 or 3 things you can click on and the story advances like if it's a slide show, not like an adventure game.

    They could sell a box containing alphabet blocks with the label saying "Back to the Future" on it and charge the same price. That would be exactly the same thing.
  • edited October 2011
    Ok. If you don't like it, fine. Don't buy it. If you do/did like it, then it's at its lowest ever price. There ya go.

    I'd really like this to be a thread to tell people what the offers on Steam (and other places) are, not where we can re-open old debates. Let's not get into a massive argument over whether BTTF:TG is any good or not - it's entire subjective, and a discussion for somewhere else.

    Is that alright with you guys? I'm trying very hard not to annoy or antagonise anyone, but I'm also concerned we're gonna kick off, and I really don't want that! So... yeah.

    Anyway. Change of topic - has anyone played GRID or The First Templar? I'm debating buying the latter, since I've heard fairly good things and the Broken Sword series has me somewhat interested in the whole 'Templar' thing.

    LuigiHann - Appreciate the interest, but I tried Riven, and just couldn't get into it. The whole 'static image' thing is a massive turn-off for me. So thanks, but the sequels just aren't for me.
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    Anyway. Change of topic - has anyone played GRID or The First Templar?
    If anyone had, we're not supposed to talk about whether or not we liked it. After all, whether or not GRID or The First Templar are any good is subjective, and a discussion for somewhere else.
  • edited October 2011
    Boy you are a moaning bitch sometimes you know.
  • edited October 2011
    Boy you are a moaning bitch sometimes you know.
    Ok. If you don't like it, fine. Don't buy it. If you do/did like it, then it's at its lowest ever price. There ya go.
    1. Here, a negative opinion on a sale item is directly unwelcome, I should just ignore said sale and sale item.
    I'd really like this to be a thread to tell people what the offers on Steam (and other places) are
    2. Here, it is stated that this thread is not for the sharing of subjective opinions about sale items, but instead a thread about spreading information about said sales.
    Let's not get into a massive argument
    3. Arguments are bad. Subjective opinions lead to the potential for arguments because opinions can differ from other opinions.
    it's entire subjective, and a discussion for somewhere else.
    4. Subjective opinions are bad and have no place here.
    Anyway. Change of topic - has anyone played GRID or The First Templar?
    Change of topic, I want subjective, potentially negative opinions of an item on sale.
    LuigiHann - Appreciate the interest, but I tried Riven, and just couldn't get into it. The whole 'static image' thing is a massive turn-off for me. So thanks, but the sequels just aren't for me.
    ...followed by a negative opinion of a sale item.

    So no, I'm generally not fond of someone telling me off for something they then advocate AND do in the same fucking post, and frankly I think it's more than fucking warranted. Fuck you for saying otherwise.
  • edited October 2011
    Dashing, your "Gameplay Analysis" threads for BTTF were brilliant. You should link to them in your sig. Then any time you feel compelled to share your thoughts on the game, you can just say "see my sig." I suggest this because every post you write bashing the game is less interesting and more grating than the one that came before, so you'd be much better off directing people to read the posts where you expressed your thoughts most eloquently.
  • edited October 2011
    Yeah, I agree with Rather Dashing in this instance. This thread is full of opinions about games that have been on sale, and I believe sharing information about said games is very useful, nay essential, to those people who may not have played those games.

    Any opinions, information or advice is always welcome whether they be negative or positive.
  • edited October 2011
    Anyway. Change of topic - has anyone played The First Templar?

    I just checked the store page and I never saw anything like this. No system requirements and no demo. So just take a shot in the dark and buy it. Who knows if you can even start the damned thing. Who cares. It's only 30€.
    Sorry but I'm quite shocked.
    caeska wrote: »
    Yeah, I agree with Rather Dashing in this instance. This thread is full of opinions about games that have been on sale, and I believe sharing information about said games is very useful, nay essential, to those people who may not have played those games.

