Episode 3 release dates: PSN NA, XBOX, PC/MAC out NOW, Steam Aug 29th (by 6pm PDT)!

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  • edited August 2012
    Thanks for the support. I'm thinking is leaving the forum. I'm getting bashed around like crazy by some.

    Maybe you should do some self reflection and ask yourself why some people don't agree with you and how you present yourself on the forums.
    bghjkl wrote: »
    Again, terrible logic. You can't take registered forum members as the denominator.

    If that doesn't make sense, I'll be clear: I was referring to in this thread and the episode 2 version of this thread, not everyone that bought the game or even everyone on this forum.

    You can't just take a selective portion of a player base just because it fits your view better. You need to take it as a whole. It's also a fact that the unhappy people will always be more vocal. The people that are content with Telltale won't just go on the forums usually to defend them.
    bghjkl wrote: »
    Also, I'll just throw it out there that anyone whos opinion is that telltale has handled this entire release in a manner that is acceptable or professional while fully aware of the long chain of lies and broken promises needs to stay away from an entrepreneurship career.

    I won't defend Telltale that they did an awesome job with the release of this game and their communication about it. I was quite unhappy too about all the delays and sure people are allowed to vent their disappointment. But it just gets tedious when you see the same guy ranting in all threads he can just on how much Telltale sucks. Some people even do that in story discussion or char discussion threads.

    I think Telltales communication is somewhat decent if you compare it to alot of other companies.
  • edited August 2012
    I see shit's gone crazy again :3 Well, I seen someone asked for the link to TWD:TG facebook page, so here that is. https://www.facebook.com/#!/TheWalkingDeadGame

    I also seen someone say that one of the chapters in episode 3 is called Woodbury Bound, and that's totally groovy! I really can't wait!

    Yeah, TallTale Games is shitty with communication! They needs more communication and needs to show more appreciation to their loyal customers, and they needs to tell it like it is instead of using careful wording all the time! "We said the game would be ready! We didn't say it'd be ready to play! pah ha pah ha ha, we sure showed you!" Lol freakin TTG.. they're lucky I love their game so!
  • edited August 2012
    konami is giving free games for their broken silent hill hd as well. if anything, there should be at least a discount on the season 2 for those who pre-ordered the season pass.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2012
    Season 2 doesn't follow immediately after Season 1. It could be 2015, 2017 or 2020, who knows? A discount then wouldn't help you much.
  • edited August 2012
    i'd say another year minimum cos they should make a bttf season 2 first ;)
  • edited August 2012
    I certainly wouldn't say no to a discount, but I think everyone needs to calm down. On both sides. It's a game, and games need time. Yes, Telltale did screw up somewhat with their communications. Yes, the game was promoted with a monthly release schedule (not anymore).

    But why are people running around, demanding discounts because the episodes aren't released monthly? I mean, come on - did you buy the game just because of the monthly release schedule or did you buy the game in order to play it? Whoever bought the Season Pass (which includes me) will still get all the content they paid for. Maybe not in exactly five months, but still. Also, a long wait isn't always bad - gives them time to hunt and squish pesky bugs, and don't you think that there are enough of them already as it is? :P

    Oh, and I don't know any of the moderators or how they normally behave, but I have a word of advice, especially to Vainamoinen: You are representing the company you moderate for, even if you are a volunteer. You volunteered to watch over the community, helping users, keeping things civil and regulated. Basically, the users rely on you to help them with their problems as far as you can. And being a moderator, in my opinion, requires the ability to keep a neutral viewpoint at any given situation. Yes, CiscoKidd doubleposts and is a little hasty with that "Create Thread" button, and he does seem to be quite eager to express his opinion over and over again.

    But:
    Guys, I seriously have enough of this stuff.
    [...]
    Cisko, keep this stuff in the release date thread. If you want to talk about THE GAME, feel free to open threads. If you have a support issue, post in the support forum. If you want to have a chat about forum rules, post in "General chat". Learn to edit your posts and multi-quote, and stop double posting. Next one of those random "me poor community member" threads in here, we'll have a problem.

