The "whatever's on your mind" thread

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  • edited June 2010
    If you're attracted to naked women, you're attracted to naked women. There's nothing shameful or wrong about it. Intelligence doesn't and shouldn't diminish your sex drive.

    But I'm pretty sure people who don't associate naked people with sex don't find naked people of the gender they're attracted to inherently sexy.

    And that woman you posted needs to eat, I think.
  • edited June 2010
    In other news, at least after years and years randomly grabbing all the hats in the Store, I found one which is not too small for my head!

    I have a hat at least!
  • edited June 2010
    doodo! wrote: »
    Who was that geared towards? I think you need to relax buddy.

    No one in particular really. I'll agree that I do need to relax, but enough about that.
  • edited June 2010
    Shwoo wrote: »
    If you're attracted to naked women, you're attracted to naked women. There's nothing shameful or wrong about it. Intelligence doesn't and shouldn't diminish your sex drive.

    But I'm pretty sure people who don't associate naked people with sex don't find naked people of the gender they're attracted to inherently sexy.

    And that woman you posted needs to eat, I think.

    That woman is Charlize Theron :p

    I honestly don't see why you need to be full of "lust" at the sight of a nude female in order to find her attractive and want to have sex with her.

    There's alot of areas of life where we are immature, non-evolved. Take our emotional discipline for example, or our ability to actually see things as they truly are. How often do you look around the room, lay eyes on something and only get incomplete feelings of that thing, you can't actually see the thing for all that it is, as it really is because you're mind is undeveloped and focused on other things?

    So we created social constructs, we label things and then learn that details come second and not first, that reality comes second and not first. We learn to simplify because our minds are incapable of seeing the whole picture.

    We go through most of our lives looking around but we don't actually see things as they are. We're incomplete in understanding our minds versus our brains.

    See, "attracted", "sex", how much of that is a social construct. I think the woman figure is beautiful, amazing.

    Does that mean I need to automatically want it lustfully, or that I wouldn't want to have sex with a woman because I love her, have feelings for her? Isn't being all man and mature finding a woman, settling down and being a good man?

    Aren't mature and deep relationships generally perceived as love relationships?

    When you see a naked woman and she's posing you see art, or you see porn. It's all socially constructed based on what she's doing and what you've been taught and told through out your life.

    When you round everything up, I'd say that we see more porn than we do art because we've been taught that the female body is a sex symbol and we've don't appreciate or comprehend that the nude figure is the figure we see all day long, every day, just covered up. We don't comprehend the idea of femininity, of person. All we see is sex, a nude woman. When clothed or not it's still still the female sex, the female body.

    We don't have the ability to comprehend, understand that the nude female figure is natural. We automatically think of sex and fertility.


    I think it's the conditioned state of mind for males/ females, princesses, prince, macho, beautiful, hard to get, money, status, I think it's those behaviors and the way they are preached to us in society that creates the influence for masturbation and physical lust.

    We observe things with "thought", we don't truly observe things.
  • edited June 2010
    doodo! wrote: »
    That woman is Charlize Theron :p
    I see. She's aesthetically pleasing.

    I honestly don't see why you need to be full of "lust" at the sight of a nude female in order to find her attractive and want to have sex with her. [/quote]
    I don't know why anyone wants to sex with anyone, to be honest. I'm asexual.
    There's alot of areas of life where we are immature, non-evolved. Take our emotional discipline for example, or our ability to actually see things as they truly are. How often do you look around the room, lay eyes on something and only get incomplete feelings of that thing, you can't actually see the thing for all that it is, as it really is because you're mind is undeveloped and focused on other things?

    So we created social constructs, we label things and then learn that details come second and not first, that reality comes second and not first. We learn to simplify because our minds are incapable of seeing the whole picture.

    We go through most of our lives looking around but we don't actually see things as they are. We're incomplete in understanding our minds versus our brains.
    What do you mean by that? I don't understand.
    See, "attracted", "sex", how much of that is a social construct.
    If it was a social construct, I don't think it would be so universal across all cultures.
    I think the woman figure is beautiful, amazing.

