Walking Dead isn't about shooting... the game is a shooter
Hints at Kinect
made by the guys behind Kinect Star Wars
I think I can assume its not going to be that good.
-The game isnt a shooter, its even called a "First Person Adventure".
-Just because you dont like Kinect doesnt mean others dont. I know that hating on Kinect is the "cool thing" to do nowadays, but assuming every Kinect game is bad is just ignorant.
-See above^.
You can assume it wont be good. Thats still your opinion.
Believe it or not, just because you dont like something, doesnt mean it's bad.
-Just because you dont like Kinect doesnt mean others dont. I know that hating on Kinect is the "cool thing" to do nowadays, but assuming every Kinect game is bad is just ignorant.
-See above^.
Aww how cute, you think I'm bashing the kinect because everyone is doing it.
No, I hate on the kinect because I own the thing, and have played many games for the kinect because the idea seemed great, of them, the only game that ever worked was Kinect Sports.
BTW, on the "Assuming every kinect game is bad is just ignorant" I've only seen one good kinect game(Sports). The fact that nearly every other kinect game flat out fails can be a great assumption that it won't work here as well.
Maybe if the devs only use the Kinect for voice recognition it could be fine(That is pretty spot on for me), but the kinect just barely works any other way.
Now back on topic, I still don't think this game will be any good
anyway dont worry about kinect since its going to be for PS3, Xbox and pc as well so kinect isnt going to be a important part of it. sort of like kinect with skyrim, or mass effect 3.
Well half of that reply didn't really make any sense, so i'll ignore those parts.
As for the parts I understood:
I haven't played the game yet, no. I'm not saying it's going to be good. I'm just giving it the benefit of the doubt until i'm proven wrong. I'm basing my initial opinion on the description of the game on the official website, which mentions using stealth, managing supplies and making decisions, amongst other things.
The people already hating the game are hating it based on other first person shooters that have nothing to do with this game. Even though this game doesn't even sound as though it's going to be the mindless fps that you're all already pegging it as, for some unknown reason.
Also, who says they're looking for trouble with hordes of zombies??! They're just trying to get to Atlanta, they're not out zombie hunting.
Ok, where did you read that "official game description" you speak about?
This first-person action game allows players to assume the role of the crossbow-wielding survivor Daryl Dixon, alongside his brother Merle, on a haunting, unforgiving quest to make their way to the supposed safety of Atlanta.
The Walking Dead video game takes the undead and brings them out of the TV show and into console gaming systems in a terrifying way. The iconic walkers will relentlessly hunt down players like their television counterparts, using a combination of sight, sound and smell. As Daryl, players will need to tread carefully throughout each new area they explore. Once discovered, it doesn't take much to attract an unstoppable horde of undead walkers, so every threat needs to be assessed, and every situation analyzed. Players will have to choose between whether to stay and fight while risking a gruesome death or using stealth to avoid the undead. No place is truly safe for Daryl as he makes his way through the Georgia countryside in this new, post-apocalyptic world.
Returning to your post: "The people already hating the game are hating it based on other first person shooters that have nothing to do with thisgame"
How do you know this? Do you have seen the game? Are you developing it?
I'm still not hating the game, maybe I will buy it, who knows? But I have a bad feeling about this.
You should listen to yourself and make no statements about this game yet. Good or bad.
-The game isnt a shooter, its even called a "First Person Adventure".
-Just because you dont like Kinect doesnt mean others dont. I know that hating on Kinect is the "cool thing" to do nowadays, but assuming every Kinect game is bad is just ignorant.
-See above^.
Returning to your post: "The people already hating the game are hating it based on other first person shooters that have nothing to do with thisgame"
How do you know this? Do you have seen the game? Are you developing it?
I'm still not hating the game, maybe I will buy it, who knows? But I have a bad feeling about this.
You should listen to yourself and make no statements about this game yet. Good or bad.
That's the official press release from Activision. Which is what I was talking about. Makes no difference which website it's on.
Stop asking whether i've already played the game or whether i'm developing it. It makes you sound foolish. All the information i've supplied regarding the game, has come directly from the Activision press-release, which again is right there for anyone who cares to read it. I've made no assumptions, just stated exactly what they have said. Unlike those that have assumed it's going to be a mindless 'blast a million zombies a second' bore-fest. Despite evidence to the contrary.
