On the subject of Titian, his breasts are fine, but I don't like his faces. At all. "Moon faces" were only cool when Edward Gorey did it. I don't see beauty in moon faces, they creep me out and disgust me. It's part of why I don't think the Mona Lisa is a beautiful woman. A beautiful painting yes, but a beautiful woman, no.
But enough iambic pentameter, you flibbertigibbets!
Ive always wondered, What do the ladies of the forum think of the boobs in the Dead or Alive series of games? Ridiculously hilarious? Completely degrading? Whats your opinion?
The females' outfits in DOA always seemed incredibly impractical to me. Not just the boob region, mind you. I kept thinking "I'd never want to wear that while fighting".
Other than that, I don't really have an opinion on it. I mean, sure there are females who fight, and they're all hot, and the guys usually aren't (although some are). That seems a bit unfair. On the other hand the possible "it's degrading because they're wearing sexy clothes" thing (which I've never believed, personally, but I guess I can see how someone would) would be offset by the "females are fighting too, and being good at it".
I mean, from the point of view of someone who has gender equality in mind, that is. So I don't think I really have a problem with it.
I don't like fighting games though, and they should have less ugly guys or more ugly girls. It would be more fair
But enough iambic pentameter, you flibbertigibbets!
Ive always wondered, What do the ladies of the forum think of the boobs in the Dead or Alive series of games? Ridiculously hilarious? Completely degrading? Whats your opinion?
WORST. BOOB PHYSICS. EVER.
Pro-Tip: our individual breasts do not have their own physics engine! They do not bounce up and down at different rates. If one bounces up, the other one bounces up as well. They always bounce together. I seriously don't understand why some animators just can't comprehend this. I mean, is that a fetish? Boobs bouncing separately with no coordination?
Perhaps we can solve this scientifically. Men like boobs: check. Apparently, they like to see them bounce: check. So, by making them bounce separately, you get twice as much bounciness per step!
Considering how much effort goes into breast physics for DOA games, I'm certain that every breach in the actual laws of physics is ENTIRELY intentional. If it was not as much of a focal point as it is, you could chalk it up to an error, but the amount of focus given to this aspect of the physics engine implies that this is the way they intended it to work. Whether this is due to a personal fetish on the designers' part, or market research, or a meticulous effort to create something that has pleasing elements exaggerated and bent to entice the intended audience is another question entirely.
I mean, is that a fetish? Boobs bouncing separately with no coordination?
If you can name it, it's probably a fetish.
As far as I'm concerned, there's a limit on the attractiveness of boobs. The DOA characters aren't to the point of being grotesque, but were they real women, they'd probably fall outside of the spectrum of what I normally find attractive*.
That said, Hitomi's always had some sort of strange appeal for me that I can't quite put my finger on. But that's got nothing to do with anything.
*For reference, I generally prefer C cup sized breasts, but that can go up or down a size depending on the overall build of the girl. And of course, it's only one factor out of many, and hardly as important as it's made out to be.
As far as I'm concerned, there's a limit on the attractiveness of boobs.
You mean size-wise, I'm gathering. I agree. From a perfectly aesthetic point of view, without any sexual attraction involved, I think breasts soon become out of place and making women look misshapen when they get big.
In a way, I think it's a bit like having a huge nose. Past a certain point, it just attract the attention and gets in your way.
I feel I personally aren't too too bad because I also have wide hips and stuff, but still, it just catches the eye. And it's not like people who look are perverts who're interested in your body or something, males, females, kids, animals, plants, everyone looks.
Okay, most plants don't.
It's like "what are these bumps coming out of your chest?" and as I said, I'm not that bad. I can't imagine what it is for women who are a J cup or something. Or a smaller cup but who are also skinny.
I think it's ridiculous how some women are pressured into getting breasts enhancements when they were perfect and after they just look weird. There is some kind of balance in the body. If you enhance your breasts, often you break that balance and just end up looking weird.
I feel the same way about noses, this being said. Like 90% of the time, when I see before/after pictures, I just think the person looked so much better before. But if it makes them feel better, I guess that's what matters.
It just makes me a bit sad.
EDIT: oh, right, I'm supposed to add a picture of my boobs.
Listen, I'm too lazy to take new ones, so here is an old picture of me skipping pebbles, where you can kind of see my breasts:
Sorry, I didn't quite make that clear. Yeah, that's what I meant, though I suppose it could still be true in general. I imagine that if one was surrounded by exposed breasts all day, they'd eventually become boring. Sort of like a word losing its meaning if you say it too many times.
I feel I personally aren't too too bad because I also have wide hips and stuff
That's what I was getting at at the end there. Larger sizes are fine as long as you have the body to proportion it out. A smaller-framed girl with B cups and a larger-framed girl with D cups both look fine, but if you switch it around, something seems off. In your case, your breasts, while on the large side, are in proportion with the rest of your frame, so they compliment the rest of you. And I think that tends to be the case most of the time, though you do sometimes see women whose bodies developed out of proportion or who went and altered themselves and messed it all up.