    Does that mean I need to automatically want it lustfully, or that I wouldn't want to have sex with a woman because I love her, have feelings for her? Isn't being all man and mature finding a woman, settling down and being a good man?

    Aren't mature and deep relationships generally perceived as love relationships?
    They are, unfortunately. I wish more people could tell the difference.
    When you see a naked woman and she's posing you see art, or you see porn. It's all socially constructed based on what she's doing and what you've been taught and told through out your life.

    When you round everything up, I'd say that we see more porn than we do art because we've been taught that the female body is a sex symbol and we've don't appreciate or comprehend that the nude figure is the figure we see all day long, every day, just covered up. We don't comprehend the idea of femininity, of person. All we see is sex, a nude woman. When clothed or not it's still still the female sex, the female body.
    I think a lot of artists would disagree with you there.
    We don't have the ability to comprehend, understand that the nude female figure is natural. We automatically think of sex and fertility.
    Who do you mean by "we"? That's not my experience at all.
    I think it's the conditioned state of mind for males/ females, princesses, prince, macho, beautiful, hard to get, money, status, I think it's those behaviors and the way they are preached to us in society that creates the influence for masturbation and physical lust.
    Nothing inherently wrong with masturbation or lust. You can be attracted to someone and still respect them.
    We observe things with "thought", we don't truly observe things.
    Again, I don't understand what you mean by that.
  • edited June 2010
    I come into the "whatever's on your mind" thread and what do I see a page full of? Sex. I don't even need to make a joke. I'm just going to grab some popcorn, sit back, laugh, and watch.
  • edited June 2010
    Honestly, I should've anticipated that this would happen eventually when I started the thread, but I didn't. However, now that it has happened, I'm really surprised it didn't happen sooner.
  • edited June 2010
    It took us 26 pages. Achievement Unlocked: Abstinence.
  • edited June 2010
    Oh, jeez. In seven posts, this thread will be tied with the "DVD available for pre-order!" thread for the longest-running thread I've created.
  • edited June 2010
    Oh, jeez. In seven posts, this thread will be tied with the "DVD available for pre-order!" thread for the longest-running thread I've created.

    It was inevitable. This thread isn't going to die any time soon. People are always going to want to spill their random thoughts somewhere; that's why Twitter has taken off so rapidly.
  • edited June 2010
    Not being attracted to females, I have trouble to relate with most of what doodo said.
    Of course I can see the art in naked women. Although I can see the pornography, too, it's just more "repelling" than "attractive" to me, I mean, it doesn't disgust me or anything but it's less pleasant to the eye than art.
    And I can see the art in male bodies, too. Actually, if I look at models posing I'd have a hard time being attracted to them in an "animal", sexual way, because they have because "objects", in a way, and lost all their sexuality in the process. (To me).
    An exception would probably be if someone I was in love with was posing for me.

    I don't think nudity and sex are tied as much as you seem to believe. Not everywhere. It really depends on the country, culture, etc. So I guess you're right a lot of it is a social construct. I notice for instance people in North America seems to see nudity in a much more sexual way than they do in France, and as a result are more embarrassed or feeling awkward when it appears in a context they're not expecting. There was a lot of fuss about that blue guy being naked in Watchmen, yet I can remember many movies rated for everyone that had full nudity, including male frontal. It just wasn't the focus in any way.
    Like, I remember (from watching it with people from North America) a movie in which you have a guy sitting on his bed, thinking about stuff. He's naked, and sure, you can see it, but you really have to look at it so I guess I never noticed.

    So yes, I think if you see nudity more, it's not that you "can control yourself", it's that you don't associate it with sex only, so seeing a naked person, by itself, doesn't really have more reason to turn you on than seeing the same person wearing clothes. If I'm making sense.