Other fps have nothing to do with this game. It's not a sequel to any game. That's not to say it won't end up being similar to other fps. I'm saying that you have no experience of any Walking Dead games of this ilk. It isn't related to any other fps on the market, so it has nothing to do with them.
I'm merely pointing out the facts from the press release about the game, that imply it isn't going to the mindless first person shooter you all fear. I haven't offered any sort of opinion as to whether it'll be good or bad, so I don't even know what you're talking about. I have no idea how good it'll be.
I'm arguing against those that are already writing it off, without having even seen the slightest part of it.
Look on the bright side, we might get a thriller dance! /sarcasm
Well actually im not in support of the game being an FPS, but i would not mind if the game took first in first person but was still a narrative focused experience, hopefully with minimized shooting.
Also, if this is TWD chances are that Kirkman is involved, I'm sure he won't let them screw his IP like that.
Other fps have nothing to do with this game. It's not a sequel to any game. That's not to say it won't end up being similar to other fps. I'm saying that you have no experience of any Walking Dead games of this ilk. It isn't related to any other fps on the market, so it has nothing to do with them.
Ok wait a minute. He said no one is criticising the game because of other shooters, so why do you feel like you need to immediately defend the game saying it has nothing to do with other shooters? We know that.
BTW, we can have opinions on this game, so far it looks like it flat out ignores what WD is, we have the right to have that stand.
I love the TT Walking Dead game and how it all works.
I have Left 4 Dead but never play it anymore, Just hate the super-zombie thing.
I have been thinking I wish someone would make a game like TWD but with a more FPA option. I mean, Like having Lee on a rooftop with a rifle, maybe with a scope and silencer just for the fun of sniping zombies.
So I'm kinda looking foreward to this, If they keep it true to TWD world, give us more control of our character's than just following the story-line. Allow us to travel in and out of the cities of our own will, maybe join a group or keep solo if we want.
I was imagining something like a World of Warcraft environment.. Imagine a full continant like Duotar, but with modern cities and landscapes, where you have full roam of it all. Places you can go to hide out, but you still need to gather food and water, find weapons, gas.. Really put your character in TWD world.
No real quest's or grinding for anything, just living and surviving. No level's ultra powerful items, but hey, if you discover an abandoned .50 cal, why not take it and mount it on the roof of your safehouse.
I remember the finale of season 1, TS-19, when the group goes to the CDC, they walk past a .50 cal with ammo.. why didnt they take that and attach it to the top of the RV? I know, too many walkers at that moment, Point is, I would be looting any/all weapons I could if in that world.
My common sense is tingling. This is the game that everyone wanted instead of TTG's, but no-one will like. Sucks to be you guys, I'm going to talk to Clem! ^_^
is the walking dead activision version going to be about the comics or the tv show or telltale games version of the walking dead
The Activision game is in partnership with AMC, the creators of the TV show. Telltale's game is in partnership with Skybound, the creators of the comic. Separate continuities.
I fear for Walking Dead when I heard Activition is running the other game of the title.
Their solution to everything is pure combat action...
at least all my games with their name on it, seem to be combat oriented even for non-combat stories.
Star Trek is the biggest example, there's no diplomacy (sure got 1 or 2 just to keep fans quiet)
but the rest of the way its shoot ur way through. Almost infinite monsters popping out of no logical places...
That's for the Shooter genre, in its RTS they just throw in a whole bunch of ships that we'll never touch... just for show.
No balance what soever, just go capital ships throughout the game, who needs the smaller ships...
Borg Spheres are wuss only Cubes & Tactical Cubes are worth anything... Not to mentioned, Fusion Cubes just get 1 & u win the map...
& it ain't hard to get 1, grab the 1st 8 Cubes & join them... bam 1 floating idol of OPness
Walking Dead by Activision
If there's any choices in Walking Dead by Activision, it'll be, shoot the head or everywhere else.
Difference?
Head = dead
Everywhere else = still up & walking
lol
I hope I'm exaggerating...