I always felt my nose is too big. I hate blowing it out of fear of causing a twister.
I make so much noise when I blow my nose, people don't believe it at first. It's very funny. I don't know anyone who is as noisy.
It's not a disgusting noise or anything. Just sound like I'm playing some kind of loud instrument
Oh dear, if breasts worked like that I'd knock myself out every time I take a step.
Seriously, looks like the breast try to jump up and down even when the character isn't moving. And indeed, at lot of "let's make sure we don't move at the same time, Leftie, okay?" "Sure, Righty, let's coordinate it real good".
Pretty weird. Funny though. What I don't get is why they're all in swimwear, and why there are only girls. I haven't played past the second or third game, can't remember, but things seem to have changes since then.
My husband's theory is that all the programmers drew straws and the one who lost had to wear a bra with water balloons in them and try and move to make them jiggle in every possible way while the others were watching and taking notes.
I still don't get why they're making the breasts move in opposite ways. It just looks weird. I didn't realise it was that bad.
the 'extreme' spin offs are supposed to be volllyball games, but have little to no gameplay. And you have to 'make friends' with the girls... and you can get them to pose while you take photos....suggestively...
I quote Rule 36 of the internet, a corollary to Rule 34: "If you've thought of it, then there's somebody out there with a fetish for it."
As for an appropriate contribution to this thread, there's a recent video featured on Attack of the Show's Around the Net segment that was taken from Playboy's YouTube channel (don't worry, it's PG) - MissGruber. It makes a decent counterpoint to the previous DOA video.
Those breasts would make good punching bags in some sort of tutorial to build up character strength. You know what, I should be the one designing these games!
My husband's theory is that all the programmers drew straws and the one who lost had to wear a bra with water balloons in them and try and move to make them jiggle in every possible way while the others were watching and taking notes.
... and since then you imagine Yare doing such, right?
Pretty weird. Funny though. What I don't get is why they're all in swimwear, and why there are only girls. I haven't played past the second or third game, can't remember, but things seem to have changes since then.
Because it's the successor to a Dead or Alive spinoff called Dead or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball, featuring only the girls from the DOA games. Though the first game only featured volleyball, the second game, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, according to wiki: "expands upon the activities available in the original, supplementing beach volleyball with additional beach-related mini-games."
And here is the obligatory box art for both games:
I have not played these. To be honest, I bought a DOA game (DOA2 I think) from GameStop once, and returned it the next day because I already had SoulCalibur 1 and 2, and I found SoulCalibur to be far superior because, unlike DOA, there's much more to those games than just boob physics.
... and since then you imagine Yare doing such, right?
Didn't cross my mind. My husband made a dance to demonstrate what he meant, and since he happened to be naked at the time, that's pretty much been what occupies my mind when I think about his theory.
Now I want to be the one demonstrating breast physics in front of the telltale team, though. Good job, Hassat
Great. Now I'm trying to remove the mental image of a naked man bouncing up and down and dancing (and demostrating the..umm...jiggling that accompanies it.)
Ugh. Please someone hit me in the face until I'm in too much pain to think about this.
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But enough iambic pentameter, you flibbertigibbets!
Ive always wondered, What do the ladies of the forum think of the boobs in the Dead or Alive series of games? Ridiculously hilarious? Completely degrading? Whats your opinion?
Other than that, I don't really have an opinion on it. I mean, sure there are females who fight, and they're all hot, and the guys usually aren't (although some are). That seems a bit unfair. On the other hand the possible "it's degrading because they're wearing sexy clothes" thing (which I've never believed, personally, but I guess I can see how someone would) would be offset by the "females are fighting too, and being good at it".
I mean, from the point of view of someone who has gender equality in mind, that is. So I don't think I really have a problem with it.
I don't like fighting games though, and they should have less ugly guys or more ugly girls. It would be more fair
WORST. BOOB PHYSICS. EVER.
Pro-Tip: our individual breasts do not have their own physics engine! They do not bounce up and down at different rates. If one bounces up, the other one bounces up as well. They always bounce together. I seriously don't understand why some animators just can't comprehend this. I mean, is that a fetish? Boobs bouncing separately with no coordination?
Also, I never noticed breasts bounced separately in DOA. I guess that's not what I was looking at
Or maybe its just a weird fettish...
If you can name it, it's probably a fetish.
As far as I'm concerned, there's a limit on the attractiveness of boobs. The DOA characters aren't to the point of being grotesque, but were they real women, they'd probably fall outside of the spectrum of what I normally find attractive*.
That said, Hitomi's always had some sort of strange appeal for me that I can't quite put my finger on. But that's got nothing to do with anything.
*For reference, I generally prefer C cup sized breasts, but that can go up or down a size depending on the overall build of the girl. And of course, it's only one factor out of many, and hardly as important as it's made out to be.
