This is incredible! I'm tempted to get the mini-portrait.. whats $1000 when you get be part of history and get something so cool! Market place realities indeed!
"Telltale might make adventure games, sure, but if you find someone who thinks they're either as smart or funny as Lucasarts' old games, tell them they're crazy."
They're true about the smart thing, BttF onwards TTG haven't really been a challenge, Episodes are shorter and the difficulty is just dumbed down. Funny is subjective but the last great laugh I had from a TTG was Sam & Max Season 3, BttF got some chuckles but that was mainly In-Jokes to the film.
"Telltale might make adventure games, sure, but if you find someone who thinks they're either as smart or funny as Lucasarts' old games, tell them they're crazy."
I'd firstly point out Kotaku is an awful blog and you should feel bad for reading it.
Then I'd do my usual spiel about how I actually think the Adventure Game genre is better off without puzzles, as I don't enjoy Adventure Games as a genre but only play them because I enjoy the story, and would appreciate having less and less interaction.
"Telltale might make adventure games, sure, but if you find someone who thinks they're either as smart or funny as Lucasarts' old games, tell them they're crazy."
I can't believe I'm agreeing with something written by Kotaku. I'll have to assume that they mean something else by "Smart" other than what I mean when I say "Smart", because I'm not sure Kotaku knows the meaning of the word.
@Ribs
Maybe you just should watch a movie instead of pretending to play a adventure game then? It might be worth a try because it's more immersive as well, better gfx, less demanding hardware, ...
@Rather Dashing
There also was a link when they checked out Kickstarter after 24hours and Tim was dancing around.
I hope they use some of that surplus VO budget to get Patrick Warburton to voice somebody in the game. I don't know anything about the game, but I'm sure he'd fit in somewhere
I'm totally going to fund this. But I figure I've got thirty-two days, so I'll use that time wisely to figure out exactly how much I'd like to spend. Fifteen dollars definitely, but I'm also considering thirty for the soundtrack.
I'm totally going to fund this. But I figure I've got thirty-two days, so I'll use that time wisely to figure out exactly how much I'd like to spend. Fifteen dollars definitely, but I'm also considering thirty for the soundtrack.
Yeah, I'm having a really hard time pacing myself. I've not got any money yet, but when I do I'll have to decide if I want to sploodge it on this straight away or wait for a while and be sensible about it.
I'm just in the process of convincing myself to spend money. It takes me awhile. Generally, I like to wait a few days unless there is a pressing time limit, just to reassure myself that I really do want this thing that I am buying.
"Telltale might make adventure games, sure, but if you find someone who thinks they're either as smart or funny as Lucasarts' old games, tell them they're crazy."
When they almost got it, they changed all the things for worse: too much dialogues, bugs, poor difficulty, lacking graphics.
Telltale missed their biggest opportunity.
And Double Fine is now just filling the space TT left empty.
@Ribs
Maybe you just should watch a movie instead of pretending to play a adventure game then? It might be worth a try because it's more immersive as well, better gfx, less demanding hardware, ...
I'd love to, but there's sadly no movie version of the stories of these games.
@Ribs
Then i suggest you just watch some playthrough videos, it's cheaper too.
A second option would be the implementation of a theatre mode which you activate in the menu, so that the game plays through automatically, maybe based on replay data gathered by someone playing through the game at TTG first, they also could expand such a thing in a way that you could record your own version, share it with others and download the replay data from other gamers and so watch playthroughs from different players. Doesn't this sound nice, relaxed and comfy enough?
Or hey, wait, maybe you're just the kind of audience TTG wants and it's more me who is obsolete here because i want to play creative weird interesting intelligent and challenging point&click adventure games. I stopped buying TTG products after BTTF (which i didn't buy for myself in the first place) and spent my money elsewhere. I'm fine with that Schafer got a huge part of my games budget now.
I still remember Jake: "We don't need your money." Well, i'm sure it was welcome to Tim and Double Fine.
Maybe Tim is a meth cooker and he's just trying to Launder the money he got from selling the meth by giving it to himself from thousands of zombie computers... [/Breaking-Bad]
"Telltale might make adventure games, sure, but if you find someone who thinks they're either as smart or funny as Lucasarts' old games, tell them they're crazy."
