Dang it! I don't see how book Lilly could be as cool as game Lilly, this really takes away a little bit of my desire to read the book. It feels really cheap to just declare game Lilly essentially a different character from who we were told she was when the game was released. Oh well, gmae Lilly will always be my #4.
humm grumble grumble i know the walking dead is robert kirkman's thing but if tell tale had done the same to him as in tell tale hearing about a character that kirkman was making then confirming they were designing a game to finish of the story of the character in the comic, then kirkman makes the character separates them from the story then tell tale says it is actually a game about a similar person but not the same one, i think kirkman would be mad, maybe even expensive lawyer mad, so it is a bad move of kirkmans to make them different people.
i thought they may be a bit different but it seems to be a different world or at least an alternate timeline than the game and the comic/book are set, unless it is just a whole different lilly that could actually meet the other lilly??
Well I haven't read it yet so I can't say for sure. The fact that none of the game characters is mentioned doesn't mean anything. She might have decided to not speak about them or lie about her father.
If that's not the case let's storm Kirkman's mail with angry fan letters
Well I haven't read it yet so I can't say for sure. The fact that none of the game characters is mentioned doesn't mean anything. She might have decided to not speak about them or lie about her father.
If that's not the case let's storm Kirkman's mail with angry fan letters
It's not, within the first two chapters you find out what happened to her dad (or I guess this version of her dad) and she's not speaking of it, she's remembering it so unless she's lying to herself, it's not the same lily.
I haven't read the book yet, but I read a review that said they were disappointed in this Lily because she's a very different character (less of a badass).
I haven't read the book yet, but I read a review that said they were disappointed in this Lily because she's a very different character (less of a badass).
Yeah, we knew her father would be different in this book. How about her character and personality?
Yeah but the back story of how he died is completely different and yeah her character isn't the same. she's very timid and anxious. but i suggest reading the book anyway
Yeah but the back story of how he died is completely different and yeah her character isn't the same. she's very timid and anxious. but i suggest reading the book anyway
Timid and anxious!!!
So Kirkman has definitely ignored everything to do with game Lilly. If I was Telltale I'd be pissed,they get the go ahead to create Lilly's backstory only for Kirkman to change his mind "I've now decided I can do better"
Telltale removing the line "one day Lilly will have a big impact on Rick's life", in their cast list, shows that she's a different Lilly,she isn't Lilly Caul anymore.
It seems that players who wanted to murder Lilly should of had the option after all...
So Kirkman has definitely ignored everything to do with game Lilly. If I was Telltale I'd be pissed,they get the go ahead to create Lilly's backstory only for Kirkman to change his mind "I've now decided I can do better"
Telltale removing the line "one day Lilly will have a big impact on Rick's life", in their cast list, shows that she's a different Lilly,she isn't Lilly Caul anymore. It seems that players who wanted to murder Lilly should of had the option after all...
Hilarious...
I am a noob when it comes to TWD, only seen the show and heard about what happens up to the prison in the comics. I'm not familiar with the comic characters but from my understanding this Lilly from the game was supposed to be the Lilly from the comics? But now this might not be the case? That sucks. Maybe Telltale's game can just be an alternate universe now and can feature Rick and co doing something different?
I'm going to assume that characters like Carley, Doug, Mark, and the St. John's are purely from the game right? No comic incarnations?
I'm going to assume that characters like Carley, Doug, Mark, and the St. John's are purely from the game right? No comic incarnations?
As well as Larry, Kenny, Lee, Clem, and pretty much everyone else. Aside from Hershel, Glenn, and Lilly nobody had any ties with the comics other than being set in the same universe.
As well as Larry, Kenny, Lee, Clem, and pretty much everyone else. Aside from Hershel, Glenn, and Lilly nobody had any ties with the comics other than being set in the same universe.
Thanks, figured as much. Would be kinda cool if some of these characters showed up in the comic/show. At least I'd think so.
I am a noob when it comes to TWD, only seen the show and heard about what happens up to the prison in the comics. I'm not familiar with the comic characters but from my understanding this Lilly from the game was supposed to be the Lilly from the comics? But now this might not be the case? That sucks. Maybe Telltale's game can just be an alternate universe now and can feature Rick and co doing something different?
