[SPOILERS]Ben's character and deeds

edited January 2013 in The Walking Dead
Either you saved Carley or Doug. These great characters shall be avenged. Yeah, Lilly killed them, BUT Ben was giving the extra stuff to the bandits, wich caused the whole thing.

These were great characters, ones who shouldn't be forgotten. Ben, a stupid little teenager who is more scared of everything then a 12 year old.

Please, by joining this thread, you 100% guarantee that you WILL kill Ben, at the first time you get.
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  • edited August 2012
    ..save carley.
  • edited August 2012
    I was nice to him, but really don't give a shit if he dies?
  • edited August 2012
    He will die anyways next episode.
  • edited August 2012
    FoxxyFox wrote: »
    He will die anyways next episode.

    For some reason. Cretins like Ben always seem to survive.
  • edited August 2012
    Well perhaps a damn hot blonde zombie or "Jenny Pitcher" will seduce him and then... bite ;) He is a student and I don't know... in the typical american horror movies they die in a kinda odd situation ;)

    Anyways Ben did bring absolutley nothing to the table so if he goes away I wouldn't care. lol :D
  • edited August 2012
    You know, every time I feel like I want to kill a character off, by the time their tickets do come up, I feel really bad for them. xD

    Larry- Hated the guy throughout episode one. Still didn't care too much for him by episode two, but when it came to an attempt in saving his life or simply killing him, I can't help but try to save him. And when his mouth began to move, and suddenly a salt lick drops down, I was surprised at how much I didn't want him to die.

    Duck- Annoying as hell through the first two episodes, but this episode they made him kind of cute. His whole Dick Grayson/ Robin spiel was adorable, not to mention that if you high five him, Duck totally thinks you are awesome. xD

    Now I really don't like Ben since he caused Carley or Doug's death depending on who was alive, but I can understand why he did what he did. He thought the bandits had his friend (never said the kid was smart), and he just wanted to help. He got in over his head and now it has caught up with him.

    I get the feeling that Telltale likes to make us hate people and then feel incredibly bad for doing so. xD
    Like Kenny. Guy, I really started to dislike him. xD And by the end of this episode, I felt really bad for him.
  • edited August 2012
    Save Carley/Doug.....KILL BEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
  • edited August 2012
    100 percent in favor off killing ben for stealing the group suppliys
  • edited August 2012
    So it's been confirmed that Ben did betray the group ?
  • edited August 2012
    j.em26 wrote: »
    So it's been confirmed that Ben did betray the group ?

    Yes, he was the one who was leaving supplies for the bandits.

    He thought they were holding one of his friends captive.
  • edited August 2012
    Carley... Q_Q *sob*

    Ben is dead as soon as possible.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited August 2012
    Ben you cost me Carley and Lily. If you die or not is solely up to how you act around Clem and how she approves of you.
  • edited August 2012
    he his dead the first chance i get. Carley and Clem were the only people i liked in the group. i wanted to push him off the train so bad.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited August 2012
    Ben and Lily actually did some of us a favor. Those who were thinking with the other big head might think they could get some action with Lily or Carley while still protecting Clementine were dividing their efforts. Now we can focus one hundred percent on Clem. Also if Ben had let us in on the plan we could have laid a trap for the bandits.
  • edited August 2012
    I disagree with a lot of you, obviously there is no denying Ben did wrong HOWEVER he did it for the group and he clearly was sincere in helping the group. I dont see how you guys dont see this.

    One, he was stealing in hopes to keep the bandits happy and thus ensure the safety and well-being of the group.

    Two, besides that he was grateful for the group for letting them in, I mean what was he supposed to do to show his loyalty.

    Three, he told Lee it was him! Now this matters especially more if you told him that you were going to jail before... which I did. Point is, he trusts you and that is invaluable apparently in this game.

    All in all, I loved Carly (she was my favorite character) and obviously Ben should be held accountable for his actions but hes not a bad kid and he still can be an asset to the group.
  • edited August 2012
    Ben's really weak. We've seen that throughout.

    I don't want to get into justifying or condemning his actions, but his weakness is a common denominator in a lot of problems. He's going to cause something else eventually. Maybe it'll be soon, maybe it'll kill him.
  • edited August 2012
    Ben can die.. he'll be useful to have around as a shield or as walkerbait so we can get away!
  • edited August 2012
    lol at title...


    yeah, ben is walker bait. i dont see how he can redeem himself. and after all of that, he don't even have any fight in him, "i'm going to punch my own card out if a walker gets me"... no you wont ben... no YOU wont...
  • edited August 2012
    i question protecting clem in ep4 is she has another 'protector' is lee really going to have much luck ?

    i do hope clem isn't doing an anakin skywalker...
  • edited August 2012
    If the game gives me the chance to kill ben, I will make the incident on the st john's farm look like Disney land
  • edited August 2012
    i question protecting clem in ep4 is she has another 'protector' is lee really going to have much luck ?

    I do hope clem isn't doing an anakin skywalker...

    you were the chosen one clementine you were suppose to rely on lee to get to savannah not some creepy radio guy!

    Clem: I hate you!!!
  • edited August 2012
    Remorse it's enough punishment for the kid. We don't need more deaths. Killing Ben won't give me Carley back.