    Also, I definitely think self-image, mostly, is very subjective. You see a lot of people convinced, for instance, that they're fat, while still thinking their friends, who are plumper, are perfectly fine and not fat at all. Obviously there has to be something happening in the mind there.
  • edited June 2010
    I have work soon but I'll begin to answer those in another thread so I don't irritate any one further.
  • edited June 2010
    Hey, if that is what's on you mind, what better place to post it. :)

    As for what's on my mind, Angel (The series), MI2, my sisters birthday and vacation next week. :)
  • edited June 2010
    Doodo, I think you really are overanalyzing it. If you're attracted to women, then you're attracted to women. Intellect and psychology alone won't give you all the answers.

    There are cultural influences, hormonal compulsions, personal preferences...

    And anyway, it's one thing to talk about naked women (see also: "Boobs: an artistic discussion") but psychoanalyzing the intellectual reasons for human attraction to the opposite sex is boring me.

    I'm not saying I dislike intellectual discussion. I'm just saying that you're taking a perfectly interesting topic in a totally boring direction.
  • edited June 2010
    Just brought a whole load of clothes :D

    Although, I really can't see how people enjoy clothes shopping and do it for fun :confused:
  • edited June 2010
    I don't see how anyone can like the human body in the nude. In general they look pretty ugly. I'm thankful for the invention of clothes.

    On my mind today is why no-one can pronounce strawberry properly. Everyone seems to say straw-bry and miss out the 'e' altogether. I don't know why it annoys me, but it does.
  • edited June 2010
    jeeno0142 wrote: »
    On my mind today is why no-one can pronounce strawberry properly. Everyone seems to say straw-bry and miss out the 'e' altogether. I don't know why it annoys me, but it does.

    Really? I've only ever heard it pronounced as "straw-bur-y". Is swallowing the E that common where you live?
  • edited June 2010
    Here we appear to mispronounce every word but Strawberry. I'm exaggerating but a disturbing amount of teenagers STILL dont know how to say library
  • edited June 2010
    Yes it is, a bit like a lot of people say 'in' at the end of a word instead of 'ing' (such as 'fascinatin'), or dropping the 't' in certain words (such as pronouncing 'nominated' as 'nomina-ed'). It's only really the older generation that can speak properly, the younger generations all tend to speak in slang now.

    EDIT: Yes, library is another extremely annoying one. It's always lib-ry or lib-ary instead.
  • edited June 2010
    I know the way a lot of people in the US pronounce Ts as Ds confused me for a long time.

    So... If "young people" "can't pronounce things right"... and they "can't spell things right" either... doesn't it just become a different language or something?
  • edited June 2010
    I do not feel like working today........ I have a female boss that kind of flirts with me and I find it annoying.
  • edited June 2010
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I do not feel like working today........ I have a female boss that kind of flirts with me and I find it annoying.
    File a complaint for sexual harassment :)
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    edited June 2010
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I do not feel like working today........ I have a female boss that kind of flirts with me and I find it annoying.

    Does she do it with everyone, or just you?
  • edited June 2010
    jeeno0142 wrote: »
    On my mind today is why no-one can pronounce strawberry properly. Everyone seems to say straw-bry and miss out the 'e' altogether. I don't know why it annoys me, but it does.
    Avistew wrote: »
    Really? I've only ever heard it pronounced as "straw-bur-y". Is swallowing the E that common where you live?
    Remolay wrote: »
    Here we appear to mispronounce every word but Strawberry. I'm exaggerating but a disturbing amount of teenagers STILL dont know how to say library
    jeeno0142 wrote: »
    Yes it is, a bit like a lot of people say 'in' at the end of a word instead of 'ing' (such as 'fascinatin'), or dropping the 't' in certain words (such as pronouncing 'nominated' as 'nomina-ed'). It's only really the older generation that can speak properly, the younger generations all tend to speak in slang now.

    EDIT: Yes, library is another extremely annoying one. It's always lib-ry or lib-ary instead.

    I say Straw'-bear'-y or Straw'-bury.


    ...Lie-bary? People say that? How retarded sounding. That's even more stupid sounding than for people to say "axed" instead of "asked." Wait. No it's not, I think that's a tie.

    Now Feb'-you-ary (instead of February) is something I say, and it seems most other people also say.