    I can fully understand why Cisco has a problem with that answer. It's rude, it's antagonizing him, and that bold part in the quote just does NOT belong into a post made by a representative in charge of the COMMUNITY. It doesn't make any sense to be so rude if the aim is to resolve problems. This is just causing more of them.

    Oh, and the underlined part just called for it, so I'm not surprised by this. You had it coming with a post like that.

    So, that's that.
  • edited August 2012
    i'd say another year minimum cos they should make a bttf season 2 first ;)
    Nah 2 years minimum. They have to make more sam and max before BTTF season 2.
  • edited August 2012
    ThePaSch wrote: »
    Oh, and the underlined part just called for it, so I'm not surprised by this. You had it coming with a post like that.

    I see that the thread is gone now. That is a way to deal with problems - just shut them up - but it's most certainly not the right way to do so. As a volunteering mod, you should be able to take criticism. And while CiscoKidd is certainly overdoing it, just deleting a thread without at least making a statement is just plain wrong.

    But hey, my opinion. :rolleyes:
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2012
    Here's my statement. There are plenty of Cisco leftover closed threads and intact posts left so his opinions have certainly not been oppressed. I tried to explain in detail what the problem with these threads was with the closing post until it was REALLY obvious that it was of no use.
    ThePaSch wrote: »
    I can fully understand why Cisco has a problem with that answer.

    I get that you find that aggressive, but the rules have been explained to that member about five times in detail and still he continued with the disruptive posting. The warning shouldn't have been issued in the open, I definitely concede that, but I assure you the corresponding PM was clear as well. That there would not be an endless series of warnings should have been utterly clear to the user.
  • edited August 2012
    Skeith wrote: »
    I'm not part of this discussion, but unlike what someone said next, this doesn't happen to just small indie devs.
    For exemple, Google's Nexus Q sold for 300$ has been postponed for a few months. To apologize Google didn't charge any of the those who pre-ordered it and gave them a free unit, before the product even hit the stores. A 300$ free gift.
    Square enix has been giving away months of game time for free to apologize for FFXIV problems. I've also seen it done on Everquest and Wow.

    Sony has given 10 free games after the hack fiasco, again as an apology.

    Well it happens, I'm not saying Telltalegame should do it though. it is frustrating, but hopefully with the great sells of The Walking dead franchise, they'll do better in the futur :).

    So you forgot that time, when Telltale gave you a free voucher, towards another game when Jurassic Park was delayed half a year, or when the first episode of TWD was delayed on the Telltale site, so they gave everyone free steam codes, so you could play it on release day? So if you are suggesting that Telltale never give freebies, then you are wrong.
  • edited August 2012
    Masta23 wrote: »
    So you forgot that time, when Telltale gave you a free voucher, towards another game when Jurassic Park was delayed half a year, or when the first episode of TWD was delayed on the Telltale site, so they gave everyone free steam codes, so you could play it on release day? So if you are suggesting that Telltale never give freebies, then you are wrong.

    where's our "freebie" on this one?
  • edited August 2012
    where's our "freebie" on this one?

    greedy much ?

    monthly release, lack of comms bs aside

    they gave us an update just over a week ago..
  • edited August 2012
    when i 1st saw this game i was super excited, played through the 1st episode and was salivating for more! was very easy but i said "hey maybe it will get more challenging with each episode". Then i waited... and waited... and more waiting... and episode 2 finally came out... late. Then i played through that... boring!!! After the late release and the game was STILL glitchy, i am barely aware that the game even exists any more... i stopped keeping track of the days and im sure by now that episode 3 is already late as well. The game may only be $5 dollars a pop but im honestly thinking at this point i'd be better off not buying it. Also... free for PS+ members?? what garbage...
  • edited August 2012
    ThePaSch wrote: »
    I see that the thread is gone now. That is a way to deal with problems - just shut them up - but it's most certainly not the right way to do so. As a volunteering mod, you should be able to take criticism. And while CiscoKidd is certainly overdoing it, just deleting a thread without at least making a statement is just plain wrong.

    But hey, my opinion. :rolleyes:

    creating duplicate accounts?
  • edited August 2012
    strela wrote: »
    creating duplicate accounts?