    Any opinions, information or advice is always welcome whether they be negative or positive.
    I agree. And we all have voiced our opinion now. Yes the goddamn thing sucks donkeyd*ck. Move on. Nothing more to see here. Oh and if this was the EA-forum we would be banned now and lose our games. But it isn't. Thanks for that Telltale.
  • edited October 2011
    Y'know what? I had a whole post here. I spend 15-20 minutes typing it up. It was me trying to respond to you, Dashing. Me trying to counter your every comment, respond in a manner that attempted to one-up you.

    But then I read it back, and I realized I didn't need it. None of it.

    If you choose to be offended by what I typed, fine. Be offended. I didn't mean to offend anyone - I think I actually said that in my previous post - but if I did offend you, then whoops.

    Honestly though, you have been saying you don't like BTTF:TG for quite some time now. And you must also realize that the more you say it, the more it's going to start to annoy people.

    So I'm asking you very, very nicely. Please stop telling us how much you dislike the BTTF game. We know.

    Can we please draw a line under this whole mess? I don't like arguing with people, especially on the net when things can get really bad before you know what's happening, and this is exactly what I didn't want.

    So can we just drop the whole kerfuffle and move on? Please?
  • edited October 2011
    Moving on. I just jumped on The First Templar. So I'll post my impressions after it finishes downloading for anyone else who's on the fence.
  • edited October 2011
    If you would. On the fence is exactly where I am (well, not literally, but you get what I mean).
  • edited October 2011
    $10 is way too much for Back to the Future. Fuck, being paid $10 is too much for Back to the Future.

    Wait... Didn't you preorder it?
  • edited October 2011
    Wait... Didn't you preorder it?

    I thought he just won it in a contest.
  • edited October 2011
    1. Here, a negative opinion on a sale item is directly unwelcome, I should just ignore said sale and sale item.


    2. Here, it is stated that this thread is not for the sharing of subjective opinions about sale items, but instead a thread about spreading information about said sales.


    3. Arguments are bad. Subjective opinions lead to the potential for arguments because opinions can differ from other opinions.


    4. Subjective opinions are bad and have no place here.


    Change of topic, I want subjective, potentially negative opinions of an item on sale.

    ...followed by a negative opinion of a sale item.

    So no, I'm generally not fond of someone telling me off for something they then advocate AND do in the same fucking post, and frankly I think it's more than fucking warranted. Fuck you for saying otherwise.

    Yeah Im giving this argumen to Dashing.

    He can state his opinion if he wants to, no one will buy a game solely because its cheep, they would need some honest opinions(and gameplay footage) as well. And its obvious Dashing is being honest.
  • edited October 2011
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    A problem I have with buying a TTG game from Steam is that I consider each game (or season) to be one title, but Steam separates it out by chapter, meaning that every title has 4 or 5 entries each in Steam.
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    As it does in your TTG-account.

    Yes, but I rarely ever visit my TTG account page.

    I do, however, visit my Steam Library almost daily. And while I did create Shortcuts in Steam to each episode of each TTG game for which I do not have an episode launcher (ie. all TTG games I own but ToMI,) given that I created the shortcuts myself, I can name them whatever I want, remove them if I tire of the way it looks, or replace them with Shortcuts to epsiode launchers if any (official or otherwise) were to become available.

    If I were to buy BTTF on Steam, all 5 episode would forever be individually (and with rather lengthy titles) listed in my Steam Library whether I liked it that way or not.


    $10 is way too much for Back to the Future. Fuck, being paid $10 is too much for Back to the Future.
    That may very well be, but I'm rather hesitant to pirate the series. I do want to be able to say for myself whether or not it entirely blows goats rather than that the first episode does and I've heard other people say the rest also does.

    Also, I do like the BTTF movies and, color me stupid if you want, but though people complain about the gameplay no one complains much about the story. I don't want to pay $25 for it, but I'd maybe pay $10 if it didn't permanently clutter up my Steam Library.
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    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Also, I do like the BTTF movies and, color me stupid if you want, but though people complain about the gameplay no one complains much about the story.
    Woah woah woah, you haven't been paying attention then. I could go on and on about the story of this game, because it's really bad. The gameplay being objectively less complex than a toddler's block puzzle, with less than half as many permutations as(for example) this thing, certainly steals the show in terms of this game being the worst thing I've ever played in my life, sure. Still, the story(which the gameplay was ENTIRELY sacrificed in order to serve) is subject to many egregious problems, including(but are BY NO MEANS limited to!):