    I do also say "y'all" sometimes, though not frequently... but that's an abbreviated combination of two words, not a mispronunciation.
  • edited June 2010
    By the way, every one I know pronounces "Wednesday" like it's written "Wensday", in two syllables, not three. That's the "right" pronunciation, right?
  • edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    I know the way a lot of people in the US pronounce Ts as Ds confused me for a long time.

    So... If "young people" "can't pronounce things right"... and they "can't spell things right" either... doesn't it just become a different language or something?

    If it does, then it's a language I'll never get used to. I wonder what that language would be called. It's certainly not English.
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    I say Straw'-bear'-y or Straw'-bury.


    ...Lie-bary? People say that? How retarded sounding. That's even more stupid sounding than for people to say "axed" instead of "asked." Wait. No it's not, I think that's a tie.

    Now Feb'-you-ary (instead of February) is something I say, and it seems most other people also say.

    I do also say "y'all" sometimes, though not frequently... but that's an abbreviated combination of two words, not a mispronunciation.

    It is a tie, you're right. It's not like it takes that much more effort to pronounce it right. Abbreviations are fine as far as I'm concerned.
    Avistew wrote: »
    By the way, every one I know pronounces "Wednesday" like it's written "Wensday", in two syllables, not three. That's the "right" pronunciation, right?

    You know, i'm not sure. I've just repeated the word a few times and I keep saying 'wendsday'. If I'm wrong, I'd love to know so I can correct myself.
  • edited June 2010
    jeeno0142 wrote: »
    You know, I'm not sure. I've just repeated the word a few times and I keep saying 'wensday'. If I'm wrong, I'd love to know so I can correct myself.

    I was curious so I looked it up:

    /ˈwɛnzdeɪ, ˈwɛnzdi/ ( listen); in Britain also old-fashioned /ˈwɛdənzdeɪ, ˈwɛdənzdi/

    Apparently, it a "mispronunciation" that made it into the language. I wonder if your grandparents had a talk about it like we do right now, or if some "wrong" pronunciations are on their way to become the "right" ones and we'll just be old-fashioned when we don't switch.
    Looks like the whole middle syllable (ən) was just removed (pronounced like the word "an" for those who can't make sense of it) and the rest is the same.

    I've heard the same thing with "(un)comfortable", which becomes "(un)comftable".
  • edited June 2010
    Often without the t sounds wrong to me
  • edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    some "wrong" pronunciations are on their way to become the "right" ones

    I think you're right about wrong pronunciations becoming the right ones. It's only a matter of time. I know that a few 'slang' words have begun to creep into the dictionary.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4601440/Bebo-teen-slang-terms-to-appear-in-Collins-dictionary.html

    I just quickly checked my copy and am thankful to find those words are not there. However, my copy is dated 2006, and the news report is dated 2009, so they may still have released a dictionary with the slang words in. I hope we never adopt it as a language, I'll never know what anyone's going on about. I'm only 20 and I have to keep asking my friends to explain the strange phrases they say. I've learnt one; if someone's having a cow, it means they're angry. I don't think it makes much sense though.
  • edited June 2010
    I like that language evolves and adapts, but when it goes so fast that people in their 20s like you and me are already completely lost, you have to wonder. I mean, language is a communication tool, if nobody knows what you're talking about, you're doing it wrong.
  • edited June 2010
    jeeno0142 wrote: »
    If it does, then it's a language I'll never get used to. I wonder what that language would be called. It's certainly not English

    Ic cnawe hwæt þu mænest. Ða cnihtas heo-dæg ne cunnon sprecan on Ænglisc awiht!
  • edited June 2010
    I think just a year or two ago "meh" was added to the Webster's dictionary.
  • edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    I've heard the same thing with "(un)comfortable", which becomes "(un)comftable".

