That has to be the worst writing for Statler and Waldorf I've ever seen.
Do I get a trophy?
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PS. After reading the scalding remarks made by Dashing, I must point out that is was late at night, I wasn't going for an impersonation, and I'm not JIM HENSON. That is all.
I love how incredibly stalker-ish this sort of thing is. Still very excited. And it's worthwhile, it was thanks to Alexandra Boyd that we found out about MI2SE.
Dito. It's not like Tales 2 could ever be out in three months, and I doubt that recordings could start even earlier prior to a release. Maybe Dom's got a real job now?
Dito. It's not like Tales 2 could ever be out in three months, and I doubt that recordings could start even earlier prior to a release. Maybe Dom's got a real job now?
Tales is next year. Hopefully, that is!
Well for VA and stuff, remember there are 4 other projects, if even one is a season, Im sure Tales could finish with the few months BTTF is out, followed by probably a one month break for JA, maybe with one of telltales pilot episodes, then JA, pilot, season, pilot, and Tales 2.
In fact, I think five projects + Jurassic Park + Back to the Future will safely project TTG's path well through 2012, with the last project to be released somewhen in 2013. It's not all 2011 stuff here.
If a couple of the announcements are single-installment games/pilots, there may be some time left over.
Well lets think
BTTF has 4 more episodes.
One this month and 3 the next few months.
This would set us at May.
Then Jurassic Park, and who knows when the first episode is launched, but Id guess July. With June for maybe one of the pilots. This would end us at November, or December if telltale did what they did with BTTF(skip January for feedback) So then leaves 5 new projects.
If it was all pilots(which would suck in my opinion) and one after the other in months, then we would be done in May 2012, wheras all seasons would be well into 2013. A mixture could be toward the end of 2012.
Just to throw this in. TTG has expanded its staff greatly the last year. Maybe, just maybe, they're going for parallel releases? But then again, BTTF ep 2 is not even out, and neither is episode 1 fixed up, so...
Just to throw this in. TTG has expanded its staff greatly the last year. Maybe, just maybe, they're going for parallel releases? But then again, BTTF ep 2 is not even out, and neither is episode 1 fixed up, so...
Didnt they try dual releases with Tales and Wallace and Gromit.
And it failed?
Considering it's been over five months since Telltale's last comedy adventure game, and the non-comedic licensed properties are usually an "on-the-side" thing (Hell, even Wallace and Gromit was squeezed in between and during SBCG4AP and ToMI) I see no reason why they couldn't be working on Tales 2 right about now.
Didnt they try dual releases with Tales and Wallace and Gromit.
And it failed?
It failed financially, because it didn't really reach the market they were expecting it to. But the games themselves were actually really good. Sales aren't an objective measure of quality, actually. The main issue with that series was the DVD, which....was horrendous.
Personally, I'm hoping for Shenmue. Possibly a little out of their comfort zone with the combat element, but I think right now they're probably the only company who could finish off Shenmue and do it justice.
It failed financially, because it didn't really reach the market they were expecting it to. But the games themselves were actually really good. Sales aren't an objective measure of quality, actually. The main issue with that series was the DVD, which....was horrendous.
But that's not what he's speaking to. Nobody doubts the quality of the games, but in terms of determining a timetable for release, quality isn't enough. If dual release seems to diminish sales then you have to reassess whether that's how you want to distribute your properties, or at least consider if that as a component of it.
Personally, I'm hoping for Shenmue. Possibly a little out of their comfort zone with the combat element, but I think right now they're probably the only company who could finish off Shenmue and do it justice.
Um.
...Shenmue is a Japanese game. And Yu Suzuki is still at SEGA. And SEGA is still making games. And Yu Suzuki is still working with the franchise. And would like to make a proper sequel. And Shenmue's whole design philosophy revolves around big, open games, and an episodic approach would ruin that. And the Shenmue games were some of the most technologically advanced of their time, and to hand that off to a mid-range(at best) developer with minor technological chops makes no sense. And the games have traditionally been on consoles and never on PC, while Telltale's non-PC record is murky at best. And Telltale has never done a continuation that follows directly from the last major installment in any significant way. And they have traditionally had a bit of a trouble with overarching plots, and so solving the cliffhangers of Shenmue II with Telltale's writers, who succeed more on a character level, would lead to a disaster.
...Shenmue is a Japanese game. And Yu Suzuki is still at SEGA. And SEGA is still making games. And Yu Suzuki is still working with the franchise. And would like to make a proper sequel. And Shenmue's whole design philosophy revolves around big, open games, and an episodic approach would ruin that. And the Shenmue games were some of the most technologically advanced of their time, and to hand that off to a mid-range(at best) developer with minor technological chops makes no sense. And the games have traditionally been on consoles and never on PC, while Telltale's non-PC record is murky at best. And Telltale has never done a continuation that follows directly from the last major installment in any significant way. And they have traditionally had a bit of a trouble with overarching plots, and so solving the cliffhangers of Shenmue II with Telltale's writers, who succeed more on a character level, would lead to a disaster.
