This thread is getting a bit depressing isn't it...
It isn't THAT bad and maybe at E3 when it actually finally tells us about videogames maybe it won't be too awful...
They will prrrretty likely tell peoople about X1 video games there. It's not as if they'll take back everything they've said yesterday instead. :cool:
Get sentimental about games, get sentimental about creators. Don't get emotionally attached to brands or specific pieces of hardware. Emotional investment in brands is a shortcut to spending a LOT of time and money on something that makes you unhappy.
Microsoft just thinks there is a lot of Xbox fanboys who are so stupid and blind to Microsoft's BS that they will buy it anyway and find out all of this for themselves
There are such people.
Keep in mind that MS has a partnership with EA, and while we gamers complain about EA's DRM, they still make money hand over fist.
That didn't fly with customers fifteen years ago, and it won't fly now. Granted, it won't flop quite as spectacularly since there's going to obviously be some people buying it out of brand loyalty. But it's not going to be setting any sales records, that's for sure.
They won't find brand loyalty from me. I had an Xbox and I have a Xbox 360. I'm going to pass this generation.
On the Xbox 360, I mostly buy XBLA games, but I do have some disc games and they're all pre-owned (unless I see a huge sale on new titles, like AC/DC Rock Band for $5). I also play a lot of games through rentals from Blockbuster. There's no way I'm getting a console that restricts my choices.
On the Xbox 360, I mostly buy XBLA games, but I do have some disc games and they're all pre-owned (unless I see a huge sale on new titles, like AC/DC Rock Band for $5). I also play a lot of games through rentals from Blockbuster. There's no way I'm getting a console that restricts my choices.
Different generation most likely won't care. They're most accommodated to higher restrictions.
Certain restrictions under certain circumstances, yes. People are used to iTunes app purchases, or digital video purchases, or whatever else. However, people are NOT used to similar restrictions on physical media. DVDs aren't account-based, Blu Rays aren't account-based, books aren't account-based. People have different expectations when they purchase a singular, physical object in a store that represents a piece of media, and when no other game console on the market acts the way this does or has the same restrictions I think it's going to be a tougher sell than you're implying. To a certain degree, the more restrictive avenues of purchases you're treating as analogous really aren't as much as you might think.
Also, the "once every 24 hours" check is not something people are used to anywhere. The iPad doesn't try to phone home and invalidate your video purchases if it can't, nor does Android invalidate apps nor does Steam put a wall up in front of games.
Also, the "once every 24 hours" check is not something people are used to anywhere. The iPad doesn't try to phone home and invalidate your video purchases if it can't, nor does Android invalidate apps nor does Steam put a wall up in front of games.
Now this I do agree on, I'm fairly sure the 24 hour check, at least right now, is still prohibitive and rejected by a majority of people.
This thread is getting a bit depressing isn't it...
It isn't THAT bad and maybe at E3 when it actually finally tells us about videogames maybe it won't be too awful...
Maybe I'm just being optimistic because the Xbox 1 was my first real console it had awesome exclusives and was good for its day...
Oops I mean 'Xbox original'...
There is solid reason for the thread to be so negative. I mean come on i thought Xbox Live was a complete rip-off making you pay like £40 a year for playing online something that PS3 & Wii offers free. Now though this is just getting funny in a bad way. They want the Xbox to connect to the internet at least one a day so if i was to guess i would take a guess to say that the always on DRM was going to be on it then the insult Twitter comments from that guy who got fired happened and they had to change it someway. Again this is me guessing. But the biggest bs of the whole thing is having to pay extra money for pre-owned games.
There is solid reason for the thread to be so negative. I mean come on i thought Xbox Live was a complete rip-off making you pay like £40 a year for playing online something that PS3 & Wii offers free. Now though this is just getting funny in a bad way. They want the Xbox to connect to the internet at least one a day so if i was to guess i would take a guess to say that the always on DRM was going to be on it then the insult Twitter comments from that guy who got fired happened and they had to change it someway. Again this is me guessing. But the biggest bs of the whole thing is having to pay extra money for pre-owned games.
Uh XBOX Live was way better than any online component Wii offered and better than Play Online. Did it justify the price? Obviously the price will sit wherever the market demands.
I honestly think this is a mistake on the level of PS3 when it rolled out. It took a long time to get its footing because the hubris of the designers, and I think XBOX One will suffer a similar fate.
Well i didn't see it but from comments here and from friends from what i can gather this is some of the launch titles for each console?
I don't believe there was any mention of a Halo 5, just the TV series (which doesn't count, dammit!). Also, there's no guarantee they'll be launch titles. Gotta be careful with your wording there, Ryan.
Halo 4 probably will be though. Won't it? They said last year that they were already working on it. It's also supposed to be a new beginning. I would think that if it's not a launch title, it would be really soon after.
Again, I don't own a 360 anymore, so I'm not exactly in the loop.
But games are. At least on the PC.
But then again they are considerably cheaper and get discounted quite often. So you basically pay less than for a used copy anyway and get to keep the game.
I don't see this happen on the XboxOne80 though.
Hitman Absolution for 17$ 3 months after release? Nope not gonna happen on a console.
I wrote a long comment about this, but the internet decided to eat the whole thing just as I hit post reply.
And now I can of course not remember half of what I wrote.
I wrote a long comment about this, but the internet decided to eat the whole thing just as I hit post reply.