Let's not forget Telltale managed to resurrect both Sam & Max and Monkey Island with great games.
I'm not a dumb fanboy, I'm not saying that we should overlook their HUGE mistakes in the last year/year and a half, but laughing at them for Double Fine's triumph sounds pretty mean-spirited to me.
I'm sure Dan Connors is monitoring Double Fine's exploit and I know that 1.200.000 dollars will mean something to him. They're actually working on King's Quest, after all, so they have room to come up with something for us. In addition, they released Hector, which IS a classic point-n-click adventure game.
Turning a great moment in an occasion for revenge doesn't exactly put adventure gamers in a good light.
In my opinion they were good but not great. And it seems that either no one cares about the difference between good and great at TTG or they aren't able to deliver great but i rather buy one great adventure instead of three mediocre/good ones. Hector isn't done by TTG and it's not a good game in my opinion. King's Quest is another let's play it safe licence route instead of coming up with something really interesting and new. It might end up being better than the typical TTG experience but great sounds different to me.
Great sounds like what's happening at Double Fine right now.
And isn't it kind of sad that we all got ignored through all the years and that it takes something to happen like the Double Fine adventure that people maybe start to reconsider their positions, beside of that i haven't seen any indication that it's happening as well.
I also wouldn't say it's revenge, it's more excitement, pure joy and hey, look dudes, we were right, after going through lots of nonsense, it may sound like a bit of revenge due to this but i think that's quite fair.
Guys, Has anyone of you donated $30?
Could you share the concept arts, betas and the Videos with me once they started coming out? There's absolutley no way for me to fund their project... Me from being Iran and all the sanctions stop me from doing so
I wouldn't be surprised if they'll end up on the net somewhere.
Btw. how do you experience the sanctions in this respect exactly?
Well, we are not allowed to have a bank account in the US, Paypal has blocked access for any IP from Iran and we're not allowed to have a Visa Card or a Master Card...
There are someways to get a Visa Card or a MasterCard... But they're all risky. See, We can only get them through indirect resourses... it's like dealing with the Black Market [Is that the right word to use here?]
I don't know anyone in countries around Iran. Some of my relatives are outside of Iran. They're in Canada, Germany and Malaysia to be exact... But I don't think I can ask them for 15~30 dollars since dollar's value has increased a lot because of the sanctions. Just can't bring myself to do it. Too ashamed to do so... I may do that in the end seeing that's the only option...
Laughing at them for Double Fine's triumph sounds pretty mean-spirited to me.
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Turning a great moment in an occasion for revenge doesn't exactly put adventure gamers in a good light.
True. Kotaku was a bit too harsh. :P
Telltale proved to be absolutely excellent in the past, and Kotaku is just taking advantages from the latest TT problems to put shame on them.
And the Double Fine vs Telltale debate it's just silly: if they release good games we would buy from both - there's almost no overlapping, just more fun games to play.
Still, it's sad that the magic "Lucasarts" effect was rather lost in most of their latest productions. I think that people sees in the Double Fine's project something that may return that magic back.
I'm SURE that Telltale will bring us some great game in the future - as they did in the past. But 1.200.000 dollars in one day means that right NOW there's a market of "old style customers" left aside while TT is struggling to find "new casual customers".
It's not revenge (for what? our lost money?), maybe there's some delusion about how TT is (chaotically) managing their businnes, and regret for what could have been BTTF, PA, L&O - even if I truly admire TT for their sperimentations. I'm just hoping they will not be commercially compromised by the latest failures, sadly in the adventure market it's rather easy to (see Autumn Moon).
After all, if we are talking HERE, it's because we all want the same thing: some great adventures.
And - BTW - I will surely put my money on the preorder of The Walking Dead too!
@Jon NA
Well, if i notice that some material is freely available on the net, like on YouTube, i can inform you but i really would consider asking a mod on their forum for a possible solution.
I wasn't even aware that there exist such a sanction in this form against the Iran.
May i ask how old you are and how people feel about the sanction in your country?
Until they don't use a tiny font and place the names one by one this will turn into a epic presentation. Maybe you can speedup things by some acceleration or some form of selection. There are many possibilities how to make some nice credits.
