Boobs: an artistic discussion

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  • edited May 2010
    My first thought was something that jumps. Like the beans that have some insect jumping inside of them, only with breasts.

    I have to say though, I almost want to find a copy of the game (not buy it, let's not get crazy) and play just to look at the breast animations. It's just so... weird to look at.
  • edited May 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    It just felt right... feel free to substitute weasels, stoats, or even polecats as you see fit.

    Hmmm...I'm quite partial to stoats...
  • edited May 2010
    Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that GuruGuru's idea of "large" breasts are D cup? I realize people have slightly odd views when it comes to breast size, but still, I was a D when I was 14. I've gone up more than a couple of cup sizes since then.

    That's actually what bothered me more than anything as a teenager, was the fact that a woman with larger breasts was immediately seen as a hyper-sexualized and not as "nice" as other girls. It's one of the reasons I love the Voodoo Lady and Myra from season one of Sam and Max. It's nice to see a woman whose busty and not a slut.
  • edited May 2010
    I thought I was a c cup for the longest time. Then I properly measured myself to find I was DD. Then it made sense why it hurt wearing a bra.
  • edited May 2010
    Wait, the Voodoo Lady isn't a slut? I at least got the impression that she had a...vibrant sexual life from her LIKE A VOLCANO bit.
  • edited May 2010
    vibrant sex life=/=slut
  • edited May 2010
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    vibrant sex life=/=slut
    True enough, but she seemed to have been stringing DeCava along to get something out of him, sending him off on adventures and such.
  • edited May 2010
    That's make me remember my Maxism moment last year:

    A friend who works as a investigator in the University told me a girl who was recently hired overheared she was actually hired for her boobs. She told him she's going to stay anyway to demostrate she's more than that. I was admiring her tenacity, when suddenly another investigator come in, my friend told him the story and he said the girl was mistaken and it's ok she was hired just for her boobs. Then, I said... "Hey... Can I kill him? Painfully?" and my friend "Be my guest, I'll help you".

    Of course, he's still alive because I wasn't lagomorph enough. I was convinced I could did the world a better place anyway.
  • edited May 2010
    When I was in my late teens, I had a friend be jealous because "guys kept hitting on me". I pointed out to her that 100% of these guys were married, and to a woman with small breasts.
    She seemed to think it made thing worse. My point was, obviously, they only care about my breasts, for a long-term relationship people seem to prefer women with smaller breasts because they're less afraid they'll be cheated on. Her point was that she might find someone and marry him but he'd try to cheat on her anyways.
    I honestly couldn't understand why the idea of finding someone and marrying them, but that they'd try to hit on other women, was such a worse fate than only ever being hit on by people who were already taken and didn't care about you as a person.

    And at the time I was still shy about my body and everything. Not like now where I post my boobs everywhere and act all promiscuous :p

    I've also had comments hinting that if everyone refused to go out with me (nobody asked me out and the people I asked said no) it could be because the jerks didn't want to date a nerd (no big loss here) and the nice guys were intimidated/thought I was a slut.
    Personally I don't think anyone who knew me could have thought I was a slut (at the time), I was pretty shy and often sticked to myself, and until university or so I didn't have any female friends. It seems to me the "slutty" ones travel in packs at school.
    Plus, I also wore clothes that didn't let it show that I had shapes. And it always seemed to me that people at school had absolutely no idea what my body looked like. So I don't think anyone thought I was a slut back then.

    I too was a D cup in junior high school, but I can see how it can be considered big when the beauty canon these days seems to be very thin women. Obviously on them a D cup is huge.
  • edited May 2010
    Lena_P wrote: »
    Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that GuruGuru's idea of "large" breasts are D cup?

    Did I ever say that? The only thing I did say was that D cup is the upper end of my usual preference range, and even then I said I was flexible on that and that I don't even care about it all that much. Of course, being a social outcast, it doesn't matter what my preference is, but that's another matter entirely.

    On the other hand, yes, as a man it it's hard for me to imagine having to carry around as much as D cups, much less anything bigger, so perhaps they do seem large to me. That you seem to think of them as "small" or even "medium" is as funny to me as it is to you that I might think of them as "large".
  • edited May 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Not like now where I post my boobs everywhere and act all promiscuous :p

    Yeah, I saw them on the side of a bus yesterday :D
  • edited May 2010
    From what I've been able to gather from websites and such, the average breast size for women aged 18-25 is 34B.

    So depending on your band size, yes. D-cup is considered large.
  • edited May 2010
    From what I've been able to gather from websites and such, the average breast size for women aged 18-25 is 34B.

    So depending on your band size, yes. D-cup is considered large.