Can someone point out some games by them that's not combat oriented? I mean really worth playing, just because it doesn't shoot doesn't mean its good...
Every new's page is advertising this as an FPS i don't think theres even a FPA category in today's gaming
"First-person adventure" is an extremely difficult genre to categorize.
The obvious definition would be "An adventure game in first-person," like Myst, but that's pretty narrow and doesn't fit a lot of stuff that gets labelled as an FPA.
Nintendo insisted that Metroid Prime was an FPA and not an FPS, and that makes sense. True, it's first-person, and you shoot things, but it's got far more in common with Zelda than any given FPS. In fact, with the whole auto-lock-on system, Metroid Prime is kind of crappy if you judge it as an FPS (not that you should, mind you). Of course, that sets the precedent that an FPA can involve shooting while still not being an FPS.
What about Deus Ex? It's first-person, and you shoot things, but it has elements of a stealth game and RPG too, and exploration and story are much bigger priorities than combat. (Especially since combat in general is pretty ineffective, at least early in the game.)
What about BioShock? Its gameplay is pretty close to that of a traditional FPS, much moreso than Metroid Prime and Deus Ex. But there's still a heavy emphasis on exploration and story. Is it an FPS? An FPA? Both?
Video game genres in general are a pretty difficult thing to classify, especially since there are so many games that blur the line. Long story short, "first-person adventure" is pretty subjective.
Well, the teaser doesn't really show us what kind of game this new TWD shooter will be... but I can safely say, if it's going to be a fast-paced zombie shooter, then I'll stick to Left 4 Dead, thank you. If it's going to be something else, then we'll see
If you truly have the option of fighting or avoiding zombies and other people the game could be really cool if done correctly.
Ya, games like
Sneaking
Fallout 3/NewVegas, Skyrim, & other games alike r good sneaking examples to avoid a battle. Just need to twitch it up a bit for zombies. That should be easier to avoid right? right?? lol
other non adventure sneaking games
Deus Ex, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, etc. great games that can win without a single takedown...
even in Deus Ex: Human Revolution's version of a zombie moment can avoid them all without them detecting u (without cloak)
Zombie Hunting
the game should have the basic rules in zombie hunting...
don't bleed, make much noise, & so on...
should have achievements for great zombie hunter, as in kill via the head & all for knowing what ur doing... instead of randomly shooting the body... & wasting bullets...
Hands man, use ur hands like Lee
HtH combat is vital, dun want a game where u dun have weapons & can't do squat... but stare at them.
any Everyday items counts
the old Fallout 1 & 2 are great in terms of using whatever u can find (broken bottles, tire irons, plunger, etc.
like Dead Island, but PLEASE!!!
I don't know what's wrong with Dead Island's programing, but it made my 3D card noisy & that's a brand new card that ran every other game top graphics smoothly...
now after playing that game even for a few minutes than uninstalling it, it buzzes with other games now...
PLEASE don't make the same mistake as they did...
whatever that is...
Conversations
To me that's important, & not just to listen to random "we're going to die" or "hero" crap
but stuff that actually effect the story or ur relationship with other NPCs.
Don't want to hear the main character say this even once.
"Never fear, I'll protect you..." blam blam blam (with a big grin on the face)
"Leave this to me..."
lol
well they can say that, just watch their tone & facial expressions...
It can be done properly... & not look like a joke.
Being "Kinect" compatible, I can see this meaning one of three things:
Commands to NPCs with your voice
Stupid motion controls
"On rails" gameplay
Commands to NPCs could be alright, the others.. I imagine will make a pretty shit game.
The TV series is nowhere near as good as the comic, the TTG game is based on the comic and is brilliant, really captures what it's all about. A TV series based game, published by Activision no less, I can't imagine will be about pleasing fans of the comics, the TTG game or even really the tv series to an extent. I think this is a cheap cash in to make money at Christmas.
If it turns out to be half decent I'll get it as a fan of TWD, but if it's what I expect it to be, I'll be waiting for it to hit the bargain bin. I don't think I'll be waiting too long, either.
Ok wait a minute. He said no one is criticising the game because of other shooters, so why do you feel like you need to immediately defend the game saying it has nothing to do with other shooters? We know that.