    -Deus Ex Machina: To CRAZY levels. Back to the Future featured SOME fate, but here things happen just to push shit along every other minute. It's absolutely insane! It's not just limited to things that can be chalked up to a Back to the Future-style "time" and "fate" explanations, either. Performing certain actions that are entirely unrelated to the story trigger entirely unrelated actions(so things happen "around" Marty FAR more often than Marty actually effects change), characters RANDOMLY change their entire PERSONALITY in an extremely radical way whenever it just so happens to be convenient, and arbitrary restrictions are lifted without explanation at a moment's notice whenever it so happens to make the story move on.

    -Blatant Plagiarism: The third episode of this game features a plot that directly lifts story elements from various dystopian sources, such as A Clockwork Orange and Nineteen Eighty-Four. BttF: The Game apologists may refer to these as "references", "homages", or "parodies", but the idea that it's any of these is fundamentally flawed. A reference, homage, or parody will change SOME aspect of the original work, rather than lifting sections of plot wholesale and dropping them into their own work. That's what's done here, plain and simple. A solid fifth of the story has absolutely no CHANCE of being original in any way, because it's pulled directly out of a small selection of American fiction without alteration, commentary, or addition.

    -Lack of Consequence: Every time. There are things that happen that would make for interesting problems. More than once, Marty completely ruins someone's life in this series, and more than once he's given a noncommital "Oh that? I got over that" reply in the next episode. NOTHING carries over, there are no dramatic character interactions, there is no sensible character arc across the series. Shit just happens, and then we have to get to the next shit happening, so I guess we're going to drop plot threads left and right because we have a fucking SCHEDULE to keep, goddammit! It's really obnoxious because the conflict is SET UP extremely well...and then dropped. This isn't the only issue where a lack of confidence ruins the story, though. No, the story ALSO removes any sense of consequence from actions that SHOULD have pretty heavy questions regarding the ethics of time travel, especially for Marty and in the Back to the Future universe. But this problem is tossed away in favor of a villain that is PURE EEEEVIL for the sake of removing any potential questions, because we just have to "STOP THE BADGUY".

    -Arbitrary restrictions: Throughout the game series, there are obvious things that characters should be able to do, but a bullshit reason is given to wave it off. Arbitrary handwaves make their way into the gameplay as well to an even greater degree, but don't think for a moment that their effect on the story is negligible.

    -Why the DeLorean?: Oh, you'll love this one. The DeLorean is back, as you well know. Well, they had to think up a great reason to bring it back, right?

    WRONG.

    If you look through the game's files, there are actually voice recordings for Lloyd that feature several reasons that the DeLorean is back. The DeLorean isn't back for any half-decent story reason. Bringing the DeLorean back wasn't a natural element of storytelling. Bringing the car back was literally done only for fanwank purposes, and they let the reasoning behind it be a last-minute afterthought, picking one of their particular lines seemingly at random right before the game released.

    Fanwank: Actually, while I mention that, I'd like to bring this up. The entire story is fanwanking. That's really all there is to it. The story does not add anything new, it does not do anything interesting, even when it has SEVERAL CHANCES to try. There is nothing new, interesting, or valuable here. It is as safe as it is dull, with absolutely no contribution to the franchise as a whole. I'd venture to say that the cartoon was bolder and had more to offer than this piece of shit.

    -Doc in the Box: Doc Brown is often confined to small spaces and for short periods of time. We are given the young variant, but it's obvious that something in production limited the proper, Lloyd-voiced Doc Brown performance-wise. I don't know if it was animation, if it was only having Lloyd for a limited time, if there were issues with Doc's model or something, I don't know. But there was something that made it so that we spend EXTREMELY little time with the(at least) second most prominent character used to sell this game.

    -Wasted Potential. The story skeleton actually has several points of incredible potential, each one of which is wasted. There are SEVERAL points that make you go, "Wow! This could be used to really make the franchise evaluate itself!" or "Wow! This allows for an entirely new exploration of this storied relationship!", but all are dropped, unceremoniously, discarded with the dignity and respect befitting a burning bag of shit left on your doorstep by the neighborhood kids.