Thinking of Grim Fandango i wonder how good the music will be.
@Jon NA
Well, if i notice that some material is freely available on the net, like on YouTube, i can inform you but i really would consider asking a mod on their forum for a possible solution.
Thanks for the suggestion Taumel And thanks a lot for the offer!
I think the best way is to trade gift cards. Then I can give my account info on Amazon and Kickstarter so someone the trade card receiver can donate on my behalf.
There are services here that allow us to buy Amazon and iTunes gift cards indirectly.
May i ask how old you are and how people feel about the sanction in your country?
Sure, You can see how old I am on my profile page here on TTForums.
The people, Well, The recent sanction were crippling in terms of Economy. But some hope that it'll eventually force the current regime to go. Some think it won't help that happen at all and if we want to change the regime, we have to do it ourselves.
May I ask why are you asking me this Taumel?
Thanks for the suggestion Taumel
I think the best way is to trade gift cards. Then I can give my account info on Amazon and Kickstarter so someone the trade card receiver can donate on my behalf.
You don't actually have to give your own Amazon info, actually. Give them the Kickstarter account info and they can use their Amazon account. The two aren't linked, so nobody gets access to anybody else's Amazon account, which makes letting someone else use their own account the safest option for everybody.
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"Telltale might make adventure games, sure, but if you find someone who thinks they're either as smart or funny as Lucasarts' old games, tell them they're crazy."
I'd firstly point out Kotaku is an awful blog and you should feel bad for reading it.
Then I'd do my usual spiel about how I actually think the Adventure Game genre is better off without puzzles, as I don't enjoy Adventure Games as a genre but only play them because I enjoy the story, and would appreciate having less and less interaction.
I can't believe I'm agreeing with something written by Kotaku. I'll have to assume that they mean something else by "Smart" other than what I mean when I say "Smart", because I'm not sure Kotaku knows the meaning of the word.
Maybe you just should watch a movie instead of pretending to play a adventure game then? It might be worth a try because it's more immersive as well, better gfx, less demanding hardware, ...
@Rather Dashing
There also was a link when they checked out Kickstarter after 24hours and Tim was dancing around.
I wish they would just shut up and take my money. But they will not.
It's pretty fun.
Try it. Report back with results.
Yeah, I'm having a really hard time pacing myself. I've not got any money yet, but when I do I'll have to decide if I want to sploodge it on this straight away or wait for a while and be sensible about it.
Also, we're now on $1.2M. So there's that.
When they almost got it, they changed all the things for worse: too much dialogues, bugs, poor difficulty, lacking graphics.
Telltale missed their biggest opportunity.
And Double Fine is now just filling the space TT left empty.
Maybe Telltale will take the cue from Double Fine.
I'd love to, but there's sadly no movie version of the stories of these games.
Yeah i hate to agree, but thats what happens when a company dont understand what they are doing and they everything needs revising.
If Jurassic Park is what future point n click games i from TTG im done
Then i suggest you just watch some playthrough videos, it's cheaper too.
A second option would be the implementation of a theatre mode which you activate in the menu, so that the game plays through automatically, maybe based on replay data gathered by someone playing through the game at TTG first, they also could expand such a thing in a way that you could record your own version, share it with others and download the replay data from other gamers and so watch playthroughs from different players. Doesn't this sound nice, relaxed and comfy enough?
Or hey, wait, maybe you're just the kind of audience TTG wants and it's more me who is obsolete here because i want to play creative weird interesting intelligent and challenging point&click adventure games. I stopped buying TTG products after BTTF (which i didn't buy for myself in the first place) and spent my money elsewhere. I'm fine with that Schafer got a huge part of my games budget now.
I still remember Jake: "We don't need your money." Well, i'm sure it was welcome to Tim and Double Fine.
What's your issue with Steam, anyway?
Also I dropped a hundo on this.
Let's not forget Telltale managed to resurrect both Sam & Max and Monkey Island with great games.
I'm not a dumb fanboy, I'm not saying that we should overlook their HUGE mistakes in the last year/year and a half, but laughing at them for Double Fine's triumph sounds pretty mean-spirited to me.