BTW, we can have opinions on this game, so far it looks like it flat out ignores what WD is, we have the right to have that stand.
This.
I only say that I have a bad feeling about this. Cheap game production, FPS... I hope that I'm wrong but this doesn't sound good. If ChickVelcro wants to defend the game he (or she) it's free to doing it but it's such a nonsense like the guys saying that it will be a bad game.
Bethesda made a good, open ended first person game, but I find it's hard to put something in first person without accidentally hitting the "rock and roll" switch and making it about mowing hordes of enemies. You can, possibly. But I have no faith in survival horror with an action focus.
I'm definitely withholding judgment until there's more info about it and I see some gameplay because to judge it before that is premature.
I'll admit, that I'm definitely interested to see more of Daryl and Merle. I'm also interested in seeing the direction that they take the limited things that have been revealed like the dialogue, sneaking, etc.
Bethesda made a good, open ended first person game, but I find it's hard to put something in first person without accidentally hitting the "rock and roll" switch and making it about mowing hordes of enemies. You can, possibly. But I have no faith in survival horror with an action focus.
I recall a game with a lady & a little girl, 3rd person style.
survival game... not sure if they're blood related.
they have to hide, sometimes can tell the girl to stay under a table or in a closet while u go out to investigate...
Does anyone know about that game & what its title is?
Comments
I want to point out the words "Kinect"...
My "I have a bad feeling about this" is REALLY looking true...
Okay? You have a bad feeling about it. Obviously that's already true, I dont see how it could be true-er. Doesnt mean it wont be a good game.
I think I can assume its not going to be that good.
-The game isnt a shooter, its even called a "First Person Adventure".
-Just because you dont like Kinect doesnt mean others dont. I know that hating on Kinect is the "cool thing" to do nowadays, but assuming every Kinect game is bad is just ignorant.
-See above^.
You can assume it wont be good. Thats still your opinion.
Believe it or not, just because you dont like something, doesnt mean it's bad.
And it's set in AMC's series universe.
Aww how cute, you think I'm bashing the kinect because everyone is doing it.
No, I hate on the kinect because I own the thing, and have played many games for the kinect because the idea seemed great, of them, the only game that ever worked was Kinect Sports.
BTW, on the "Assuming every kinect game is bad is just ignorant" I've only seen one good kinect game(Sports). The fact that nearly every other kinect game flat out fails can be a great assumption that it won't work here as well.
Maybe if the devs only use the Kinect for voice recognition it could be fine(That is pretty spot on for me), but the kinect just barely works any other way.
Now back on topic, I still don't think this game will be any good
anyway dont worry about kinect since its going to be for PS3, Xbox and pc as well so kinect isnt going to be a important part of it. sort of like kinect with skyrim, or mass effect 3.
Ok, where did you read that "official game description" you speak about?
This are not official but will do it: http://uk.ign.com/games/the-walking-dead-137255/pc-137219
Returning to your post: "The people already hating the game are hating it based on other first person shooters that have nothing to do with thisgame"
How do you know this? Do you have seen the game? Are you developing it?
I'm still not hating the game, maybe I will buy it, who knows? But I have a bad feeling about this.
You should listen to yourself and make no statements about this game yet. Good or bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xJqkzngBI
Genre: First-Person Action
That's the official press release from Activision. Which is what I was talking about. Makes no difference which website it's on.
Stop asking whether i've already played the game or whether i'm developing it. It makes you sound foolish. All the information i've supplied regarding the game, has come directly from the Activision press-release, which again is right there for anyone who cares to read it. I've made no assumptions, just stated exactly what they have said. Unlike those that have assumed it's going to be a mindless 'blast a million zombies a second' bore-fest. Despite evidence to the contrary.
Other fps have nothing to do with this game. It's not a sequel to any game. That's not to say it won't end up being similar to other fps. I'm saying that you have no experience of any Walking Dead games of this ilk. It isn't related to any other fps on the market, so it has nothing to do with them.
I'm merely pointing out the facts from the press release about the game, that imply it isn't going to the mindless first person shooter you all fear. I haven't offered any sort of opinion as to whether it'll be good or bad, so I don't even know what you're talking about. I have no idea how good it'll be.