    -The story is Just Bad: If you look at the entire arc of the story from chronological start to finish, the series of events is arbitrary, poorly lined up, and held together with the flimsiest and blandest character motivations that I've ever seen in ANY piece of entertainment, let alone games. The entire experience gives you a game that insults you by asking you to do the most obvious possible shit in the universe and then "rewards" you with a story that could, at the very best, be called "subpar". People who are excited to see Marty and Doc in...well, ANYTHING to the point that they stop actually EVALUATING the story material for massive gaping holes and poor construction may enjoy the fact that they can see and old fellow voiced by Lloyd and a kid who looks and sounds like an exaggerated cartoon Marty will be pleased, I suppose, but anyone looking for solid story material should steer clear of this disaster.
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    -Wasted Potential. The story skeleton actually has several points of incredible potential, each one of which is wasted. There are SEVERAL points that make you go, "Wow! This could be used to really make the franchise evaluate itself!" or "Wow! This allows for an entirely new exploration of this storied relationship!", but all are dropped, unceremoniously, discarded with the dignity and respect befitting a burning bag of shit left on your doorstep by the neighborhood kids.

    Out of curiosity, what story points are you reffering to exactly? Not trying to be a dick or say that story didn't have any points, just curious.
  • edited October 2011
    Woah woah woah, you haven't been paying attention then. [The story sucks for numerous reasons, specifically thus...]

    Alrighty then.
  • edited October 2011
    Right opinions of The First Templar. I actually bought the two pack, which is also on sale for £8.75(Which is cheaper than buying two single copies at £5), and gifted the second copy to a friend so we could co-op it. Basically you play as 2 characters, and each player takes control of one. In single player mode, the ai controls the second.

    Overall I think it's pretty fun. The game is pretty linear, you go through levels in which you are locked to a specific map, with chests, bonus objectives and secrets dotted around. However each character has their own skill tree allowing them to perform different skills depending on what you choose to unlock, giving you a bit of choice. You can also choose how you kill your enemys, whether you stealth kill them, or just fight them head on. The story and characters aren't anything special so far(I'm only about 3hours in), however they aren't bad either, plus every know and then you'll get some amusing banter between the two characters.

    tldr; For £5 I don't think it's a bad purchase, it's nothing spectacular, but it's still a fun game for what it is, especially if you know someone who you could split the two pack with. After all playing with a friend is always more fun than just playing alone.
  • edited October 2011
    Cool, thanks. You've convinced me.
  • edited October 2011
    Yeah, about the DeLorean, everybody knows it was brought back just for fan wank. I don't even think Telltale would try to hide that fact.

    I mean, it's like, the light cycles in TRON Legacy. Wouldn't be the same without them. Or Rambo without bandana. Or Rocky Balboa without him boxing. Transformers wouldn't be Transformers without Megatron, and that's how he managed to survive for three movies.
  • edited October 2011
    Ooo, I can get back to just posting the deals! Happy days. :p

    Today's Daily Deal is Astro Tripper. It's a sort of schmup, but you can only move across a background platform that's constantly moving. It's a wee bit odd, but apparently pretty good it you're into that sort of game.
    £4.49 / $4.99.
  • edited October 2011
    but apparently pretty good

    Someone disagrees.
  • edited October 2011
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    Someone always disagrees. It is the internet, after all.
  • edited October 2011
    Someone always disagrees. It is the internet, after all.

    But that someone is not a troll. And he has a ton of subscribers.
  • edited October 2011
    It's worth noting that Gemini Rue is on Steam now. It's what seems to me to be a very compelling old-school style adventure game click-em-up affair.

    it's a lot cheaper than I remember it being back when it first came out. Also it's an additional 15% off at the moment at £5.94. No idea what it is in Dollars, Euros or the Swaziland Lilangeni.
  • edited October 2011
    JedExodus wrote: »
    It's worth noting that Gemini Rue is on Steam now. It's what seems to me to be a very compelling old-school style adventure game click-em-up affair.

    it's a lot cheaper than I remember it being back when it first came out. Also it's an additional 15% off at the moment at £5.94. No idea what it is in Dollars, Euros or the Swaziland Lilangeni.