    I was expecting an answer like that, mainly because it always pops up once the "underdog" gets support.

    No, I am not a duplicate. Look my username up on Google.

    Cisco seems to be banned now, so I guess this discussion's over now anyway. There has been a lot of overreacting on both sides. Let's just hope that it doesn't have to come to a situation like that again.
  • edited August 2012
    Why was he banned?
  • edited August 2012
    Drbg wrote: »
    Why was he banned?

    he didn't follow the rules of the forum and even after being warned still repeated the same things.

    plus he couldn't seem to let it go or move on with his life..
  • edited August 2012
    strela wrote: »
    You can't just take a selective portion of a player base just because it fits your view better. You need to take it as a whole. It's also a fact that the unhappy people will always be more vocal. The people that are content with Telltale won't just go on the forums usually to defend them.
    Take the 1.5 million twd purchasers.
    Remove the ones that never played the game.
    Remove the ones that never finished the game.
    Remove the ones that didn't like the game
    Remove the ones that didn't pre-purchase the season
    Remove the ones that don't care/didn't pay attention to release dates
    Remove the ones that are too young, old, inept, or apathetic to go the social media route with their feelings

    How many of the 1.5m did I just get rid of? I'd say well over 90% of them.

    Now lets actually take the forum members, 500k give or take. You're going to have to remove the ones that have never posted on the twd board and the ones that haven't posted since the game's release.

    Of what's left, which is, if i were to have to guess, less than 500 people, try to figure out which are the ones that came here to check on the release date. The best way I could get that figure is to only look at the release date threads (by a ridiculously huge margin the most popular threads on this site). If I were to have to guess again, I'd say that 75% of the people that have posted in non-release date threads have also posted in the release date threads, which gives us a pretty good sample to work with. Now in these threads, It'd be a matter of counting names and making a list of Pro-TTG and Anti-TTG users. This wouldn't be hard, I'd actually volunteer to do it one night if anyone wants to actually bring this to that. I'd bet my bottom dollar that you come up with more Anti's than Pro's.

    Also it should be noted that this forum isn't the only channel. A lot of twd players don't know this forum exists. Get a load of the facebook page, I'd say that its 90% "WHERE IS EPISODE 3 YOU GUYS ARE THE WORST COMPANY EVER" and 10% "keep it up telltale can't wait for it you guys are doing great". If we're really having this argument you have to take things like that into account.
    strela wrote: »
    I won't defend Telltale that they did an awesome job with the release of this game and their communication about it. I was quite unhappy too about all the delays and sure people are allowed to vent their disappointment.
    So on my list I mentioned above, I'm assuming I can tally you as an "anti"?
    strela wrote: »
    But it just gets tedious when you see the same guy ranting in all threads he can just on how much Telltale sucks. Some people even do that in story discussion or char discussion threads.
    If people are making off-topic posts that is an entirely different issue and there are means to go about solving it. Complaining about the complainers in the complaining thread (that's basically what this is right?) isn't the correct way of handling that.
    strela wrote: »
    I think Telltales communication is somewhat decent if you compare it to alot of other companies.
    "Somewhat decent" Shouldn't be an acceptable accreditation for any aspect of any department of any company, and the fact that those are the words you chose tell me you're really reaching for something nice to say about them.
  • edited August 2012
    Masta23 wrote: »
    So you forgot that time, when Telltale gave you a free voucher, towards another game when Jurassic Park was delayed half a year, or when the first episode of TWD was delayed on the Telltale site, so they gave everyone free steam codes, so you could play it on release day? So if you are suggesting that Telltale never give freebies, then you are wrong.

    No I didn't forget, I did not purchase Jurassic park nor was I even aware the game was being released back then. I wasn't a client for TWD either until ep 2. I purchased the pc pack a few days before the steam sale.
    Ps: oh and please don't sink so low as to try to disminish the value of my opinion since I am not a Telltale customer "veteran" or something.
    Masta23 wrote: »
    So if you are suggesting that Telltale never give freebies, then you are wrong.

