Again, Jake, how could they have no intention of referencing 9/11 if at the time of airring and production that event hadn't happen yet?
That's like the artists and writers of Captian America saying they did not intend one of their stories to reference Pearl Harbor six months before the actual attack happened. Unless someone has a time machine (notice how it tied back around to Season 2), nobody could have known at the time that those events would happen.
Again, Jake, how could they have no intention of referencing 9/11 if at the time of airring and production that event hadn't happen yet?
That's like the artists and writers of Captian America saying they did not intend one of their stories to reference Pearl Harbor six months before the actual attack happened. Unless someone has a time machine (notice how it tied back around to Season 2), nobody could have known at the time that those events would happen.
Having no intention means exactly that - it it something you did not plan to do. It doesn't imply that you were avoiding doing something. It's a complete absence of intention. That term is usually used, in hindsight, as some sort of dodge, but seriously, (and this is a retardedly semantic argument) they literally had zero intention to reference 9/11, yes, because it hadn't happened yet. I just slightly re-worded "didn't intend" to "had no intention" because that revised wording removes further ambiguity about it being used in the "I didn't intend to offend" after-the-fact dodge way.
this is making me dizzy...fact is the mentioned episode does bear a resemblance to 9/11, even if not intended, and was thus not shown on gametap. even if something is not a direct reference it may still be hurtful to some and sometimes self-censoring is in order. the missing episode is on the dvd and everybody is free to watch it if he/she deems it appropriate. i will.
Surprisingly, Gametape kept the intro to Dysfunction of Gods where the Empire State Building is struck by lightning twice and ends up having it's iconic top fall to the streets.
this is making me dizzy...fact is the mentioned episode does bear a resemblance to 9/11, even if not intended, and was thus not shown on gametap. even if something is not a direct reference it may still be hurtful to some and sometimes self-censoring is in order. the missing episode is on the dvd and everybody is free to watch it if he/she deems it appropriate. i will.
Indeed. 'Tis an interesting discussion, though. (Even though it's come down to semantics at this point)
The semantics argument above me makes zero sense. It would only apply if the phrase "they avoided" was used, which it wasn't. "Had no intention" indicates the absence of something whether it's possible for it to be present or not. But anyway...
Surprisingly, Gametape kept the intro to Dysfunction of Gods where the Empire State Building is struck by lightning twice and ends up having it's iconic top fall to the streets.
It's not that surprising. General destruction of NYC isn't really taboo anymore, as evidenced by Cloverfield and other films. But terrorists hijacking commercial aircraft and crashing them in NYC is naturally a bit more worrisome.
On the subject of unintentional uncanny similarities to 9/11, anyone remember the Osama Bin Laden scene in Family Guy's "Road To Rhode Island"? Stewie gets past airport security by singing "Good Ship Lollipop" and then remarks, "Let's hope Osama Bin Laden doesn't know showtunes." Then it shows Osama Bin Laden singing to get past airport security.
The amazing thing is, this aired a year BEFORE 9/11. It was removed from reruns of the episode, and it was even removed from the first DVD, but it does show up on the "best of" DVD. So basically they made a 9/11 joke without even knowing it. Seth McFarlane later commented that "The FBI should watch Family Guy more often." The whole thing is kind of eerie, really.
Talk of eerie, I think it was the pilot episode of the X-File-spinoff "The Lone Gunmen" showing terrorists hijacking an airplane to crash it into the WTC. And that was way before 9/11 as well. The FBI should watch more TV in general, so they don't have to say "no one thought of that!".
finally got the dvd-set...it's pretty neat. nice work mr. ward.
there are some minor flaws though: the menu for the individual episodes looks good and is animated fine, but flipping through it takes some time...but i guess that's a general problem of dvd-authoring.
the other are the dvd slim cases. they're making me kinda nervous. on the one two-disc case one of the "teeth" holding the disc broke off. just my luck, can't be helped i guess. the biggest problem however is that those two cases are a bit different, since the transparent foil holding the cover aren't the same, they don't allign properly. so, either i place the covers under there so they completely under the plastic, then one cover is nearly 2mm lower than the other or allign them properly and have one not fully covered, which is just as bad ocd-wise speaking.:D
as i said, great stuff. image quality is a lot better than expected.
btw, why is this one episode called "fools die on friday"? the story takes place on a saturday..