    Is there a demo available anywhere because this looks like an instabuy to me if it runs well on my system.
    Edit: nevermind. I found one. Testing it tomorrow.
  • edited October 2011
    http://www.wadjeteyegames.com/gemini-rue.html

    You can get a demo there.

    http://www.indieroyale.com/

    Gemini Rue is also part of the Indie Royale pack, but it doesn't look like you get a Steam key for it.
  • edited October 2011
    http://www.indieroyale.com/

    Gemini Rue is also part of the Indie Royale pack, but it doesn't look like you get a Steam key for it.
    I got that. I hope they will add a steamkey since it is now available there but they seem to have some troubles with steamkeys right now.
    Thanks for the hint.

    You will get a Steamkey for the game.
    . So go ahead and buy this guys. I want those Sanctum DLCs.
  • edited October 2011
    http://www.wadjeteyegames.com/gemini-rue.html

    You can get a demo there.

    http://www.indieroyale.com/

    Gemini Rue is also part of the Indie Royale pack, but it doesn't look like you get a Steam key for it.

    Hooray! A indie bundle where I own none of the games! :D

    Man I love this idea so freakin' much.
    It just makes me want to take that next step towards being a indie dev myself.
    (The indie market on the PC just keeps getting stronger and more interesting!)
  • edited October 2011
    IndieRoyale had better figure their shit out, or I don't think I'll be buying from them again, regardless of what they have to offer. The site's barely been functional today, and even though the message saying that Steam keys are disabled is no longer on the front page, I still can't get Steam keys for anything. Gemini Rue doesn't even have a place for a Steam key yet, and Sanctum is only redeemable through Steam, making it totally inaccessible.
  • edited October 2011
    IndieRoyale had better figure their shit out, or I don't think I'll be buying from them again, regardless of what they have to offer. The site's barely been functional today, and even though the message saying that Steam keys are disabled is no longer on the front page, I still can't get Steam keys for anything. Gemini Rue doesn't even have a place for a Steam key yet, and Sanctum is only redeemable through Steam, making it totally inaccessible.
    I think unexpected volume and site downtime are acceptable. Humble Indie Bundle #1 faced very much the same issues, and it didn't even have Steam keys until the second bundle launched.
  • edited October 2011
    At least the message on the front page about Steam keys is back up.

    And the thing with the Humble Indie Bundle 1 is that it was sort of an unprecedented thing. IndieRoyale actually had something else they could look at to gauge the amount of interest they would be facing. The amount of traffic and sales they got today shouldn't have been a surprise to them.
  • edited October 2011
    Did they? There have been tons of indie game bundles since that haven't gotten anywhere close to the same amount of interest, and if you work out the numbers this still has a great deal less interest than the most recent Humble Indie Bundle itself.
  • edited October 2011
    Fair enough. A rough start is justifiable.
  • edited October 2011
    FYI folks, Sanctum is worth the pack alone.
    Incredibaly addicting and I need some multiplayer buddies:D

    And DLC for that game every 10,000 sales. Might just by the pack and see if I get the DLC
  • edited October 2011
    Well, it's already up to one DLC and halfway to another.
  • edited October 2011
    And I have my Steamkeys for 3 of the games now. Let's see how long it will take them to enable the keys for tha last game. Since the Developer of the game will give out some on twitter and gives everyone that purchased the game from them a key if they want one this might not take all that long.

    Okay: latest status on Twitter says the keys will be added after the bundle ends.

    Edit: I wonder what happens if they run out of Sanctum DLC to add. (there are only 5 + the soundtrack)

    Edit2: Maybe this bundle should get it's own thread.
  • edited October 2011
    Quick question - should I start posting the offers on Xbox Live? I won't be doing it for PSN because there's just so many, but there's usually only a couple of XBox, so that'd be do-able.

    Thoughts?

    Also, I bought the bundle. Can I be your friend now, ketzer? :p
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