You mean size-wise, I'm gathering. I agree. From a perfectly aesthetic point of view, without any sexual attraction involved, I think breasts soon become out of place and making women look misshapen when they get big.
In a way, I think it's a bit like having a huge nose. Past a certain point, it just attract the attention and gets in your way.
I feel I personally aren't too too bad because I also have wide hips and stuff, but still, it just catches the eye. And it's not like people who look are perverts who're interested in your body or something, males, females, kids, animals, plants, everyone looks.
Okay, most plants don't.
It's like "what are these bumps coming out of your chest?" and as I said, I'm not that bad. I can't imagine what it is for women who are a J cup or something. Or a smaller cup but who are also skinny.
I think it's ridiculous how some women are pressured into getting breasts enhancements when they were perfect and after they just look weird. There is some kind of balance in the body. If you enhance your breasts, often you break that balance and just end up looking weird.
I feel the same way about noses, this being said. Like 90% of the time, when I see before/after pictures, I just think the person looked so much better before. But if it makes them feel better, I guess that's what matters.
It just makes me a bit sad.
EDIT: oh, right, I'm supposed to add a picture of my boobs.
Listen, I'm too lazy to take new ones, so here is an old picture of me skipping pebbles, where you can kind of see my breasts:
Sorry, I didn't quite make that clear. Yeah, that's what I meant, though I suppose it could still be true in general. I imagine that if one was surrounded by exposed breasts all day, they'd eventually become boring. Sort of like a word losing its meaning if you say it too many times.
Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet.
That's what I was getting at at the end there. Larger sizes are fine as long as you have the body to proportion it out. A smaller-framed girl with B cups and a larger-framed girl with D cups both look fine, but if you switch it around, something seems off. In your case, your breasts, while on the large side, are in proportion with the rest of your frame, so they compliment the rest of you. And I think that tends to be the case most of the time, though you do sometimes see women whose bodies developed out of proportion or who went and altered themselves and messed it all up.
I never encountered the DOA girls before until I saw the "Dead Fantasy" videos by Monty Oum. When it comes to CGI women, I prefer the FF girls.
An action shot of Avistew! Love how the hair fans out.
I make so much noise when I blow my nose, people don't believe it at first. It's very funny. I don't know anyone who is as noisy.
It's not a disgusting noise or anything. Just sound like I'm playing some kind of loud instrument
I love the movement, too! It's a pretty neat picture. I think it looks nice without looking "perfect" as it would if it was staged.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/girls-trailer-doa-xtreme/14282
Seriously, looks like the breast try to jump up and down even when the character isn't moving. And indeed, at lot of "let's make sure we don't move at the same time, Leftie, okay?" "Sure, Righty, let's coordinate it real good".
Pretty weird. Funny though. What I don't get is why they're all in swimwear, and why there are only girls. I haven't played past the second or third game, can't remember, but things seem to have changes since then.
My husband's theory is that all the programmers drew straws and the one who lost had to wear a bra with water balloons in them and try and move to make them jiggle in every possible way while the others were watching and taking notes.
I still don't get why they're making the breasts move in opposite ways. It just looks weird. I didn't realise it was that bad.
...
*has played one and suddely needs a shower*
I quote Rule 36 of the internet, a corollary to Rule 34: "If you've thought of it, then there's somebody out there with a fetish for it."
As for an appropriate contribution to this thread, there's a recent video featured on Attack of the Show's Around the Net segment that was taken from Playboy's YouTube channel (don't worry, it's PG) - MissGruber. It makes a decent counterpoint to the previous DOA video.
Thanks, now everyone else is.
I haven't watched G4 since it changed over from TechTV.
Because it's the successor to a Dead or Alive spinoff called Dead or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball, featuring only the girls from the DOA games. Though the first game only featured volleyball, the second game, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, according to wiki: "expands upon the activities available in the original, supplementing beach volleyball with additional beach-related mini-games."
And here is the obligatory box art for both games:
I have not played these. To be honest, I bought a DOA game (DOA2 I think) from GameStop once, and returned it the next day because I already had SoulCalibur 1 and 2, and I found SoulCalibur to be far superior because, unlike DOA, there's much more to those games than just boob physics.
Didn't cross my mind. My husband made a dance to demonstrate what he meant, and since he happened to be naked at the time, that's pretty much been what occupies my mind when I think about his theory.
Now I want to be the one demonstrating breast physics in front of the telltale team, though. Good job, Hassat
Great. Now I'm trying to remove the mental image of a naked man bouncing up and down and dancing (and demostrating the..umm...jiggling that accompanies it.)
Ugh. Please someone hit me in the face until I'm in too much pain to think about this.
Sorry. I've tried it many times, but you can't punch someone over the internet.
You can try, but it can be rather expensive to get your monitor replaced.:D
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Never mind water, they look like ferrets in a bag.
Why ferrets, specifically?
Nope, if they were full of helium they'd be permanently raised to their chins.
It just felt right... feel free to substitute weasels, stoats, or even polecats as you see fit.