I'm sure Dan Connors is monitoring Double Fine's exploit and I know that 1.200.000 dollars will mean something to him. They're actually working on King's Quest, after all, so they have room to come up with something for us. In addition, they released Hector, which IS a classic point-n-click adventure game.
Turning a great moment in an occasion for revenge doesn't exactly put adventure gamers in a good light.
In my opinion they were good but not great. And it seems that either no one cares about the difference between good and great at TTG or they aren't able to deliver great but i rather buy one great adventure instead of three mediocre/good ones. Hector isn't done by TTG and it's not a good game in my opinion. King's Quest is another let's play it safe licence route instead of coming up with something really interesting and new. It might end up being better than the typical TTG experience but great sounds different to me.
Great sounds like what's happening at Double Fine right now.
And isn't it kind of sad that we all got ignored through all the years and that it takes something to happen like the Double Fine adventure that people maybe start to reconsider their positions, beside of that i haven't seen any indication that it's happening as well.
I also wouldn't say it's revenge, it's more excitement, pure joy and hey, look dudes, we were right, after going through lots of nonsense, it may sound like a bit of revenge due to this but i think that's quite fair.
Could you share the concept arts, betas and the Videos with me once they started coming out? There's absolutley no way for me to fund their project... Me from being Iran and all the sanctions stop me from doing so
Btw. how do you experience the sanctions in this respect exactly?
Oh and $1.3million passed. It slowed down significantly already but passing two million still sounds within reasonable reach.
Well, we are not allowed to have a bank account in the US, Paypal has blocked access for any IP from Iran and we're not allowed to have a Visa Card or a Master Card...
I don't know anyone in countries around Iran. Some of my relatives are outside of Iran. They're in Canada, Germany and Malaysia to be exact... But I don't think I can ask them for 15~30 dollars since dollar's value has increased a lot because of the sanctions. Just can't bring myself to do it. Too ashamed to do so... I may do that in the end seeing that's the only option...
True. Kotaku was a bit too harsh. :P
Telltale proved to be absolutely excellent in the past, and Kotaku is just taking advantages from the latest TT problems to put shame on them.
And the Double Fine vs Telltale debate it's just silly: if they release good games we would buy from both - there's almost no overlapping, just more fun games to play.
Still, it's sad that the magic "Lucasarts" effect was rather lost in most of their latest productions. I think that people sees in the Double Fine's project something that may return that magic back.
I'm SURE that Telltale will bring us some great game in the future - as they did in the past. But 1.200.000 dollars in one day means that right NOW there's a market of "old style customers" left aside while TT is struggling to find "new casual customers".
It's not revenge (for what? our lost money?), maybe there's some delusion about how TT is (chaotically) managing their businnes, and regret for what could have been BTTF, PA, L&O - even if I truly admire TT for their sperimentations. I'm just hoping they will not be commercially compromised by the latest failures, sadly in the adventure market it's rather easy to (see Autumn Moon).
After all, if we are talking HERE, it's because we all want the same thing: some great adventures.
And - BTW - I will surely put my money on the preorder of The Walking Dead too!
Well, if i notice that some material is freely available on the net, like on YouTube, i can inform you but i really would consider asking a mod on their forum for a possible solution.
I wasn't even aware that there exist such a sanction in this form against the Iran.
May i ask how old you are and how people feel about the sanction in your country?
They'll just pull what Kevin Smith did at the end of Clerks 2 and have a separate credit crawl after the production credits.:p
Thinking of Grim Fandango i wonder how good the music will be.
Remember the kickass OST from Grim Fandango?
I still can laugh about: big band, bebop and bones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BrVhSuGLA0&feature=related
Sam&Max2 also had this fat track, maybe the best tune TTG ever did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mt-p3yraFk&feature=related
I think the best way is to trade gift cards. Then I can give my account info on Amazon and Kickstarter so someone the trade card receiver can donate on my behalf.
There are services here that allow us to buy Amazon and iTunes gift cards indirectly.
Sure, You can see how old I am on my profile page here on TTForums.
The people, Well, The recent sanction were crippling in terms of Economy. But some hope that it'll eventually force the current regime to go. Some think it won't help that happen at all and if we want to change the regime, we have to do it ourselves.
May I ask why are you asking me this Taumel?