I'm arguing against those that are already writing it off, without having even seen the slightest part of it.
It's not that hard to understand, is it?
Well actually im not in support of the game being an FPS, but i would not mind if the game took first in first person but was still a narrative focused experience, hopefully with minimized shooting.
Also, if this is TWD chances are that Kirkman is involved, I'm sure he won't let them screw his IP like that.
Ok wait a minute. He said no one is criticising the game because of other shooters, so why do you feel like you need to immediately defend the game saying it has nothing to do with other shooters? We know that.
BTW, we can have opinions on this game, so far it looks like it flat out ignores what WD is, we have the right to have that stand.
I have Left 4 Dead but never play it anymore, Just hate the super-zombie thing.
I have been thinking I wish someone would make a game like TWD but with a more FPA option. I mean, Like having Lee on a rooftop with a rifle, maybe with a scope and silencer just for the fun of sniping zombies.
So I'm kinda looking foreward to this, If they keep it true to TWD world, give us more control of our character's than just following the story-line. Allow us to travel in and out of the cities of our own will, maybe join a group or keep solo if we want.
I was imagining something like a World of Warcraft environment.. Imagine a full continant like Duotar, but with modern cities and landscapes, where you have full roam of it all. Places you can go to hide out, but you still need to gather food and water, find weapons, gas.. Really put your character in TWD world.
No real quest's or grinding for anything, just living and surviving. No level's ultra powerful items, but hey, if you discover an abandoned .50 cal, why not take it and mount it on the roof of your safehouse.
I remember the finale of season 1, TS-19, when the group goes to the CDC, they walk past a .50 cal with ammo.. why didnt they take that and attach it to the top of the RV? I know, too many walkers at that moment, Point is, I would be looting any/all weapons I could if in that world.
Either way the money for this ain't coming from my pocket so yea they can do whatever they want lol.
Every new's page is advertising this as an FPS i don't think theres even a FPA category in today's gaming
The Activision game is in partnership with AMC, the creators of the TV show. Telltale's game is in partnership with Skybound, the creators of the comic. Separate continuities.
presshearttocontinue aka Dodger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7fTasyZOIU&feature=g-u-u
I fear for Walking Dead when I heard Activition is running the other game of the title.
Their solution to everything is pure combat action...
at least all my games with their name on it, seem to be combat oriented even for non-combat stories.
Star Trek is the biggest example, there's no diplomacy (sure got 1 or 2 just to keep fans quiet)
but the rest of the way its shoot ur way through. Almost infinite monsters popping out of no logical places...
That's for the Shooter genre, in its RTS they just throw in a whole bunch of ships that we'll never touch... just for show.
No balance what soever, just go capital ships throughout the game, who needs the smaller ships...
Borg Spheres are wuss only Cubes & Tactical Cubes are worth anything... Not to mentioned, Fusion Cubes just get 1 & u win the map...
& it ain't hard to get 1, grab the 1st 8 Cubes & join them... bam 1 floating idol of OPness
Walking Dead by Activision
If there's any choices in Walking Dead by Activision, it'll be, shoot the head or everywhere else.
Difference?
Head = dead
Everywhere else = still up & walking
lol
I hope I'm exaggerating...
Can someone point out some games by them that's not combat oriented? I mean really worth playing, just because it doesn't shoot doesn't mean its good...
The rednecks are not in the comics, its tv show
"First-person adventure" is an extremely difficult genre to categorize.
The obvious definition would be "An adventure game in first-person," like Myst, but that's pretty narrow and doesn't fit a lot of stuff that gets labelled as an FPA.
Nintendo insisted that Metroid Prime was an FPA and not an FPS, and that makes sense. True, it's first-person, and you shoot things, but it's got far more in common with Zelda than any given FPS. In fact, with the whole auto-lock-on system, Metroid Prime is kind of crappy if you judge it as an FPS (not that you should, mind you). Of course, that sets the precedent that an FPA can involve shooting while still not being an FPS.
What about Deus Ex? It's first-person, and you shoot things, but it has elements of a stealth game and RPG too, and exploration and story are much bigger priorities than combat. (Especially since combat in general is pretty ineffective, at least early in the game.)