I'm going to assume that characters like Carley, Doug, Mark, and the St. John's are purely from the game right? No comic incarnations?
Glenn and Herschel are in the game,comics and show and Telltale originally got permission to write about Lilly as if she was the same one as the comic character but Robert KirKman(the creator) later decided he wanted to write a book about Lilly's backstory himself.
Which means that game Lilly is now a differnt Lilly?!
I suppose,unless Telltale decide to do more with their Lilly, players who read the comics but not the books can choose to make game Lilly canon if they want.
The others are all original game characters.
The book arrived for me this morning...
I'll read it but it's a big disappointment that the Lilly's don't match now.
Shawn is a comic book character as well. That's why you can't save him in ep. 1 no matter what
Yeah, well it is kinda sad. Lilly's story in the game was the perfect background of both the book and the comics. Kirkman turned a potentially strong character and story into a "meh" situation... I don't think that was a smart choice on his part. He could've done it easily. Just mention what Kenny does to her father and it's fine. In all players' choices Kenny is the one to kill Larry. She doesn't have to remember about Lee or Carley/Doug... He could've just mentioned the accident later, without being specific as to who Lilly killed. Seriously it wouldn't have been that difficult.
Am I imagining things or are people much more supportive of Lilly now that ep.3 is in the past? Especially after some of them realized what an asshole Kenny is I'm definitely sure I see more people posting stuff like "I like Lilly, she was cool".
I am a big fan of Carley and even though I was pissed at Lilly for what she did, I do still like her. Lilly was doing was she thought was best for the group, it was wrong, but she had the right intentions.
Am I imagining things or are people much more supportive of Lilly now that ep.3 is in the past? Especially after some of them realized what an asshole Kenny is I'm definitely sure I see more people posting stuff like "I like Lilly, she was cool".
Well, I must say I'm one of these people. When we were with her, I always tried to be neutral on her discussions with Kenny, but when I didn't have to pick sides, I tried to be nice to both of them. But after episode 2, I found myself leaning more towards pro-Lilly choices when she and Kenny were arguing, but remained willing to regain Kenny's friendship, even though his behaviour was pushing me away. But Lillly was still a decent person in the end, even though she messed up big time by shooting Doug, at least she had good intentions and showed regret afterwards.
After seeing Kenny on episode 4... to me, at least, it seems he just doesn't care about people. The only time he showed some kind of remorse was before he smashed Larry's head in. Since I didn't help him do it, he left me to die later on episode 2 and on the beginning of episode 3. Then he was eager to kick Lilly out of the RV, as if her snapping had absolutely nothing to do with some of his past actions, and on episode 4 he doesn't even want to consider taking Molly on the boat even though she saves his life ("What has she done for me lately?"). And then he wanted me to just drop Ben from the bell tower and go, which is understandable, but still very wrong. That was it for me.
Seeing how Kenny is now really does make me miss Lilly.
....traded with the Bandits.
....Left Clem.
....Gave you an Axe.
....decided to come out at the worst possible time ever.
Lovin' those good intentions.
1 vs 4 at least
Still what she did outweighs these (in a horrible way) as a single act but she has contributed more to the group than Ben. I did keep him alive by the way.
Lilly was such an interesting character. Siding in the meat locker with her ruined my relationship with Kenny probably for the whole game, while it changed my relationship with her only until the beginning of episode 3. Let's have her come back in season 2!
Yeah, I wished siding with Lilly in the meat locker would have had more impact on Lilly as a character. The same way Kenny listened to me or disregarded my advice I expected Lilly to listen to me in Ep. 3, which is why she continued to let me down when she couldn´t trust me.
I couldn´t bring myself to leave her by the side of the road after she had been a friend of mine, but I didn´t know what to do with her. When she tried to steal the RV, I told her to stop, while hoping she´d finally take a word I said in that episode. She kicked me out and stole it anyway.
And for what? In the end, it turns out she isn´t even the same Lilly from the comics. I hope they bring her back for season 2, I really loved her a character.