    Did I suggest that? Doesn't seem like it to me... I was answering someone saying "no one but indie devs gives freebies as apologizes"... by saying... "yes even big devs do". I even clearly said "I am not saying Telltale should do it though". So I am not even faulting them for not doing it. I am not saying they should not either, I certainly won't mind a freebie but I don't really want or care for one for I have the games I want already.
  • edited August 2012
    Skeith wrote: »
    Did I suggest that? Doesn't seem like it to me... I was answering someone saying "no one but indie devs gives freebies as apologizes"... by saying... "yes even big devs do". I even clearly said "I am not saying Telltale should do it though". So I am not even faulting them for not doing it. I am not saying they should not either, I certainly won't mind a freebie but I don't really want or care for one for I have the games I want already.
    Don't try to explain your neutral point of view. Someone will always somehow see it as an argument against him/her. It just happens. :D
  • edited August 2012
    I have a feeling that by the end of Next week we will have a release date. Once again, my super secret source (who happens to be the 14 year old who cuts my grass) assures me of this. By the way, he also correctly guessed the release date of SW:TOR... So needless to say, we will be making life and death decisions in TWD soon enough. Hopefully we get to choose between killing Kenny and Lilly. Then maybe between Duck and Clem. That would be epic.
  • edited August 2012
    Scox wrote: »
    I have a feeling that by the end of Next week we will have a release date. Once again, my super secret source (who happens to be the 14 year old who cuts my grass) assures me of this. By the way, he also correctly guessed the release date of SW:TOR... So needless to say, we will be making life and death decisions in TWD soon enough. Hopefully we get to choose between killing Kenny and Lilly. Then maybe between Duck and Clem. That would be epic.
    Lilly is in the comics and she ends up staying in Woodbury with the govenor
    , so we won't be choosing her fate.
  • edited August 2012
    The awkward moment when you realize that this thread has more posts then the questions thread.
  • edited August 2012
    Skeith wrote: »
    No I didn't forget, I did not purchase Jurassic park nor was I even aware the game was being released back then. I wasn't a client for TWD either until ep 2. I purchased the pc pack a few days before the steam sale.
    Ps: oh and please don't sink so low as to try to disminish the value of my opinion since I am not a Telltale customer "veteran" or something.
    I apologise. I thought you were implying that Telltale don't give freebies, but maybe I just misinterpreted what you said. I didn't mean to diminish your opinion, if that's what it seemed like.
  • edited August 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    The awkward moment when you realize that this thread has more posts then the questions thread.

    the questions thread is pretty pointless now, none of the ttg employees read it anymore.
  • edited August 2012
    aight, hope they can hold their promise on ep 3, i dont know if i should doubt or belive
  • edited August 2012
    Lets hope ad see if TellTale announces something tomorrow(monday). they havent said anything on their twitter or Facebook so we just have to wait and see what happens. if it comes out this week ill be happy if next week ill be disappointed but happy to be able to play it. if it comes out september, well i have RE6 demo to do so Episode 3 will be pushed aside because i waited to long almost 2 and half months im guessing if it does come September.
  • edited August 2012
    ThePaSch wrote: »
    No, I am not a duplicate. Look my username up on Google.

    Was mainly curious since you showed up right after he was banned and have a similar writing style :).
    bghjkl wrote: »
    Of what's left, which is, if i were to have to guess, less than 500 people, try to figure out which are the ones that came here to check on the release date. The best way I could get that figure is to only look at the release date threads (by a ridiculously huge margin the most popular threads on this site). If I were to have to guess again, I'd say that 75% of the people that have posted in non-release date threads have also posted in the release date threads, which gives us a pretty good sample to work with. Now in these threads, It'd be a matter of counting names and making a list of Pro-TTG and Anti-TTG users. This wouldn't be hard, I'd actually volunteer to do it one night if anyone wants to actually bring this to that. I'd bet my bottom dollar that you come up with more Anti's than Pro's.