    I think out of scientific curiosity, we ought to gather more data.
  • edited May 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    I think out of scientific curiosity, we ought to gather more data.

    I heartily agree, Avistew. For scientific reasons of course.
    Why not start with having all the girls on the forum tell their cup sizes.
  • edited May 2010
    From what I've been able to gather from websites and such, the average breast size for women aged 18-25 is 34B.

    So depending on your band size, yes. D-cup is considered large.

    That's not the "average" that's usually touted, but I'll work with your example. First off, I don't know how these "averages" are figured, but if they are based on sales, they are probably totally off. Many people don't realize that they're actually a bigger cup size, so get a larger back size to accommodate their boobs. For example, I've seen many, many women and girls whose bras were riding up their backs, whether it was at the gym, beach or they had white shirts and white bras on (might as well be wearing a see-through shirt). CLASSIC sign of too big a back size/ancient bra, possibly both. But they're already wearing a C or a D and consider themselves not big at all, so they just keep buying a bigger and bigger back size in a misguided attempt to get the "right" size bra.

    Like that 34B you mentioned? "Technically" the same volume as a 32C or 30D or 28DD, but practically it makes a huge difference when you're actually wearing them.

    Also, it's very difficult to even find bigger sizes in America. You mostly have to rely on catalogs, and they mostly have uncomfortable, ugly "grandma" bras with no underwires that only come in white, black, and if you're lucky, "nude".

    Now, the place I buy from goes up to a KK cup, 28 to 40 back. Women come in a range, different heights, different weights, different builds. Why wouldn't their breasts come in all different sizes as well? To say a 34B is the "average" is like saying the "average" woman is 5'1" 140 lbs (155 cm 63.5 kg).
  • edited May 2010
    I also have to say that if the average figure relies on sales, it's seriously flawed. Can't say if that's the case, of course, maybe it has nothing to do with sales.

    But my friends with A, B or C cups always have lots of bras. The maximum of bras I've had at the same time was something like 2: 1 sports bra and 1 regular bra, that I changed when it was completely worn out and some more, because that's how hard it was to find the right size. Also, I only wore sports bras that were at least a cup too small until this year when I found one in my size.

    So you'd have females who bought like 10 different bras in smaller sizes, because these sizes are readily available, and in a variety or models, colours and so on, and then people like me who'd buy the one bra that was available in their size every other year or so. Obviously sales wouldn't be representative at all.

    And past a certain size, I know a fair amount of people who just don't buy bras at all, or if they do buy bras they know are 2-3 cups too small, because that's all they can find and at least it's some support. I personally don't wear regular bras anymore, as they hurt my shoulders way too much.
    Normally when you wear bras, the most of the weight is supposed to be carried by your back. But passed a certain cup size, it's too much weight and the shoulders end up carrying some. It was extremely painful for me, even with professionally fitted bras.
    Now I only have a sport bra, for sports, and the shoulder straps are very large so the weight is more spread, and I never wear it for very long. The rest of the time I don't wear one, because it's more comfortable for me and has been recommended by my doctor anyways.
    (When you wear bras, it prevents the fluids in your breasts from moving freely and lumps can form. Because I'm at risk for breast cancer, it's important to avoid that. I was told that 8 hours per 24-hour period was really the maximum amount of time a woman should wear a bra to avoid these problems, and even that needed to go with regular massages).
    Because some women find it uncomfortable to go without one, the doctor just told me that I could avoid wearing one at home, remove it while traveling on a plane/bus overnight and remove it then put it back when I used the bathroom.
    Personally I find it much more practical not to wear one at all, and my shoulder and back pain has completely vanished, which is always good to take.
    I do have a stretchy shirt for wearing under loose clothes (typically shirt meant for men) because I find it more practical.

    Anyway, my point is that while it might sound totally counter-intuitive to you, I know much more women with big breasts going without bras than women with small breasts doing so. Even if smaller-breasted women don't need the support, they also don't usually get the disadvantages of wearing bras and lots of cute/sexy things are available in their size.
  • edited May 2010
    When I was living in the Netherlands, it was impossible to get bras that fit any of the women in my family, so I didn't even know what it felt like until we moved back to Australia and found a specialist shop for odd-sized women. Really, they're a lifesaver.

    I believe my mother tried to avoid buying any new bras for the eight years we were overseas, but she may have bought some and suffered like my sister and myself.

    Also, aren't the sizes different in practically every country? I have bras with three different sizes listed on the labels...
  • edited May 2010
    Looking at one of my bras it says UK/USA-34X EU-75X FR-90X and AUS/NZ 12X with "X" being the same cup size every time. I have heard Japan has slightly different cup sizes, but I've never bought a bra from there so I don't know for sure.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited May 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    So you'd have females who bought like 10 different bras in smaller sizes, because these sizes are readily available, and in a variety or models, colours and so on, and then people like me who'd buy the one bra that was available in their size every other year or so.