How was it? I heard it wasn't even remotely like The Walking Dead. Plus Lilly's backstory change pretty much prevents me from buying it.
Dunno yet, I will start it in a few days. I've been quite busy the last month and didn't really have any desire to read at all
However, I just finished the Rise of the Governor a few hours ago and I must say I really liked it. I hope the second one is at least as good as this one.
I know that won't be our Lilly in the book but as long the storytelling is good, I won't really care that much.
I've read both books. The rise of the governor was actually pretty good. It was interesting to see a group of characters actually do smart things and work together as a team. I liked that things seemed to be going well for the group until a few mistakes were made and guilt set in. Then things went downhill pretty fast.
The road to woodbury was not that good. Lilly's backstory was nothing remotely close to the one TTG/Kirkman introduced in the video game. That would be okay for a book if her backstory was better but it was not. It was not all that convincing. Why not use the TTG backstory and instead use a worse backstory. Her character in the story was okay for most of the book as just a regular walking dead story goes but then her character changed suddenly and other characters then did things that were inconsistent with their characters as well. It just became unconvincing all around.
Lilly fuckin' killed Carley unmercifully although she was trustworthy and LILLY KNEW IT WASN'T HER. TEAM LEE TO THE END **10 nuclear bombs explode as an expression of my madness**
Stop trying to avoid direction questions at you because you knew Carley didn't deserve to die and yet you know that by justifying her lack of presence in Episode 2, whatever, your support in Lilly is ridiculous.
Just think at the start... She was leading to group before Team lee entered. Lily decided to let lee's team join the group and although it was more mouths to feed she still hung by it.
You enter another team... you play by there rules.
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Cool that another person have the same feeling about it
BTW, when is this special book about Lilly comming out ? (I'm from germany, but need it when it comes out)
I still consider game Lilly (comic book Lilly) because when Telltale created her, they still though they were making the canon Lilly.
Seriously, a red post will be much appreciated.
I think it was released yesterday.
i thought they may be a bit different but it seems to be a different world or at least an alternate timeline than the game and the comic/book are set, unless it is just a whole different lilly that could actually meet the other lilly??
If that's not the case let's storm Kirkman's mail with angry fan letters
There went my interest in the book.
I like THIS Lilly.....
It's not, within the first two chapters you find out what happened to her dad (or I guess this version of her dad) and she's not speaking of it, she's remembering it so unless she's lying to herself, it's not the same lily.
From what I've read so far, this seems true. ):
Yeah but the back story of how he died is completely different and yeah her character isn't the same. she's very timid and anxious. but i suggest reading the book anyway
Timid and anxious!!!
So Kirkman has definitely ignored everything to do with game Lilly. If I was Telltale I'd be pissed,they get the go ahead to create Lilly's backstory only for Kirkman to change his mind "I've now decided I can do better"
Telltale removing the line "one day Lilly will have a big impact on Rick's life", in their cast list, shows that she's a different Lilly,she isn't Lilly Caul anymore.
It seems that players who wanted to murder Lilly should of had the option after all...
Hilarious...
I am a noob when it comes to TWD, only seen the show and heard about what happens up to the prison in the comics. I'm not familiar with the comic characters but from my understanding this Lilly from the game was supposed to be the Lilly from the comics? But now this might not be the case? That sucks. Maybe Telltale's game can just be an alternate universe now and can feature Rick and co doing something different?
I'm going to assume that characters like Carley, Doug, Mark, and the St. John's are purely from the game right? No comic incarnations?
As well as Larry, Kenny, Lee, Clem, and pretty much everyone else. Aside from Hershel, Glenn, and Lilly nobody had any ties with the comics other than being set in the same universe.
Thanks, figured as much. Would be kinda cool if some of these characters showed up in the comic/show. At least I'd think so.
Glenn and Herschel are in the game,comics and show and Telltale originally got permission to write about Lilly as if she was the same one as the comic character but Robert KirKman(the creator) later decided he wanted to write a book about Lilly's backstory himself.
Which means that game Lilly is now a differnt Lilly?!