    Cut off alot of your start post to not make this to big but you raise some fair points here. I still think its just a vocal minority who is so opposed against Telltale. You shouldn't waste your time on exactly finding out how many ppl are "pro or against" Telltale. It would be a waste of time you better do something more enjoyable with your time ;).
    bghjkl wrote: »
    Also it should be noted that this forum isn't the only channel. A lot of twd players don't know this forum exists. Get a load of the facebook page, I'd say that its 90% "WHERE IS EPISODE 3 YOU GUYS ARE THE WORST COMPANY EVER" and 10% "keep it up telltale can't wait for it you guys are doing great". If we're really having this argument you have to take things like that into account.
    Yea I have no clue about facebook or twitter I don't use social sites like that so I can't comment on it.
    bghjkl wrote: »
    So on my list I mentioned above, I'm assuming I can tally you as an "anti"?
    I'm not "pro" or "anti" you can put me down as neutral ;). Even if they would release a press statement now that the game would have to be delayed to 2013. Sure it sucks but there are worse things to worry about. As long as I get a quality and enjoyable product in the end im happy.
    bghjkl wrote: »
    If people are making off-topic posts that is an entirely different issue and there are means to go about solving it. Complaining about the complainers in the complaining thread (that's basically what this is right?) isn't the correct way of handling that.

    You are right complaining about complainers isn't really the best way to deal with this. I guess I just got as annoyed with them as they got with Telltale :). I am usually more of a lurker anyways since my English vocabulary is lacking too much to go into very deep discussions with people.
    bghjkl wrote: »
    "Somewhat decent" Shouldn't be an acceptable accreditation for any aspect of any department of any company, and the fact that those are the words you chose tell me you're really reaching for something nice to say about them.
    I just compare to other companies how they handle their shit. In the way Telltale does it they still rate higher than alot of other gaming companies to me.
  • edited August 2012
    Just hurry up and release the episode already my God.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2012
    strela wrote: »
    Was mainly curious since you showed up right after he was banned and have a similar writing style :).

    Just to make this absolutely clear, there is no sign that this is a duplicate account.

    The first poster hailed from somewhere in Pennsylvania, while ThePaSch lives... oh wait, that can't be right. About 120 km from my doorstep. :D :D

    Please leave those insinuations to the mods - and welcome new members unless they post the REALLY unacceptable stuff. And just COMPLAINING is NOT unacceptable. ;)
    bghjkl wrote: »
    Of what's left, which is, if i were to have to guess, less than 500 people, try to figure out which are the ones that came here to check on the release date. The best way I could get that figure is to only look at the release date threads (by a ridiculously huge margin the most popular threads on this site). If I were to have to guess again, I'd say that 75% of the people that have posted in non-release date threads have also posted in the release date threads, which gives us a pretty good sample to work with. Now in these threads, It'd be a matter of counting names and making a list of Pro-TTG and Anti-TTG users. This wouldn't be hard, I'd actually volunteer to do it one night if anyone wants to actually bring this to that. I'd bet my bottom dollar that you come up with more Anti's than Pro's.



    Of the registered 443,469 members, you can safely assume that about 90% are spambots. It's a disgrace, but unfortunately, it's the truth. I find the estimate of 500 active users to be rather accurate, let's go with that number for now.

    The separation into "in favor-TTG" and "Anti-TTG" members however, wouldn't work. A lot of people come here for their first post just inquiring about how things are at the moment and when to expect a release. Are these "anti"? A lot of people have zero beef with waiting a bit longer, have complained fiercely about the lack of communication between episodes one and two yet are fairly content with how things are at the moment. Are those "in favor"? Others spread a lot of impatience all the time, yet don't "complain" per se. Are those still considered "anti"? And there are those who have complained a lot about the release, but have necessarily argued for Telltale after reading some of the more extreme comments. Are those "in favor"?

    Reading just the release date thread, it's hard to not perceive the community split into extreme sides. But the truth is, there are a lot of balanced opinions on this board. Heck, I have my beefs with the game as well and spoken openly about them.

    I still think that the clear cut cases in this very thread would be more into the "anti" direction, which would coincide with your assumption. People are coming to this forum for release dates; they have a hard time understanding why there can't be concrete release dates, seeing that near-monthly schedules are still a novelty for the entire industry; they see a release date thread - they complain. I'd say it's natural.