    I always used to find it odd that large breasts were (ostensibly) considered to be the most sexually alluring, but all the cute/sexy underwear was for smaller cup sizes, while the stuff available for larger breasts was about as sexy as the rigging on a tall ship.
  • edited May 2010
    Also, aren't the sizes different in practically every country? I have bras with three different sizes listed on the labels...

    Typically the cups use letters, although they're not always a perfect match (I think Japan is one cup shifted, that is their B-cup is a A-cup here), but to be fair cups can be different from one brand to the next, too. Which is why knowing a brand well or trying it own is pretty important.

    I know in France the band sizes are along the lines of 80, 85, 90, 95, in increments of 5, and in North America it's 2 by 2, like 34, 36, etc. North America seems to use inches but I don't know what the sizes are supposed to mean in France. It might be centimetres I guess.

    Sizes are the hardest thing when you move, although shoes are worse because in Canada, it's not even the same size if you buy "meant" for males or for females! Are our feet that different? In France the sizes work the same way from baby shoes to adults, so your size is your size no matter what kind of shoes you like.
    Pant sizes are also pretty different, I think they're like 30 smaller, as in 40 in France is 10 in Canada. And the difference is only 10 for men, so that 40 in France is 30 in Canada.
    Since a male's 40 and a female's 40 aren't the same in France (but that makes sense, I mean the cut is completely different, too, so it seems rare that you would shop from the other's section) it can get a bt confusing converting it all.

    I could remember in France that my shoe size and my pants size were both 38. But now... I have no real clue. I think my shoe size is 7 here, and although I think my pants size would be 8 or 10, I haven't ever bought pants in Canada so I'm not sure at all.

    EDIT:
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    I always used to find it odd that large breasts were (ostensibly) considered to be the most sexually alluring, but all the cute/sexy underwear was for smaller cup sizes, while the stuff available for larger breasts was about as sexy as the rigging on a tall ship.

    Well maybe the reasoning is that big breasts don't need to be made sexier? :p
    More seriously I think it's a combination of there being more demand for smaller cups (so they can make more models without it being as risky commercially) and focusing much more on comfort for bigger cups, which isn't always compatible with appearance when clothes are concerned.
  • edited May 2010
    38 EU -> 7.5 US -> 5 UK. Seriously, if it weren't for the security cameras every goshdarn place I'd be willing to move to the UK just so I could wear size 5 shoes! :p Their non-rigging bras are nice as well, not that it makes a difference for me :(
  • edited May 2010
    oops double post!
  • edited May 2010
    You can come stay with me anytime, Lena, in exchange for Telltale secrets. :D
  • edited May 2010
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    as sexy as the rigging on a tall ship.

    Who says the rigging of a tall ship isn't sexy?:p
  • edited May 2010
    For the record, that statistic was made from measuring participants from different colleges in the US (thus the "18-25" factor). If we're going by sales, which includes all age groups, I believe the most popular size is 36DD, but like many of you have said, sales aren't a good way to determine average breast size.

    EDIT: Okay, so. That college study might be a little outdated, derp. A lot of sources now say that the average cup-size is now 36C.
  • edited May 2010
    For the record, that statistic was made from measuring participants from different colleges in the US (thus the "18-25" factor). If we're going by sales, which includes all age groups, I believe the most popular size is 36DD, but like many of you have said, sales aren't a good way to determine average breast size.

    When was that study? When I tried to look it up, I only found something talking about how the average size in the US had moved from 34B to 34C. So I'm wondering if the study you mean is the one that is now out of date or another, more recent one.

    I'd be curious to know if they measured the people or asked for their sizes since of course the results would be different.

    Also, I'm surprised 36DD could be the size that sells the most since I'm not even sure most stores carry it. I know in France even lingerie stores, so stores specialised in just that, only had up to D, and to get over that you needed to find a plus size store.

    Anyway, I don't think cup sizes are... how to say it... That relevant. I mean, it started with Guru saying he liked about a C cup, give or take one cup depending on build. That leads me to wonder: how do you know that? I certainly can't just look at someone and know what cup they are. (I'm not directing that at you personally Guru, for all I know you're just going from the bra sizes of your previous girlfriends or something. It just a thought I had.)