I suppose,unless Telltale decide to do more with their Lilly, players who read the comics but not the books can choose to make game Lilly canon if they want.
The others are all original game characters.
The book arrived for me this morning...
I'll read it but it's a big disappointment that the Lilly's don't match now.
Now she can be the lead for season 2 since she's not comic Lily.
Kirkman sucks though. I wonder how many people ordered the book because of the game?
Yeah, well it is kinda sad. Lilly's story in the game was the perfect background of both the book and the comics. Kirkman turned a potentially strong character and story into a "meh" situation... I don't think that was a smart choice on his part. He could've done it easily. Just mention what Kenny does to her father and it's fine. In all players' choices Kenny is the one to kill Larry. She doesn't have to remember about Lee or Carley/Doug... He could've just mentioned the accident later, without being specific as to who Lilly killed. Seriously it wouldn't have been that difficult.
Am I imagining things or are people much more supportive of Lilly now that ep.3 is in the past? Especially after some of them realized what an asshole Kenny is I'm definitely sure I see more people posting stuff like "I like Lilly, she was cool".
You just crack my up.
....traded with the Bandits.
....Left Clem.
....Gave you an Axe.
....decided to come out at the worst possible time ever.
Lovin' those good intentions.
Don't worry everything else is still canon to the walking dead universe, you'll be pleased to know that only this Lilly's story has been changed.
Well, I must say I'm one of these people. When we were with her, I always tried to be neutral on her discussions with Kenny, but when I didn't have to pick sides, I tried to be nice to both of them. But after episode 2, I found myself leaning more towards pro-Lilly choices when she and Kenny were arguing, but remained willing to regain Kenny's friendship, even though his behaviour was pushing me away. But Lillly was still a decent person in the end, even though she messed up big time by shooting Doug, at least she had good intentions and showed regret afterwards.
After seeing Kenny on episode 4... to me, at least, it seems he just doesn't care about people. The only time he showed some kind of remorse was before he smashed Larry's head in. Since I didn't help him do it, he left me to die later on episode 2 and on the beginning of episode 3. Then he was eager to kick Lilly out of the RV, as if her snapping had absolutely nothing to do with some of his past actions, and on episode 4 he doesn't even want to consider taking Molly on the boat even though she saves his life ("What has she done for me lately?"). And then he wanted me to just drop Ben from the bell tower and go, which is understandable, but still very wrong. That was it for me.
Seeing how Kenny is now really does make me miss Lilly.
1 vs 4 at least
Still what she did outweighs these (in a horrible way) as a single act but she has contributed more to the group than Ben. I did keep him alive by the way.
I couldn´t bring myself to leave her by the side of the road after she had been a friend of mine, but I didn´t know what to do with her. When she tried to steal the RV, I told her to stop, while hoping she´d finally take a word I said in that episode. She kicked me out and stole it anyway.
And for what? In the end, it turns out she isn´t even the same Lilly from the comics. I hope they bring her back for season 2, I really loved her a character.
How was it? I heard it wasn't even remotely like The Walking Dead. Plus Lilly's backstory change pretty much prevents me from buying it.
Dunno yet, I will start it in a few days. I've been quite busy the last month and didn't really have any desire to read at all
However, I just finished the Rise of the Governor a few hours ago and I must say I really liked it. I hope the second one is at least as good as this one.
I know that won't be our Lilly in the book but as long the storytelling is good, I won't really care that much.
The road to woodbury was not that good. Lilly's backstory was nothing remotely close to the one TTG/Kirkman introduced in the video game. That would be okay for a book if her backstory was better but it was not. It was not all that convincing. Why not use the TTG backstory and instead use a worse backstory. Her character in the story was okay for most of the book as just a regular walking dead story goes but then her character changed suddenly and other characters then did things that were inconsistent with their characters as well. It just became unconvincing all around.
And the guy "Viser" above has much points. He has proven with his comments that he is wiser, too
Cheers!
Stop trying to avoid direction questions at you because you knew Carley didn't deserve to die and yet you know that by justifying her lack of presence in Episode 2, whatever, your support in Lilly is ridiculous.
You enter another team... you play by there rules.