    You mean "(un-)cumf'-ter-ble" which is what I say.

    when I say "comftable" (with a schwa sound "ə" instead of "er") it makes me feel like I sound as though I were from New Jersey.
  • edited June 2010
    One of the things which make me think about the Chilean Spanish is the fact we have a word which can be a subject, an adjetive and a verb, and the fact we can have long sentences with the same word repeated 3 or 4 times and I still understand what the person is trying to say. mmmm....
  • edited June 2010
    Bare bears bare bare bears? :P

    French mostly changes by taking from English these days, but in its own way. I'm pretty much out of touch now, being in Canada and all, but apparently a new popular word in France is "nexter", verb that literally means "to next". As in, to say "next!" to someone, dump them, something along those lines.
  • edited June 2010
    GinnyN wrote: »
    One of the things which make me think about the Chilean Spanish is the fact we have a word which can be a subject, an adjective and a verb, and the fact we can have long sentences with the same word repeated 3 or 4 times and I still understand what the person is trying to say. mmmm....

    Words that are spelled the same and pronounced differently are called heteronyms.

    wound: The bandage was wound around the wound.
    produce: The garden was used to produce produce.
    refuse: The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
    polish: We must polish the Polish furniture.
    lead: He could lead if he would get the lead out.
    desert: The soldier decided to desert his post in the desert.
    present: He is ready to present the present.
    bass: A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.


    Words that sound the same and are spelled differently are called homonyms.

    write/right : Please write your name. Are you right handed?
    no/know: No dogs are allowed here. Do you know the answer?
    new/knew: She has a new dog. Dad knew how to make omelets.
    eye/I: I have something in my eye.
    see/sea: Can you see the lights? Whales live in the sea.
    sale/sail: Let's sail to the garage sale.
    fare/fair: Is it fair that the bus fare is so expensive?
    pair/pear: Mom put a pair of pears in the refrigerator.



    It annoys me thoroughly when people whose first language is English don't know when to use their, they're or there properly in a sentence.
  • edited June 2010
    I know I am as I am, I have the potential to be who I am and what I am comprised of. Something blocks me though, something. Is there something "wrong" with me? I don't know anymore. I obsess trying to understand people, the universe, a social life.

    I try to better myself and find peace with myself, to become once again connected with myself and live out my life. I know that nothing is wrong,I'm just living out a chapter, but am I really meant to be this incomplete? Am I hurting myself?

    Am I really meant to be this way? I'm 22 years old and I know I have years ahead of me but I know that even though we all have flaws and make mistakes we are who we are, yet I wonder if there's something "wrong" with me?

    Am I? I'm confused...

    Is this just the way it is?

    I know I am as I am, and as I should be. I understand that. I am as I can be, as I will be. I'm just developing and changing energy in this universe. From the source, I am as intended.

    I just get so confused so times, even though in being confused I am not at all really confused.

    My thoughts and my feelings are as they should be.

    I am connected to source energy and myself.
  • edited June 2010
    It's one thing to focus on self-improvement (especially if you enjoy discussing psychology and such), but it's another if you concentrate on it such that it negatively affects your self-image and/or social life.

    In other words, don't focus on it to the point that you continually beat yourself up. Also try to learn what other people in your life are interested in and what your common interests are with them, then try to vary the conversation so that you don't wear out a topic or develop a depressing atmosphere among those you're with (that is, try to change things up with more light-hearted topics after a while.)

    That being said, if the people you're around are rude when you attempt to talk about something (given that the topic isn't already worn out,) then you ought to either call them on it or find other people to hang out with that better fit your interests.

    It sounds like you're depressed from either having unreachable expectations (which I can personally identify with) set by either yourself or by others around you. At some point though, people (including myself) need to stop trying to live up to or create further unreachable expectations and just learn to live and be content.

    Though, as a Christian, I would also say that God loves you and created you to be who you are, and if you are troubled by thoughts of inadequacy then I recommend praying to Him for help and to give you peace.
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    It annoys me thoroughly when people whose first language is English don't know when to use their, they're or there properly in a sentence.

    And I always believed that was just MY problem.

    Anyway, I was talking about this word, the second entry in the list. And it's in the Royal Spanish Academy Dictionary, so IT'S a word.
  • edited June 2010
    LOL Forget it. I'm just thinking out loud.
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