Bought the DVD Box, it's pretty neat. Having the bible and model-sheets available as PDFs is really cool. It was very nice to have at last the opportunity to watch the entire series (of which I only saw a handful of episodes when it aired in France). Too bad there wasn't even english subtitles, I think I'm missing a lot of jokes because sometimes it is not easy to decypher what the characters are actually saying
i didn't actually see it breaking. it just fell out when i opened the case and vanished into the carpet..
i guess this is a common weakness for all cd- and dvd-cases since the dawn of men...and a burden we have to bear until better, non-disc-shaped media are discovered.
Good to know, guys. This is actually a battle I've been fighting with the packaging folks for a while now. I have the same problem with thinpaks often. Now, I have ammo!
Great news, gang! For those that don't like the clunky, space-consuming inconvenience of physical goods, Sam & Max: Freelance Police!!!: The Complete Series has just become available for download at iTunes. Currently, the bonus materials aren't living there, but this may change at some point.
Still, it's a great way to download and carry your favorite episodes with you everywhere you go.
Great news, gang! For those that don't like the clunky, space-consuming inconvenience of physical goods, Sam & Max: Freelance Police!!!: The Complete Series has just become available for download at iTunes. Currently, the bonus materials aren't living there, but this may change at some point.
Still, it's a great way to download and carry your favorite episodes with you everywhere you go.
Enjoy!
Brian
Thanks for pointing that out! I'm going to have to grab a few when I get paid next week
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That's like the artists and writers of Captian America saying they did not intend one of their stories to reference Pearl Harbor six months before the actual attack happened. Unless someone has a time machine (notice how it tied back around to Season 2), nobody could have known at the time that those events would happen.
When the argument boils down to someone's grammar you know it's over.
Having no intention means exactly that - it it something you did not plan to do. It doesn't imply that you were avoiding doing something. It's a complete absence of intention. That term is usually used, in hindsight, as some sort of dodge, but seriously, (and this is a retardedly semantic argument) they literally had zero intention to reference 9/11, yes, because it hadn't happened yet. I just slightly re-worded "didn't intend" to "had no intention" because that revised wording removes further ambiguity about it being used in the "I didn't intend to offend" after-the-fact dodge way.
Indeed. 'Tis an interesting discussion, though. (Even though it's come down to semantics at this point)
It's not that surprising. General destruction of NYC isn't really taboo anymore, as evidenced by Cloverfield and other films. But terrorists hijacking commercial aircraft and crashing them in NYC is naturally a bit more worrisome.
The amazing thing is, this aired a year BEFORE 9/11. It was removed from reruns of the episode, and it was even removed from the first DVD, but it does show up on the "best of" DVD. So basically they made a 9/11 joke without even knowing it. Seth McFarlane later commented that "The FBI should watch Family Guy more often." The whole thing is kind of eerie, really.
there are some minor flaws though: the menu for the individual episodes looks good and is animated fine, but flipping through it takes some time...but i guess that's a general problem of dvd-authoring.
the other are the dvd slim cases. they're making me kinda nervous. on the one two-disc case one of the "teeth" holding the disc broke off. just my luck, can't be helped i guess. the biggest problem however is that those two cases are a bit different, since the transparent foil holding the cover aren't the same, they don't allign properly. so, either i place the covers under there so they completely under the plastic, then one cover is nearly 2mm lower than the other or allign them properly and have one not fully covered, which is just as bad ocd-wise speaking.:D
as i said, great stuff. image quality is a lot better than expected.
btw, why is this one episode called "fools die on friday"? the story takes place on a saturday..
That's funny. The exact same thing happened to me when I opened mine. It still seems to hold the disc in place securely enough, though.
Maybe it's some kind of subtle in-joke that completely escapes me.
i guess this is a common weakness for all cd- and dvd-cases since the dawn of men...and a burden we have to bear until better, non-disc-shaped media are discovered.
Ok, this is getting spooky. That's what mine did, too. (No, I'm not kidding.) I'll have to search that carpet when I get home.
I don't have it within reach at the moment, but I think it was on the left one, disc 1.
Sorry for the inconvenience, guys.
Brian
Still, it's a great way to download and carry your favorite episodes with you everywhere you go.
Enjoy!
Brian
Thanks for pointing that out! I'm going to have to grab a few when I get paid next week
well spoken.
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I love seeing these phonetic readings of badly spelled things.