Oh, I know they're still on speaking terms, but I thought Yu Suzuki had officially left?
Shenmue was already episodic, in the same way as (for example) Penny Arcande adventures was. Except the first chapter was lengthened to a full game after the second chapter was delayed (then cut), and we got chapters 3, 4 and 5 in the same game in what became Shenmue 2.
I think you misunderstood my intent slightly. Shenmue ain't going to get a sequel, and we're not going to get a conclusion to the story, unless someone can find a way to make it sell for more than it's production costs.
I'm not saying that Telltale could do it perfectly from a Shenmue fan's point of view; I just think that if someone had a chance to do anything with the series, they might be a half-decent shot to make something that the fans would like, but would stand a chance of being profitable (and hence getting a green light).
Certainly they would a better shot than Sega at making it both enjoyable and profitable now, anyway. As much as I'd like more Sonic/Shenmue/Phantasy Star Online, you do have to look at what Sega are doing to their own franchises now in horror.
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Do I get a trophy?
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PS. After reading the scalding remarks made by Dashing, I must point out that is was late at night, I wasn't going for an impersonation, and I'm not JIM HENSON. That is all.
Are you suggesting Bingo at the inventory?
Also, I really want a Sliders game.
Eh, well... seems ..maybe.. ok.
Someone on youtube suggested L4D3 with the Inventory gang.
I would so buy that game.:D
You folks over there sleep too much.
Dito. It's not like Tales 2 could ever be out in three months, and I doubt that recordings could start even earlier prior to a release. Maybe Dom's got a real job now?
Tales is next year. Hopefully, that is!
Well for VA and stuff, remember there are 4 other projects, if even one is a season, Im sure Tales could finish with the few months BTTF is out, followed by probably a one month break for JA, maybe with one of telltales pilot episodes, then JA, pilot, season, pilot, and Tales 2.
That could be enough time. Right?
In fact, I think five projects + Jurassic Park + Back to the Future will safely project TTG's path well through 2012, with the last project to be released somewhen in 2013. It's not all 2011 stuff here.
easy, evil
Well lets think
BTTF has 4 more episodes.
One this month and 3 the next few months.
This would set us at May.
Then Jurassic Park, and who knows when the first episode is launched, but Id guess July. With June for maybe one of the pilots. This would end us at November, or December if telltale did what they did with BTTF(skip January for feedback) So then leaves 5 new projects.
If it was all pilots(which would suck in my opinion) and one after the other in months, then we would be done in May 2012, wheras all seasons would be well into 2013. A mixture could be toward the end of 2012.
Didnt they try dual releases with Tales and Wallace and Gromit.
And it failed?
Several of us have been saying this for months, and yet I almost wonder if they think nobody's noticed.
They probably don't care. Most of their customers probably never use the forums anyways.
I'd be ridicilously happy more than just shocked if it turns out to be ANYTHING ELSE.
Maybe TTG works like this these days:
But that's not what he's speaking to. Nobody doubts the quality of the games, but in terms of determining a timetable for release, quality isn't enough. If dual release seems to diminish sales then you have to reassess whether that's how you want to distribute your properties, or at least consider if that as a component of it.
...Shenmue is a Japanese game. And Yu Suzuki is still at SEGA. And SEGA is still making games. And Yu Suzuki is still working with the franchise. And would like to make a proper sequel. And Shenmue's whole design philosophy revolves around big, open games, and an episodic approach would ruin that. And the Shenmue games were some of the most technologically advanced of their time, and to hand that off to a mid-range(at best) developer with minor technological chops makes no sense. And the games have traditionally been on consoles and never on PC, while Telltale's non-PC record is murky at best. And Telltale has never done a continuation that follows directly from the last major installment in any significant way. And they have traditionally had a bit of a trouble with overarching plots, and so solving the cliffhangers of Shenmue II with Telltale's writers, who succeed more on a character level, would lead to a disaster.
Really? oh! well!
I'll just wander off disconsolately that its not tomi 2.:(
They're announcing five games. Walking Dead would be just one.
Oh, I know they're still on speaking terms, but I thought Yu Suzuki had officially left?
Shenmue was already episodic, in the same way as (for example) Penny Arcande adventures was. Except the first chapter was lengthened to a full game after the second chapter was delayed (then cut), and we got chapters 3, 4 and 5 in the same game in what became Shenmue 2.
I think you misunderstood my intent slightly. Shenmue ain't going to get a sequel, and we're not going to get a conclusion to the story, unless someone can find a way to make it sell for more than it's production costs.
I'm not saying that Telltale could do it perfectly from a Shenmue fan's point of view; I just think that if someone had a chance to do anything with the series, they might be a half-decent shot to make something that the fans would like, but would stand a chance of being profitable (and hence getting a green light).
Certainly they would a better shot than Sega at making it both enjoyable and profitable now, anyway. As much as I'd like more Sonic/Shenmue/Phantasy Star Online, you do have to look at what Sega are doing to their own franchises now in horror.
...I'd say the Shenmue game is more likely.