    I know in France when people talk about big breasts, the usual one to mention is 95C. That is I think 36C, I have no clue why this specific size, but for expressions and stuff that's the one people mention to mean someone has huge breasts. It becomes silly when people say something like "she's cute but she's no 95C", meaning her breasts aren't that big, and you know that the person's size actually is 95C.
    I also remember taking a quiz with girl friends and one question was "what's the biggest bra cup?" and everyone answered "D" and I was like "are you kidding me?" but on the other hand it was the biggest one available in most stores so I understood where they were coming from.
    It's a silly question to begin with, though. I don't even know what the biggest cup is.
  • edited May 2010
    When I was living in the Netherlands, it was impossible to get bras that fit any of the women in my family, so I didn't even know what it felt like until we moved back to Australia and found a specialist shop for odd-sized women. Really, they're a lifesaver.
    On the topic of boobs and bra-buying - the webcomic Wapsi Square has both, without going overboard with it... ;)

    np: Jake Mandell - Intussusception (Scales Of Magnification)
  • edited May 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    your previous girlfriends

    I wish.

    Which I suppose further cements the possibility that I have no idea what I'm talking about in this thread.
  • edited May 2010
    Anything more than a handful is a waste.
  • edited May 2010
    guys my boobs are different sises am i normal.
  • edited May 2010
    Well, Fealiks, in my own words

    In general, most women have some degree of asymmetry (difference) between their two breasts. This difference can be seen as a difference in, shape, size or nipple height on the breast itself. In some women the inframammary creases may also be at different heights with one breast lower than the other. For patients with scoliosis there may be a difference in their chest wall causing one breast to protrude outward more than the other. Usually, the average breast differences are so minimal as to cause little or no concern for the patient pre operatively. Even if there are subtle breast asymmetries, Dr. Corbin likes to inform the patient prior to breast surgery. Sometimes a small difference in breast shape or size is magnified once the breasts are made larger.

    In more obvious cases the difference between two breasts can be quite substantial, causing both physical imbalance and emotional distress for the patient.

    In cases of breast asymmetry, each woman's situation is unique. The goal of corrective breast surgery is to create two breasts that match each other as closely as possible in both size and shape. This may be best achieved with corrective breast surgery on one breast or both breasts. Corrective breast surgery may include augmenting one breast and lifting or reducing the other breast. Dr. Corbin custom tailors the surgery to each individual patients needs.

    Usually, following corrective breast surgery, women have a greater sense of physical balance, more self confidence, a better body image, and greater self esteem. Physical harmony can often create emotional harmony.
  • edited May 2010
    You're a weird one, Fealiks. And since it seems you got that from a surgery website... Is there anything you want to tell us?
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited May 2010
    Anything more than a handful is a waste.

    Hands any smaller than my breasts are a waste. :rolleyes:
  • edited May 2010
    How would you measure hand-size?

    When making a grabbing gesture, your thumb and fingers create a semi-circle. Hand-size would be the distance between the tips of the thumb and middle finger, but without stretching them apart as far as you can since that would destroy the circular shape. Put in centimeters, my hand-size is 15.
  • edited May 2010
    In the immortal words of The Beautiful South:

    "36D (so what), D (so what)
    Is that all that you've got"

    That's from one of my all time favourite songs (hear the full song here) and I feel it's fitting for this thread at the moment.
  • edited May 2010
    The size of your boobs doesn't matter because boobs aren't all that important. At the end of the day, boobs are just boobs, no matter whether they're tiny or huge (like mine).

    (it's funny because I'm male)
  • edited May 2010
    (males don't have boobs)



    (nvm)
  • edited May 2010
    Fealiks wrote: »
    The size of your boobs doesn't matter

    True
    Fealiks wrote: »
    because boobs aren't all that important.

    :eek::eek::eek: Heresy!

    It's just the opposite. Breasts are wonderful and while size can matter for practical issues, it doesn't change how wonderful and beautiful breasts are (especially mine).
  • edited May 2010
    Well... technically, all the babies start as girls, until the cells decided to check that part of the DNA for develop the genital organs. So, males has "boobs", the point they don't develop it.

    I think
  • edited May 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    It's just the opposite. Breasts are wonderful and while size can matter for practical issues, it doesn't change how wonderful and beautiful breasts are (especially mine).

    Pfft... boobs ain't all that. They're just a part of somebody's body. They're just... boobs.

    What I'm trying to say is that boobs aren't important in deciding whether a person is attractive. The most important part of the body for both sexes is - excluding the tibialis anterior (obvz) - the person's face. For me, boobs are just boobs.

    None of that matters if you can't get along with the person, though. I know it's a cliché, but it's true. People I met and found attractive when I was just starting college, for example, are no longer attractive to me because their personalities rub me the wrong way somehow, and people who I didn't find attractive before are now more attractive because they're nice people (and have awesome tibialis anteriores).
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