What about BioShock? Its gameplay is pretty close to that of a traditional FPS, much moreso than Metroid Prime and Deus Ex. But there's still a heavy emphasis on exploration and story. Is it an FPS? An FPA? Both?
Video game genres in general are a pretty difficult thing to classify, especially since there are so many games that blur the line. Long story short, "first-person adventure" is pretty subjective.
You mean like this http://www.deadstate.doublebearproductions.com/
I saw this, think its kinda cool.. would be something to do while waiting on the next Episodes.
"Hey did you play the Walking Dead game yet? Do you know if there are any other weapons"
"You mean besides the axe?"
"What Axe? I have a crossbow?"
It will get really confusing pretty quickly.
Ya, games like
Sneaking
Fallout 3/NewVegas, Skyrim, & other games alike r good sneaking examples to avoid a battle. Just need to twitch it up a bit for zombies. That should be easier to avoid right? right?? lol
other non adventure sneaking games
Deus Ex, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, etc. great games that can win without a single takedown...
even in Deus Ex: Human Revolution's version of a zombie moment can avoid them all without them detecting u (without cloak)
Zombie Hunting
the game should have the basic rules in zombie hunting...
don't bleed, make much noise, & so on...
should have achievements for great zombie hunter, as in kill via the head & all for knowing what ur doing... instead of randomly shooting the body... & wasting bullets...
Hands man, use ur hands like Lee
HtH combat is vital, dun want a game where u dun have weapons & can't do squat... but stare at them.
any Everyday items counts
the old Fallout 1 & 2 are great in terms of using whatever u can find (broken bottles, tire irons, plunger, etc.
like Dead Island, but PLEASE!!!
I don't know what's wrong with Dead Island's programing, but it made my 3D card noisy & that's a brand new card that ran every other game top graphics smoothly...
now after playing that game even for a few minutes than uninstalling it, it buzzes with other games now...
PLEASE don't make the same mistake as they did...
whatever that is...
Conversations
To me that's important, & not just to listen to random "we're going to die" or "hero" crap
but stuff that actually effect the story or ur relationship with other NPCs.
Don't want to hear the main character say this even once.
"Never fear, I'll protect you..." blam blam blam (with a big grin on the face)
"Leave this to me..."
lol
well they can say that, just watch their tone & facial expressions...
It can be done properly... & not look like a joke.
Commands to NPCs with your voice
Stupid motion controls
"On rails" gameplay
Commands to NPCs could be alright, the others.. I imagine will make a pretty shit game.
The TV series is nowhere near as good as the comic, the TTG game is based on the comic and is brilliant, really captures what it's all about. A TV series based game, published by Activision no less, I can't imagine will be about pleasing fans of the comics, the TTG game or even really the tv series to an extent. I think this is a cheap cash in to make money at Christmas.
If it turns out to be half decent I'll get it as a fan of TWD, but if it's what I expect it to be, I'll be waiting for it to hit the bargain bin. I don't think I'll be waiting too long, either.
Its good and all, but it may as well have been a random episode of Dangermouse for all it told us about the gameplay.
It might be another dead island
This.
I only say that I have a bad feeling about this. Cheap game production, FPS... I hope that I'm wrong but this doesn't sound good. If ChickVelcro wants to defend the game he (or she) it's free to doing it but it's such a nonsense like the guys saying that it will be a bad game.
Let's see in the future.
I'll admit, that I'm definitely interested to see more of Daryl and Merle. I'm also interested in seeing the direction that they take the limited things that have been revealed like the dialogue, sneaking, etc.
NO Kinect and all other "motion" controls please. They destroy games because they regularly just DO NOT work xd.
I recall a game with a lady & a little girl, 3rd person style.
survival game... not sure if they're blood related.
they have to hide, sometimes can tell the girl to stay under a table or in a closet while u go out to investigate...
Does anyone know about that game & what its title is?
It sounds like you're describing Amy (never played just heard about it so I could be way off).
Ya, that's the one thanks.
darn, no pc version.
No problem.
From what I hear, you don't really want to play it anyways. lol.
The reviews weren't too kind. IGN gave it a 2 out of 10. XD