    However I don't trust on him anymore.
  • edited August 2012
    I NEVER liked Ben, from the git-go he seemed like a chump, Lee should have thrown the little traitorous bitch off the train!:mad:
  • edited August 2012
    Either you saved Carley or Doug. These great characters shall be avenged. Yeah, Lilly killed them, BUT Ben was giving the extra stuff to the bandits, wich caused the whole thing.

    These were great characters, ones who shouldn't be forgotten. Ben, a stupid little teenager who is more scared of everything then a 12 year old.

    Please, by joining this thread, you 100% guarantee that you WILL kill Ben, at the first time you get.

    Yes i WILL kill him. When the chance comes out, i will even post a screenshot of it.

    SAVE CARLEY PROJECT PLEASE :(
  • edited August 2012
    I don't think all the clever writing in the world will make me forgive Ben for getting Carley killed. I never hesitated in leaving Lilly behind and I would have thrown Ben from the train if given the chance.
  • edited August 2012
    Damn, are you the guys that lynch people because you're angry? Ben simply tried to help the group. An eye for an eye...
  • edited August 2012
    Lilly was immortal due to her comics appearance.

    I want THE OPTIONS to make Ben suffer.

    And then I want to kill him myself.
  • edited August 2012
    I wanted to kick him off the train King Leonidas style. Telltale, why was this not an option?
  • edited August 2012
    THIS - IS - HACKNEYED!!!i!!!
  • edited August 2012
    Peace&Love wrote: »
    Damn, are you the guys that lynch people because you're angry? Ben simply tried to help the group. An eye for an eye...

    No, Ben was being a selfish fuck. The bandits said they had his friend so he stole from the group in stead of letting the group know and handling it. His idiocy got 3 people killed indirectly and led to Lily leaving/being left behind. There is a target on his back in my eyes.
  • edited August 2012
    I will be really disappointed if TT doesn't include a point to which i can decide ben's fate. Personally, when I found out it was really Ben stashing the supplies I wanted him out right then and there. Lilly's point of stealing supplies is like sneaking into your room and slitting your throat is dead on. Because Ben didn't man up, Carley lost her life.
  • edited August 2012
    I think he'll probably die while saving someone else's life. That would be "about square" to quote the Bride from Kill Bill.
  • edited August 2012
    Luckycharm wrote: »
    I think he'll probably die while saving someone else's life. That would be "about square" to quote the Bride from Kill Bill.

    This would be the only way I would regain any respect for Ben.
  • edited August 2012
    I want Ben to die and I would do it myself but that goes against everything I've been teaching Clem. I will NOT hestitate to murder the person on the walkie if they harm her in ANY though.
  • edited August 2012
    I honestly can't understand why so many people are mad at Ben for Carley/Doug's death. IMO, the fault for that is 100% on Lilly. Okay, it was Ben's deal with the bandits that set things in motion leading to that point. But there's no way he could have predicted Lilly becoming so completely unhinged and murdering someone in the group for absolutely no good reason. He didn't force that psycho to pull the trigger. In fact, he was trying to talk her down.

    And really, Ben's deal with the bandits was probably the only thing that kept them from attacking the motel sooner than they did. The only thing I can really fault him for is not coming to the group and telling them about it when he first made the deal. But even that's pretty understandable if you think about it from his perspective. Lilly wanted to toss him back out to the walkers from the start. Kenny was against bringing him back to the motel, and he openly insults Ben's ability to contribute. We'd already seen that Kenny's willing to kill people in the group if there's even a slight possibility that they pose a threat. Even when Lee and Carley talk about him, you can tell from the way they talk that they don't think much of him. With folks as welcoming as them, why would Ben trust them? Treat a guy like an outsider long enough, and eventually, that's how he's going to start seeing himself.

    Personally, I still trust Ben more than I trust Kenny. Especially after the way that Kenny didn't even lift a finger to help Lee while he was being attacked by a pile of walkers at the beginning of Episode 3. At least with Ben, even when he screwed up, he was still genuinely trying to help.
  • edited August 2012
    I think Ben is stupid and made a mistake but does he really deserve death for one MISTAKE? He didn't knowingly cause someones death. I mean pretty much every person in the group has done something just as bad if not worse by this stage.

    I would feel less sorry for him if Lily had of shot him instead of Carley/Doug but after that incident there's been enough death and we're running out of people from the original group.
  • edited August 2012
    we're running out of people from the original group.

    Exactly all the more reason Ben should have died instead of Carley.
  • edited August 2012
    I don't know when I look at Ben I'm just reminded of what happened to Carley, Katjaa and Duck. Though he didn't pull the trigger he was indirectly responsible for what happened.

    Because of this I just can't grow to like him but i don't think he deserves to die. He's just a naive and scared kid who still has not adjusted to his circumstances. Also you'd be doing Carley and Doug a huge disservice by murdering him, since they both stood up for him.

    If Lee has the option to save him from something i'll take it, but after that he's on his own. If i have the option I'm just going to just let Lee travel with Clem.
  • edited August 2012
    darham175 wrote: »
    Exactly all the more reason Ben should have died instead of Carley.

    I consider Ben as being from the original group now. Once you've been with the group for almost 2 whole episodes you're pretty much family.
  • edited August 2012
    Family doesn't sell out family. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the guy who thinks bandits are honest and trustworthy people who arent lying about his friend. Ben vs. Duck "my dad said I'm dumber than a bag of hammers" whatever his last name is, I say Duck is smarter.
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