    I don't like people bashing the newbies, I hate it even. But for your statistics to be really relevant, we'd have to take into account how versed the individual members are about how TTG and the whole episodic concept works. An indication of this are registration date and post count, specifically the posts about OTHER topics than release date complaints, i.e. show an interest in the actual community and its discussions.

    bghjkl wrote: »
    the complaining thread (that's basically what this is right?)

    Yes. No. Maybe. Not the original plan, I assure you. It's natural that release date discussion goes into the release date thread, and it's always been that way. Like, for years and years. It's just new that "release date talk" more or less means "complaint". That said, there are plenty of other things people don't necessarily like about the game - discussed in other threads. Leave me the benefit of the doubt that guessing the release date can be a fun game again some day in the future. Possibly for an entirely different franchise. ;)
  • edited August 2012
    also sometimes a duped account lack tact / subtlety in the name..

    i think truebluejustakidd has been successfull or has just gone away..
  • edited August 2012
    Customer Service: "Hey, we screwed up. Have a free episode of Sam and Max, eh!"
    Entitlement: "You fuckshits cocked this up again! I want everything! This game free, the next game free, my name in the credits, an apology, a rewrite according to my preferences, the next season free, and whatever else ya got free!"

    I hate this thread.
  • edited August 2012
    38 pages... crazy lol. Fortunately for me, I'm a patient dude. Just hoping we still get it in August. Only 2 more weeks left.
  • edited August 2012
    Customer Service: "Hey, we screwed up. Have a free episode of Sam and Max, eh!"
    Entitlement: "You fuckshits cocked this up again! I want everything! This game free, the next game free, my name in the credits, an apology, a rewrite according to my preferences, the next season free, and whatever else ya got free!"

    I hate this thread.

    :D:D Sadly this is how the majority of ppl are..
  • edited August 2012
    Customer Service: "Hey, we screwed up. Have a free episode of Sam and Max, eh!"
    Entitlement: "You fuckshits cocked this up again! I want everything! This game free, the next game free, my name in the credits, an apology, a rewrite according to my preferences, the next season free, and whatever else ya got free!"

    I hate this thread.

    This guy...

    If you hate it so much why do you keep coming back. :confused:
  • edited August 2012
    strela wrote: »
    Sadly this is how the majority of ppl are..

    Ahhh, the metaphorical zombie hordes. :D

    Gotta love irony.
  • edited August 2012
    Customer Service: "Hey, we screwed up. Have a free episode of Sam and Max, eh!"
    Entitlement: "You fuckshits cocked this up again! I want everything! This game free, the next game free, my name in the credits, an apology, a rewrite according to my preferences, the next season free, and whatever else ya got free!"

    I hate this thread.

    um no... i think most of us including myself think that it would be right if we got some compensation whether that be a "special" look at episode 4 or just get episode 3 free or discounted. way to blow it out of proportion though
  • edited August 2012
    kirby18 wrote: »
    um no... i think most of us including myself think that it would be right if we got some compensation whether that be a "special" look at episode 4 or just get episode 3 free or discounted. way to blow it out of proportion though

    sorry kirby
    but there are people who feel over entitled to free stuff

    the boycotters wanting refunds yet still want the remaining episodes

    and we still haven't seen any of the pre order bonus winners
  • edited August 2012
    Ismokeherb wrote: »
    This guy...

    If you hate it so much why do you keep coming back. :confused:

    Probably because he wants to see if there are updates on the release, you know the thing this thread is supposed to be about. Instead its full of whining and complaining. And Boom goes the dynamite!
    kirby18 wrote: »
    um no... i think most of us including myself think that it would be right if we got some compensation whether that be a "special" look at episode 4 or just get episode 3 free or discounted. way to blow it out of proportion though

    And why should you get something for free? You're still gonna get your episodes that you paid for. Jeez. I dont get it.
  • edited August 2012
    jaybreezy wrote: »
    Probably because he wants to see if there are updates on the release, you know the thing this thread is supposed to be about. Instead its full of whining and complaining. And Boom goes the dynamite!

    Seriously, come here for updates. Nice joke, you were 'updated' 2 months ago. Pretty up to date. eh?
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