And now I can of course not remember half of what I wrote.
They look so handsome together. I wish I had both time and money to go to Malmö this weekend.
Speaking of which, Telltale is pretty well represented there. Strange that there hasn't been any communication from them regarding the conference? Or has it been mentioned on the blog?
Oh, so Tim Schafer can smile in photos.....instead of looking like he wants to stab himself in the throat in the vicinity of the other person in the picture with him.....okay.
Everybody has those "I've taken 200 pictures today" photos. Some people just fake it better than others. I've had some photos with bands where they just looked annoyed.
More info on how used games will work has emerged.
There were rumblings that you could trade them in to Microsoft direct and get credit or something, but according to a report from MCV, it'll work like this:
Apparently, the way it works is this -- retailers have to agree to terms set forth by Microsoft for used sales (much like credit card retailer agreements). Microsoft's cloud system is integrated into the deal, and when the used game owner hands over the disc, it's wiped from their Xbox Live account. Microsoft and the publisher then take a cut of the sale, and the retail store gets the rest.
So that's small-time stores out (and yes, I know quite a few).
More info on how used games will work has emerged.
There were rumblings that you could trade them in to Microsoft direct and get credit or something, but according to a report from MCV, it'll work like this:
Apparently, the way it works is this -- retailers have to agree to terms set forth by Microsoft for used sales (much like credit card retailer agreements). Microsoft's cloud system is integrated into the deal, and when the used game owner hands over the disc, it's wiped from their Xbox Live account. Microsoft and the publisher then take a cut of the sale, and the retail store gets the rest.
So that's small-time stores out (and yes, I know quite a few).
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They will prrrretty likely tell peoople about X1 video games there. It's not as if they'll take back everything they've said yesterday instead. :cool:
Don't worry I get it. Generations tolerate different things. All game systems are going to be more highly locked up and walled over time.
Haha. I love this.
Keep in mind that MS has a partnership with EA, and while we gamers complain about EA's DRM, they still make money hand over fist.
So, yes, stupid people will still buy it.
That didn't fly with customers fifteen years ago, and it won't fly now. Granted, it won't flop quite as spectacularly since there's going to obviously be some people buying it out of brand loyalty. But it's not going to be setting any sales records, that's for sure.
They won't find brand loyalty from me. I had an Xbox and I have a Xbox 360. I'm going to pass this generation.
On the Xbox 360, I mostly buy XBLA games, but I do have some disc games and they're all pre-owned (unless I see a huge sale on new titles, like AC/DC Rock Band for $5). I also play a lot of games through rentals from Blockbuster. There's no way I'm getting a console that restricts my choices.
Also, the "once every 24 hours" check is not something people are used to anywhere. The iPad doesn't try to phone home and invalidate your video purchases if it can't, nor does Android invalidate apps nor does Steam put a wall up in front of games.
Now this I do agree on, I'm fairly sure the 24 hour check, at least right now, is still prohibitive and rejected by a majority of people.
There is solid reason for the thread to be so negative. I mean come on i thought Xbox Live was a complete rip-off making you pay like £40 a year for playing online something that PS3 & Wii offers free. Now though this is just getting funny in a bad way. They want the Xbox to connect to the internet at least one a day so if i was to guess i would take a guess to say that the always on DRM was going to be on it then the insult Twitter comments from that guy who got fired happened and they had to change it someway. Again this is me guessing. But the biggest bs of the whole thing is having to pay extra money for pre-owned games.
Love these videos. The PS4 one made me LOL so hard.
My favourite line: "We've actually got loads of games, we just forgot to bring them".
Uh XBOX Live was way better than any online component Wii offered and better than Play Online. Did it justify the price? Obviously the price will sit wherever the market demands.
PS4
inFamous Second Son
Killzone Shadow Zone
DriveClub
Knack
Xbox one
Forza 5
5 EA Sports titles
Halo 5
Halo TV series
So which in everyone's opinion is better? Personally PS4 for me, i just like Playstation's exclusives way better.
http://uk.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/List_of_Xbox_One_Games
Again, I don't own a 360 anymore, so I'm not exactly in the loop.
http://angryjoeshow.com/2013/05/xbox-one-reveal-angry-rant/
But games are. At least on the PC.
But then again they are considerably cheaper and get discounted quite often. So you basically pay less than for a used copy anyway and get to keep the game.
I don't see this happen on the XboxOne80 though.
Hitman Absolution for 17$ 3 months after release? Nope not gonna happen on a console.
54.
Sports was mentioned 16 times (is that all?).
Call of Duty (which, need I remind people, is going to be multiplatform!) got namedropped 27.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
The highlights.
And now I can of course not remember half of what I wrote.
It basically said. Microsoft Xbox Sucks.
Thanks, it even works for Chrome.
...never worry. Alliances are forged as we speak.
Speaking of which, Telltale is pretty well represented there. Strange that there hasn't been any communication from them regarding the conference? Or has it been mentioned on the blog?
There were rumblings that you could trade them in to Microsoft direct and get credit or something, but according to a report from MCV, it'll work like this: So that's small-time stores out (and yes, I know quite a few).
There were rumblings that you could trade them in to Microsoft direct and get credit or something, but according to a report from MCV, it'll work like this: So that's small-time stores out (and yes, I know quite a few).